Borzandy Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Mr Smith is not a usual name here, maybe Mr Smith doesn't know the rain-makers....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpharma Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Why not follow the exemple of Vietnam and buy vessels that can turn sea-water into drinking water instead of dreaming of the most expensive submarines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
727Sky Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 He also urged the government to take steps now to ensure there is water for consumption and drinking when the situation gets worse. He cited the case of Vietnam which has bought five vessels to make fresh water from sea water. That sounds like a better idea than buying submarines to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyman Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 If, as Smith suggests, the rains aren't going to come when the RID says "in August" and the reservoirs and water sources are running dry with a "disaster" about to come, urging urban people to stock up on water and rural people to dig wells and ponds (useless until there are some more rains), will just exacerbate the shortage and accelerate the drying up of remaining water stocks. If everyone starts using water at a faster rate than before, then the point at which the taps runs dry will be brought forwards, actually worsening the crisis (real or imagined). What this self-proclaimed "expert" does not do or advise is for people to use water more sparingly and conserve water, such as not washing their cars, sprinkling their lawns, going to the Ab-Ob-Nuad, washing clothes daily, showering thrice daily, leaving their tap dripping, not fixing that leak, etc, etc. which one can see all over Thailand being done, as if water was going out of fashion and had no scarcity value. Moreover, he would criticise the state sector far more roundly for allowing the situation to come to this after decades of mis-management, rather than his selective and self-congratulatory style of criticism. This guy, sadly, is as much part of the problem as the next member of the Thai elite in creating the situation that Thailand now finds itself in with regards to water (mis)management. He should have retired long ago, but like other dinosaurs, lingers around like the smells that emanate from a fetid khlong. "This guy' was the only one who warned everybody back in 2012 about water levels that were way too high in the country's dam's at that time and he predicted unusual heavy rains for the rest of that year fearing massive floods in big parts of the country. Then, nobody listened to him either, he was the only one who got it right however.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeklong Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 He forgot the third thing (the most important actually) that creates rainfall consistently. Forests. They create their own microclimate independent of storms and weather troughs. They respire moisture they draw from the ground, and the evaporation cools the air and causes rainfall. But what little forest is left in the northern areas is too little. Now CPF has people cutting down more forests to grow corn, before that it was orange trees or eucalyptus on plantations. The second problem with cutting down all the forests is that it is the reason it floods every time there is heavy rain. A virgin forest can receive heavy rainfall, but the water won't start seeping out for a week. The Queen has been telling people to protect forests and plant trees for years, but as usual greed wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybits Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I believe it is time to bring in the REAL Smiths... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Just put a 100 percent tax on water used by foreigners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeklong Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Srinakarin dam is the only dam that is full. It is located in north Kanchanaburi near the Thai- Myanmar border, an area which is still all forested. Here's a picture taken 10 days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Srinakarin dam is the only dam that is full. According to this article from today, "...amount of water at Srinagarind dam at 68 percent of its capacity or 12,113 mcm..." http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/water-level-at-bhumibol-and-sirikit-dams-most-critical-in-51-years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MockingJay Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) History repeats itself. In Thailand no one is ever prepared for anything that happens on a regular basis. When a Thai family father is completely boxed in in Bangkok rush hour, he is very perplexed and "wouldn't have thought that...", a Thai farmer in the rain depleted northeast, after losing his crop due to drought again, he is very perplexed and "wouldn't have thought that...", a Thai mother loses her son, because his head opened up like a melon on impact due to the missing safety helmet after cutting straight through the u-turn and losing the battle with the oncoming mini bus, she is very perplexed and "wouldn't have thought that...", a Thai farmer in the north, just before he freezes to death at sub zero temperature just wearing his t-shirt, sarong and flip flops is very perplexed and "wouldn't have thought that...", a Thai shop owner rows, again, with his paddle boat from his shop to the local market through his village which is flooded on a yearly basis and he is very perplexed and "wouldn't have thought that..." it's just efffin' unbelievable, as unbelievable as people building wooden houses in an area known as Hurricane Alley... but wait - that's not Thailand... hhhhmmmm.... Edited July 14, 2015 by MockingJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MockingJay Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Just put a 100 percent tax on water used by foreigners Don't give them any ideas - THIS government would certainly consider such an idiotic idea! Anything that would drive visitors, expats and investors away for good would be taken into account... as well as anything that hurts the small, common man on the street of course... Edited July 14, 2015 by MockingJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackanapes Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I am inclined to agree with smith the shortage of water has been happening for quite some time and for a country which is totally dependant on water for consumption and growing it is unbelievable that nothing has actually been done about it the installation of ground water wells and desalination plants is imperative now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varangkul Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It's inbred! Thailand is a tropical country, has always had monsoons during the summer months, providing ample water to meet requirements of both agriculture and domestic use, so why should it all change now? No one has told them about the growth of industry and its need for water. No one told them that cities and both rural and urban built up areas, require excessive amounts of water. They've always had water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Sharp Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 So, no more soapie massages in the near future ??? Furthermore, hope all potential tourists are advised to bring their own water !!! A sad state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 This drought was predicted some time ago. We are in an El Nino year and Asia often experiences less rainfall during these periods. I remember reading an article here on TV. But what do they do in preparation? Nothing, and now much of Thailand is experiencing most drought conditions. There seems to be a distinct difference between the south and the rest of Thailand, though rains did arrive very late on Phuket. I'm currently in Chachoengsao and many of the pond used for shrimp farming are dry. Cloudy today with a little rain forecast but it needs a lot of rain, a little is not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noosard Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Drove from nong khai to khon kaen this afternoon and it