BoristheBlade Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ready to pick up his Koh Tao cash from the headman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I hate him because he almost destroyed the country I call home. and what do you think about Mr Thaksin who is desperately trying to do this from abroad for almost 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJohnson Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 old wine, new bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) when I read all this TVF members anti-Suthep ranting - I respect him even more. a person who is hated by so man of bitter farang sugar daddies should be really great... Yeah you re right to respect him: it is not like he is accused of palm oil market manipulation, land stealing and fraudulent selling in the south, that even his associated think and told many time he is a corrupted politician and of course that nobody knows what happened with all the "donations" made by his supporters.... "palm oil market manipulation" is not proven, and about distribution of land in Phuket province - nobody is perfect, but at least he is an independent politician and not a Western marionette. He is fighting for his country - not for white misters in pith helmets. that's why he is so hated by people like you. It s good to see that his spin doctors did a good work on you. "nobody is perfect"...yeah tell this to the poors who should have this land instead of tycoons... But as usual you will refer to the "red" instead of opening your eyes. So "nobody is perfect" is enough to be excused for its corruption, well in this case we can apply this to anybody....Thaksin, Prayuth, and more....If you use it for Suthep we can use it for anybody, right? or just Suthep is eligible? Two wrongs not make one right you know.... For the palm market it was not proven because he is corrupted and work closely with corrupted people. It has never been proved that the heir of Red bull killed a cop as he is still sick after two years in Singapore. It has not been proven that the recent thai model killed a cop under the influence of alcohol because she refused the test. You didn t mention the money he received while he was in the street...maybe you have the papers showing what he did with.... Being anti suthep does not make one a pro thaksin... Anyway we can see the good results he had with Prayouth : he wanted a coup, he has it. Now we can see how wonderful this government work and how efficient it is for the thai people ( i do not speak about the establishment)... Edited July 28, 2015 by GeorgesAbitbol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Suthep says he has a mission to accomplish after leaving monkhoodBANGKOK: -- Former leader of the People’s Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) Suthep Thaugsuban said he had a mission to accomplish – a mission that he cannot do so long as he remains in the monkhood.Mr Suthep or Phra Suthep Paphakaro entered the monkhood on July 15 last year. He left the monkhood Tuesday morning at Wat Traidhammaram in Surat Thani’s Muang district. The other two monks who were active in the PDRC’s protests against the Yingluck government over a year ago, Phra Shane Arpatharo and Phra Chinnaworn Chanthasaro, also left the monkhood.Mr Suthep disclosed several people wanted him to stay longer in the monkhood but he couldn’t because he had a duty to perform. He did not elaborate but said he would bare all at a press conference to be held on July 30.As for the court cases that are still pending, the former PDRC leader announced that he would fight all the cases no matter the consequences. He admitted that he was worried with all the cases “because my opponents are influential and still have influence over the police and public prosecutors and I have to keep telling myself to have faith in the system.”However, he said that he would not ask for Royal pardon or amnesty to exonerate himself and urged the other politicians to do so like him.As the former protest leader, Mr Suthep said that he would not ask for an amnesty or pardon although the charges against him carry death sentence, He said that he didn’t want people who committed serious offences such as lese majeste to be granted with amnesty.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/suthep-says-he-has-a-mission-to-accomplish-after-leaving-monkhood -- Thai PBS 2015-07-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildragon Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I love how the sycophants scream corruption at Thaksin yet it is ok for their hero Suthep to do it because he plays for the 'right' team. This man is a crook and should be in jail. Not an easy cop out monk hood into cushty political job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkrieg Bob Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 "palm oil market manipulation" is not proven, and about distribution of land in Phuket province - nobody is perfect, but at least he is an independent politician and not a Western marionette. He is fighting for his country - not for white misters in pith helmets. that's why he is so hated by people like you. It s good to see that his spin doctors did a good work on you. "nobody is perfect"...yeah tell this to the poors who should have this land instead of tycoons... But as usual you will refer to the "red" instead of opening your eyes. So "nobody is perfect" is enough to be excused for its corruption, well in this case we can apply this to anybody....Thaksin, Prayuth, and more....If you use it for Suthep we can use it for anybody, right? or just Suthep is eligible? Two wrongs not make one right you know.... For the palm market it was not proven because he is corrupted and work closely with corrupted people. It has never been proved that the heir of Red bull killed a cop as he is still sick after two years in Singapore. It has not been proven that the recent thai model killed a cop under the influence of alcohol because she refused the test. You didn t mention the money he received while he was in the street...maybe you have the papers showing what he did with.... Being anti suthep does not make one a pro thaksin... Anyway we can see the good results he had with Prayouth : he wanted a coup, he has it. Now we can see how wonderful this government work and how efficient it is for the thai people ( i do not speak about the establishment)... did you ever heard "everybody is innocent until proven guilty"? do you have any proof? if no it's just a slander now truly nation - oriented government (independent from western puppeteers) is managing the country that's why you hate it. And Suthep helped it to take power. That's why you hate him. My mom always taught me to not judge a book by its cover - well, you blow that whole concept to pieces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 when I read all this TVF members anti-Suthep ranting - I respect him even more. a person who is hated by so man of bitter farang sugar daddies should be really great... Yeah you re right to respect him: it is not like he is accused of palm oil market manipulation, land stealing and