23 year old Irishman arrested in Chiang Mai for selling marijuana to police

[DaveinAsia]

DaveinAsia

Here!

All the facts about a DRUG which is illegal to possess/sell in SEA and many other parts of the world

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

The idiot who got caught only has himself to blame for his situation

Those attempting to make excuses for this person would be better advised to bang their heads on the wall.

Seriously? Are you quoting the government and stating them as facts? Nuff said

[DaveinAsia]

Irish trash , if he want to sell drugs do it in Ireland. At least he will get a decent meal in prison there. Now his life will be like hell for a long time.

Says the English trash

Wrong, I'm the Norwegian trash.

All the same to me...

[oncearugge]

DaveinAsia

Here!

All the facts about a DRUG which is illegal to possess/sell in SEA and many other parts of the world

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

The idiot who got caught only has himself to blame for his situation

Those attempting to make excuses for this person would be better advised to bang their heads on the wall.

Seriously? Are you quoting the government and stating them as facts? Nuff said

If you had bothered to read you would have found a list of reliable academic references in that link ---------

Oops!

Forgot

Dope/crack heads do not read

[DaveinAsia]

All I have to say is this guy has to be the dumbest human on earth or the reporting is incorrect.. As stated by many others the price seems way over the top and who in their right mind sells weed online let alone kilos of weed online in Thailand??...

So should we lock the guy up for decades in a jail full of rapists, murderers for being stupid?

[DaveinAsia]

DaveinAsia

Here!

All the facts about a DRUG which is illegal to possess/sell in SEA and many other parts of the world

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

The idiot who got caught only has himself to blame for his situation

Those attempting to make excuses for this person would be better advised to bang their heads on the wall.

Seriously? Are you quoting the government and stating them as facts? Nuff said

If you had bothered to read you would have found a list of reliable academic references in that link ---------

Oops!

Forgot

Dope/crack heads do not read

Says the alcoholic, 555. If you would have read my posts you would have seen that it says that I don't smoke

[jspill]

That does NOT make the Stuff any less illegal in SEA .

Get used to it

I'm aware it's illegal. For the reasons in post #61, not because it should be illegal:

The profits from not only selling, but distribution and onward trafficking are kept within networks of people and funnelled up to very powerful people who hold establishment positions (police, military, politicians) or control senior establishment people.

The reason for the tough sentences is not the drugs and their harm to society but the fact that the competition may harm their profits.

Give it another generation and that might change, when Thailand moves more in line with developed nations. That's what you want isn't it? Your posts in other threads are all for Thailand's visa system to be the same as that of developed countries.

[syke1912]

"A video posted online shows the young man denying all knowledge of the incident and accusing officers of trying to set him up."

Does anyone have the URL to that video?

[phantomfiddler]

Seems rather ridiculous to me, even if the man is guilty, considering that Willie Nelson has a chain of stores legally selling this product Personally I think, as a non user, that the penalties for this substance should not be in the same league as the penalties for drugs such as heroin.

[oncearugge]

Seems rather ridiculous to me, even if the man is guilty, considering that Willie Nelson has a chain of stores legally selling this product Personally I think, as a non user, that the penalties for this substance should not be in the same league as the penalties for drugs such as heroin.

It is not!

The death penalty is available to volunteers who peddle stuff like heroin !

[Suradit69]

If a judge condemned this man to half a century for trying to sell a plant that is legal and whose effects are not proven to be harmful long term, then the judge too would deserve to go inside with him on principle alone.

Also doesn't say much for the justice system when the soonest he can expect a trial date is 2017. Especially now that he is claiming to have been set up. Certainly wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened here.

If he is guilty, give him a rough punishment. But 50 years would be completely abhorrent.

"Especially now that he is claiming to have been set up. Certainly wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened here."

He's claiming to have been set up. Are you really surprised at that? Pretty sure that's the first thing anyone who's caught would claim. Why would the police bother setting up a random foreigner when there's most likely no shortage of idiots who set themselves up. If you think he was set up by someone else using him to sell the stuff, it hardly makes him innocent. He would have to be incredibly stupid or mentally challenged to think he wasn't putting himself at risk.

