After Chicago scuffles Donald Trump forced to cancel his latest rally in Ohio

[Ulysses G.]

A clear case of Citizens United meeting citizens united.

A clear case of the free speech loving liberals denying free speech to those who do not agree with them.

Denying 'free speech' to an empty shirt who uses it to talk about his dick size in campaign for President.

The liberal excuse for denying free speech to fellow Americans - really sickening.

[arjunadawn]

Throughout my life I have seen all manner of hatred pass as acceptable under the cover of liberal this or that; as have millions of Americans, and Trump. Always emotional, always a different standard applied, always percolating just below violent, always diverting and distracting discourse to the emotive, the single greatest instigator of political conflict in the US is the liberal left. Always wrapped smugly in feel good agenda they consistently demonstrate a penchant for intolerance and provocation since the 60s. Indeed, the Weatherman terrorists of the 60s are the Chicago Dons of the 2000s (see Bill Ayers). In fact, the single greatest provocateur of all conflict in the modern age is the left. While its true ugliness can be found all over, its to the left that the discourse in the US has turned ugly. Throwing all manner of shiit on Trump's wall to see what sticks is truly the pot calling the kettle black. The entire leftist agenda is predicated upon race- only race, always race, always confrontation, always aggression.

Just reading the posts here one sees those who oppose Trump attacking... those who support Trump. One finds on TV those who oppose HRC, Sanders, Obama, the left... attacking... HRC, Sanders, Obama, and the left. The radical left always races to the bottom, always embraces rage as intellect, and always provokes violence in America. Reading the posts here is like watching the evolution of Trump, his supporters, and the haters in real time. Haters. The entrenched liberal/socialist haters will be escalating violence constantly now. The American right may 'rightly' be called dumbass and archaic but violence is the capital of the left.

[NovaBlue05]

I doubt Trump or any GOP nominee will count on the black vote. They vote as a block....85-90% Democrat. I doubt Dubya got 10-15% of the black vote in 2000 or 2004

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.

[mike324]

If a school teacher or administrator ever made the same comments that Trump said, they would have been sacked. So why do supporters of Trump think its alright for a presidential candidate to do so?

[lostboy]

Throughout my life I have seen all manner of hatred pass as acceptable under the cover of liberal this or that; as have millions of Americans, and Trump. Always emotional, always a different standard applied, always percolating just below violent, always diverting and distracting discourse to the emotive, the single greatest instigator of political conflict in the US is the liberal left. Always wrapped smugly in feel good agenda they consistently demonstrate a penchant for intolerance and provocation since the 60s. Indeed, the Weatherman terrorists of the 60s are the Chicago Dons of the 2000s (see Bill Ayers). In fact, the single greatest provocateur of all conflict in the modern age is the left. While its true ugliness can be found all over, its to the left that the discourse in the US has turned ugly. Throwing all manner of shiit on Trump's wall to see what sticks is truly the pot calling the kettle black. The entire leftist agenda is predicated upon race- only race, always race, always confrontation, always aggression.

Just reading the posts here one sees those who oppose Trump attacking... those who support Trump. One finds on TV those who oppose HRC, Sanders, Obama, the left... attacking... HRC, Sanders, Obama, and the left. The radical left always races to the bottom, always embraces rage as intellect, and always provokes violence in America. Reading the posts here is like watching the evolution of Trump, his supporters, and the haters in real time. Haters. The entrenched liberal/socialist haters will be escalating violence constantly now. The American right may 'rightly' be called dumbass and archaic but violence is the capital of the left.

It is no longer surprising to observe the intellectual dishonesty that pervades this and many of your recent posts on the Trump issues. I had thought that there could be substantive debate but these are posts of a pamphleteer, a propagandist, not posts of a rational mind. The whole Left as emotive argument is just amorphous babble that gets no more credible the more you repeat it. The dishonesty of the claim that the Left are purveyors of hate against against those who support Trump, while the Right only attack the individual political figures with whom they disagree is palpable. It is also easily refuted with just a cursory examination of posts from Trump supporters.

