Thaksin says he offered his compassion to the junta

[Anthony5]

This is a delusion typical of farangs living in red shirt areas and getting most of their political input from their Thaksinist g/f. It is based on UDD propaganda and totally ignores that the die-hard reds don't have the numbers, let alone the passion. Of course, both of those can be boosted, but it will cost a lot more than B500 a day next time.

To answer your delusional remarks, I have no Thai GF or BF, and don't live in a red shirt area, but since I live here for more than 2 decades already I happen to know a few powerful business people in Pattaya who financially support the red shirts. You're not gonna call Pattaya a red shirt area, do you? Why you think the red shirts don't have the numbers any more? Because the army say 98.99% of the population support them ?

Go through my post history and you will see that I never supported Thaksin, but he is an evil man with almost unlimited money sources, and in a world where money equally translates to power, that mean

True. Notice that Thaksin never promised to return happiness to the Thai people...Nor he has anything to do with the earthquakes in Nepal...

Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms.

Aristotle

But thaksin did promise:

- To fix the Bangkok traffic in 6 months - failed, made no progress whatever.

- Did promise when he was the pm to fix education - 6 months later no progress, he gave up and quietly appointed a new ed. minister.

- Make everybody rich within 6 months - nothing happened / no progress.

I know of someone who is making endless promises to fix everything for a year now, and so far he has managed to get some beach chairs of the beach.

[Equalizer]

Here we go. Just as i predicted, within 1 year of this new government another scheme concerning palm oil has been established. ''PWO to receive 2.6 billion baht fund to buy palm oil from factories'' You can call this man Thaksin anything and everything however everyone who knows anything will admit that Suthep and his palm oil refinery empire is now in a position to be in receipt of a huge reward for his instrumental overthrow of the previous government. Ha talk about blatant! Quite unbeleivable.

[khunken]

Thaksin may be clever with using his money to buy enough people to claim & maintain power.

But his monster ego lets him down when it comes to interfering in Thailand. He made a sly comment about the junta being unsuccessful (in as many words) and it was ignored. But he just couldn't keep his mouth shut and then went on about the coup using the same sort of conspiracy crap that some have made on this forum.

The response was predictable and his passports cancelled (not before time), his police rank being likely to be removed and also facing a possible LM charge. Now he wants to wish compassion along with some more usual forked tongue non-compassion.

Anyone with commonsense, when dealing with a junta leader with the all powerful article 44, would either just say hello or keep their mouth shut. If he carries on I wouldn't be surprised to see the government target any shares, bank accounts, or assets that he owns either in his own name or in nominees. Oh and as an aside, his arse-licking cousin is likely to be targeted too.

[tifino]

when there's grenades flying about - everyone runs for cover - Soldiers and BIB wearers included

Edited May 30, 2015 by tifino

[metisdead]

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[masquerade]

The army think they can get away with everything, but watch my words, a civil war is what's in the brewing process.

Very true they are in for a nASTY shock soon me thinks

You do not know Thais they love each unending and their will be no civil war.

You has a Farang have no right to talk about Non Harmony in Thailand

Then I must be in a dream; the way Thais treat one another and take advantage of the so called "Thainess phenomena' is just an illusion. And for the record, we non Thais have the bloody right to talk about who, what or where; when, where and why. If it offends you sunshine get of this forum as your xenophobia is insulting.

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[Skywalker69]

Khun Thaksin and compassion dosn´t walk hand in hand. His spinndoctors must work 24/7.

[tbthailand]

he flew back to Dubai and spent his time meditating whenever there is free time.

maybe he and Suthep should get together and start a new Wat in the jungle somewhere...

[fasteddie]

The best repellent against this lying self-centered bastard would be to stop writing about him in the news. Who cares about what Thaksin says or what he thinks anyway? Butt kissing the junta now via cheap words will not get him anywhere... He should learn to let go, isn't that one of the Buddha teachings as well?

"Who cares about what Thaksin says or what he thinks anyway?"

That'll be the majority of the Thai electorate.

[rubl]

he flew back to Dubai and spent his time meditating whenever there is free time.

maybe he and Suthep should get together and start a new Wat in the jungle somewhere...

Agree. Let Thaksin come back and let's build a nice place for the two of them. With high walls and barbed-wire to keep the worshippers out and allow the two the peace and quiet needed for meditation.

[cookee68]

Why would he worry, he has more passports in other countries, than the country its self

[ratcatcher]

Nonetheless, he noted that the powers-that-be chose to cause disunity

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Sorry Mr T. but I could not read that rubbish without thinking about what you spitefully caused in 2010.

And a cobra does not have compassion. Only venom.

"Venom."

Another word for venom is toxin. Strange, but true.