Haven't flown into Thailand in a number of years, but every time I did in the past before settling here full time, there was an announcement of some sort reminding passengers that possessing/dealing drugs could result in lengthy imprisonment.

"for trying to sell a plant that is legal "

He wasn't allegedly selling petunias. If he or you thought selling marijuana was legal here, that's mind-boggling in and of itself.

Not sure if the 50 year sentence is realistic or just some hyperbole from Irish media that published the story. I doubt they have any Thai legal experts on their editorial staff ... unlike Thai Visa where all & sundry are experts in just about everything.

Use of marijuana in small amounts is punishable by up to 1 year in prison and/or no more than a 10,000 Baht fine. Sentences for possession of marijuana are divided into two categories: less than 10 kg, or up to and more than 10 kg. Possession of less than 10 kg is subject to up to 5 years in prison and/or no more than a 50,000 Baht fine. For possession of amounts of up to or more than 10 kg or trafficking of marijuana, penalties are substantially more serious.

• For possession of 10kg or more, this is considered as possession with intent to sell. The sentence can range from 2 - 15 years in prison, and/or include a fine of 20,000 to 150,000 baht. Charges can also be levied for amounts of 10kg or more for the intent to produce, import or export cannabis. The sentence is the same.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Suradit69

[DaveinAsia]

Seems rather ridiculous to me, even if the man is guilty, considering that Willie Nelson has a chain of stores legally selling this product Personally I think, as a non user, that the penalties for this substance should not be in the same league as the penalties for drugs such as heroin.

It is not!

The death penalty is available to volunteers who peddle stuff like heroin !

Poor oncearugge,

Got no love growing up as a kid. Just wants to kill people

[GAZZPA]

@GAZZPA

Here ya go Mr Lazy. Can't find anything? Who are you working for? Lol. Here are just 3 vids(of 100's if not 1000's) on the advantages of medical marijuana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfVuWbiIvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjsPBfgZ2gY

No use arguing with people who see alcohol as a medicine, lol.....I'm not doing your research for ya. Look it up yourself. If you don't find anything perhaps you should try using a proxy or VPN. Many of these stories are censored these days by Big Pharma/Government, but to be honest you are one of those people who wont even believe the truth if it was staring you right in the face..so whatever. I'm not wasting my time on you. Cheerio

I am not one of these people who doesn't believe the truth when staring me in the face,, you have no idea who i am. If I am shown evidence that it does indeed cure cancer then I will be one of the first to rant about using the drug for this purpose.

What I dont agree with to date is the use socially. No one in their right mind with hinder the use for medical purposes if it cured cancer, it's stupid to suggest otherwise.

So, thank you for sending those links, interesting but to be honest only the words of some individuals. Frankly, I have seen claims of people who have miracle cure for all sorts of things, rarely is it true, in this case I think it is sadly the same.

So, not enough Im afraid, I have seen the website "cureyourowncancer.org,,, but I would still put my faith in doctors first and foremost. And here is the question, in the unfortunate event you were diagnosed with cancer how far does your faith go in healing yourself with marijuana? Or would you go to see a Cancer specialist,, I know my answer..

Anyway, my objection is to the people who endorse canabis and frequently abuse those who do not? I don't fear peer pressure to jump on your bandwagon but i won't hurl abuse at you for your opinion, perhaps a logical, sensible argument would be the best approach for people like you to persuade an open minded person such as myself, not just you are "asleep and should wake up".

[Berkshire]

Seems rather ridiculous to me, even if the man is guilty, considering that Willie Nelson has a chain of stores legally selling this product Personally I think, as a non user, that the penalties for this substance should not be in the same league as the penalties for drugs such as heroin.

Defies logic. This guy would not be selling pot if it were legal, there would be no profit in it. It would be like trying to peddle beer in Thailand. If pot was already legal, he would be selling something else that was illegal, be it heroin or meth or cocaine, because that's where the money would be.

You guys are defending a criminal.

[Maggusoil]

Irish trash , if he want to sell drugs do it in Ireland. At least he will get a decent meal in prison there. Now his life will be like hell for a long time.

