webfact Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Trolleybus crash blamed on rusted acceleratorJitima JanphromThe NationKhon KaenKHON KAEN: -- A rusting accelerator has been identified as the likely cause of the fatal crash of two trolleybuses at the Khon Kaen Zoo.Assoc Prof Ratchaphon Suntivarakorn, who leads the Khon Kaen University's mechanical engineering department, examined the vehicles involved in the accident and found that the accelerator pedal had been rusted."There are grounds to believe that the rust caused the accelerator to fail," he said.The crash took place on Sunday, killing five people and injuring 55 others.Police called on Ratchaphon to help with the investigation, because he is an expert in mechanical engineering. He examined the vehicle in police presence.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Trolleybus-crash-blamed-on-rusted-accelerator-30263998.html-- The Nation 2015-07-08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 When it's not " brakes failed it's now accelerator fail because of rust ; Maybe they ( thai people ) MUST begin to learn some words like : maintain, clean , check periodically ... and especially to practice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 No, Thianess, buy more Amulets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 They should have review ,before getting Submarines and Bullet trains, if they cannot maintain trolley buses. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hey Prof, the pedal is at the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGS1244 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Cause rust, NO. more like cause failure of management to enforce routine maintenance program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 What! It's not the brakes! This is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygood Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 the cause of the bungee jump death, not the owners, but the rubber band broke and the zip line, not the operators, it was the damn safety harness that broke never a thais fault, always a reason not to blame self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It seems a shame that news reporters cannot use the correct terminology or simply, words, to describe these vehicles. Yesterday they were trams which run on steel rails or other fixed guide systems. Today they are trolley buses which are electric vehicles drawing power from overhead wires. I am not a mechanical engineer, but my guess is they are just diesel powered open sided buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 heat was also a contritibuting factor as friction increase was associated with the rapid taping of drivers foot keeping time to music.. that rusty is a dangerous guy, better have a refresher to his driving school dipoloma issued back in ''82'' application on a regular time frame of oil grease, wd 40, would go a long way in this country in prevenytng death/injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 heat was also a contritibuting factor as friction increase was associated with the rapid taping of drivers foot keeping time to music.. that rusty is a dangerous guy, better have a refresher to his driving school dipoloma issued back in ''82'' application on a regular time frame of oil grease, wd 40, would go a long way in this country in prevenytng death/injury In the world outside Thailand that is called MAINTENANCE. It is a western concept some say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hey Prof, the pedal is at the other end. Yep, just wondering if the Professor is that good, or if it got lost in translation? No idea if it's a photo of the crashed vehicle, but the upper cable seems to be relatively new. The Professor's pointing at the throttle and you can Google how many accidents world wide happen(ed), because of a hanging throttle, a broken cable that keeps the throttle open, or a broken spring that usually takes the throttle back. I find it hard to believe that so many here with their conspiracy theories are still blaming "stupid Thais"? Such things already happened too many times with Fords, Hondas, Toyotas,, Pontiacs and a few more..... Please see: http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/another-out-of-control-car-ford-investigation-expands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 That throttle cable looks new (although the inner looks rather dark). Did the good Prof. comment upon that? Did it get lubed on installation? Did the mechanism get lubed when the "tech" replaced the cable? So many questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) How does a rusty accelerator pedal cause the accident? Brake yes and even clutch but not the accelerator Edited July 8, 2015 by gandalf12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's called scheduled preventative maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I've got a can of WD40 bought here, so it is available..... everything rusts and corrodes, so not like it is a surprise or anything..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 When it's not " brakes failed it's now accelerator fail because of rust ; Maybe they ( thai people ) MUST begin to learn some words like : maintain, clean , check periodically ... and especially to practice . No such animal as preventative & scheduled maintenance in these types of operations in Thailand, where these processes encroach on the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 So anyone to blame here ? Is maintenance ever done on public service vehicles ? Does anyone actually care ? Think the only thing actually cared about is maximum profit versus lowest outgoings. And if necessary, health & safety issues swept under the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Normal wise the brakes win from engine power. Even if the accelerator has full throttle, the brakes can stop the vehicle It's "no contest" when you knock it out of gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Even with a stuck accelerator its a simple matter of knocking it into neutral whether auto or manual box (pretty sure it is an auto) and applying the brakes. Unfortunately applying for the job of driving 50 people around obviously doesn't require any proof of skill. These things are just based on a (usually wrecked) pickup.they make the bodies from scratch and use the pickup mechanicals. All knocked together by a bunch of untrained people in a shed at the lowest price possible. All the mechanicals inside the cab are open to the elements. No one ever gives the idea of any maintenance a passing thought. They will only get worked on once they break down or in this case, get wrecked. I can garantee they will be beaten back into service in a week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 And the sad thing is that with a bit of inspection and maintenance the five people who went to enjoy a day out of the zoo would still be with their friends and family today. Instead of being placed inside a funeral pyre. Once again 5 lives are cheaper than the cost of a 6 monthly inspection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 business as usual.....of course it was not the fault of the driver..........and rust came over night...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackanapes Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 as I stated before this is a tourist venue and in my opinion all vehicles should be regularly maintained but again this is Thailand what should be done never gets done its too much hassle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkt83100 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 My armchair advice would be to shut off the engine. It is just a turn of the key. And the steering wheel will not lock, unless you take the key out. But local drivers tend to stare with mouth wide open instead of doing something reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimlove Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 No matter who gets killed, how many or where it happen - Its not possible that its fault of a thai .... Too bad the idiot driver was not burmese huh ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chao Lao Beach Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 the cause of the bungee jump death, not the owners, but the rubber band broke and the zip line, not the operators, it was the damn safety harness that broke never a thais fault, always a reason not to blame self So true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I am wondering if they will drop the charge of the driver. Then arrest the owner of the zoo for not maintaining the vehicles. Hmm mmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Then why the driver didn't turn off the ignition by key? But it's the same at the temples, there are roundtrips in special tuktuks and the drivers are boys from 12-14. The drove me fast under some low hanging branches and if i didn't see them coming i wouldn't be here. It ain't strange that in the West we have driverlicenses, i mean real driverslicenses that took like 40-100 hours of lessons to get one. To me this engine looks fine, i don't see the rust. But was the vehicle inspected every year? If so then who did it? Was he licensed to do that? I allready refuse to go on Thai boats but i think from now on i will also boycot all Thai public transport except skytrains and metro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 They should have review ,before getting Submarines and Bullet trains, if they cannot maintain trolley buses. regards worgeordie Absolutely right, the same people looking after Khon Kaen Zoo's carts will be maintaining the subs and trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hey Prof, the pedal is at the other end. Hey, Einstein, it's a translation from Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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