Why is China buying one million tons of rice from Thailand?

[h90]

You buy our Rice....and then we will buy your submarines....winwin, we will look good, you will look good, everyone happy happy!

Thailand (Thaksin regime) wanted to buy Russian airplanes and buy with frozen chicken (CP) but get the kick back in USD....that made the Russians so upset that they direct spoke it out.....

[webfact]

China agrees to buy 2 million tons of rice from Thailand

BANGKOK, 11 August 2015 (NNT) - The Chinese government has agreed to purchase two million tons of rice from Thailand through a government-to-government (G2G) deal.

Commerce Minister General Chatchai Sarikalaya said after visiting China that Thailand will deliver two million tons of rice over two years. The first million tons, which include Jasmine rice and other refined grains, will be sold at market price before the end of December.

The remaining rice will be put up for another round of G2G discussions around mid-September, when Chinese representatives visit Thailand.


-- NNT 2015-08-11

[h90]

They are buying it so they continue to look like a nice big cuddly teddy bear to Thailand and continue to lull them into a false sense of security. One day they will morph from a teddy bear into a hungry dragon.

I strongly doubt that China will attack Thailand. It looks more like they want friendly countries around them. So they'll be in teddy bear mode as long as Thailand doesn't make problems. They are cuddeling now even with Russia......

[cooked]

It is all part of the deal that Thailand is giving China to build a lot of the rail, road infrastructure etc.

We will give you this if you buy this. Etc etc.

Yes, I am wondering if 'buy' is a mistranslation of 'barter' as that was one of the words being used when financing of the rail project was being discussed.

[sgtsabai]

Just part of the investment China is making in its upcoming acquisition of its new vassal state, Thailand.

[halloween]

and, as the article then continues, ...

who was overthrown in a coup in May 2014. China had canceled an earlier deal to buy 1.2 million tons of Thai rice in February last year after the country’s anti-corruption agency launched a probe into the scheme

the question of the article could read "Why is China buying one million tons of rice from Thailand now?"

Will the NACC be looking into this deal with the same vigour as before?

Because they are fairly sure that China is involved in the deal and not some Thai-Chinese criminal hiding out overseas.

And that makes it different exactly how?

The rice will be exported.

[MZurf]

and, as the article then continues, ...

who was overthrown in a coup in May 2014. China had canceled an earlier deal to buy 1.2 million tons of Thai rice in February last year after the country’s anti-corruption agency launched a probe into the scheme

the question of the article could read "Why is China buying one million tons of rice from Thailand now?"

Will the NACC be looking into this deal with the same vigour as before?

Because they are fairly sure that China is involved in the deal and not some Thai-Chinese criminal hiding out overseas.

And that makes it different exactly how?

The rice will be exported.

Well, as you are fond of saying; time will tell.

[wabothai]

The minister doesn't know either. He asked the question.

Anyhow nobody has an answer.

[elgordo38]

"Why is China buying one million tons of rice from Thailand?"

And the answer to the question is..........??????

Down payment of 3 submarines? Covert operation.

[Thai at Heart]

Thai at Heart

How would buying the current crop ease the stockpiles that they refer to?

Exactly. While everyone assumes it to be old crop, they still have stock of new crop. Why would they buy old crop?

Unless of course, the old crop isn't quite so disastrously damaged as thought, or CP is going to use it for pig feed in China.....

Edited August 11, 2015 by Thai at Heart

[DipStick]

As we all know, China is a huge country with an even huger population. Fact. China is unable to feed itself. But on another note, the Chinese are now very nervous about the standards of products made in China and this is across the board from milk formula to washing detergents.

Australia have very wisely climbed on the wagon and are now exporting to china massive amounts of fresh milk which demands high prices, but is constantly in short supply. There are Australian companies who have imported Australian standard animals such a cattle, and sheep into Mongolia and are doing very well thank you.

