Hi I need some information about my overstay here in Thailand. I really appreciate all the help!

I will try to be clear as possible.

I have duo citizenship, Thailand and Sweden.

I entered Thailand with my Swedish passport with a non-o immigrant visa for 1year. I entered with my Swedish passport because I did not have a Thai passport before. This was in 2013.

Since then have I been going to immigration every 90 days for notification of address. In the end of 2014 I got myself a Thai passport.

until today I still not been to immigration office for my notification of my address and now passing about 4 months overdue.

I have some questions about if I am going to pay for my overstay or not, am I in some kind of trouble. Is it possible they will just let me go because I am Thai.

I found some information but can somebody confirm it.

New rules about overstay, will this apply for me? if so a ban on my Swedish passport will not affect me since I am Thai anyways. Please confirm that this is my case and a fined will not apply for me.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744965-thailand-immigration-confirms-new-overstay-rules-are-now-official/

or

Is this my case, on Question no.4 says that I will be fined 200Baht each day and plus 2000baht fine for overstay but says nothing about being Thai citizen and this could affect this maybe?

http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=faq

I gladly thanks again for all the help in advance it is very much appreciated.

Edited May 20, 201511 yr by thaison123

Any overstay fines based on your entry on a foreign passport will apply to you.

You're going to need to leave the country on your Swedish passport and re-enter on your Thai passport. Most reports indicate that it must be done by air, not overland.

You can pay the fine at the overstay desk at the airport.

@TerryLH

Is it possible that I can do this in the immigration office instead of the airport? or is it just better in the airport?

I rather skip the drama you know.

Edited May 20, 201511 yr by thaison123

Unless your permit to stay has ended you are not on overstay.

You are just late for your 90 day reporting. The fine for late reporting is normally 2000 baht there is no per day fine.The maximum fine is 5000 baht.

You should just fly out using your Swedish passport and re-enter on your Thai passport. They do not look for 90 day reporting at the airport when you leave.

Unless your permit to stay has ended you are not on overstay.

You are just late for your 90 day reporting. The fine for late reporting is normally 2000 baht there is no per day fine.The maximum fine is 5000 baht.

You should just fly out using your Swedish passport and re-enter on your Thai passport. They do not look for 90 day reporting at the airport when you leave.

My non-o visa ended august 2014 after that they gave me 90 days notification of address. I went once after 90days then the second time was in January 2015 and by then I already got my Thai passport.

So what you are saying is that i can go to immigration office pay the 5000baht fine and able to leave and re enter with Thai passport or do I do all of this in the airport?

Unless your permit to stay has ended you are not on overstay.

You are just late for your 90 day reporting. The fine for late reporting is normally 2000 baht there is no per day fine.The maximum fine is 5000 baht.

You should just fly out using your Swedish passport and re-enter on your Thai passport. They do not look for 90 day reporting at the airport when you leave.

My non-o visa ended august 2014 after that they gave me 90 days notification of address. I went once after 90days then the second time was in January 2015 and by then I already got my Thai passport.

So what you are saying is that i can go to immigration office pay the 5000baht fine and able to leave and re enter with Thai passport or do I do all of this in the airport?

I think you got a one year extension of stay in August 2014. What you had been doing is reports of staying longer than 90 day in the country since then.

Look in your passport to see what you have.

If you went to do the report at immigration now you would just pay a 2000 baht fine,

If you leave the country you will pay nothing because they do not check for the 90 day reports at the airport when you leave.

Unless your permit to stay has ended you are not on overstay.

You are just late for your 90 day reporting. The fine for late reporting is normally 2000 baht there is no per day fine.The maximum fine is 5000 baht.

You should just fly out using your Swedish passport and re-enter on your Thai passport. They do not look for 90 day reporting at the airport when you leave.

My non-o visa ended august 2014 after that they gave me 90 days notification of address. I went once after 90days then the second time was in January 2015 and by then I already got my Thai passport.

So what you are saying is that i can go to immigration office pay the 5000baht fine and able to leave and re enter with Thai passport or do I do all of this in the airport?

I think you got a one year extension of stay in August 2014. What you had been doing is reports of staying longer than 90 day in the country since then.

Look in your passport to see what you have.

If you went to do the report at immigration now you would just pay a 2000 baht fine,

If you leave the country you will pay nothing because they do not check for the 90 day reports at the airport when you leave.

on the white paper from the immigration in the passport it says this is not an extension of stay please notify your address again on January 2015.

My visa expired November 2014

what does it mean?

That is just your 90 day reporting slip. You would not be doing 90 day reporting if you did not have a permit to stay that allowed you to stay in the country longer than that.