was biblical rain all the way from udon thani to KK. Still raining now.Had loads of rain this last week. Noah won't be floating an ark around here Yesterday 20ks west of Udon just a spit Today a couple extra spits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It's been pissing down on Phuket for six weeks and doesn't look like it's about to stop any time soon. What's he on about? Phuket represents a tiny blimp of an islands on Thailand's west coast. The potential drought is with regard to the regions at risk which are the central basin ,north and north east to which contain a far more significant population and agricultural base than Phuket. Be happy that you have the rain as many other folk are most likely incur hardship from this potential disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 And not too long ago, Bangkok was a water world. They should have saved that water when it was there for the taking. Silly Bangkok Residents. Yea, BKK residents should have filled every bottle they own, and bought more, in 2011 and stored it in their mansions until it was needed. Even smarter would have been to store it in the large storage dams built for that purpose. But "someone" decided that she didn't want to get blamed for the next flood and lowered the operating level curves for those dams by 7.5 billion cubic metres of water. Still waiting for that next flood. And it's a shame that huge volume of water wasn't there when needed. Water management is a very dynamic process with many variables. One year you need the dams to be full because an El Nino is forming, the next year it maybe an La Nina year with floods. The people incharge of water management must thus adapt the dams water levels according to prevailing conditions. About 8 months ago the first signs of an El Nino showed. Unfortunately Thailand did nothing to slow water use during this period. To put the blame on YS that haven't been in power for 18 months (1,5 dry seasons and 1,5 rainfall seasons) and looking past the glaring incompetence of the civil servants shows your political alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It would appear that Thailand invests public funds and copious manpower in several related, yet dysfunctional organizations who create mayhem through their innate inability to caucus and seek substantive agreement. We are constantly bombarded with contradictory data from the so called specialist government bodies that are tasked with this nations stability and resource management. None of which seem to have a clue as to what they are doing and simply send out meaningless propaganda statements . They try to create catastrophes simply so they can come out the next day and say they have managed the situation. A country of contradiction on a scale that engenders total confusion to the population as to what is really going on. Perhaps that in fact is their end game. Common sense would suggest that there will indeed be yet further significant impacts of drought which will only be lessened by the intervention of nature alone and not the self acclaimed efforts of these responsible agency's who do little to alleviate the problems outside of endless and useless pontification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesht Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 He also urged the government to take steps now to ensure there is water for consumption and drinking when the situation gets worse. He cited the case of Vietnam which has bought five vessels to make fresh water from sea water. That sounds like a better idea than buying submarines to me ! thais running and maintaining subs would be a laugh Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbonline Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Anyone knows about the water situation in Hua Hin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Lets all do our part. If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Srinakarin dam is the only dam that is full. It is located in north Kanchanaburi near the Thai- Myanmar border, an area which is still all forested. Here's a picture taken 10 days agoImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect1436842310.283179.jpg Much of the North is still forested but that doesn't make the dams any less empty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It's either mai pen rai or the sky is falling with these guys. Never anything in between. I have been picking up a couple of extra jugs of water with each trip to the store, though. I'd rather err on the side of too much than to suddenly find that I have too little. Same same ... 10 liters a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) He forgot the third thing (the most important actually) that creates rainfall consistently. Forests. They create their own microclimate independent of storms and weather troughs. They respire moisture they draw from the ground, and the evaporation cools the air and causes rainfall. But what little forest is left in the northern areas is too little. Now CPF has people cutting down more forests to grow corn, before that it was orange trees or eucalyptus on plantations. The second problem with cutting down all the forests is that it is the reason it floods every time there is heavy rain. A virgin forest can receive heavy rainfall, but the water won't start seeping out for a week. The Queen has been telling people to protect forests and plant trees for years, but as usual greed wins. Oh my. tail wags dog? Or could it be, forests grow in areas with long histories of rainfall? Guess we will never get the results of that experiment, it would mean having top plant a successful forest .. in a desert. Edited July 14, 2015 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I just spoke to the missus and told her to store some water, being Thai she thinks it will never happen , which annoyed me because this is to close for comfort , 30k away in Pathum Thani their taps are dry. If its prolonged her and the kids will have to come to stay in singapore with me and your wife and kids being with you in Singapore is not a good thing because.. ?? It is a good thing for them to come, but not if the kids miss school for too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The could look into desalination, and help reduce the consumption of ground water in the long run. They could look at actually learning to conserve water just a tad.... They should make Songkran a hanging offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmh8 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 and now for a bit of stating the bloody obvious- of course it will get worse, even if it rains the dry sun baked land will not soak up water easily, the first major storm will result in flooding knee jerk reaction flooding probelm last year or was it year before resulted in dams not remaining full no water management yet remains the hub of water management for ASEAN will take a long time to build water desalination yet I think they would empty the chao phraya first. next we will find Laos ( china) putting a bit more pressure on Thailand by building more damns no loss of face to be had there though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parryhandy Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hosing it down in khon kaen again tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckmandon Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 We have this situation in Australia every couple of years. Its a weather effect called drought caused by global warming. Everyone must realize we need to conserve the use of water which is restrict its uses & fine people if they do not. In Australia in certain areas even now there is plenty of water there are restrictions on when you can water your garden or wash your car. Here in Thailand they continually waste water hosing down the roads & nut thinking about any sort of conservation. The dams will fill up again when we receive decent rainfall in the catchment areas for the dams. It may be as stated by many "pissing down" in the cities but that does not fill up the dams. Most of that water is lost to rivers or klongs or just sinks into the ground. Everyone world wide needs to conserve our most preciuos resource. WATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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