Not fooling anyone

[Mencken]

Sans degree, you got a job (!) and with that a visa that allows you to stay in Thailand. Not only that but you are making (not earning perhaps) some money. You have a "girlfriend' or spend hours on Line checking out all the hot ladies who will sleep with you - for money. You have a need to constantly validate yourself by sharing tbis with others. You use the school computer to visit dating sites, well done champ.

You are wholly lost in the environment. Clueless how to manage a class. You run the same hackneyed games and tired worksheets that your tefl course had given you. Genius.

You really don't care about the students or your job and it shows. Your clothes are a mess, your breath and clothes might very well smell of cigarettes.

You often run out of money by months end.

You were hired in desperation. The school hoped you'd rise to the occassion but they had no idea that you are here because you are unemployable back home.

The game plan is to do such a poor job the school is afraid to ask you to contribute to activities. Then again, its not a plan.

You might have an arrest record, perhaps a drunk.

You are, not fooling anyone. Just so we are clear.

Edited August 19, 2015 by Mencken

[thesetat2013]

Sounds like you are doing a little self evaluation. Best you just get out of teaching and stick to being a drunk

[aarontendo]

I'm highly qualified and I tend to dress pretty poorly. Will you spank me, daddy?

Protip: Many degree holders that I know fit one or more of those descriptions you mentioned. Here's another one, it's very hard to get quality teachers on 35k EFL salaries. Just how it goes.

Oh, and the bonus? I've had friends who, after a demo lesson, were told by hiring managers "great, but where was the game?". Thai folks get the TEFL teachers they want, don't you worry. It's a losing battle in so many ways isn't it?

[Brit_Doggie]

Originator speaks with no forked tounge, I am in contact with many such as he states say no more except that home country wouldn't even get to the interview stage.

[rucus7]

Just trying to start a kerfuffle . . . . This validates existence for some.

[paulinbkk111]

Sounds like the teacher in question is winning!

[Phatcharanan]

Oh dear...................Mencken has been at the whiskey bottle again.

[lostinisaan]

<snip>You might have an arrest record, perhaps a drunk.<snip>

​ And Interpol already knows where you are. They show up and handcuff you right when you've decided to quit drinking,cheating and stealing. A suitable song comes to mind....

Take me across the water 'cause I need some place to hide

I done the rancher's daughter and I sure did hurt his pride

Haha

Haha...

[lust]

You are aware how a forum works, right? This is not a diary, your posts are public.

Hopefully you will rise to the occasion at work, iron your clothes, and stop spending money on booze.

Remember, you are not fooling anyone.

[biker Bob]

What the f### is he/she smoking???

[Berkshire]

Why would anyone be offended by the OPs post? UNLESS it accurately describes you. But if not, you can't deny that there are many who fits the description that the OP articulated. Just sayin.

[casualbiker]

Why would anyone be offended by the OPs post? UNLESS it accurately describes you. But if not, you can't deny that there are many who fits the description that the OP articulated. Just sayin.

I think possibly because it comes across as a rant.

He derides others without mentioning if he himself is a professional licensed teacher.

And yes there are a fair few, mainly in the type of schools that professional licensed teachers wouldn't work in!

[CiaranO]

Sans degree, you got a job (!) and with that a visa that allows you to stay in Thailand. Not only that but you are making (not earning perhaps) some money. You have a "girlfriend' or spend hours on Line checking out all the hot ladies who will sleep with you - for money. You have a need to constantly validate yourself by sharing tbis with others. You use the school computer to visit dating sites, well done champ.

You are wholly lost in the environment. Clueless how to manage a class. You run the same hackneyed games and tired worksheets that your tefl course had given you. Genius.

You really don't care about the students or your job and it shows. Your clothes are a mess, your breath and clothes might very well smell of cigarettes.

You often run out of money by months end.

You were hired in desperation. The school hoped you'd rise to the occassion but they had no idea that you are here because you are unemployable back home.

The game plan is to do such a poor job the school is afraid to ask you to contribute to activities. Then again, its not a plan.

You might have an arrest record, perhaps a drunk.

You are, not fooling anyone. Just so we are clear.

Hilarious. You must be drunk and jealous lol

[SheungWan]

The sting in the tail is that the clean-living properly qualified and licensed teacher who supposedly knows what they are doing isn't that much better off working in the Thai educational system if they have no long-term career plan.

Edited August 20, 2015 by SheungWan

[Jay1]

I've been found out

[gerryBScot]

There are rather a lot of misconceptions about what makes for a good teacher. I daresay the OP's sketch, uncannily accurate of some teachers in Thailand, hardly points to a dedicated chalky. However we need to be careful about this. It's a bit like football managers. As a general rule great football players hardly make great managers .... Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho etc were hardly star names as footballers but have been something else as football managers and coaches. In the same way there is no connection whatsoever between academic credentials and teaching ability. A well known researcher and academic, Dylan Wiliam, one of the leading lights of the Assessment for Learning approach, points to this in his work: there is no connection between teachers with top degrees from top universities enabling their students to get better academic results in exams. There is something more to being a teacher than qualifications - I would suggest experience and experience of life would come in quite useful as a teacher. So please be alive to the possibility that some of these teachers may actually be very effective as teachers and working with young people.