I am certain you filled out a form with proof of your Thai nationality attached to it and paid 1900 baht for an extension of stay last August.

You should have a stamp in your passport that says you were granted an extension of stay until August of 2015.

That is just your 90 day reporting slip. You would not be doing 90 day reporting if you did not have a permit to stay that allowed you to stay in the country longer than that.

I am certain you filled out a form with proof of your Thai nationality attached to it and paid 1900 baht for an extension of stay last August.

You should have a stamp in your passport that says you were granted an extension of stay until August of 2015.

The new stamp you mentioned does not exist only the old stamp that saying visa expire november 2014 and some rules about the 90days.

but maybe it is what you are applying. I really hope so because i have been worried sick what to do and the fines been overkill a 5000baht fine is totally ok for me.

btw yes I did pay around 2000baht in august 2014 but i did not know for what though.

Edited May 20, 201511 yr by thaison123

That is just your 90 day reporting slip. You would not be doing 90 day reporting if you did not have a permit to stay that allowed you to stay in the country longer than that.

I am certain you filled out a form with proof of your Thai nationality attached to it and paid 1900 baht for an extension of stay last August.

You should have a stamp in your passport that says you were granted an extension of stay until August of 2015.

The new stamp you mentioned does not exist only the old stamp that saying visa expire July 2014 and some rules about the 90days.

but maybe it is what you are applying. I really hope so because i have been worried sick what to do and the fines been overkill a 5000baht fine is totally ok for me.

If what you say is true you are now on overstay .

This needs to be cleared by

1. Purchasing an air ticket out of Thailand .

2.Paying the overstay fine of 20,000 Bht to Immigration , at the airport immediately prior to departure.

You can safely forget anything concerning 90 day reports .

That is just your 90 day reporting slip. You would not be doing 90 day reporting if you did not have a permit to stay that allowed you to stay in the country longer than that.

I am certain you filled out a form with proof of your Thai nationality attached to it and paid 1900 baht for an extension of stay last August.

You should have a stamp in your passport that says you were granted an extension of stay until August of 2015.

The new stamp you mentioned does not exist only the old stamp that saying visa expire July 2014 and some rules about the 90days.

but maybe it is what you are applying. I really hope so because i have been worried sick what to do and the fines been overkill a 5000baht fine is totally ok for me.

If what you say is true you are now on overstay .

This needs to be cleared by

1. Purchasing an air ticket out of Thailand .

2.Paying the overstay fine of 20,000 Bht to Immigration , at the airport immediately prior to departure.

You can safely forget anything concerning 90 day reports .

I did mention after my post was sent out that I payed immigration officer around 2000 baht in august 2014 but i did not know for what though. i dont have the stamp...

That is just your 90 day reporting slip. You would not be doing 90 day reporting if you did not have a permit to stay that allowed you to stay in the country longer than that.

I am certain you filled out a form with proof of your Thai nationality attached to it and paid 1900 baht for an extension of stay last August.

You should have a stamp in your passport that says you were granted an extension of stay until August of 2015.

The new stamp you mentioned does not exist only the old stamp that saying visa expire July 2014 and some rules about the 90days.

but maybe it is what you are applying. I really hope so because i have been worried sick what to do and the fines been overkill a 5000baht fine is totally ok for me.

btw yes I did pay around 2000baht in august 2014 but i did not know for what though.

Perhaps go back and look for a stamp that has a date in August on it.

A stamp from immigration would not say visa expires July 2014.

Perhaps you should scan your passport pages and post them so we can see what you have.

If you did not get an extension you would be on an overstay and the fine is 500 baht per day up to a maximum of 20k baht.

That is just your 90 day reporting slip. You would not be doing 90 day reporting if you did not have a permit to stay that allowed you to stay in the country longer than that.

I am certain you filled out a form with proof of your Thai nationality attached to it and paid 1900 baht for an extension of stay last August.

You should have a stamp in your passport that says you were granted an extension of stay until August of 2015.

The new stamp you mentioned does not exist only the old stamp that saying visa expire July 2014 and some rules about the 90days.

but maybe it is what you are applying. I really hope so because i have been worried sick what to do and the fines been overkill a 5000baht fine is totally ok for me.

btw yes I did pay around 2000baht in august 2014 but i did not know for what though.

Perhaps go back and look for a stamp that has a date in August on it.

A stamp from immigration would not say visa expires July 2014.

Perhaps you should scan your passport pages and post them so we can see what you have.

If you did not get an extension you would be on an overstay and the fine is 500 baht per day up to a maximum of 20k baht.

Posting the stamp pictures.