[pattayahenry]

TAKSIN-
nobody ever in thai history has done so much for the poor in thailand. that is a fact. he will forever be loved by the majority of he poor in thailand, they are the only ones, whose opinion counts, because they experience the big improvements of their lives every day.
ousting taksin was a coup for the rich, every insider knows this. his conviction for corruption was a joke, every thai politician in history has done the same.( taksins wife bought a house allegedly too cheap from the government, that happens everywhere, everyday in thailand)
i am sure, he will come back, he simply cannot abandon half of the population in thailand, who is patiently waiting for him.

[rubl]

TAKSIN-

nobody ever in thai history has done so much for the poor in thailand. that is a fact. he will forever be loved by the majority of he poor in thailand, they are the only ones, whose opinion counts, because they experience the big improvements of their lives every day.

ousting taksin was a coup for the rich, every insider knows this. his conviction for corruption was a joke, every thai politician in history has done the same.( taksins wife bought a house allegedly too cheap from the government, that happens everywhere, everyday in thailand)

i am sure, he will come back, he simply cannot abandon half of the population in thailand, who is patiently waiting for him.

Since you mention insiders, you might have heard that k. Potjaman then wife of k. Thaksin bought a piece of land and needed her husbands signature to show his approval. She didn't even buy it real cheap and the complained was not about the price anyway. It was deemed a matter of 'conflict of interest'. Both were Amply Rich enough not to need to be greedy and could have waited to do private business till Thaksin was out of office.

BTW 'done so much for the poor' and 'loved by the majority of the poor in Thailand' followed by 'half of the population of Thailand'.

Any idea what percentage of the Thai population is considered 'poor' ? Shouldn't you describe at least part of those 'poor' as 'lower income classes' or better'? That is assuming Thaksin did something structural for the poor which helped them to be no longer poor and stay on that elevated status.

[billd766]

TAKSIN-

nobody ever in thai history has done so much for the poor in thailand. that is a fact. he will forever be loved by the majority of he poor in thailand, they are the only ones, whose opinion counts, because they experience the big improvements of their lives every day.

ousting taksin was a coup for the rich, every insider knows this. his conviction for corruption was a joke, every thai politician in history has done the same.( taksins wife bought a house allegedly too cheap from the government, that happens everywhere, everyday in thailand)

i am sure, he will come back, he simply cannot abandon half of the population in thailand, who is patiently waiting for him.

Sigh.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all?

Who is TAKSIN? There was a King Taksin the great but I will assume that you are talking about Thaksin Shinawatra.

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taksin

Taksin (Thai: สมเด็จพระเจ้าตากสินมหาราช, rtgs: Somdet Phra Chao Taksin Maha Rat, listen (help·info)) or the King of Thonburi (Thai: สมเด็จพระเจ้ากรุงธนบุรี, rtgs: Somdet Phra Chao Krung Thon Buri; Chinese: 鄭信; pinyin: Zhèng Xin; Teochew: Dên Chao; Vietnamese: Trịnh Quốc Anh) (April 17, 1734 – April 7, 1782) was the only King of the Thonburi Kingdom and was of Thai Chinese heritage. He was a leader in the liberation of Siam from Burmese occupation after the Second Fall of Ayutthaya in 1767, and the subsequent unification of Siam after it fell under various warlords.

Also from Wilipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

This article is about the former Prime Minister of Thailand. For other uses, see Thaksin (disambiguation).

This is a Thai name. Thaksin is the given name; Shinawatra is the family name. According to Thai custom, this person should properly be referred to by the given name Thaksin.

Before you post rubbish first try to do a little research and also try to spell peoples names correctly. Apart from being one of the forum rules it is also polite and may even give people a clue who you are talking about.

His conviction was NOT for corruption but for abuse of power.

His wife did not buy a house but some land.

No other PM in Thai history has done this.

Thakisn was NOT ousted as he was illegally occupying the caretaker position.

quote "every insider knows this." Are you an insider?

He is certainly NOT loved by the majority of the poor in Thailand, in Issan perhaps but Issan is not the majority of Thailand.

He will NOT come back to Thailand unless he gets a 100% amnesty and he cannot get an amnesty under Thai law until he has served part of his sentence, is truly repentant and it is approved by the King.

Edited June 1, 2015 by billd766

[phutoie2]

Picking someone up for missing a "h" out of a Thai name, thats clever and so is quoting wiki at all & sundry. How do you measure Thaksins popularity in the country then?, been around the provinces and asked everyone. Stick to farming on your allotment in KPP, your becoming a bit of parody now.