Violence and the language of violence is a hallmark of the Trump movement. We have all seen the vicious brawls and attacks on protestors at Trump rallies. 80 year old fools who are using Trump as a cheap form of viagra sucker punching black people who are rightly objecting to Trumps White Nativism. These are scenes directly from the early 20th Century; Spain, Italy, Germany and the Right's use of violence to obtain political ends.

These posts could rise to the level of competent, rational argument if the same standards that you apply to critique of the Left were also applied to the Right. This is the very meaning of intellectual dishonesty.

[Ulysses G.]

If a school teacher or administrator ever made the same comments that Trump said, they would have been sacked. So why do supporters of Trump think its alright for a presidential candidate to do so?

Teachers are teaching only kids. Trump is going to be voted on by adults. He talks like most grownups do.

Edited March 14, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[Ulysses G.]

These posts could rise to the level of competent, rational argument if the same standards that you apply to critique of the Left were also applied to the Right. This is the very meaning of intellectual dishonesty.

You need to follow your own advice. You write some of the most one-sided, partisan posts on the forum. How hypocritical.

Edited March 14, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[lostboy]

If a school teacher or administrator ever made the same comments that Trump said, they would have been sacked. So why do supporters of Trump think its alright for a presidential candidate to do so?

Teachers are teaching only kids. Trump is going to be voted on by adults. He talks like most grownups do.

Trump talks at a 4th grade level. It has been demonstrated by empirical tests. So speak for yourself.

[lovelomsak]

Seems the so called anti-Trump protests are being funded by the George Sorus funded MoveOn.org who have taken credit for the Ohio violence. Sorus and other wealthy Democrats started the organization, apparently if a non establishment candidate gets too popular with the voters then they send in the paid thugs to disrupt, democracy in action?

Add in GOP billionaires and their bought politicians having a five star meeting to discuss how to stop Trump, this is all getting quite bizarre. Well, if Sorus and the 1% are against Trump what better endorsement could you have to vote for him?

Seems the Us and Thailand have a lot in common. the elits powers will do what ever it takes to keep out politicians who put the people first. This US election is starting to look like Shut Down Bangkok.,the way Trump is being attacked.

[Credo]

Seems the so called anti-Trump protests are being funded by the George Sorus funded MoveOn.org who have taken credit for the Ohio violence. Sorus and other wealthy Democrats started the organization, apparently if a non establishment candidate gets too popular with the voters then they send in the paid thugs to disrupt, democracy in action?

Add in GOP billionaires and their bought politicians having a five star meeting to discuss how to stop Trump, this is all getting quite bizarre. Well, if Sorus and the 1% are against Trump what better endorsement could you have to vote for him?

Seems the Us and Thailand have a lot in common. the elits powers will do what ever it takes to keep out politicians who put the people first. This US election is starting to look like Shut Down Bangkok.,the way Trump is being attacked.

The US and Thailand have little in common and one rally in Ohio being canceled will not shut down the US.

Trump is a part of the establishment in the US. His rhetoric may not make it seem so, but he most surely is.

[Ulysses G.]

Trump talks at a 4th grade level. It has been demonstrated by empirical tests. So speak for yourself.

I'm sure he could tone it down for you if you asked him nicely

Edited March 14, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[canathai8]

The allegation-supposition that Donald Trump is clinically obese (I use supposition because the definition of obese is slightly subjective) - is postulated here - because Trump had the bald-faced temerity - audacity to diss a handicapped man - a paralytic - in fact Donald joked that the paralytic man couldn't wear pants..

Why does Trump (who evidently cannot stop stuffing excessive amounts of food into his cakehole - another type of handicap) get a free ride for making fun of a handicapped man on national TV?

Put another way - why does his shiiiiit not stink?