Edited May 20, 201511 yr by thaison123

If those are the only stamps you have you have been on an overstay since November.

You made you last 90 day report in October. They should of mentioned your extension was due in November when you did your report.

This could be a little bit difficult as I understand that Thailand does not recognise duel citizenship. So possibly best to just fly out pay any over stay and return with Thai passport. End of problem as you won't be flagged up even if you are told not to return.

If those are the only stamps you have you have been on an overstay since November.

You made you last 90 day report in October. They should of mentioned your extension was due in November when you did your report.

I'm afraid that we have come to the conclusion that I am on a overstay here in Thailand no doesn't matter if i have a Thai citizenship and 20k fine has to be fined right?

so do I do this in immigration office or just in the airport wish one is less complicated do to.

Thanks again for all the help this helped a lot my friend.

If those are the only stamps you have you have been on an overstay since November.

You made you last 90 day report in October. They should of mentioned your extension was due in November when you did your report.

I'm afraid that we have come to the conclusion that I am on a overstay here in Thailand no doesn't matter if i have a Thai citizenship and 20k fine has to be fined right?

so do I do this in immigration office or just in the airport wish one is less complicated do to.

Thanks again for all the help this helped a lot my friend.

The only way to avoid the overstay would be to get legal help to contest having to pay the fine since you are a Thai citizen.

Best to pay the fine on the way out of the country at an airport.

Going to an immigration office can be risky since you would not be able to apply for another extension.

This could be a little bit difficult as I understand that Thailand does not recognise duel citizenship. So possibly best to just fly out pay any over stay and return with Thai passport. End of problem as you won't be flagged up even if you are told not to return.

No need to start a debate but Thailand does recognize dual nationalities.

There is no ban for having an overstay. That was never approved.

If those are the only stamps you have you have been on an overstay since November.

You made you last 90 day report in October. They should of mentioned your extension was due in November when you did your report.

I'm afraid that we have come to the conclusion that I am on a overstay here in Thailand no doesn't matter if i have a Thai citizenship and 20k fine has to be fined right?

so do I do this in immigration office or just in the airport wish one is less complicated do to.

Thanks again for all the help this helped a lot my friend.

The only way to avoid the overstay would be to get legal help to contest having to pay the fine since you are a Thai citizen.

Best to pay the fine on the way out of the country at an airport.

Going to an immigration office can be risky since you would not be able to apply for another extension.

Ok. maybe will I do the airport way.

Just to be curious about the Extension you mentioned. Do you mean an extension for my Swedish passport for further on?

wouldn't that matter anymore because next time will I enter only with my Thai passport. as I understand its better that way.

I would prefer go to an immigration office instead of doing an payout at the airport but if it so that going thru the airport is better i will do that instead

In order to pay an overstay at a immigration office you have to be able to get an extension to clear the overstay. In the past the would give you 7 days to leave the country after you pay 1900 baht for an extension.

The airport is certainly your best choice. Just pay the fine on departure and leave then return using you Thai passport.

In order to pay an overstay at a immigration office you have to be able to get an extension to clear the overstay. In the past the would give you 7 days to leave the country after you pay 1900 baht for an extension.

The airport is certainly your best choice. Just pay the fine on departure and leave then return using you Thai passport.

Don't forget to switch passports before you arrive in the country you fly into (except Sweden) as you must leave on that passport.

If those are the only stamps you have you have been on an overstay since November.

You made you last 90 day report in October. They should of mentioned your extension was due in November when you did your report.

I'm afraid that we have come to the conclusion that I am on a overstay here in Thailand no doesn't matter if i have a Thai citizenship and 20k fine has to be fined right?

so do I do this in immigration office or just in the airport wish one is less complicated do to.

Thanks again for all the help this helped a lot my friend.

The only way to avoid the overstay would be to get legal help to contest having to pay the fine since you are a Thai citizen.

Best to pay the fine on the way out of the country at an airport.

Going to an immigration office can be risky since you would not be able to apply for another extension.

Ok. maybe will I do the airport way.

Just to be curious about the Extension you mentioned. Do you mean an extension for my Swedish passport for further on?

wouldn't that matter anymore because next time will I enter only with my Thai passport. as I understand its better that way.

I would prefer go to an immigration office instead of doing an payout at the airport but if it so that going thru the airport is better i will do that instead

Arrive in Thailand on Thai passport. You might be asked to do national service, but unlikely.

Arrive in Thailand on Thai passport. You might be asked to do national service, but unlikely.

Only if he was under the age of 30.

He is already registered in a house book and has a Thai ID card that allowed him to get a Thai passport so he would of been already subject to the draft no matter what passport he entered on.