webfact Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 New-born pups left to die on motorway roadsideBy Coconuts BangkokBANGKOK: -- Six tiny puppies were found dead on the roadside of a Bangkok motorway Saturday afternoon.The photo was snapped on the outbound motorway by a Twitter user showing the pups scattered on the roadside, as if they were thrown out of a moving vehicle.What sort of heartless idiot would do such a terrible thing?A few hours after the photo went viral, a noble citizen, Kanokwan Khiensuwan, went to rescue the tiny creatures, but it was too late.Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2015/10/26/new-born-pups-left-die-motorway-roadside-- Coconuts Bangkok 2015-10-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is it possible the mother gave birth to them in the night along the roadway? Or do we have enough information to start the Thai bashing in earnest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 "One outraged netizen said if the dogs owner has children that they should be left to die on the roadside." Wow...I wonder if the irony of that statement was lost on the speaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetongue Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 These poor pups don't look particularly new-born to me. Couldn't give them away couldn't cope with them. This happens all over the world no need for Thai bashing. Some people have poor coping skills for lifes issues and that is that. Why the method of disposal has to be so public and so inhuman I can't answer Get your dogs desexed it only costs abt 1k, don't rely on the popular method here of using human contraceptives randomly over a few years to make the dog sterile, if it eats well it will become fertile again. I speak from experience but mine are all still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbug Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 it happened in thailand that is the reason for anger by people and bashing the idiotic murdering owner who did this no need to patronise and say people cannot be angry or bash people of this country who feel its ok to throw young dog pups out of a vehicle on a motorway knowing they will die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 It doesn't what nationality the person is They are lower than low to do this I think if found and that's wishful thinking, a few months spent in prison may be in order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is it possible the mother gave birth to them in the night along the roadway? Or do we have enough information to start the Thai bashing in earnest ? Spread around like that? Not likely. One wonders why the Twitter poster didn't stop instead of simply taking the picture. And why the mention of Thai bashing? We're talking animal cruelty, Thai or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman2543 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Is it possible the mother gave birth to them in the night along the roadway? Or do we have enough information to start the Thai bashing in earnest ? The mother would stay with the puppies, so one can assume that they were left to die. If the people who did this are Thai or foreign remains unknown. Edited October 26, 2015 by hanuman2543 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is it possible the mother gave birth to them in the night along the roadway? Or do we have enough information to start the Thai bashing in earnest ? The mother would stay with the puppies, so one can assume that they were left to die. If the people who did this are Thai or foreign remains unknown. Not if she was run over...y'know this being a highway and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springheeled jack Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 whoever did this is certainly not an animal lover a callous act by a callous person . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) A Thai would never do this according to the Thai apologists...this is obviously the work of an old fat farang who is trying to damage the pristine image of Thais...for shame you old bugger... Edited October 26, 2015 by ggt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Same all over the world every dog I have ever had has been a rescued dog. At least there not on the menu in thailand unlike certain other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbear Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is it possible the mother gave birth to them in the night along the roadway? Or do we have enough information to start the Thai bashing in earnest ? No, it is not. Dogs know where to give birth. No, we dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Bustards. Edited October 26, 2015 by cyberfarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Is it possible the mother gave birth to them in the night along the roadway? Or do we have enough information to start the Thai bashing in earnest ? No, it is not. Dogs know where to give birth. No, we dont Your first statement is absurd and suggests you don't know a darned thing about dogs or animals. I was farm raised with over 7 decades of animal husbandry and sometimes animals drop a litter or a calf at some pretty inopportune times and so e pretty unfortunate places. It all depends on circumstance. And please keep us posted on the second. 7 decades and you think those are new born pups ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 "What sort of heartless idiot would do such a terrible thing?" The same sort of heartless idiot that would let them breed indiscriminately and the same sort of idiot who claims they love their dog yet leaves it to wander the streets untethered..........I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 "What sort of heartless idiot would do such a terrible thing?" The same sort of heartless idiot that would let them breed indiscriminately and the same sort of idiot who claims they love their dog yet leaves it to wander the streets untethered..........I guess oh be fair... letting them wander the streets and breeding indiscriminately is a carefully considered tenet of Thai Buddhist beliefs. How could a responsible Thai do it any other way? But killing them? No Thai..blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 "What sort of heartless idiot would do such a terrible thing?" The same sort of heartless idiot that would let them breed indiscriminately and the same sort of idiot who claims they love their dog yet leaves it to wander the streets untethered..........I guess oh be fair... letting them wander the streets and breeding indiscriminately is a carefully considered tenet of Thai Buddhist beliefs. How could a responsible Thai do it any other way? But killing them? No Thai..blah blah blah I don't know that much about Thai Buddhist beliefs but it sounds like it is teaching dogs over humans. In my experience here dogs are left to wander the streets so that they can do their 'business' away from the owners house, often in front of somebody elses house, where the dog owner won't clean up. It also allows many of these free to roam pets to attack people, chase motor vehicles, often causing accidents, and other nuisances to the human population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh2121 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Is