rooster59 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 One of world’s biggest container ships stranded on German riverCrews are attempting to pump hundreds of cubic metres of heavy fuel oil from one of the world’s biggest container ships.The CSCL Indian Ocean is stranded on the Elbe River in Germany after running aground while approaching the port of Hamburg.A further attempt to refloat the vessel will only be made once the necessary fuel is removed, German authorities say. The Central Command for Maritime Emergencies said this may not occur until the morning of February 9. -- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-01-06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Woops ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Where was the pilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Where was the pilot? The Captain of the ship is totally responsible for what happens to the ship. The Pilot is merely an expensive adviser and Navigator who takes no responsibility for the safety of the vessel whatsoever. When the Pilot boards the vessel the Captain hands over the 'Navigation' of the vessel to the Pilot.....but he does so at his own risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Somalian pirates will be having a field day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Anchor it in position, empty the containers. I could think of a great use for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humqdpf Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Somalian pirates will be having a field day. Something must have happened while I slept. Somalian pirates on the river Elbe in Germany??!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Somalian pirates will be having a field day. Something must have happened while I slept. Somalian pirates on the river Elbe in Germany??!!!! They came with the "refugees" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Clearly the dams built by the water management committee in LoS has deprived the German river of water and has lowered the mean depth causing the CSL vessel to run aground on a sand bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 some are suspecting the containers are full of refugees.....and nobody wants them....but this is only gossip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 .......as in......'run aground'.....???? ....wow...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradoc1972 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Where was the pilot? The Captain of the ship is totally responsible for what happens to the ship. The Pilot is merely an expensive adviser and Navigator who takes no responsibility for the safety of the vessel whatsoever. When the Pilot boards the vessel the Captain hands over the 'Navigation' of the vessel to the Pilot.....but he does so at his own risk. Correct. And what happened here was they got themselves a pilot, someone who had been captaining his own ship for at least 2 years, been studying river Elbe for some 8 month, and had at least 5 years of experience as a pilot as things are run in Hamburg for that big a ship, but the rudder seems to have jammed. So the pilot had the captain run the thing aground in the northern part of the river where it will be no obstacle to shipping lanes in a controlled manner. Can't just stop a 160.000 behemoth, it will run for kilometers. They "parked it on the side-lane", so to speak". They are trying to wash out the silt underneath it with a specialized vessel, the only word in English I could dig up is "hydraulic erosion dredger", that's quite a mouthful. Should be OK within the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissbie Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Anchor it in position, empty the containers. I could think of a great use for it. Unload the containers in the middle of the river? Have you seen to much Lego-movies? A very difficult if not impossible task. They are waiting for hight tide next Tuesday and emptying the tanks. Should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissbie Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Anchor it in position, empty the containers. I could think of a great use for it. Unload the containers in the middle of the river? Have you seen to much Lego-movies? A very difficult if not impossible task. They are waiting for hight tide next Tuesday and emptying the tanks. Should work. high tide, sorry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) At least the spring tide and wind should work together. Edited February 6, 2016 by Richard W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineofentry Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 This would never have happened if the British were in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 swissbie, on 06 Feb 2016 - 18:21, said: SgtRock, on 06 Feb 2016 - 14:33, said: Anchor it in position, empty the containers. I could think of a great use for it. Unload the containers in the middle of the river? Have you seen to much Lego-movies? A very difficult if not impossible task. They are waiting for hight tide next Tuesday and emptying the tanks. Should work. I said empty not unload. Would make great accommodation for a load of people that are currently in Germany looking for a place to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ableguy Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Anchor it in position, empty the containers. I could think of a great use for it. Unload the containers in the middle of the river? Have you seen to much Lego-movies? A very difficult if not impossible task. They are waiting for hight tide next Tuesday and emptying the tanks. Should work. high tide, sorry.. What has washing powder got to do with anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Where was the pilot? The Captain of the ship is totally responsible for what happens to the ship. The Pilot is merely an expensive adviser and Navigator who takes no responsibility for the safety of the vessel whatsoever. When the Pilot boards the vessel the Captain hands over the 'Navigation' of the vessel to the Pilot.....but he does so at his own risk. Correct. And what happened here was they got themselves a pilot, someone who had been captaining his own ship for at least 2 years, been studying river Elbe for some 8 month, and had at least 5 years of experience as a pilot as things are run in Hamburg for that big a ship, but the rudder seems to have jammed. So the pilot had the captain run the thing aground in the northern part of the river where it will be no obstacle to shipping lanes in a controlled manner. Can't just stop a 160.000 behemoth, it will run for kilometers. They "parked it on the side-lane", so to speak". They are trying to wash out the silt underneath it with a specialized vessel, the only word in English I could dig up is "hydraulic erosion dredger", that's quite a mouthful. Should be OK within the week. In that case It sounds like the Pilot did an incredible job and must have kahuunna's the size of Jupiter. Most mere mortals would have backed away from such a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddumber Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) it obvious it was global warming what done it. Edited February 6, 2016 by Buddumber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradoc1972 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Correct. And what happened here was they got themselves a pilot, someone who had been captaining his own ship for at least 2 years, been studying river Elbe for some 8 months, and had at least 5 years of experience as a pilot as things are run in Hamburg for that big a ship, but the rudder seems to have jammed. So the pilot had the captain run the thing aground in the northern part of the river where it will be no obstacle to shipping lanes in a controlled manner. Can't just stop a 160.000 ton behemoth, it will run for kilometers. They "parked it on the side-lane", so to speak". They are trying to wash out the silt underneath it with a specialized vessel, the only word in English I could dig up is "hydraulic erosion dredger", that's quite a mouthful. Should be OK within the week. In that case It sounds like the Pilot did an incredible job and must have kahuunna's the size of Jupiter. Most mere mortals would have backed away from such a decision. Apparently one of many standard procedures. Hamburg is an old Hanse-city, they've been doing things literally for centuries. But a job well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 This would never have happened if the British were in charge. Only a brit would come out with that... http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/23/navy-submarine-aground-errors-inquiry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copa8 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 This would never have happened if the British were in charge. Only a brit would come out with that... http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/23/navy-submarine-aground-errors-inquiry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi080 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 This would never have happened if the British were in charge.Only a brit would come out with that...http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/23/navy-submarine-aground-errors-inquiry Hahaha, Bravo !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Where was the pilot? The Captain of the ship is totally responsible for what happens to the ship. The Pilot is merely an expensive adviser and Navigator who takes no responsibility for the safety of the vessel whatsoever. When the Pilot boards the vessel the Captain hands over the 'Navigation' of the vessel to the Pilot.....but he does so at his own risk. Correct. And what happened here was they got themselves a pilot, someone who had been captaining his own ship for at least 2 years, been studying river Elbe for some 8 month, and had at least 5 years of experience as a pilot as things are run in Hamburg for that big a ship, but the rudder seems to have jammed. So the pilot had the captain run the thing aground in the northern part of the river where it will be no obstacle to shipping lanes in a controlled manner. Can't just stop a 160.000 behemoth, it will run for kilometers. They "parked it on the side-lane", so to speak". They are trying to wash out the silt underneath it with a specialized vessel, the only word in English I could dig up is "hydraulic erosion dredger", that's quite a mouthful. Should be OK within the week. Thanks for that info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradoc1972 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 And they did it. Shifted some 45.000 cubic meters of silt, waited till the tide during the new moon when the Elbe was 1,20 m higher, and that was that. Will probably have a good look at her keel while she is being unloaded and reloaded, but she is free to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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