Hold on a sec. He maintains innocence. It sounds like you're from a country that presumes innnoncence unless proven of guilt. How come you're so keen to condemn, on a newspaper report?

The police have set plenty of people up here. They do it everywhere.

If guilty I would also describe the trash as more a sad case of idiocy. It is so idiotic, that the presumption of innocence would prevail in a knee jerk judgement.

[Jim walker]

not nearly long enough for a drug pusher better death sentence that way can be sure he wont be pushing again ever

[GAZZPA]

@GAZZPA

Here ya go Mr Lazy. Can't find anything? Who are you working for? Lol. Here are just 3 vids(of 100's if not 1000's) on the advantages of medical marijuana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfVuWbiIvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjsPBfgZ2gY

No use arguing with people who see alcohol as a medicine, lol.....I'm not doing your research for ya. Look it up yourself. If you don't find anything perhaps you should try using a proxy or VPN. Many of these stories are censored these days by Big Pharma/Government, but to be honest you are one of those people who wont even believe the truth if it was staring you right in the face..so whatever. I'm not wasting my time on you. Cheerio

Have done some more digging about canabis use in curing cancer. Looked at credible sources, in this case Cancer Research UK. There are indeed some promising discoveries in the use of some form of the cannabis plant it treating the symptoms of cancer.

So, I give this one to you, it was new to me. However, if you read the link you will see that the social media does tend to "hype" the reality. There is a long way to go before canabis can be called a miracle drug for cancer and in some circumstances it actually makes the cancer growth worse.

So, good news overall and fascinating reading. Lets hope they manage to harness this effect and launch some drug in the future that does as you claim.

Still do not agree with legalising it for social use though, I guess we will have to agree to differ on this point.

So, please read the link, it is insightful,

regards,, "close minded person to not waste your time on"

http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/#can-treat

[optad]

Lucky to be a page left once the mods clean it up.... for sheer relevance.

A note to posters intrathread. There is a 23 year old kid bunged up we know little about. We all have family members who have been errant even if 'TV' posters never have been. Spare a thought.

[harleyclarkey]

Irish trash , if he want to sell drugs do it in Ireland. At least he will get a decent meal in prison there. Now his life will be like hell for a long time.

Geez relax Balo....it's weed not stinking Meth or such!.

Weed....a drug that is legal in many countries now and there will be more. I don't partake but to possibly give a young guy 50 years for weed is not justice.

There are far, far worse things in Thailand that do deserve those 50 years behind bars.

Do we mention the cop killers, the Kho Tao debacle, the Phuket scams, the police corruption, the defunct legal system, etc, etc, etc.

I am not saying he gets off.

No. Take down a stupid young man selling weed. Nice one guys.

[MadMuhummad]

Irish trash , if he want to sell drugs do it in Ireland. At least he will get a decent meal in prison there. Now his life will be like hell for a long time.

Geez relax Balo....it's weed not stinking Meth or such!.

Weed....a drug that is legal in many countries now and there will be more. I don't partake but to possibly give a young guy 50 years for weed is not justice.

There are far, far worse things in Thailand that do deserve those 50 years behind bars.

Do we mention the cop killers, the Kho Tao debacle, the Phuket scams, the police corruption, the defunct legal system, etc, etc, etc.

I am not saying he gets off.

No. Take down a stupid young man selling weed. Nice one guys.

I think we're forgetting the countries that have legalized it have mostly been cannabis oils and the like.

AFAIK it's still illegal to push it in this way in any country in the planet.....

[DaveinAsia]

@GAZZPA

Here ya go Mr Lazy. Can't find anything? Who are you working for? Lol. Here are just 3 vids(of 100's if not 1000's) on the advantages of medical marijuana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfVuWbiIvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjsPBfgZ2gY

No use arguing with people who see alcohol as a medicine, lol.....I'm not doing your research for ya. Look it up yourself. If you don't find anything perhaps you should try using a proxy or VPN. Many of these stories are censored these days by Big Pharma/Government, but to be honest you are one of those people who wont even believe the truth if it was staring you right in the face..so whatever. I'm not wasting my time on you. Cheerio

I am not one of these people who doesn't believe the truth when staring me in the face,, you have no idea who i am. If I am shown evidence that it does indeed cure cancer then I will be one of the first to rant about using the drug for this purpose.

