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As callous as it seems, it would appear that all countries are in favor of giving them food, water & medicine and sufficient fuel so they can return to where they came from, be that Myanmar or Bangladesh. It was mentioned on the news that some Myanmar migrants were telling UNHCR officials they were Rohingya refugees so they would qualify for aid assistance.

And now the Phillipines has announced the same will apply should any boats arrive in it's waters.

It is the correct thing to do as letting them in would send the message that any arrivals by boat will be taken care of. This would have 100,s of thousands turn up in days. This is simply not the solution.

As shown by Thailand and other countries ... assist and help them in a humanitarian way with food, water & all the essentials.

Next step would be to go after the smugglers and kill them. This will stop further boats coming and also assist those in need now.

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I think this speaks for itself. Overwhelming majority believe the humanitarian thing to do here is help the poor on the boats with food, water, medicine etc ... give them fuel so they can return safely.

Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

Doesn't make it right though.

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Some of the attitudes on here are disgusting. Boats full of human beings are drifting out at sea desperate and hungry and some of the attitude is "so what, they are Muslims they deserve it" you do know it is the Rohingya that are victims of brutal prejudice in Burma right? Think before you Start spitting your ignorant, racist bile. And Yes I would take them into the uk where despite similar attitudes multi-culturism works.

How about you quit spitting your Liberal - Leftist know it all malarkey on to everyone... I suppose you are sending hefty donations to help these refugees aren't you?

Here you are again with your labels. Just know that you are wishing the worst on boats full of people that have done nothing to you. That makes you the same as the terrorists wishing the worst on the west. You are a terrible human being.

The label fits -- so wear it. You are a naive - know nothing human being ... who calls people disgusting just because they do not support the never ending landing of boat people - but rather want to seek a solution by holding the real culprits accountable -- such as the Traffickers and the country of Bangladesh - the country that is at the BASE ROOT of the problem for their internal policies concerning these downtrodden people. But world bodies such as the UN - whose daily agenda is dictated by Muslim Countries who do things like vote Iran to be on the Human Rights Commission ... so distracted they are by such idiocy the UN will NOT hold Bangladesh to task for creating conditions that drive hundreds of thousands from the country ... and WHY? Why is not Bangladesh held accountable? -- simple answer - they are a Muslim country ... The Muslim Gaggle of countries working every day to control the UN policies only has time to harass Israel ... not help the plight of a sect of Muslims that nobody wants.

I am not sure what Isreal has to do with this. Anyway there are two different issues here and people are Ming them up.

The first issue is the immediate plight of a people who are so desperate they will give up everything and submit themselves to likely slavery at the least and potent danger to leave their homes and try to find a place they can live. If you have any humanity or dignity and are not simply an animal, then you must realise that their plight must be utterly dire. To increase the severity of their plight by pushing them into more danger is inhumane and disgusting.

The second issue is the long term issue in the countries where they have lived for generations. I don't agree that a country should be supported in abusing certain basic rights of citizens. The way to tackle this is not to trade and place sanctions on them and ideally stop their citizens from running businesses or buying property and the like in other countries. It is the rich who are the powerful and by curtailing what they want to do outside their country you can focus their mind on dealing with unpalatable issues in their own country as they are the people in a position to effect change. Effecting change in Myannmar will not be done in a few days and that is the timescale these poor people have.

To say that they deserve no compassion or understanding and that they should be sent back to where they come from is in my humble opinion a grossly ignorant and inhumane mindset. That the root issues need to be addressed by international pressure is right and proper. To layer that on top of the immediate plight of these, your fellow humans who happen to have been born in the wrong place, is not.

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The World population has reached a critical point, and much as it would be reasonable to accept and accommodate 100's of thousands of people, no one that I have come across would be willing to give up their wealth or position and status to do so. When nearly 80.000 are being born every day and only about 30.000 are dieing the maths tell us it is not possible.
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Nobody wants them to starve at sea, and I don't think any country intended for that to happen.. (hence providing food & water), but it's not surprising no one was rushing out there to scoop them up in a drop ship and "rescue" them.