[nikmar]

look, you have a problem with me then tell me to my face. no need to be telling everyone on a public forum.

[ronthai]

Whatever he is on, I don't want it

[kinmaew]

Very negative comment indeed. While teaching in Thailand is not the most prestigious and things are not that transparent, I thoroughly enjoyed it and put effort into my classes. In fact I brought books over from my country and the school were so happy with them (Due to lack of good English resources I think) they made photocopies of them all. My efforts were appreciated and I got a good reference. It was the best year of my life.

[laislica]

There are rather a lot of misconceptions about what makes for a good teacher. I daresay the OP's sketch, uncannily accurate of some teachers in Thailand, hardly points to a dedicated chalky. However we need to be careful about this. It's a bit like football managers. As a general rule great football players hardly make great managers .... Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho etc were hardly star names as footballers but have been something else as football managers and coaches. In the same way there is no connection whatsoever between academic credentials and teaching ability. A well known researcher and academic, Dylan Wiliam, one of the leading lights of the Assessment for Learning approach, points to this in his work: there is no connection between teachers with top degrees from top universities enabling their students to get better academic results in exams. There is something more to being a teacher than qualifications - I would suggest experience and experience of life would come in quite useful as a teacher. So please be alive to the possibility that some of these teachers may actually be very effective as teachers and working with young people.

Indeed, well said.

I am not a teacher and I was a slow learned.

However, as an apprentice and at about 17 years old, I suddenly took to learning and found it easy!

I went on the get an ONC, HNC plus endorsements, also a City n Giulds and a radio amateurs licence.

It is said that when the student is ready - a teacher will appear.

Sometimes an off the wall approach makes a connection that the formal "within the rules" approach cannot which would be very much to the benefit of the student.

Nature requires variation, let's not knock it too hard!

[akentryan]

You got me on all accounts. But I do know how to spell okkassion. Have another drink my friend.

[SGX]

&lt;deleted&gt;. .I said too much.

[Squeegee]

A simple-minded OP with little real content, like making a topic claiming all Thai girls are prostitutes. It says a huge amount about the poster though, his blinkered views and peevish attitude towards others.

Isn't this the guy who makes a habit of generalizing about teachers in Thailand, with stereotypes and outdated ideas of teaching methodology? Maybe it was someone else, equally as intellectually lazy.

[jadee]

A simple-minded OP with little real content, like making a topic claiming all Thai girls are prostitutes. It says a huge amount about the poster though, his blinkered views and peevish attitude towards others.

Isn't this the guy who makes a habit of generalizing about teachers in Thailand, with stereotypes and outdated ideas of teaching methodology? Maybe it was someone else, equally as intellectually lazy.

I agree, it says a huge amount about the person who wrote the original post. What I found odd was that they seem to have actually adopted a Thai view of what makes a good teacher when it comes to appearance. In Thailand, style and looks are valued above all else and the OP seems to agree.

[12DrinkMore]

Took the red pill this morning, eh?

[mmh8]

meneken, for bleeps sake, you tell people things wen you're drunk and its meant to stay in the land of drunkeness. what the hell do you tell everyone about me for.

I hate you. I am gonna go and cry you bitch

[bazza40]

So the OP evidently doesn't know how to spell or punctuate. And he's lecturing some imaginary teacher on their dissolute habits. Perhaps he should heed the epitaph of his namesake, who enjoined us to " forgive some sinner, and wink your eye at some homely girl".

[Squeegee]

A simple-minded OP with little real content, like making a topic claiming all Thai girls are prostitutes. It says a huge amount about the poster though, his blinkered views and peevish attitude towards others.

Isn't this the guy who makes a habit of generalizing about teachers in Thailand, with stereotypes and outdated ideas of teaching methodology? Maybe it was someone else, equally as intellectually lazy.

I agree, it says a huge amount about the person who wrote the original post. What I found odd was that they seem to have actually adopted a Thai view of what makes a good teacher when it comes to appearance. In Thailand, style and looks are valued above all else and the OP seems to agree.

"What I found odd was that they seem to have actually adopted a Thai view of what makes a good teacher..."

OK, this may well be the other poster I referred to. I don't remember the topic, but it was like a troll post (except almost nobody saw it as that, he was generally responded to as someone deluded). Anyway, it was gross, off-topic Thailand TEFL Teacher Bashing that featured some odd support for archaic teaching methods and - incidentally in common with common or garden Thailand TEFL Teacher Bashers - a seemingly ancient lizard-brained stoicism against reason and enlightenment, including such glittering nuggets as rejecting the experience of others, a fine way to know it all.

[nithisa78]

Sounds like you are doing a little self evaluation. Best you just get out of teaching and stick to being a drunk

Yes. Though my first tought was, what a sad creature.

My heart goes out to them.

spiritually poisoned?....Lord have mercy.

Edited August 21, 2015 by nithisa78

[Friendly Stranger]

Your headline and paragraphs that follow don't say much.

Are you speaking in the third person, about someone in particular or a group in general?

Maybe you should regroup, take time off where ever you're currently at.

Maybe you can see a counsellor or a friend to talk to.

In the meantime, let me get back to teaching and padding my stats with the lovelies. I'll be thinking of you.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Friendly Stranger