What I dont agree with to date is the use socially. No one in their right mind with hinder the use for medical purposes if it cured cancer, it's stupid to suggest otherwise.

So, thank you for sending those links, interesting but to be honest only the words of some individuals. Frankly, I have seen claims of people who have miracle cure for all sorts of things, rarely is it true, in this case I think it is sadly the same.

So, not enough Im afraid, I have seen the website "cureyourowncancer.org,,, but I would still put my faith in doctors first and foremost. And here is the question, in the unfortunate event you were diagnosed with cancer how far does your faith go in healing yourself with marijuana? Or would you go to see a Cancer specialist,, I know my answer..

Anyway, my objection is to the people who endorse canabis and frequently abuse those who do not? I don't fear peer pressure to jump on your bandwagon but i won't hurl abuse at you for your opinion, perhaps a logical, sensible argument would be the best approach for people like you to persuade an open minded person such as myself, not just you are "asleep and should wake up".

I didn't hurl abuse at you, that's a bit over-sensitive, but after you ridiculed my post and the fact that cannabis cured certain diseases and helped others to contain their pain, etc. I defended myself.

Go back and read those posts again and you will see who started the 'aggression'.

Sensible and logical arguments don't change the world I'm afraid. There are too many brainwashed naysayers who are so convinced of their old world bs.

It's like trying to convince people that the world is a sphere when they still believe the world is flat.

People who say yes to alcohol, that kills millions a year, but no to a herb that never kills, but only relieves, cures and helps is beyond my comprehension.

It's up to you if you'd like to remain ignorant to this information or jump on 'my' bandwagon. I only spread the word and hope people are wise enough to listen because it's pretty obvious governments have been lying to us, so yes, it is time to wake up

[DaveinAsia]

Lucky to be a page left once the mods clean it up.... for sheer relevance.

A note to posters intrathread. There is a 23 year old kid bunged up we know little about. We all have family members who have been errant even if 'TV' posters never have been. Spare a thought.

The though police have spoken. Does that include this totally irrelevant post?

[Nemesis7]

Sad in deed. a 25 years old young man's life will turn upside down. what was he thinking???

[optad]

i hope so dave.

[MadMuhummad]

@GAZZPA

Here ya go Mr Lazy. Can't find anything? Who are you working for? Lol. Here are just 3 vids(of 100's if not 1000's) on the advantages of medical marijuana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjsPBfgZ2gY

No use arguing with people who see alcohol as a medicine, lol.....I'm not doing your research for ya. Look it up yourself. If you don't find anything perhaps you should try using a proxy or VPN. Many of these stories are censored these days by Big Pharma/Government, but to be honest you are one of those people who wont even believe the truth if it was staring you right in the face..so whatever. I'm not wasting my time on you. Cheerio

I am not one of these people who doesn't believe the truth when staring me in the face,, you have no idea who i am. If I am shown evidence that it does indeed cure cancer then I will be one of the first to rant about using the drug for this purpose.

What I dont agree with to date is the use socially. No one in their right mind with hinder the use for medical purposes if it cured cancer, it's stupid to suggest otherwise.

So, thank you for sending those links, interesting but to be honest only the words of some individuals. Frankly, I have seen claims of people who have miracle cure for all sorts of things, rarely is it true, in this case I think it is sadly the same.

So, not enough Im afraid, I have seen the website "cureyourowncancer.org,,, but I would still put my faith in doctors first and foremost. And here is the question, in the unfortunate event you were diagnosed with cancer how far does your faith go in healing yourself with marijuana? Or would you go to see a Cancer specialist,, I know my answer..

Anyway, my objection is to the people who endorse canabis and frequently abuse those who do not? I don't fear peer pressure to jump on your bandwagon but i won't hurl abuse at you for your opinion, perhaps a logical, sensible argument would be the best approach for people like you to persuade an open minded person such as myself, not just you are "asleep and should wake up".

I didn't hurl abuse at you, that's a bit over-sensitive, but after you ridiculed my post and the fact that cannabis cured certain diseases and helped others to contain their pain, etc. I defended myself.