It's easy enough to look at pictures of them starving on boats and assume that they're victims of cruelty, but I don't imagine for a second that they're entirely blameless in their plight. It's difficult to know what you can believe, but there's certainly some reports floating around of their antisocial behaviour in Burma. If you desecrate a buddha statue in a buddhist country, you're going to get some push back.

Anyhow, I find it noteworthy that Burma has refused to be involved in any discussion about resolving the issue. If any rohingyas are found to be legitimate refugees during the verification process, then that would result in sanctions for Burma - but the Burmese don't seem to think there's even a possibility of that. Again, I'm sure the burmese aren't entirely blameless, but they seem pretty confident that there's no chance the rohingyas will be found to be legitimate refugees.

Burma has refused to be involved because they approve of their extermination

U.S. Campaign for Burma - Rohingya: Ethnic Cleansing

uscampaignforburma.org › About Burma › Conflict & Human Rights

Government persecution has enabled Rakhine Buddhist nationalists to implement a reign of terror against the Rohingya with impunity. Hate speech directed against Rohingya Muslims appears regularly in state-run media, and some Buddhist monks have instigated vitriolic rumors and discrimination against the minority group. Hate speech has helped fuel waves of violence and systematic arson attacks in Rakhine State.
Of the hundreds of thousands of Rohingya that have fled to Bangladesh, Thailand, and Malaysia to escape persecution and adversity, approximately 300,000 Rohingya live in squalid conditions in Bangladesh where they are denied access to food supplies, medical aid, and education. In essence, the Rohingya are “Exiled to Nowhere.”

Do not believe everything you read put out by the bleeding heart liberals, there are always two sides to a story and as a group the rohingya people have done their share of religious denigration of the buddist religion in the area and as we are all aware mohamad is the only true god according to the islamic religion and the rest are all infidels, so lets get it in perspective if you lived in the middle of them you may just have a different view.

Do not believe everything you read put out by the bleeding heart liberals, there are always two sides to a story and as a group the rohingya people have done their share of religious denigration of the buddist religion in the area and as we are all aware mohamad is the only true god according to the islamic religion and the rest are all infidels, so lets get it in perspective if you lived in the middle of them you may just have a different view.

I've considered both sides of the argument.

And I still disagree with every single post you've made on the thread.

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I do read news - extensively - but I also read something other than liberal - leftist - socialist whining diatribes... I want news not emotionally driven dribble filled with heart string pulling exaggerations and embellishments designed to convince people to do the absurd ... let boat loads of Muslims settle in Thailand that already has a Muslim population that is killing others every day in South Thailand -- people who suggest bringing more Muslims into Thailand are mentally infirm ...

And what about the other millions of Thai Muslims that live peacefully outside of regions in the south and other parts of Thailand? Why do you neglect to mention then?

Because you're a feeble minded racist, that's why.

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As callous as it seems, it would appear that all countries are in favor of giving them food, water & medicine and sufficient fuel so they can return to where they came from, be that Myanmar or Bangladesh. It was mentioned on the news that some Myanmar migrants were telling UNHCR officials they were Rohingya refugees so they would qualify for aid assistance.

And now the Phillipines has announced the same will apply should any boats arrive in it's waters.

It is the correct thing to do as letting them in would send the message that any arrivals by boat will be taken care of. This would have 100,s of thousands turn up in days. This is simply not the solution.

As shown by Thailand and other countries ... assist and help them in a humanitarian way with food, water & all the essentials.

Next step would be to go after the smugglers and kill them. This will stop further boats coming and also assist those in need now.

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I think this speaks for itself. Overwhelming majority believe the humanitarian thing to do here is help the poor on the boats with food, water, medicine etc ... give them fuel so they can return safely.

Safety?

What safety?

Oh...you mean the cozy comfort of cuddling up with 300 other people on the soft surf of the open ocean?

Or do you mean the safety of the soothing smell of gasoline, when your house is burned to the ground?

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I read with some bemusement the ramblings of the right and wonder how they jump to conclusions as to what is the agenda of those of us expressing a more compassionate outlook on the subject of the treatment of these boat people.

It's almost as though (the naysayer s think) we are expecting the SEA nations to blossom into some modern welfare state ready to take care of the Boat Peoples every need provide them with a 3 bedroom house a new car and private school education for their kids.