fraudulent selling in the south, that even his associated think and told many time he is a corrupted politician and of course that nobody knows what happened with all the "donations" made by his supporters.... "palm oil market manipulation" is not proven, and about distribution of land in Phuket province - nobody is perfect, but at least he is an independent politician and not a Western marionette. He is fighting for his country - not for white misters in pith helmets. that's why he is so hated by people like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Inflammatory insults and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 yes. for being hated by people like you. the main wish of sugardaddies here is Thailand to be cheap as long as possible - so Isaan girls would still do anything for a few dollars and they can cheaply bribe a cop if caught with an underage girl or a bag of marijuana. If Thailand will become a developed country - prices will skyrocket and people like you will have to move somewhere else with their ridiculous pensions. seems like after our previous conversation you not dare to answer anything except smiling faces. that makes me to like you even more It seems that you not apply what you ask from the others. I still wait your arguments about how Suthep is clear of everything, why the "nobody is perfect" could be applied to him and not other. As for the "phra" Suthep, this means nothing: we could also look at the "phra" Vuitton who went to shopping in private plane. You could be quite amusing if the topic was not so sad... I will not take the time to give you all the links which put Suthep motivations depp inside the corruption thing cause you ll probably won t even take the time to read it and "look the other way" like many do. Enjoy your day, your answers clearly show your lack of impartiality.... What you seem to forget here is we, sugar daddy farangs as you call us (even if i am not a dad and maybe younger than you), are just tired to see that one crook replace another in this country...and Suthep is a big crook...but it s ok, cause " nobody is perfect" right? what a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It's unbelievable to see that this criminal is not in jail for almost pulling this Thailand into civil war. Clearly shows the level of corruption and hypocrisy in this country. My, oh my.... Well, "...this criminal is not in jail for almost pulling this Thailand into civil war." The other criminal that almost pulled Thailand into civil war is in self imposed exile, a polite way of saying on the lam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 when I read all this TVF members anti-Suthep ranting - I respect him even more. a person who is hated by so man of bitter farang sugar daddies should be really great... Yeah you re right to respect him: it is not like he is accused of palm oil market manipulation, land stealing and fraudulent selling in the south, that even his associated think and told many time he is a corrupted politician and of course that nobody knows what happened with all the "donations" made by his supporters.... "palm oil market manipulation" is not proven, and about distribution of land in Phuket province - nobody is perfect, but at least he is an independent politician and not a Western marionette. He is fighting for his country - not for white misters in pith helmets. that's why he is so hated by people like you. Also; who do you think Suthep works for? his country...nei, he works for himself in the best case, and for people far above him obviously, which will also benefits to...him! Did he built a bridge or helped the people with the oney he grabbed during the unrests? obviously no neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 What you seem to forget here is we, sugar daddy farangs as you call us (even if i am not a dad and maybe younger than you), are just tired to see that one crook replace another in this country...and Suthep is a big crook...but it s ok, cause " nobody is perfect" right? what a joke! so what's a problem? if you are so tired of Thailand why don't you relocate to another country which better suits your political views? Thai people have no obligation to make you happy by their politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) What you seem to forget here is we, sugar daddy farangs as you call us (even if i am not a dad and maybe younger than you), are just tired to see that one crook replace another in this country...and Suthep is a big crook...but it s ok, cause " nobody is perfect" right? what a joke! so what's a problem? if you are so tired of Thailand why don't you relocate to another country which better suits your political views? Thai people have no obligation to make you happy by their politics. The problem is you seem to be angry at us, having a different opinion than yours, and of course your other problem is to not be able to handle the truth about your hero. Liking or not Suthep is not why i am here....I also have no obligation to side with you on this Crook and can tell you, even if you don t like this, that Suthep is corrupted as much as the other ones and even more, since a very long time... Did you make any research about him? Did you also explained me why "nobody is perfect" can be applied to him and not others? If you don t like to read other peoples opinion, you should leave this board PS: it is again the forum rule to not quote the full message when you answer it Edited July 28, 2015 by GeorgesAbitbol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 What you seem to forget here is we, sugar daddy farangs as you call us (even if i am not a dad and maybe younger than you), are just tired to see that one crook replace another in this country...and Suthep is a big crook...but it s ok, cause " nobody is perfect" right? what a joke! so what's a problem? if you are so tired of Thailand why don't you relocate to another country which better suits your political views? Thai people have no obligation to make you happy by their politics. It seems that the thai people wants a certain kind of politics by the way, strangely each time the results is not what the establishment wants, even if the majority has spoken, a coup comes... The ones who are not happy by the thais and the politic they want are those of the establishment mainly.... Let me know when you have aby recent date of elected democrats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Apparently Than Suthep has been given the go ahead by the NCPO to hold his press conference.On the face of it this is odd given the fact it is by definition a political event and the harsh treatment meted out to others who have made political statements. Still one suspects that if Suthep says something like "the Junta is doing a jolly good job and should remain in power for ages, chaiyo" then the powers that be will deem the event to be non political. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 The police should have been outside the Temple ready to arrest him for the crimes he has committed . This Temple stay was to avoid him being dragged to court ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW72 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 when I read all this TVF members anti-Suthep ranting - I respect him even more. a person who is hated by so man of bitter farang sugar daddies should be really great... Yeah you re right to respect him: it is not like he is accused of palm oil market manipulation, land stealing and fraudulent selling in the south, that even his associated think and told many time he is a corrupted politician and of course that nobody knows what happened with all the "donations" made by his supporters.... "palm oil market manipulation" is not proven, and about distribution of land in Phuket province - nobody is perfect, but at least he is an independent politician and not a Western marionette. He is fighting for his country - not for white misters in pith helmets. that's why he is so hated by people like you. Forget about all of those things he has been accused of. I dislike him because here is a guy who is the deputy of the Democrat party and leader of the People's Democratic Reform Committee and his idea of democracy is to do away with the elected regime and install a non elected peoples council. There can be no denying these facts and that makes him a tosser in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 when I read all this TVF members anti-Suthep ranting - I respect him even more. a person who is hated by so man of bitter farang sugar daddies should be really great... Yeah you re right to respect him: it is not like he is accused of palm oil market manipulation, land stealing and fraudulent selling in the south, that even his associated think and told many time he is a corrupted politician and of course that nobody knows what happened with all the "donations" made by his supporters.... "palm oil market manipulation" is not proven, and about distribution of land in Phuket province - nobody is perfect, but at least he is an independent politician and not a Western marionette. He is fighting for his country - not for white misters in pith helmets. that's why he is so hated by people like you. To describe Than Suthep as an independent politician betrays a level of ignorance or self delusion that makes a reasoned response almost impossible. He has served his masters.If he becomes an obstacle or irritation he will be crushed. The reference to white misters and pith helmets is unfathomable.If this is meant to mean an bristling Thai nationalism then other tough guys like Thaksin could be included.It's people like Abhisit and Anand that are strongly influenced by the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) democracy is a lie which American NGOs use as a weapon against independent governments. any society consists of of 80% losers and 20% winners, and for a demagogue it's easy to convince losers that they are poor not because they are lazy and incompetent but because the minority stole from them. that's why any democracy leads to socialism and an idea "rob and share". it already happened in Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Greece... even America drifts to socialism, notwithstanding that US is not a true democracy (anti-populist democrat-republican filter). even Aristotle was against democracy - but modern political discourse would not admit the obvious... Edited August 2, 2015 by TimmyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Like all of his ilk everything he does is, of course, for the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The police should have been outside the Temple ready to arrest him for the crimes he has committed . This Temple stay was to avoid him being dragged to court !Ahahaha....you are funny and seriously deluded.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 From thief to monk and back again... A flip flop wearing flip flopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Do you know that uncomfortable feeling when your balls get tangled in your bloomers and you actually have to use your hand to reposition your balls to walk normally? That feeling is Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaorop Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What you seem to forget here is we, sugar daddy farangs as you call us (even if i am not a dad and maybe younger than you), are just tired to see that one crook replace another in this country...and Suthep is a big crook...but it s ok, cause " nobody is perfect" right? what a joke! so what's a problem? if you are so tired of Thailand why don't you relocate to another country which better suits your political views? Thai people have no obligation to make you happy by their politics. 555 classic "why dont you go home then " Strong argument you got going there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyT Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 What you seem to forget here is we, sugar daddy farangs as you call us (even if i am not a dad and maybe younger than you), are just tired to see that one crook replace another in this country...and Suthep is a big crook...but it s ok, cause " nobody is perfect" right? what a joke! so what's a problem? if you are so tired of Thailand why don't you relocate to another country which better suits your political views? Thai people have no obligation to make you happy by their politics. 555 classic "why dont you go home then " Strong argument you got going there and do you have a refutation of it? 1) you can't accept how thing are being done in Thailand 2) you are just a guest here, so you have neither moral nor legal right to influence politics so why don't you leave this country? I bet, Thailand will not miss you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 and along comes another misguided sycophant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't want to sound like I have joined the "but, but, Suthep" ! gang, but this guy has to roped in. Or tied up. All he is going to is stir up the reds and give them an excuse to play up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't want to sound like I have joined the "but, but, Suthep" ! gang, but this guy has to roped in. Or tied up. All he is going to is stir up the reds and give them an excuse to play up. Thank you for this piece of profound analysis.You clearly have a deep and comprehensive grasp of the nuances and complexities of Thai society and politics.I am sure I speak for many in saying we look forward to more of your fascinating observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't want to sound like I have joined the "but, but, Suthep" ! gang, but this guy has to roped in. Or tied up. All he is going to is stir up the reds and give them an excuse to play up. Thank you for this piece of profound analysis.You clearly have a deep and comprehensive grasp of the nuances and complexities of Thai society and politics.I am sure I speak for many in saying we look forward to more of your fascinating observations. You are the grand poo bah of sarcasm jayboy ! But I much prefer your usual nasty, insulting and condescending remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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