Go back and read those posts again and you will see who started the 'aggression'.

Sensible and logical arguments don't change the world I'm afraid. There are too many brainwashed naysayers who are so convinced of their old world bs.

It's like trying to convince people that the world is a sphere when they still believe the world is flat.

People who say yes to alcohol, that kills millions a year, but no to a herb that never kills, but only relieves, cures and helps is beyond my comprehension.

It's up to you if you'd like to remain ignorant to this information or jump on 'my' bandwagon. I only spread the word and hope people are wise enough to listen because it's pretty obvious governments have been lying to us, so yes, it is time to wake up

Flawed argument. Alcohol only kills through abuse, like absolutely anything.

[jspill]

Flawed argument. Alcohol only kills through abuse, like absolutely anything.

Much easier to overdose on alcohol though isn't it. It's one of our leading killers, the fourth biggest after things like heart disease, cancer (cannabis can help with that), smoking (smoke cannabis instead, problem solved) and physical inactivity. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/07/alcohol-remains-a-leading-killer/

One would have to consume 1,500 pounds of marijuana in 15 minutes to overdose. Similarly hard to overdose on water and die from that... although technically it is possible.

[toooa]

Such irrationality here is just more proof of what a third world Banana Land this country is. Sure, on the outside, not too bad in many ways, but being a developed nation is about more than having shopping malls, a skytrain and passable internet. Being a developed nation entails some degree of rationality, a notion of fairness, and some of the philosophical wonders handed down from thousands of years of culture going back to the Ancient Greece and beyond. Things like habeus corpus and the magna carta, respect for the rights of the individual. These are hard one and cannot be bought cheaply. This is what makes a developed country. Watching them all strut about stuffed with their own importance is pitiful. I feel for the sane and decent Thai people here who must endure it.

[toooa]

Just a quick question for all the hard line prohibitionists...do you guys spit or swallow?

[DaveinAsia]

@GAZZPA

Here ya go Mr Lazy. Can't find anything? Who are you working for? Lol. Here are just 3 vids(of 100's if not 1000's) on the advantages of medical marijuana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfVuWbiIvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjsPBfgZ2gY

No use arguing with people who see alcohol as a medicine, lol.....I'm not doing your research for ya. Look it up yourself. If you don't find anything perhaps you should try using a proxy or VPN. Many of these stories are censored these days by Big Pharma/Government, but to be honest you are one of those people who wont even believe the truth if it was staring you right in the face..so whatever. I'm not wasting my time on you. Cheerio

Have done some more digging about canabis use in curing cancer. Looked at credible sources, in this case Cancer Research UK. There are indeed some promising discoveries in the use of some form of the cannabis plant it treating the symptoms of cancer.

So, I give this one to you, it was new to me. However, if you read the link you will see that the social media does tend to "hype" the reality. There is a long way to go before canabis can be called a miracle drug for cancer and in some circumstances it actually makes the cancer growth worse.

So, good news overall and fascinating reading. Lets hope they manage to harness this effect and launch some drug in the future that does as you claim.

Still do not agree with legalising it for social use though, I guess we will have to agree to differ on this point.

So, please read the link, it is insightful,

regards,, "close minded person to not waste your time on"

http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/#can-treat

Interesting. Thanks. Sorry, I wouldn't call any cancer research institute a credible source. They are usually funded by Big Pharma not to find a cure. The cancer industry is worth billions and billions of pounds/dollars a year. Chemo, radiation, other medication. There have been other worthy cures totally ignored by cancer institutions for that very reason.

https://youtu.be/AazObF_pHSU

[wotaplonker]

surely the guy should have tried selling it in Pattaya, at least there he would have had a far greater selection of gogo's and bars and massage parlours to enjoy

[harleyclarkey]

Too many get into a beef on the legalisation of Marijuana for medical purposes.

We forget that opium ...Morphine....has long being essential for the treatment of pain relief and no fuss generated. Can we seriously do without this today?

I reckon the future will show benefits to be had from Marijuana as they is compelling evidence that it does help certain patients with their conditions.

If so who are we to deny them this relief?