I believe I speak for other enlightened posters in saying all we want is that these poor souls are not left to drift on the sea and die a miserable death, and have some temporary shelter until a place can be found for them to go and call home.

Is that too much to ask, or is this concept too complex for you.

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Nobody wants them to starve at sea, and I don't think any country intended for that to happen.. (hence providing food & water), but it's not surprising no one was rushing out there to scoop them up in a drop ship and "rescue" them.

It's easy enough to look at pictures of them starving on boats and assume that they're victims of cruelty, but I don't imagine for a second that they're entirely blameless in their plight. It's difficult to know what you can believe, but there's certainly some reports floating around of their antisocial behaviour in Burma. If you desecrate a buddha statue in a buddhist country, you're going to get some push back.

Anyhow, I find it noteworthy that Burma has refused to be involved in any discussion about resolving the issue. If any rohingyas are found to be legitimate refugees during the verification process, then that would result in sanctions for Burma - but the Burmese don't seem to think there's even a possibility of that. Again, I'm sure the burmese aren't entirely blameless, but they seem pretty confident that there's no chance the rohingyas will be found to be legitimate refugees.

Myanmar does not recognise Rohingya as citizens, so you're correct at this stage Myanmar will not recognise them as refugees. Indeed, according to so called Burmese Buddhists, as "not as really human, not deserving to live".

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2014/06/15/rohingya-denied-the-right-to-be-human/

Indeed, according to so called Burmese Buddhists, as "not as really human, not deserving to live".

Same as some contributors here

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I read with some bemusement the ramblings of the right and wonder how they jump to conclusions as to what is the agenda of those of us expressing a more compassionate outlook on the subject of the treatment of these boat people.

It's almost as though (the naysayer s think) we are expecting the SEA nations to blossom into some modern welfare state ready to take care of the Boat Peoples every need provide them with a 3 bedroom house a new car and private school education for their kids.

I believe I speak for other enlightened posters in saying all we want is that these poor souls are not left to drift on the sea and die a miserable death, and have some temporary shelter until a place can be found for them to go and call home.

Is that too much to ask, or is this concept too complex for you.

Dey don' deserve it cos them there are dem pesky towel heads! *rolls eyes* :rolleyes:

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Many men, women and children may die while trying to escape persecution. Thailand and other nations in se Asia should be ashamed of themselves.

Why it ain't thailands problem I would be ashamed of thailand accepted them

These people are criminals with no paper work

The only place they can go is jail

IF other countries think Thailand are wrong then let them have them.

These people have no ID they could be anyone

No passports no nothing

Ain't there fault. England is weak and would accept them and mess up my old country

Yet why cannot I get thai citizenship I paid taxes here for years I have ID

These people are no good and shall mess up the country send them home , jail or let them savive in the ocean

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Many men, women and children may die while trying to escape persecution. Thailand and other nations in se Asia should be ashamed of themselves.

Before getting on your Soap-Box perhaps you should research the Rohingya people... They were happy little mujahadeen warriors when they sought to create a Muslim state on Burmas independence from Britain., but failed>. They are not Burmese like other minority groups but illegal immigrants mostly from Bangladesh and have bred like flies since arriving.. If you feel so strongly, perhaps you would be happy to sponsor one of these Muslims/Family

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Many men, women and children may die while trying to escape persecution. Thailand and other nations in se Asia should be ashamed of themselves.

Before getting on your Soap-Box perhaps you should research the Rohingya people... They were happy little mujahadeen warriors when they sought to create a Muslim state on Burmas independence from Britain., but failed>. They are not Burmese like other minority groups but illegal immigrants mostly from Bangladesh and have bred like flies since arriving.. If you feel so strongly, perhaps you would be happy to sponsor one of these Muslims/Family

The Rohingya community in that part of Burma has roots going back 1000 years.

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Many men, women and children may die while trying to escape persecution. Thailand and other nations in se Asia should be ashamed of themselves.

Why it ain't thailands problem I would be ashamed of thailand accepted them

These people are criminals with no paper work

The only place they can go is jail

IF other countries think Thailand are wrong then let them have them.