[pattayahenry]

"Until Thaksin, no Thai prime minister had served out his allocated term. Thaksin won, and then won again with an increased majority, and after he was deposed in a coup, his supporters won too, and went on winning.
The horrified loathing that he excited in the minority was partly political, the response of an established ruling class that found itself abruptly and indefinitely locked out of power."(quoted from theAsia editor of the Times.)

http://www.irrawaddy.org/asia/ex-pm-thaksin-saintly-figure-rural-thailand.html

in english media thaksin is more common, but in thailand, thaksin himself called his magazine- the voice of taksin (without h).
http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/08/13/thaksin-supporters-magazine

you can write thaksin or taksin, its a matter of translation. (his familyname is shinawatra or chinnawat, both is correct, just a different translation) if you google the pictures of taksin, you will find more pictures from the prime minister than from king taksin. same as pattaya-phattaya. the offical translation for pattaya is phattaya.

[rubl]

"Until Thaksin, no Thai prime minister had served out his allocated term. Thaksin won, and then won again with an increased majority, and after he was deposed in a coup, his supporters won too, and went on winning.

The horrified loathing that he excited in the minority was partly political, the response of an established ruling class that found itself abruptly and indefinitely locked out of power."(quoted from theAsia editor of the Times.)

http://www.irrawaddy.org/asia/ex-pm-thaksin-saintly-figure-rural-thailand.html

in english media thaksin is more common, but in thailand, thaksin himself called his magazine- the voice of taksin (without h).

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2009/08/13/thaksin-supporters-magazine

you can write thaksin or taksin, its a matter of translation. (his familyname is shinawatra or chinnawat, both is correct, just a different translation) if you google the pictures of taksin, you will find more pictures from the prime minister than from king taksin. same as pattaya-phattaya. the offical translation for pattaya is phattaya.

Politicians and shrewed business people know the advantage of suggested association with well-known figures as somehow to the 'educated' public there is a near automatic believe the one associating has similar treats.

Of course, for an esteemed member like you it doesn't matter if we write pattaya or phattaya. You're still only our Henry.

[tbthailand]

TAKSIN-

nobody ever in thai history has done so much for the poor in thailand. that is a fact. he will forever be loved by the majority of he poor in thailand, they are the only ones, whose opinion counts, because they experience the big improvements of their lives every day.

ousting taksin was a coup for the rich, every insider knows this. his conviction for corruption was a joke, every thai politician in history has done the same.( taksins wife bought a house allegedly too cheap from the government, that happens everywhere, everyday in thailand)

i am sure, he will come back, he simply cannot abandon half of the population in thailand, who is patiently waiting for him.

Sigh.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all?

Who is TAKSIN? There was a King Taksin the great but I will assume that you are talking about Thaksin Shinawatra.

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taksin

Taksin (Thai: สมเด็จพระเจ้าตากสินมหาราช, rtgs: Somdet Phra Chao Taksin Maha Rat, listen (help·info)) or the King of Thonburi (Thai: สมเด็จพระเจ้ากรุงธนบุรี, rtgs: Somdet Phra Chao Krung Thon Buri; Chinese: 鄭信; pinyin: Zhèng Xin; Teochew: Dên Chao; Vietnamese: Trịnh Quốc Anh) (April 17, 1734 – April 7, 1782) was the only King of the Thonburi Kingdom and was of Thai Chinese heritage. He was a leader in the liberation of Siam from Burmese occupation after the Second Fall of Ayutthaya in 1767, and the subsequent unification of Siam after it fell under various warlords.

Also from Wilipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

This article is about the former Prime Minister of Thailand. For other uses, see Thaksin (disambiguation).

This is a Thai name. Thaksin is the given name; Shinawatra is the family name. According to Thai custom, this person should properly be referred to by the given name Thaksin.

Before you post rubbish first try to do a little research and also try to spell peoples names correctly. Apart from being one of the forum rules it is also polite and may even give people a clue who you are talking about.

His conviction was NOT for corruption but for abuse of power.

His wife did not buy a house but some land.

No other PM in Thai history has done this.

Thakisn was NOT ousted as he was illegally occupying the caretaker position.

quote "every insider knows this." Are you an insider?

He is certainly NOT loved by the majority of the poor in Thailand, in Issan perhaps but Issan is not the majority of Thailand.

He will NOT come back to Thailand unless he gets a 100% amnesty and he cannot get an amnesty under Thai law until he has served part of his sentence, is truly repentant and it is approved by the King.

Thai transliteration is notoriously flexible. You already understood who he was talking about so give it a rest.

As for your own facts, I guess you have proof that Thaksin was " illegally occupying the caretaker position"... especially since (strangely similar to 2014) there were elections scheduled at the time of the 2006 coup...

Right? you can prove what you said, ... come on now, ... cough it up....