Seeing Thai rice on supermarket shelves in China is common, but what is also noticed is that the Thai rice seems to move of the shelves quicker than local rice.

So for my two cents worth, I think this deal is great for both countries.

[djjamie]

I am sure this govt 2 govt deal is not an imaginary one either. That would be holding the majority in contempt.

It is actually nice of China to clean up the mess of the previous regime by taking this rice of the govt's hands. That will save a few tax baht in warehouse fees.

[halloween]

Because they are fairly sure that China is involved in the deal and not some Thai-Chinese criminal hiding out overseas.

And that makes it different exactly how?

The rice will be exported.

Well, as you are fond of saying; time will tell.

I'm quite sure that it won't be sold at far below cost price, and then re-sold on the local market at a huge illicit profit, as the latest government has learned from the corrupt activities of the elected preceding, and likely taken measures to prevent that happening again. It is called reform.

[rijb]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

[MZurf]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

The reform is that there are different snouts in the trough. But that is unfathomable for the cheerleaders.

Edited August 11, 2015 by MZurf

[Usernames]

This is a policy of kindness, brotherhood, and altruism from the benevolent, trustworthy partners in Beijing. As that Twilight Zone episode revealed about arriving extraterrestrial aliens' book on How to Serve Mankind, it's a cookbook!

[halloween]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

The reform is that they are aware of the criminal actions of the PTP ministers involved and are preventing that from recurring. If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?

[rijb]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

The reform is that they are aware of the criminal actions of the PTP ministers involved and are preventing that from recurring. If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?

I'm all for less corruption. Even if it's just for show.

My concern is that 'awareness' has a shorter shelf-life than 'real reform'.

[MZurf]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

The reform is that they are aware of the criminal actions of the PTP ministers involved and are preventing that from recurring. If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?

In one word; yes. Billions have been stolen in Thailand every year for eons and no coup has ever done anything to change that. But since the PTP was involved in the rice deal (read; bogeyman in Dubai) then all reason goes out the window.

Edited August 11, 2015 by MZurf

[ozyjon]

"Why is China buying one million tons of rice from Thailand?"

And the answer to the question is..........??????

Because not enough Chinese boys are marrying the Thai ladys

who's parents own rice fields they can send the rice back to

Shinaaaa, ask any Issan girl.

Wait till it happens.

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

Three red (yellow) submarines - how does the song go. So we know that no tender procedures was followed to determine which subs to buy, we also know that the rice will be sold at round about market price. The question is what market price will be used and what discount will be granted. Will there be any more transparency than with the dual rail lines and high speed trains. Dont hold your breath.

[LawrenceN]

Responding to the headline only, I'm just guessing here, but could it be to eat?

[fitnesspm]

Cause they are sick of eating cats and dogs.

[halloween]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

The reform is that they are aware of the criminal actions of the PTP ministers involved and are preventing that from recurring. If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?

In one word; yes. Billions have been stolen in Thailand every year for eons and no coup has ever done anything to change that. But since the PTP was involved in the rice deal (read; bogeyman in Dubai) then all reason goes out the window.

Stealing billions of baht without repercussions is acceptable to you?You stick with the reds, you will fit in well there.

[MZurf]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

The reform is that they are aware of the criminal actions of the PTP ministers involved and are preventing that from recurring. If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?

In one word; yes. Billions have been stolen in Thailand every year for eons and no coup has ever done anything to change that. But since the PTP was involved in the rice deal (read; bogeyman in Dubai) then all reason goes out the window.

Stealing billions of baht without repercussions is acceptable to you?You stick with the reds, you will fit in well there.

Oh, there should definitively be repercussions - the legal and constitutional way. Are you saying the military should step in every time someone has their hands in the till? You do know your championing eternal military rule, don't you?

You stick with the brown shirts - you're perfect together.

[halloween]

The reform is that they are aware of the criminal actions of the PTP ministers involved and are preventing that from recurring.