These people have no ID they could be anyone

No passports no nothing

Ain't there fault. England is weak and would accept them and mess up my old country

Yet why cannot I get thai citizenship I paid taxes here for years I have ID

These people are no good and shall mess up the country send them home , jail or let them savive in the ocean

If you're English, and are complaining that you cannot get Thai citizenship and have an ID and pay taxes etc, can you read and write Thai fluently? Do you meet all the entry conditions? I only ask because you seem to be struggling with basic English grammar my friend ;)

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Many men, women and children may die while trying to escape persecution. Thailand and other nations in se Asia should be ashamed of themselves.

Why it ain't thailands problem I would be ashamed of thailand accepted them

These people are criminals with no paper work

The only place they can go is jail

IF other countries think Thailand are wrong then let them have them.

These people have no ID they could be anyone

No passports no nothing

Ain't there fault. England is weak and would accept them and mess up my old country

Yet why cannot I get thai citizenship I paid taxes here for years I have ID

These people are no good and shall mess up the country send them home , jail or let them savive in the ocean

You worry about messing up "Your" old country?

Shouldn't you be back there protecting "your" old country then?

But no worries, England messed up more countries than anyone else could do,

including their own, or why would you be an economic migrant, living outside

of your "Own" country? Sure not out of humanitarian compassion. Rats are

usualy the first to leave a sinking boat.

As a Thai, I would worry more about the 800'000 or so British tourists "letting

the pig out" and destroying the culture and way's of life here in Thailand than

the 89'000 refugees living here in camps along the Thai / Myanmar borders.

(There are an other 500'000 stateless people living in Thailand. Although

America and Australia where happy to give them asylum, they can't leave as

none of the past Thai governments recognized them as refugees.They are here

but they do not exist. Not for Thailand, not for Laos and not for Myanmar)

Now I hope you take your own rant serious and are hurrying back as fast as

you can, to protect "your own country" from "those criminals" sick.gif

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What claptrap , the Thai Army Chief talks ,talk about an out of touch moron, anyone escaping persecution from a country that treats them like sh!!t, is a refugee , anyone looking for a job is migrant , there is a big distinction General , Thailand's human rights record is sub par at the best of times, the Thai Army Chief helps to re-enforces this opinion, Thailand should be doing 2 things, help the Rohingya people and along with the rest of ASEAN start attacking the Burmese government or take a look at your principals and kick Burma out of ASEAN.coffee1.gif

Well if all they are doing is trying to escape persecution in Burma then why don't they go to Bangladesh or China? Absolutely no need for a boat to get there.

There are 300.000 of them in Bangladesh already living in squalid conditions. They have no where to go

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Some of the attitudes on here are disgusting. Boats full of human beings are drifting out at sea desperate and hungry and some of the attitude is "so what, they are Muslims they deserve it" you do know it is the Rohingya that are victims of brutal prejudice in Burma right? Think before you Start spitting your ignorant, racist bile. And Yes I would take them into the uk where despite similar attitudes multi-culturism works.

I find the attitude of the bleeding heart liberals disgusting. If these scumbags turned up at the Thai border and claimed to be 'refugees' they would soon be told to clear off, so they wallow about in boats hoping people will have 'compassion' for them, believe their lies about persecution and look after them and their many offspring. The boats should be given food an water and towed back out to sea. These people were not forced onto the boats, are not escaping a war and will only cause a headache in a Buddhist country just like they did where they come from.They have no right to enter Thailand legally so they are playing the asylum card like so many others, luckily the Thais are not as stupid as the west so far. Multi multiculturalism has not work in the UK it has been a divisive disaster, ask the 1500 children raped and tortured in Rotheram what they think about the socialist multi cultural dream

Here come the labels. Believing in human compassion makes you a bleeding heart liberal

Go figure.

Have you ever considered that it is because of the lottery of birth that you are allowed to sit here and freely spout your racist bile? These people on the boats weren't so fortunate as you. And you can't sit there and ajudge every single one of them to be a terrorist or a pedophile. People are victims of their environment and you can very much make a case for colonial powers leaving Burma in the state it was in. Look at India and Pakistan, Israel and places in Africa and south America for the same results.

