webfact Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 173rd place: Bangkok ranks near bottom of 'safe city' list for expatsBy Coconuts BangkokA tuk tuk on Yaowarat road. Photo: Zanyasan Tanantpapat/ Coconuts MediaBANGKOK: -- In a new survey by consulting company Mercer, political unrest has sent Bangkok close to the bottom of rankings measuring personal safety of expats.Out of 230 cities across the globe, Bangkok shamefully ranks 173rd when it comes to personal safety for expats, according to the Quality of Living Rankings by Mercer, which was released Tuesday.“Following considerable political unrest and terrorist attacks in several tourist areas over the last few years, Bangkok ranked 173rd for personal safety,” said the report.Mercer highlights safety as it is a key factor that multinational companies consider when sending expatriate workers abroad. Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/02/25/173rd-place-bangkok-ranks-near-bottom-safe-city-list-expats -- Coconuts Bangkok 2016-02-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJazz Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! Couldn't agree more. A friend from Brazil was visiting a while ago. He was comparing Thailand with his home country and was amazed how he could feel safe anywhere in Bangkok, even in the most impoverished of the city. An other friend from Texas too told me once how he feel safe here, he even added : here you don't get shot at for a pair of shoes (??). To finish, I've been an expat in Asia for more than 20 years. I've personally known two person who were killed in two separate criminal incidents in the Philippine and an other couple of people who were killed in traffic accident in China. Regarding Thailand it seems the principal cause of death here is old age ... Edited February 25, 2016 by JohnnyJazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomSand Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Regarding Thailand it seems the principal cause of death here is old age ... and high rise buildings with balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! Couldn't agree more. A friend from Brazil was visiting a while ago. He was comparing Thailand with his home country and was amazed how he could feel safe anywhere in Bangkok, even in the most impoverished of the city. An other friend from Texas too told me once how he feel safe here, he even added : here you don't get shot at for a pair of shoes (??). To finish, I've been an expat in Asia for more than 20 years. I've personally known two person who were killed in two separate criminal incidents in the Philippine and an other couple of people who were killed in traffic accident in China. Regarding Thailand it seems the principal cause of death here is old age ... Actually, for foreigners, suicide and murder are the principle cause of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) the roads aside, bangkok is a surprisingly safe city to live in Edited February 25, 2016 by samsensam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I have lived in BKK for 5 happy years.The only time I felt unsafe, looked over my shoulder, in those 5 years .. was a one week trip ... to ... America.This report is pure rubbish and like all "click bait" postings that claim a "finding" ... they do not furnish the criteria for the results.FILED UNDER: Lies, damn lies ... and statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlehead Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Been to 48 countries. Bangkok is the city I feel safest in. My brother's friend was shot (and killed) in Sao Paulo I was attacked by gypsy kids in Budapest Car broken into in Philadelphia (I don't even lock it in Bangkok) Maybe I've just been lucky (don't think so) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmonman Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Vancouver is a Western European city? Gee, I thought it was Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnikaIII Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 We have endless speculations about this and that happening because the police didn't receive enough 'lunch money' .... the proverbial 'brown envelope' scenario etc. Now I wonder what it was that Mercer didn't receive, .. for them to come up with this bullsh*t report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! Couldn't agree more. A friend from Brazil was visiting a while ago. He was comparing Thailand with his home country and was amazed how he could feel safe anywhere in Bangkok, even in the most impoverished of the city. An other friend from Texas too told me once how he feel safe here, he even added : here you don't get shot at for a pair of shoes (??). To finish, I've been an expat in Asia for more than 20 years. I've personally known two person who were killed in two separate criminal incidents in the Philippine and an other couple of people who were killed in traffic accident in China. Regarding Thailand it seems the principal cause of death here is old age ... With traffic accidents coming second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! Couldn't agree more. A friend from Brazil was visiting a while ago. He was comparing Thailand with his home country and was amazed how he could feel safe anywhere in Bangkok, even in the most impoverished of the city. An other friend from Texas too told me once how he feel safe here, he even added : here you don't get shot at for a pair of shoes (??). To finish, I've been an expat in Asia for more than 20 years. I've personally known two person who were killed in two separate criminal incidents in the Philippine and an other couple of people who were killed in traffic accident in China. Regarding Thailand it seems the principal cause of death here is old age ... My cousin works in Brazil. He lives in a gated and guarded community. His wife can not drive on her own, has to have a driver/guard. Same with him. His car is bullet proof. His driver highly trained and armed. He's had one attempted abduction. Thailand is massively safer than Brazil. My friend in Rio has bullet proof glass in her condo due to the bullets that fly around at night. Crime is a massive problem. Even on the famous beaches, you have to be really, really careful. Mercer is a highly respected organization. Their reports are very good. And used by multinational corporations when setting salaries, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 the roads aside, bangkok is a surprisingly safe city to live in RIght. I've lived here 25 years and never had a problem. It's safer to walk the streets here late at night than in any British or Australian city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ridiculous. But goes to show how afraid some Westerners are of terrorist attacks. They'd rather live in a city where one could be