Vatican probes funding for cardinal’s luxury apartment

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Vatican probes funding for cardinal’s luxury apartment



The Vatican says it is investigating claims that money meant for a children’s hospital was used to refurbish the luxury apartment of a high-ranking cardinal.

A lawyer for Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who is not being personally investigated, said the cardinal never asked for or authorised any payment from the hospital foundation in relation to his residence.

The probe is focusing on the former manager of the hospital and its ex-treasurer.

According to an article in L’Espresso magazine, the work on the cardinal’s apartment cost about 400-thousand euros.

The author of the piece published a book last year alleging that money meant for sick children had been spent on Bertone’s flat.

In another case involving the hospital, Italian media have reported that 30 million euros of state funds destined for the hospital was diverted to save a different Church-owned institution.

-- (c) Copyright Euronews 2016-04-02

[shirtless]

Maybe they should start paying taxes as they are all about profit,

[KC 71]

No sh..t sherlock !

[jobsworth]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

[klauskunkel]

A lawyer for Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who is not being personally investigated, said the cardinal never asked for or authorised any payment from the hospital foundation in relation to his residence.

Well, did he pay for it with his own wealth, or did he get a loan from God? But since he is not being investigated by his own institution, one can't really ask a simple question like that.

Edited April 2, 2016 by klauskunkel

[Cats4ever]

Not much Frankie of Assisi in the current cardinals. George Pell lives in the Domus Australis, which was funded by the Sydney religo zone, as an "investment"? Not sure that they are value for money.

[Dap]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

I am not a fan of NGO's as I believe a great number of them are nothing more than easy money scams

but I am aware of a handful that work against the current, staffed by very conscientious and hard working

people who do not rake in the cash. To those few I certainly tip my hat.

[WitawatWatawit]

Quote: " ... the cardinal never asked for or authorised any payment from the hospital foundation in relation to his residence."

But he accepted it without query, right?

"Beulah, peel me a grape!"

[pitrevie]

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

Napoleon Bonaparte

[fxe1200]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

But there is also a bright side, where the complete accounting is visible online, and all the work involved is done for free.

[geriatrickid]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

Please be more specific. You need not name the NGO as per forum rules but please provide;

1. Location (village, city)

2. Alleged misuse of fund specific

3. Focus of NGO

For example;

1. Chiang Rai

2. Purchase of Jacuzzi for Manager

3. Education of hill tribes

I visited Chiang Rai last week for a number of reasons. I looked for some NGO abuses at some of the well known agencies. Didn't see any in the same way I have seen elsewhere. That's why I am interested in your comment.

[geriatrickid]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

But there is also a bright side, where the complete accounting is visible online, and all the work involved is done for free.

Nothing is "free". There are food, lodging, equipment, logistics and travel costs.

The reputable charities have transparency and publish their financials and annual reports.

[geriatrickid]

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

Napoleon Bonaparte

Said the despotic dictator who failed in his imperial designs.

[Pimay1]

Poor people worldwide doing without and scraping pennies together to give to the church and these <deleted> live like kings in all their pious and self-righteousness. People like this guy taking advantage of poor people as they and their children starve to death is one reason I'm a firm believer in Hell.

[wirat69]

No sh..t sherlock !

... or perhaps "No sh..t Shylock"???

[rosst]

Disgraceful the flow of money from the poor peoples pennies in the Philippines to fund the Catholic Church in Rome.

[NCC1701A]

nice hat.

[soalbundy]

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

Napoleon Bonaparte

Said the despotic dictator who failed in his imperial designs.

but he wasn't a hypocrite, he was transparent

[soalbundy]

As a cardinal of the Catholic church he must believe in hell, his next domicile.

[Bobotie]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

But there is also a bright side, where the complete accounting is visible online, and all the work involved is done for free.

Nothing is "free". There are food, lodging, equipment, logistics and travel costs.

The reputable charities have transparency and publish their financials and annual reports.

enough said about "reputable charities".......

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/beware-charity-industry-profiting-people-6377855

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10224104/30-charity-chiefs-paid-more-than-100000.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jnylander/2015/09/17/is-hong-kong-a-paradise-for-charity-fraudsters-it-surely-could-be/#4e16c1a476e0

Edited April 2, 2016 by Bobotie

[mesterm]

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

Napoleon Bonaparte

And smartphones. Don't forget smartphones.

[Bobotie]

As a cardinal of the Catholic church he must believe in hell, his next domicile.

Organised religion...the greatest scam ever inflicted on mankind and one of the most profitable ponzi schemes for a select few

[colinneil]

When i stayed in Mae hong son, i used to see many NGO workers driving around in new 4x4s.

Eating and drinking expensively all paid for by the NGO.

Before anybody challenges that, i saw it have names of people/NGOs.

1 man Swedish national bragged to me how easy it was to live the high life without paying for it.

[slipperylobster]

Maybe they should start paying taxes as they are all about profit,

Hush hush.......

Your soul is in peril of eternal fire, if you turn in a cardinal.

[slipperylobster]

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

Napoleon Bonaparte

And smartphones. Don't forget smartphones.

..and gun legislation. don't forget gun legislation.

People cannot murder without guns.

[NeilSA1]

Quote: " ... the cardinal never asked for or authorised any payment from the hospital foundation in relation to his residence."

But he accepted it without query, right?

"Beulah, peel me a grape!"

Sounds very much like Jacob Zuma, president of South Africa, except the costs were far higher.

".... the cardinal never asked for or authorised any payment​..."

[samjaidee]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

Why would the Vatican investigate NGOs outside their control?

It would appear that someone didn't think before typing.

[Khon Kaen Dave]

What??? the biggest business in the world corrupt? say it isnt so.I refuse to believe it.

The greatest trick the devil ever played,was making us think he didn't exist.

[fxe1200]

instead they should investigate the ngo's in thailand and cambodia.

spending money on luxury goods while children starve is normal.

But there is also a bright side, where the complete accounting is visible online, and all the work involved is done for free.

Nothing is "free". There are food, lodging, equipment, logistics and travel costs.

The reputable charities have transparency and publish their financials and annual reports.

enough said about "reputable charities".......

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/beware-charity-industry-profiting-people-6377855

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10224104/30-charity-chiefs-paid-more-than-100000.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jnylander/2015/09/17/is-hong-kong-a-paradise-for-charity-fraudsters-it-surely-could-be/#4e16c1a476e0

" ...complete accounting is visible online, and all the work involved is done for free." What's wrong with that? Sure the work is free, and 100% transparency possible, and accessible.

"The reputable charities have transparency and publish their financials and annual reports." That is also right, though I know charities, where more than 50% of their donations are being spent on salaries, and they are still considered "reputable".

BTW: I like your Avatar

[SABloke]

What??? the biggest business in the world corrupt? say it isnt so.I refuse to believe it.

The greatest trick the devil ever played,was making us think he didn't exist.

The greatest trick the church ever played, was making us think the devil did exist