[billd766]

TAKSIN-

nobody ever in thai history has done so much for the poor in thailand. that is a fact. he will forever be loved by the majority of he poor in thailand, they are the only ones, whose opinion counts, because they experience the big improvements of their lives every day.

ousting taksin was a coup for the rich, every insider knows this. his conviction for corruption was a joke, every thai politician in history has done the same.( taksins wife bought a house allegedly too cheap from the government, that happens everywhere, everyday in thailand)

i am sure, he will come back, he simply cannot abandon half of the population in thailand, who is patiently waiting for him.

Sigh.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all?

Who is TAKSIN? There was a King Taksin the great but I will assume that you are talking about Thaksin Shinawatra.

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taksin

Taksin (Thai: สมเด็จพระเจ้าตากสินมหาราช, rtgs: Somdet Phra Chao Taksin Maha Rat, listen (help·info)) or the King of Thonburi (Thai: สมเด็จพระเจ้ากรุงธนบุรี, rtgs: Somdet Phra Chao Krung Thon Buri; Chinese: 鄭信; pinyin: Zhèng Xin; Teochew: Dên Chao; Vietnamese: Trịnh Quốc Anh) (April 17, 1734 – April 7, 1782) was the only King of the Thonburi Kingdom and was of Thai Chinese heritage. He was a leader in the liberation of Siam from Burmese occupation after the Second Fall of Ayutthaya in 1767, and the subsequent unification of Siam after it fell under various warlords.

Also from Wilipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra

This article is about the former Prime Minister of Thailand. For other uses, see Thaksin (disambiguation).

This is a Thai name. Thaksin is the given name; Shinawatra is the family name. According to Thai custom, this person should properly be referred to by the given name Thaksin.

Before you post rubbish first try to do a little research and also try to spell peoples names correctly. Apart from being one of the forum rules it is also polite and may even give people a clue who you are talking about.

His conviction was NOT for corruption but for abuse of power.

His wife did not buy a house but some land.

No other PM in Thai history has done this.

Thakisn was NOT ousted as he was illegally occupying the caretaker position.

quote "every insider knows this." Are you an insider?

He is certainly NOT loved by the majority of the poor in Thailand, in Issan perhaps but Issan is not the majority of Thailand.

He will NOT come back to Thailand unless he gets a 100% amnesty and he cannot get an amnesty under Thai law until he has served part of his sentence, is truly repentant and it is approved by the King.

Thai transliteration is notoriously flexible. You already understood who he was talking about so give it a rest.

As for your own facts, I guess you have proof that Thaksin was " illegally occupying the caretaker position"... especially since (strangely similar to 2014) there were elections scheduled at the time of the 2006 coup...

Right? you can prove what you said, ... come on now, ... cough it up....

Thaksin went to the King and formally resigned around 5th April 2006 and Police General Chitchai Wannasathit became the caretaker PM and was formally sworn in by the King by Royal Command and Thaksin quit politics. On 23 May 2006 Thaksin came back and was reconfirmed as PM by the caretaker government as parliament had been dissolved on 06 February 2006. He was NOT confirmed by Royal Command nor was he confirmed by parliament as there was no parliament. Therefore he was PM of a caretaker government in name only.

Links

http://language.chinadaily.com.cn/2006-04/06/content_561363.htm

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=atKOkbTLyoeo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Thailand

There are more links but I don't want to waste the time or space filling the post up.

[pattayahenry]

what you are writing, may be true or not, it has no relevance, that are only juridical tricks,
FACT is , thaksin was elected prime minister 2001, and since then ALWAYS had the majority, in every election, even in 10 years, he will easily win every election with a vast majority.
end of discussion-
http://www.irrawaddy.org/asia/ex-pm-thaksin-saintly-figure-rural-thailand.html

[jaidam]

what you are writing, may be true or not, it has no relevance, that are only juridical tricks,

FACT is , thaksin was elected prime minister 2001, and since then ALWAYS had the majority, in every election, even in 10 years, he will easily win every election with a vast majority.

end of discussion-

http://www.irrawaddy.org/asia/ex-pm-thaksin-saintly-figure-rural-thailand.html

Thank you for the link. Truly scary. The Khymer rouge years must be the red shirts wet dream. They have exactly the same punish the educated and intelligent mentality, only the ignorant and uneducated know what is best for everybody. Well, history doesn't describe 70's Cambodia as an agrarian utopia and it wouldn't describe decades of Shin dictatorship as utopia either - despite what the expensive propaganda suggests.

Did you read billd766's post? You described it as having no relevance and dismissed it as being tricks. His post gave a detailed reason as to why your viewpoint is totally wrong/factually incorrect. Basing opinions on emotions does not prepare one well for a reasoned debate.