rooster59 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 French drug trial disaster: one man brain dead, five in hospital One person is brain dead and five others are in a serious condition in France after a clinical trial went terribly wrong, the French health minister said on Friday (Jan. 15).The drug was developed by a Portuguese company, Bial, and was being tested in humans for the first time. The trial took place at a private facility near the western city of Rennes.Health Minister Marisol Touraine said the drug was designed to treat mood disorders, and did not contain any cannabis as media initially reported. She said the drug was meant to act on the body’s endocannabinoid system, which deals with pain and is also responsible for the human response to cannabis.“The families are devastated. We will do everything we can to shed light on what happened,” Touraine told reporters.The minister said the trial disaster was unprecedented in France, but urged caution as investigations get underway.Volunteers called for checkupsThe six volunteers who ended up in hospital are all men, aged between 28 and 49, and were the ones who had been given the highest dose of the drug, she said.The trial has now been suspended, and all of the 90 people who took part in it are being called in for medical checkups.Both the drugmaker Bial and the research company that carried out the study, Biotrial said they were in full compliance with international guidelines and regulations. -- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-01-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Such are the risks of drug testing, if everything else has been done in compliance with standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzachang Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wow! France was the world leader in protecting animals in cosmetics industry! Now I understand why animals were and still are used in testing unknown chemicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 ...they initially tried to pretend cannabis had something to do with it..... ...shameful...... ...scare people off of natural foods, herbs and remedies..... ...sell them artificial concoctions that cost them a fortune...and their lives...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 one Disrespectful Post Hidden. Forum Rule - 1) You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, Thai people or any other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Drug companies trying to make synthetic marijuana so they can patent it and overcharge for it. The real thing works, is safe but doesn't make drug companies a ton of cash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loeilad Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) ...they initially tried to pretend cannabis had something to do with it..... ...shameful...... ...scare people off of natural foods, herbs and remedies..... ...sell them artificial concoctions that cost them a fortune...and their lives...... I believe the drug under trial was designed to act on the body's endo-cannabinoid system. Edited January 16, 2016 by Loeilad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky11 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The absolute hilarious bit of this article is their strong denial of their 'disaster' drug containing cannabis. The cannabis would work better alone than this drug ever would at treating mood disorders!! Medical cannabis is wonderful at relieving pain and can also help in alleviating the symptoms of numerous other ailments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Oh Yes ,Why would anyone want to participate in a drug test with an OUT OF COUNTRY medical company that has a questionable reputation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wow! France was the world leader in protecting animals in cosmetics industry! Now I understand why animals were and still are used in testing unknown chemicals. These drugs would have already gone through animal testing... it's no guarantee of safety in humans (though better than going straight to human subjects). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Money Bags Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/09/28/gcmaf-and-an-unscrupulous-quack-profiled-by-the-bbc/ There is a never-ending supply of snake oil merchants in this internet world...... You're Welcome!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Both the drugmaker Bial and the research company that carried out the study, Biotrial said they were in full compliance with international guidelines and regulations. ...and so now they can sleep like babies...they have done nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Many moons ago I was traveling with a group of backpackers and often times were tough so finding short periods of work was a big part of the culture and quite often several would disappear to do drug trials but I never could, not to say I never dabbled in them but I knew what they where but being used as a guinea pig freaked me out even if the money was good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 ...they initially tried to pretend cannabis had something to do with it..... ...shameful...... ...scare people off of natural foods, herbs and remedies..... ...sell them artificial concoctions that cost them a fortune...and their lives...... What about tobacco, it´s also a natural but the biggest killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Numerous off-topic posts and replies removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 "luck11" Please Google Steve Jobs greatest regret. You can do/say whatever you want, we shall agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wow! France was the world leader in protecting animals in cosmetics industry! Now I understand why animals were and still are used in testing unknown chemicals. Wow! France was the world leader in protecting animals in cosmetics industry! Probably why they chose to use human subjects instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 All pharmaceutical drugs are toxic, it just varies in how much and how long till the side effects kick in. Which is why they are ok for acute or short term use, long term use is not a good idea, however that is where the big profits lie. Also the FDA just takes the companies word that drugs (and GMs) are safe, they don't test things themselves. Manufacturers and regulators have a too cosy a relationship. This is one that went bad in a first world country where the story will actually come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Seems a bit odd to have 90 people participating in a clinical trial where dosage has not yet been determined. Usually dosage is worked out in Phase I trials with only a few participants who are under close watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 All pharmaceutical drugs are toxic, it just varies in how much and how long till the side effects kick in. Which is why they are ok for acute or short term use, long term use is not a good idea, however that is where the big profits lie. Also the FDA just takes the companies word that drugs (and GMs) are safe, they don't test things themselves. Manufacturers and regulators have a too cosy a relationship. This is one that went bad in a first world country where the story will actually come out. There is no indication that the FDA was involved in this drug trial. Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Many moons ago I was traveling with a group of backpackers and often times were tough so finding short periods of work was a big part of the culture and quite often several would disappear to do drug trials but I never could, not to say I never dabbled in them but I knew what they where but being used as a guinea pig freaked me out even if the money was good Stick to sperm donor banks.... Much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Drug companies trying to make synthetic marijuana so they can patent it and overcharge for it. The real thing works, is safe but doesn't make drug companies a ton of cash... Some people trying to say cannabis is OK, I have seen too many "brain dead" drug abusers, and cannabis is not OK... Edited January 16, 2016 by Basil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Drug companies trying to make synthetic marijuana so they can patent it and overcharge for it. The real thing works, is safe but doesn't make drug companies a ton of cash... Some people trying to say cannabis is OK, I have seen too many "brain dead" drug abusers, and cannabis is not OK... You've not seen anyone brain dead from cannabis use. And I'm not talking about having a bong every 5 minutes. I'm talking about medical use of marijuana. I had a friend who used to shake uncontrollably with MS and his mother had to go out and buy weed illegally as it was the only thing that stopped the shakes. He wasn't getting horizontally stoned, he was having enough to make life livable. I think he had that right as a fellow human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeklong Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Wow! France was the world leader in protecting animals in cosmetics industry! Now I understand why animals were and still are used in testing unknown chemicals. These drugs would have already gone through animal testing... it's no guarantee of safety in humans (though better than going straight to human subjects). An article on Deutsche Welle said the drug had been tested earlier on chimpanzees, the closest primates to Humans. Presumably nothing unusual was seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Drug companies trying to make synthetic marijuana so they can patent it and overcharge for it. The real thing works, is safe but doesn't make drug companies a ton of cash... Some people trying to say cannabis is OK, I have seen too many "brain dead" drug abusers, and cannabis is not OK... No recreational drugs are good for you. Some are worse than others. In 20+ years in AA, I have met thousands of people whose lives would have been better had they been legally allowed to choose weed over booze. Not to say weed is good for you, but the legal alternative is much worse. Edited January 16, 2016 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Drug companies trying to make synthetic marijuana so they can patent it and overcharge for it. The real thing works, is safe but doesn't make drug companies a ton of cash... Some people trying to say cannabis is OK, I have seen too many "brain dead" drug abusers, and cannabis is not OK... That's so classic! Thanks for the laugh! I needed that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgesAbitbol Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The drug was designed to target the same receptors but there is no Cannabis or THC involved in this trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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