[mrwebb8825]

The allegation-supposition that Donald Trump is clinically obese (I use supposition because the definition of obese is slightly subjective) - is postulated here - because Trump had the bald-faced temerity - audacity to diss a handicapped man - a paralytic - in fact Donald joked that the paralytic man couldn't wear pants..

Why does Trump (who evidently cannot stop stuffing excessive amounts of food into his cakehole - another type of handicap) get a free ride for making fun of a handicapped man on national TV?

Put another way - why does his shiiiiit not stink?

You need to go back and watch the video again. He wasn't making fun of the guy for being handicapped, he was making fun of him for being an idiot who happened to be handicapped.

Nobody cried foul when he picked on Rosie O'Donnell or that broad from Fox.

Talk about a double standard.

And by the way, Did you speak out as self righteously against Saturday Night Live when Eddie Murphy created and acted out the character "HandiMan"? Talk about making fun of all handicapped people on national TV.

[helpisgood]

The progressive left show their contempt for the first amendment and the rule of law, as usual. Trump was attacked on stage in Kansas, the progressives cheer. Then Islamic state videos were found on the attackers YouTube account, then silence, complete silence.

Where did you find this information, especially about the YouTube accounts?

I'd like to read more about this.

Thanks!

Try this.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/12/breaking-trump-ohio-attacker-tommy-dimassimo-connected-to-isis-suspect-featured-in-isis-propaganda-videos-2015/

The videos already gone from YouTube, someone works fast, but hopefully someone made copies before all traces were covered. Edit, they did copy enclosed in the link. Sure as hell looks like Dimassimo, Bernie Sanders supporter and #blacklivesmatter activist dragging a U.S flag on the floor behind him, juxtaposed with someone singing in Arabic as the soundtrack.

I did see on the Conservative Tree website the video that you have referred to. I don't like what the young people were doing.

You really don't think that IS (or whatever they're called) produced this video, do you? After watching it, that doesn't make any sense. It looks doctored to me.

Has IS taken credit for this particular video or announced their support for it? They don't seem especially shy or discreet about such things.

Edited March 14, 2016 by helpisgood

[helpisgood]

The allegation-supposition that Donald Trump is clinically obese (I use supposition because the definition of obese is slightly subjective) - is postulated here - because Trump had the bald-faced temerity - audacity to diss a handicapped man - a paralytic - in fact Donald joked that the paralytic man couldn't wear pants..

Why does Trump (who evidently cannot stop stuffing excessive amounts of food into his cakehole - another type of handicap) get a free ride for making fun of a handicapped man on national TV?

Put another way - why does his shiiiiit not stink?

You need to go back and watch the video again. He wasn't making fun of the guy for being handicapped, he was making fun of him for being an idiot who happened to be handicapped.

Nobody cried foul when he picked on Rosie O'Donnell or that broad from Fox.

Talk about a double standard.

And by the way, Did you speak out as self righteously against Saturday Night Live when Eddie Murphy created and acted out the character "HandiMan"? Talk about making fun of all handicapped people on national TV.

People did cry foul about O'Donnell and Kelly (aka, "that broad"), though perhaps less so.

I did see the video and, with his exaggerated body language, Trump is clearly making fun of his physical handicap.

Murphy was a comic doing a character. Trump is a presidential candidate publicly making fun of a specific person who had criticized him.

[johnnynmonic]

And here I thought the intolerant, liberal progressive tolerant types were bad. I see now, there's no hate like conservative hate. If you thought pres. Obama was bad, wait'll you see the country under THIS guy.

[boomerangutang]

If I had teenage sons, I wouldn't want Trump to be their boy scout leader. He's a foul person, ......a potty-mouth, quick-to-anger, quick-to-blame, racist demagogue.

That's as nicely as I can put it.

[Steely Dan]

The progressive left show their contempt for the first amendment and the rule of law, as usual. Trump was attacked on stage in Kansas, the progressives cheer. Then Islamic state videos were found on the attackers YouTube account, then silence, complete silence.

Where did you find this information, especially about the YouTube accounts?

I'd like to read more about this.