In one word; yes. Billions have been stolen in Thailand every year for eons and no coup has ever done anything to change that. But since the PTP was involved in the rice deal (read; bogeyman in Dubai) then all reason goes out the window.

Stealing billions of baht without repercussions is acceptable to you?You stick with the reds, you will fit in well there.

Oh, there should definitively be repercussions - the legal and constitutional way. Are you saying the military should step in every time someone has their hands in the till? You do know your championing eternal military rule, don't you?

You stick with the brown shirts - you're perfect together.

I understand that you have reading and comprehension problems, but when the question was

"If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?"

Your reply was "In one word; yes" Now you insist " ...there should definitively be repercussions - the legal and constitutional way."

How hard is it to understand that an AMNESTY removes all the legal and constitutional repercussions?

BTW No, and no I am not.

Edited August 11, 2015 by halloween

[coulson]

Responding to the headline only, I'm just guessing here, but could it be to eat?

Too obvious, and as the headline suggests, it is odd that the largest rice producing Country in the world enters a deal to secure 2 million tonnes of....rice.

If it smells off, involves the Chinese,IMO then it is fishy as pla ra.

In early-mid 2000's, China, the world's largest producer of steel, bought pretty much all the steel they could and drove the market through the roof. Anyone involved in the Construction Industry will remember this time when projects got delayed, suppliers had to re-write their invoices and the cost of anything containing a screw went up in price.

China helps Thailand with some excess rice stock piles, gets a good deal, will use it to manipulate the market somehow and expect them to later come back for the return favor.

[MZurf]

In one word; yes. Billions have been stolen in Thailand every year for eons and no coup has ever done anything to change that. But since the PTP was involved in the rice deal (read; bogeyman in Dubai) then all reason goes out the window.

Stealing billions of baht without repercussions is acceptable to you?You stick with the reds, you will fit in well there.

Oh, there should definitively be repercussions - the legal and constitutional way. Are you saying the military should step in every time someone has their hands in the till? You do know your championing eternal military rule, don't you?

You stick with the brown shirts - you're perfect together.

I understand that you have reading and comprehension problems, but when the question was

"If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?"

Your reply was "In one word; yes" Now you insist " ...there should definitively be repercussions - the legal and constitutional way."

How hard is it to understand that an AMNESTY removes all the legal and constitutional repercussions?

BTW No, and no I am not.

You mean just like the amnesty the current rulers have granted themselves? You talk like as if the former government(s) had granted themselves amnesty that this would have been honored by subsequent administrations.

You DO know that the current rulers tore up the constitution and gave themselves god like powers, right? They can do anything they want.

The right way to "punish" the former administration would have been to defeat them in an election, and then the whole process of inquiries into the rice scheme (and other schemes) could have been started.

But lo and behold...the very forces that most strongly objected to the previous government was the forces that blocked an election. Wonder why!!!

"I understand that you have reading and comprehension problems"

I read quite well, thank you. It's comprehending the drivel you write that causes problems.

[Thai at Heart]

Reform?

They're selling some rice. How is that 'reform'?

The reform is that they are aware of the criminal actions of the PTP ministers involved and are preventing that from recurring. If we had an amnesty instead of a coup, PTP's appointed criminals would have stolen billions of baht with no repercussions.

Would that be acceptable to you?

In one word; yes. Billions have been stolen in Thailand every year for eons and no coup has ever done anything to change that. But since the PTP was involved in the rice deal (read; bogeyman in Dubai) then all reason goes out the window.

Stealing billions of baht without repercussions is acceptable to you?You stick with the reds, you will fit in well there.

I still await anyone proving where this so called billions were meant to be stolen from or whether this represents figure larger than the norm in Thai politics.

[ggt]

China is likely thinking they can buy tons of discounted putrid rice...repackage it into smaller bags...sell to unsuspecting 3rd world countries...then claim it was fine when it left the mainland...normal type of business for the Chinese...