Hell look at what is gonna on in the middle east right now. Constant wars and interference from so called civilized nations so that they can grab land and oil. And if multimedia culturism is such as a failure that many of you racists on here claim it is, then the UK would be in a state of civil war and there would be mass fighting in the streets? Is that happening? No. A few incidents? Yes but no society will ever be perfect. What about the many hard working people of all backgrounds that have assimilated into British society and own businesses, become politicians etc and take care Of their family? I know many people like this personally and would say that these people FAR out number the nefarious minority.

I see many of you using Muslim grooming gangs as an example of a failire of multi culturism. It's sick and depraved and I hope these gangs get severely punished. But hang on a second? Haven't we recently had a massive scandal into the UK after the death of Jimmy Savile where many high up (and fully native) members of the British establishment were molesting children in hospitals en masse and got away with It for many many years? Why aren't you condeming them? Just easier to blame brown people right?

Call me a bleeding heart liberal all you want. At least I'm not a decrepit, ignorant, bitter old racist who is devoid of compassion.

the point of immigration is to assimilate,educate,take on to a certain degree the customs of that country.You are quite right many have assimilated well into british way of life and have become model citizens.But there are thousands more who have not,,and some of the mad mullah's in the UK are feeding off their isolation.It's these extremist islamists that are causing the problems socially in the west(biting the hand that feeds them) and they are no different to the red neck christian fundamentalists who spout their venom at the poor in the USA.

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Some of the attitudes on here are disgusting. Boats full of human beings are drifting out at sea desperate and hungry and some of the attitude is "so what, they are Muslims they deserve it" you do know it is the Rohingya that are victims of brutal prejudice in Burma right? Think before you Start spitting your ignorant, racist bile. And Yes I would take them into the uk where despite similar attitudes multi-culturism works.

Don't think so. As indicated, most comments are calling for a sensible solution. Feed them, give them water, take care of any injured, give them help and any assistance, provide fuel & send them back.

How many times does it have to be said that they have no country to go back to? They are stateless.with no recognition that they belong anywhere

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Nobody wants them to starve at sea, and I don't think any country intended for that to happen.. (hence providing food & water), but it's not surprising no one was rushing out there to scoop them up in a drop ship and "rescue" them.

It's easy enough to look at pictures of them starving on boats and assume that they're victims of cruelty, but I don't imagine for a second that they're entirely blameless in their plight. It's difficult to know what you can believe, but there's certainly some reports floating around of their antisocial behaviour in Burma. If you desecrate a buddha statue in a buddhist country, you're going to get some push back.

Anyhow, I find it noteworthy that Burma has refused to be involved in any discussion about resolving the issue. If any rohingyas are found to be legitimate refugees during the verification process, then that would result in sanctions for Burma - but the Burmese don't seem to think there's even a possibility of that. Again, I'm sure the burmese aren't entirely blameless, but they seem pretty confident that there's no chance the rohingyas will be found to be legitimate refugees.

Burma has refused to be involved because they approve of their extermination

U.S. Campaign for Burma - Rohingya: Ethnic Cleansing

uscampaignforburma.org › About Burma › Conflict & Human Rights

Government persecution has enabled Rakhine Buddhist nationalists to implement a reign of terror against the Rohingya with impunity. Hate speech directed against Rohingya Muslims appears regularly in state-run media, and some Buddhist monks have instigated vitriolic rumors and discrimination against the minority group. Hate speech has helped fuel waves of violence and systematic arson attacks in Rakhine State.
Of the hundreds of thousands of Rohingya that have fled to Bangladesh, Thailand, and Malaysia to escape persecution and adversity, approximately 300,000 Rohingya live in squalid conditions in Bangladesh where they are denied access to food supplies, medical aid, and education. In essence, the Rohingya are “Exiled to Nowhere.”

Do not believe everything you read put out by the bleeding heart liberals, there are always two sides to a story and as a group the rohingya people have done their share of religious denigration of the buddist religion in the area and as we are all aware mohamad is the only true god according to the islamic religion and the rest are all infidels, so lets get it in perspective if you lived in the middle of them you may just have a different view.

Do not believe everything you read put out by the bleeding heart liberals, there are always two sides to a story and as a group the rohingya people have done their share of religious denigration of the buddist religion in the area and as we are all aware mohamad is the only true god according to the islamic religion and the rest are all infidels, so lets get it in perspective if you lived in the middle of them you may just have a different view.