Thanks!

Try this.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/12/breaking-trump-ohio-attacker-tommy-dimassimo-connected-to-isis-suspect-featured-in-isis-propaganda-videos-2015/

The videos already gone from YouTube, someone works fast, but hopefully someone made copies before all traces were covered. Edit, they did copy enclosed in the link. Sure as hell looks like Dimassimo, Bernie Sanders supporter and #blacklivesmatter activist dragging a U.S flag on the floor behind him, juxtaposed with someone singing in Arabic as the soundtrack.

I did see on the Conservative Tree website the video that you have referred to. I don't like what the young people were doing.

You really don't think that IS (or whatever they're called) produced this video, do you? After watching it, that doesn't make any sense. It looks doctored to me.

Has IS taken credit for this particular video or announced their support for it? They don't seem especially shy or discreet about such things.

Yes the video was a hoax in the sense someone put an Arabic soundtrack on it. That said someone supporting Bernie Sanders, obsessed with #blacklivesmatter, though himself white, dragging the U.S flag through the dirt was all real. On his Twitter feed he had an avatar with the word 'lion' in it, Jihaddis refer to themselves as lions. All far more damaging to Trumps opponents than Trump, of that I'm certain.

[helpisgood]

Try this.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/12/breaking-trump-ohio-attacker-tommy-dimassimo-connected-to-isis-suspect-featured-in-isis-propaganda-videos-2015/

The videos already gone from YouTube, someone works fast, but hopefully someone made copies before all traces were covered. Edit, they did copy enclosed in the link. Sure as hell looks like Dimassimo, Bernie Sanders supporter and #blacklivesmatter activist dragging a U.S flag on the floor behind him, juxtaposed with someone singing in Arabic as the soundtrack.

I did see on the Conservative Tree website the video that you have referred to. I don't like what the young people were doing.

You really don't think that IS (or whatever they're called) produced this video, do you? After watching it, that doesn't make any sense. It looks doctored to me.

Has IS taken credit for this particular video or announced their support for it? They don't seem especially shy or discreet about such things.

Yes the video was a hoax in the sense someone put an Arabic soundtrack on it. That said someone supporting Bernie Sanders, obsessed with #blacklivesmatter, though himself white, dragging the U.S flag through the dirt was all real. On his Twitter feed he had an avatar with the word 'lion' in it, Jihaddis refer to themselves as lions. All far more damaging to Trumps opponents than Trump, of that I'm certain. it's not damaging to any candidate. Just another strange person, which you could find anywhere on the political spectrum.

It ought not to be damaging to any candidate. It's just another strange person, which you can find anywhere on the political spectrum.

(I had to remove some quoted earlier posts lest the computer would not let me post)

Edited March 14, 2016 by helpisgood

[Usernames]

I did see on the Conservative Tree website the video that you have referred to. I don't like what the young people were doing.

You really don't think that IS (or whatever they're called) produced this video, do you? After watching it, that doesn't make any sense. It looks doctored to me.

Has IS taken credit for this particular video or announced their support for it? They don't seem especially shy or discreet about such things.

Yes the video was a hoax in the sense someone put an Arabic soundtrack on it. That said someone supporting Bernie Sanders, obsessed with #blacklivesmatter, though himself white, dragging the U.S flag through the dirt was all real. On his Twitter feed he had an avatar with the word 'lion' in it, Jihaddis refer to themselves as lions. All far more damaging to Trumps opponents than Trump, of that I'm certain. it's not damaging to any candidate. Just another strange person, which you could find anywhere on the political spectrum.

It ought not to be damaging to any candidate. It's just another strange person, which you can find anywhere on the political spectrum.

(I had to remove some quoted earlier posts lest the computer would not let me post)

Yes, "just another strange person," who bull rushed the platform where a candidate for president was speaking with the self declared intent to take the microphone away by any means necessary. Sure, just another strange person. Ho-hum. What if a Trump or even Rubio supporter had done that at an Obama, Clinton, or Sanders speech? My guess is he would have been shot. And if captured, he certainly wouldn't have been released within 24 hours and given a chance to make an uninterrupted statement on CNN.