it possible the mother gave birth to them in the night along the roadway? Or do we have enough information to start the Thai bashing in earnest ? I don't think you know a lot about motherhood in the animal kingdom. In the case of your first question, the mother would not have abandoned her newborns. This is a despicable act by person(s) who do not deserve to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 feral dogs are as unpredicatable as are any other wild undomesticated wild animal. The small dogs are dead, fact, that is known. Most of the posts are guess work, attempts to talk bad about a unknown which resulted in the death , placement of bodies, etc. You cannot reverse the outcome or what lead to it, no matter how you feel and if a person was involved, i doubt they really give a dang about feeling of disgust, outrage, etc. chase a good cause before it happens not the result of what cannot be corrected/changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) "What sort of heartless idiot would do such a terrible thing?" The same sort of heartless idiot that would let them breed indiscriminately and the same sort of idiot who claims they love their dog yet leaves it to wander the streets untethered..........I guess oh be fair... letting them wander the streets and breeding indiscriminately is a carefully considered tenet of Thai Buddhist beliefs. How could a responsible Thai do it any other way? But killing them? No Thai..blah blah blah Bit of an Oxymoron...."responsible Thai" Edited October 27, 2015 by kannot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiniyow Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not to much worse then tossing them out on Temple grounds where they Slowly die from starvation and disease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutty Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Amazing more replies for dogs than when people died in bomb blasts says something about the human mentality eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I was to the Philippines, and seen a cage full of dogs, from pups to adults. Silly me, as I found out that they were, the catch of the day, and would be eaten as an evening meal. I have also seen stray dogs in the Hua Hin area, almost every year that I have visited, and it seems that some dogs, are strays, as well as their pups, as it is hard, and unpopular to be the person who, tries to control the dog population anywhere in the world. Too bad that the dog owner, did not just dispose of the pups in a remote area, and not along a major road way. Sad to see the picture of these dead puppies, but I have seen worse pictures of dead people. I guess life goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Disruptive posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autanic Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 This happens in every Country in the World and much much worse. I do not think anyone here is "Thai Bashing", they are rightly pointing out that who ever did this has mental problems. I really do not think their nationality plays much part if any, so lets drop the patronisation. The fact is, in Thailand as with every other Country, but in Thailand there are too may dogs, so many you cannot give them away. Faced with the prospect of feeding several animals which will breed themselves within 2 years the owner has felt he needed to get rid of the puppies by any means necessary. Obviously in hindsight he would have taken step to prevent this from ever happening, but the reality is the reality. He/she cannot give them away, he cannot sell them and he cannot keep them. What would you do faced with this situation ? I am not by the way an apologist for their actions, but simply saying " I would never have been in this situation to start off with....". Wont do ! So he is the challenge, what would you do ? For my answer first here, lets go. I would have taken all the puppies to the vet and had them put down and while at got the bitch neutered. Whats done is done, but you cannot allow uncontrolled breeding and giving them away or selling them isnt an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ClutchClark Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) This happens in every Country in the World and much much worse. I do not think anyone here is "Thai Bashing", they are rightly pointing out that who ever did this has mental problems. I really do not think their nationality plays much part if any, so lets drop the patronisation. The fact is, in Thailand as with every other Country, but in Thailand there are too may dogs, so many you cannot give them away. Faced with the prospect of feeding several animals which will breed themselves within 2 years the owner has felt he needed to get rid of the puppies by any means necessary. Obviously in hindsight he would have taken step to prevent this from ever happening, but the reality is the reality. He/she cannot give them away, he cannot sell them and he cannot keep them. What would you do faced with this situation ? I am not by the way an apologist for their actions, but simply saying " I would never have been in this situation to start off with....". Wont do ! So he is the challenge, what would you do ? For my answer first here, lets go. I would have taken all the puppies to the vet and had them put down and while at got the bitch neutered. Whats done is done, but you cannot allow uncontrolled breeding and giving them away or selling them isnt an option. To be honest, in hindsight I am not convinced this pet owner would have done snything different and chances are his bitch still is not spayed today. There is a cultural belief system in place here that is quite against spay/neuter programs. I have been closely involved in one for over 5 years in Thailand, its the reason I first came here. I am also involved with one in Centrsl America and two in the US and we had a mobile clinic in aindia for five years to cut down on the incidence of rabies in children.0. I can tell you from exoerience that it has been very difficult to change the mindset of the Thai person and make them see the positives of the program. They have as much right to their cultural practices as a Westerner has to theirs. Basically, the only reason there is any success with the program at all is because it is free. If it cost 100 Baht then the choice would most often be made to let the bitch keep dropping litters and keep the cycle going. This is not a uniquely Thai issue but there are certain things about the Thai beliefs that make the view unique from a similar practice in Latin America for example. Somewhat steeped in their Buddhist beliefs but I am not an expert on Buddhism or Thailand. Basically there is a belief that removal of these organs weakens the animal. What would be interesting to me is what are the posters on this thread going to do? I know two of you personally and zi know your commitment and sacrifice to soi dogs but what about the rest of you? Is this enough for you to get involved with either your time or contributions? A Google search will provide you the websites and contact info for various orgsnizations in Thailand. They are all legitimate. Edited October 29, 2015 by ClutchClark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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