Mass generalizations again. You still lump Muslims together into one lump when they are all so different. It's a well established that all are different in race country culture and language and never agree with each other. But it is a minority that have ill intent. you have to stop the rumor mill that all believe the fundamentalist line which are a minority because it's not true and it only ups the anti. And please Jewel49 do not put your words in my mouth by posting your comments on my post.

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I saw a photo recently of a young girl who had been on one of the boats. She looked about ten, and she was wearing a cheap home-made Hijab and basically rags.

She looked really frightened, confused, hungry and exhausted. Having read this thread, I would ask you, did this ten-year old girl choose to be a Muslim, did she choose to wear the Hijab, does she know any other way to dress? I'm amazed that people say "these are Muslims, don't let them in, just think of the Terror ." She is just a little girl who almost drowned and was starved and dehydrated in a rickety tub full of desperate people.

I am a Christian, and I don't see this girl as anything other than a little girl born into a place and time, and culture, which she had absolutely zero control over. She doesn't even understand all the adult conflicts and prejudices, and she deserves kindness from her fellow human beings. And so do all the other boat people who are in desperate need.

There are two dilemmas playing out at once, the first is "how to solve the problem" ie. the source nation's oppression. This is a huge complex problem and there is nothing that can be done by tweeting about it. The solutions have to start internally within the source nations, one way or another.

The second dilemma, "how do we cope with the problem." This is also complex and difficult, but has the positive aspect that solutions can be found outside the source nation. My first thought is, rescue them from drowning, give them food, drink and shelter. That is just common decency.

The solutions are not simple or easy, and even more so in nations that are already struggling in many ways. But some kind of humanitarian response is urgent and not open to debate, we can not stand around giving clever speeches with fancy words, while people drown and starve. This is not an option in a world that throws away good food on trash heaps every single day, has unused dry land, and lowpaid manual work that needs doing. Solutions can be found, once we stop posturing on our high horses for a minute.

Best posting ever on this topic..respect to you.402.gif

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I do read news - extensively - but I also read something other than liberal - leftist - socialist whining diatribes... I want news not emotionally driven dribble filled with heart string pulling exaggerations and embellishments designed to convince people to do the absurd ... let boat loads of Muslims settle in Thailand that already has a Muslim population that is killing others every day in South Thailand -- people who suggest bringing more Muslims into Thailand are mentally infirm ...

I never said for them to be brought into Thailand. I want them landed anywhere so they can be saved from certain death. Then the problem of resettlement can be worked out later.

To my knowledge CNN is not leftist and nor am I. Nor am I a socialist. But I hope I can call myself humane. Not sure what you are and why you call Human Rights Watch leftist, I'm sure labels aren't their concern. But they are to you it seems so you can categorize me and others and Muslims as well. So what do you read extensively? Right wing fascist publications ? Anti immigration fear mongering websites? Because they whip up fear and are emotionally driven and purposefully for a racist agenda. So what are you talking about? the BBC?

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I've seen a lot of anti-Rohingya bias on social media from the Thai community over the last few days. It's disconcerting to see how many Thais support the push back policy, with arguments ranging from cost, not Thailand's problem, to outright distain for Muslim Rohingya. Worrying times for humanity indeed..

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That why I like Thailand and Thais, none of the bleeding heart PC crap that has crippled the west. Thais are right on every point about these beggars in boats

Heartless

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I've seen a lot of anti-Rohingya bias on social media from the Thai community over the last few days. It's disconcerting to see how many Thais support the push back policy, with arguments ranging from cost, not Thailand's problem, to outright distain for Muslim Rohingya. Worrying times for humanity indeed..

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That why I like Thailand and Thais, none of the bleeding heart PC crap that has crippled the west. Thais are right on every point about these beggars in boats

Heartless

So Linzz are you a Rohingya Muslim or just Muslim ? Just trying to account for all this pain and suffering you are going through.

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I've seen a lot of anti-Rohingya bias on social media from the Thai community over the last few days. It's disconcerting to see how many Thais support the push back policy, with arguments ranging from cost, not Thailand's problem, to outright distain for Muslim Rohingya. Worrying times for humanity indeed..