[Farfetched]

Why would Democrats be against Trump

They should all leave Trump along , He is doing a great job destroying the republican party,

They should actually contribute money to his campaign.

Yes, please donate to the Donald Trump Campaign.

[boomerangutang]

The more I see/hear about Trump, the more he reminds me of a crass version of Thaksin. Neither man can admit ever making a mistake. A direct quote from Trump:

"“I don’t think I’ve made mistakes. Every time somebody said I made a mistake, they do the polls and my numbers go up, so I guess I haven't made any mistakes."

He's proof that having billions of dollars doesn't give a person class. Not even a gold toilet (like the one in his jet) makes a man sophisticated.

[Linzz]

After all of the racism and violence he has encouraged in his rallies, speeches and "debates" , Trump should be forced to cancel his bid for the presidency.

He can go back to peddling his beef and booze on his own time.

So whether Trump is suitable or not is not only your choice to make. You would support extinguishing the voting rights of a huge swathe of American people making their democratic choice null and void because you know better.That is not democracy you support but oligarchy

[mike324]

If a school teacher or administrator ever made the same comments that Trump said, they would have been sacked. So why do supporters of Trump think its alright for a presidential candidate to do so?

Teachers are teaching only kids. Trump is going to be voted on by adults. He talks like most grownups do.

"Teachers are teaching only kids" .... you serious? so a president is not someone kids should look up to let alone adults....right....must be Trump Logic. Build a wall and tell mexico to pay for it....or to quote a Trump supporter "china will pay for it" .....hahaha

[sgtsabai]

I notice a typical right wing ploy happening here. Try to shift the blame for their actions on those that speak truth to the power and stand against the forces of fascism. The Donald and his brown shirts have gotten away with vamping on single protesters, didn't work out so good in Chicago. BTW it is the right wing that have been activily extingusing the rights of 100's of thousands of people to vote. Why, because most of those people tend to vote Democrat. And do try to understand what oligarchy is, I'll help http://global.britannica.com/topic/oligarchy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutocracy http://www.salon.com/2015/03/22/5_signs_america_is_devolving_into_a_plutocracy_partner/ More on the Donald: http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176114/tomgram%3A_bob_dreyfuss%2C_will_the_donald_rally_the_militias_and_the_right-to-carry_movement/#more http://transformativespaces.org/2016/03/13/no-welcome-mat-for-fascism-stop-whining-about-trumps-right-tofree-speech/

[sgtsabai]

http://transformativespaces.org/2016/03/13/no-welcome-mat-for-fascism-stop-whining-about-trumps-right-tofree-speech/

[Usernames]

http://transformativespaces.org/2016/03/13/no-welcome-mat-for-fascism-stop-whining-about-trumps-right-tofree-speech/

Extremist Left/Communist website. The old Soviet Pravda was more sober than it is.

[sgtsabai]

I agree with the author, the people need to stand their ground against the Trump brown shirt violence. To scared to read it? Or did you actually read it and can't handle the truth? Do you even know what communism is? More scare tactics from the right, communisist...lol, oh give me a break. I knew a few, there are after all very few, some years ago. To say we did not get along will would be a huge understatement. Yes, it is certainly left of people like you, thankfully. Trump got what he deserves everywhere he goes in Chicago.

[rice555]

I agree with the author, the people need to stand their ground against the Trump brown shirt violence. To scared to read it? Or did you actually read it and can't handle the truth? Do you even know what communism is? More scare tactics from the right, communisist...lol, oh give me a break. I knew a few, there are after all very few, some years ago. To say we did not get along will would be a huge understatement. Yes, it is certainly left of people like you, thankfully. Trump got what he deserves everywhere he goes in Chicago.

I think you disgrace our flag and what it stands for,

they deserve free speech and their day at the polls.

rice555