kidnapped, shot by gangs, or raped than in Bangkok because there was a bomb here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Regarding Thailand it seems the principal cause of death here is old age ... and high rise buildings with balconies. and traveling in vans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 That's almost impossible.....aeehh wait..somebody pushes me over the balcony....I fly................wushh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 What political unrest do they speak of? I've never know it to be so stable Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabula Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Nonsense....just because it's published doesn't not mean it's true. Having traveled to over 50 countries both as a civilian and in the military, I lived in Thailand for 9 years, Vietnam for 1 year, San Jose, Costa Rica for 11 years, U.S. for 35 years and Czech Republic for a year. I'm hear to tell you Thailand is safer currently than all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Vancouver is a Western European city? Gee, I thought it was Chinese. I think they mean "White" (which should, of course, rule out Hongcouver). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Absolute rubbish ! This is the safest place I have ever lived, and as long as you pay your bills and not go around insulting people the chances of a situation are incredibly rare. In Oakland California 11 people were murdered within 100 yards of my apartment in the last 2 months I was there !! The only real danger here is found in the driving, and alas I have lost count of friends and acquaintances who have been killed due to the incredibly poor standard shown by many motorists in the country. Sounds to me like the survey is politically motivated, and the survey company ceases to have any credibility for me. Edited February 26, 2016 by phantomfiddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherpaul Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong Agreed. I have never been attacked or threatened in Bangkok. However, if they were to change Bangkok to Pattay, Phuket or Koh Tao, 173rd would probably be too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 We are talking about Mercer, the largest American corporation that you have never heard of that is probably mucking up your life. What this probably means is that Bangkok has a large percentage of its urban area that resides outside the international bubbles of 5 star hotels, restaurants, and Starbucks. After signing their 30 page non-disclosure agreements, most Mercer employees fear their own shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I concur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 At first I was going to post BKK should be last, but After seeing the bottom four, I guess BKK is ranked Properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! "when not one South American country is on that list" - looks to me like you haven't bothered to read the report.... "In South America, Montevideo (78), Buenos Aires (93), and Santiago (94) remain the highest ranking cities for quality of living, whereas Bogota (130), La Paz (156), and Caracas (185) rank lowest." - Mercer 2016 i think if you are going to criticise constructively (rather than just personal presuppositions) you should take the time to get better informed about what you are criticising. Edited February 26, 2016 by cumgranosalum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! Neither would Coconuts. Total Rubbish, I lived in Bangkok for over a decade getting up to all sorts of wild things and never got into any trouble. Manila, on the other hand... Also, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Leeds, Barcelona, Melbourne - got into physical brawls there or got mugged. Edited February 26, 2016 by Johnniey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ive never felt unsafe in Thailand apart from the idiot drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 it seems tht most "critics haven't read any of the report and also don't actually understand what it is about...Mercer is basically concerned with the EMPLOYMENT of expats by companies...and concentrates on what is on offer for expat employees of these companies....... Mercer evaluates local living conditions in more than 440 cities surveyed worldwide. Living conditions are analysed according to 39 factors, grouped in 10 categories: Political and social environment (political stability, crime, law enforcement, etc.). Economic environment (currency exchange regulations, banking services). Socio-cultural environment (media availability and censorship, limitations on personal freedom). Medical and health considerations (medical supplies and services, infectious diseases, sewage, waste disposal, air pollution, etc.). Schools and education (standards and availability of international schools). Public services and transportation (electricity, water, public transportation, traffic congestion, etc.). Recreation (restaurants, theatres, cinemas, sports and leisure, etc.). Consumer goods (availability of food/daily consumption items, cars, etc.). Housing (rental housing, household appliances, furniture, maintenance services). Natural environment (climate, record of natural disasters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk_mike Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Mercer would not know if their arse was on fire , what a load of rubbish, how this even gets printed as a bonafide report , when not one South American country is on that list , Where the <deleted> is Mexico, ? So as a paper report i would suggest to Mercer that they install the printed copies in their hong nam! Couldn't agree more. A friend from Brazil was visiting a while ago. He was comparing Thailand with his home country and was amazed how he could feel safe anywhere in Bangkok, even in the most impoverished of the city. An other friend from Texas too told me once how he feel safe here, he even added : here you don't get shot at for a pair of shoes (??). To finish, I've been an expat in Asia for more than 20 years. I've personally known two person who were killed in two separate criminal incidents in the Philippine and an other couple of people who were killed in traffic accident in China. Regarding Thailand it seems the principal cause of death here is old age ... Actually, for foreigners, suicide and murder are the principle cause of death. Riding a motorbike in Thailand is suicidal, but I don't know that I'd technically classify it as suicide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 It would be much safer if they gave proper driving lessons and checked the fixtures on upper floor apartment balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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