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That why I like Thailand and Thais, none of the bleeding heart PC crap that has crippled the west. Thais are right on every point about these beggars in boats

"Beggars in boats."

That's what the Native Americans called the Pilgrims back in 1620. Of course, the Europeans also brought along smallpox & plague, so they got to stick around awhile.

Well Hell as long as your are going to go back to drag up old history ...surely you know about the hundreds of years of the waves of the migratory Invasions of the Germanic Tribes across Europe - the Barbarians, The Jutes, The Goths, The Visi Goths, the Burgundians and a dozen more,,, millions killed and enslaved - it is what created the basic structure of today's Europe, How many ridiculous extremes do you dig up ...? pun intended.

Exactly the point. Migrations have happened for millennium. But I don't see these refugees in boats threatening at all but there are some barbarians on this website who do

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Some of the attitudes on here are disgusting. Boats full of human beings are drifting out at sea desperate and hungry and some of the attitude is "so what, they are Muslims they deserve it" you do know it is the Rohingya that are victims of brutal prejudice in Burma right? Think before you Start spitting your ignorant, racist bile. And Yes I would take them into the uk where despite similar attitudes multi-culturism works.

How about you quit spitting your Liberal - Leftist know it all malarkey on to everyone... I suppose you are sending hefty donations to help these refugees aren't you?

Here you are again with your labels. Just know that you are wishing the worst on boats full of people that have done nothing to you. That makes you the same as the terrorists wishing the worst on the west. You are a terrible human being.

The label fits -- so wear it. You are a naive - know nothing human being ... who calls people disgusting just because they do not support the never ending landing of boat people - but rather want to seek a solution by holding the real culprits accountable -- such as the Traffickers and the country of Bangladesh - the country that is at the BASE ROOT of the problem for their internal policies concerning these downtrodden people. But world bodies such as the UN - whose daily agenda is dictated by Muslim Countries who do things like vote Iran to be on the Human Rights Commission ... so distracted they are by such idiocy the UN will NOT hold Bangladesh to task for creating conditions that drive hundreds of thousands from the country ... and WHY? Why is not Bangladesh held accountable? -- simple answer - they are a Muslim country ... The Muslim Gaggle of countries working every day to control the UN policies only has time to harass Israel ... not help the plight of a sect of Muslims that nobody wants.

Some of what you say is right. But the real point is you don't want them either.

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@ Linzz # 150

I do read news - extensively - but I also read something other than liberal - leftist - socialist whining diatribes... I want news not emotionally driven dribble filled with heart string pulling exaggerations and embellishments designed to convince people to do the absurd ... let boat loads of Muslims settle in Thailand that already has a Muslim population that is killing others every day in South Thailand -- people who suggest bringing more Muslims into Thailand are mentally infirm ...

I never said for them to be brought into Thailand. I want them landed anywhere so they can be saved from certain death. Then the problem of resettlement can be worked out later.

To my knowledge CNN is not leftist and nor am I. Nor am I a socialist. But I hope I can call myself humane. Not sure what you are and why you call Human Rights Watch leftist, I'm sure labels aren't their concern. But they are to you it seems so you can categorize me and others and Muslims as well. So what do you read extensively? Right wing fascist publications ? Anti immigration fear mongering websites? Because they whip up fear and are emotionally driven and purposefully for a racist agenda. So what are you talking about? the BBC?

If you are not aware of extreme bias in news reporting via the major TV Broadcast TV stations, cable TV news and satellite TV news, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. then it is hardly a wonder you believe as you do ... These organizations frequently hype news events with exaggeration, embellishment, omission of fact. ... The list is endless.. .this includes the BBC as well ... This is my opinion and that of millions of other Americans... perhaps you have missed the controversy for the last 15 years ... especially in the last 7 years.

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I've seen a lot of anti-Rohingya bias on social media from the Thai community over the last few days. It's disconcerting to see how many Thais support the push back policy, with arguments ranging from cost, not Thailand's problem, to outright distain for Muslim Rohingya. Worrying times for humanity indeed..

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That why I like Thailand and Thais, none of the bleeding heart PC crap that has crippled the west. Thais are right on every point about these beggars in boats

Heartless

Realistic

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