mesterm Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Oh well. Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Where's Vlad the Impailer when you really need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Watching the Turkish military walking off the bridge, hands high in the air. Massive Fail ! Talk about getting owned. They're be a few spinchtas puckering ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Watching the Turkish military walking off the bridge, hands high in the air. Massive Fail ! Talk about getting owned. They're be a few spinchtas puckering ATM. Big mistake. There should have been some officers and NCOs standing behind them with orders to shoot to kill if they surrendered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usernames Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 If I'm Putin, and this coup is reflective of the ability and backbone of the Turkish military, I might just walk in and take over the entire country. Already know that Obama and the rest of Nato will probably turn and run with their tails between their legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Just read Obama and Kerry support Erdogan, so there it is Obama's inverted Midas touch with foreign policy means I'm supporting the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagnabbit Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 What kind of values does the coup attempting military hold? I tried to ask this from couple of journalist, and never got an reply. Nobody seems to know at the moment. Erdogan has been an arse for a long time and it's good if he goes or be killed. But before hoping this to happen, it would be nice to know what is going to be his replacement. Any ideas? My thoughts exactly. Are they Islamists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepinthailand Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Good fforthem ddon'tlike the smelly place anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptoyoumyfriend Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) the army support a secular state-nation as did ataturk.erdogan wants to be a strong man favouring an islamic state. Edited July 16, 2016 by uptoyoumyfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 This should enhance their chances of EU membership, exactly the type of country to take up the Brexit slack. Wonder if Mad Merkel will continue to push for fast tracking the application but I suppose even she will have to wait for the dust to settle and see who the last man standing is. What's the chances of comments locally that it will not affect LoS, tourism or the economy ? Its coming from the TAT lady that is guaranteed. In fact she will no doubt spin it and say it means an increase in tourism for Thailand. They never miss a beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 BBC was saying earlier, that a US based cleric may be behind it. Sent from my SMART_4G_Speedy_5inch using Tapatalk He must figure he is another Khomeini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwiken Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Now the Coup has fail Erdogan will prosecute to the full. Expect little mercy and Jihadist style maximun executions after Kangaroo courts. Turkey will further embrace radical Islam . Happy times Europe you just guaranteed the back door is open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 So are we now talking about an Islamist Turkey, or a secularist Turkey? It has pretty wide-ranging implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwiken Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 So are we now talking about an Islamist Turkey, or a secularist Turkey? It has pretty wide-ranging implications. Turkey has been moving away from Secularism for many years now. Certain not the vision Kemal Ataturk had for his Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwiken Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Tayyip Erdogan: Rise 1970s-1980s - Active in Islamist circles, member of Necmettin Erbakan's Welfare Party 1994-1998 - Mayor of Istanbul, until military officers made power grab 1998 - Welfare Party banned, Erdogan jailed for four months for inciting religious hatred Aug 2001 - Founds Islamist-rooted AKP with ally Abdullah Gul 2002-2003 - AKP wins solid majority in parliamentary election, Erdogan appointed prime minister Aug 2014 - Becomes president after first-ever direct elections for head of state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) Al Jazeera cutrently live coverage of acting army Chief of Staff announcing that the coup has been unsuccessful with hundreds now in custody (or dead). 'Sounds like the fat lady has crooned with unpleasant times ahead for those involved. Hmmm - if you're a fleeing Turkish army officer, where do you flee to? Syria? Edited July 16, 2016 by hawker9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thailand's militaries nightmare in a nutshell. After a significant event a populist leader takes to social media and asks his supporters to come out in their millions peacefully to support democracy. What does the army do then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thailand's militaries nightmare in a nutshell. After a significant event a populist leader takes to social media and asks his supporters to come out in their millions peacefully to support democracy. What does the army do then ? Except that's not what happens in Turkey. The elected government erodes democracy and secularism, the elected aspiring dictator called upon his islamist voters to support him... Sad news coming from Turkey, it seems like Erdogan is winning. I'm surprised they staged a coup without first making sure they would arrest the government and top people in command to prevent them from using their levers. Rather strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thailand's militaries nightmare in a nutshell. After a significant event a populist leader takes to social media and asks his supporters to come out in their millions peacefully to support democracy. What does the army do then ? Except that's not what happens in Turkey. The elected government erodes democracy and secularism, the elected aspiring dictator called upon his islamist voters to support him... Sad news coming from Turkey, it seems like Erdogan is winning. I'm surprised they staged a coup without first making sure they would arrest the government and top people in command to prevent them from using their levers. Rather strange. Sad news indeed, but I predict Turkey is so unstable that Erdogan can go at any time. Next coup attempt will be Iran, let's hope that one is more successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Nato chief: "full respect" for Turkish government Natos chief has issued a call for full respect for Turkeys democratic institutions and constitution, according to the Associated Press. Nato secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg said in a statement: I have just spoken to the Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu. I am following events in Turkey closely and with concern. The statement continued, I call for calm and restraint, and full respect for Turkeys democratic institutions and its constitution. ...Turkey is a valued Nato ally. It might have escaped your attention but a certain Erdogan has been doing his utmost to destroy Turkey's democratic institutions and its constitution. This coming from a NATO chief is beyond unbelievable. Without the NATO chiefs' comment, can easily replace Turkey and Erdogan with Th...... And Th..... Same same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 This RUSE was planned by the government and inspired by Reichstag fire in Nazi Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Bosphorus strait is where Europe ends. Turkey is displaying the reasons it's part of Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well, every set now for the EU membership then; don't forget to call Angela Merkel in Berlin.And if you're at it remind her of that unfunny German comedian who needs to be sued by the German supreme court too ..........On her last visit to Ankara the Turkish immigration officer asked her "Occupation?" to which she replied "No, just staying a few days!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Speculation if the failed coup was fake and initiated by Erdogan. http://www.dailystormer.com/was-the-turkish-coup-an-erdogan-hoax/ Tunis in 1991 http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/12/17/the-long-shadow-of-ben-ali/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 To quote Disraeli: 'To hell with Hull and Halifax and don't trust Johnny Turk!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutz Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 If Erdogan wins, he'll go full Islamic now. And a massive amount of the population will be with him , you cant trust any of this lot and Merky wants to let them into the E.U thank God we are out . Erdogan is indeed a dangerous authotarian bastard. Getting rid of critical media, removing such people from positions in the militairy etc. Granting himself more powers. But despite all that he was democraticaly elected... I don't understand why but apparantly a lot of Turks buy into Edro's and AKP's nationalistic nonsense of a great and important Turkey. Reviving the good old days of the Ottoman empire. But such nationalistic crap sells well, you see it happening in lots of other countries including the west. As for Merkel (why do some here call her a liberal? She's a conservative, the party she leads is an obvious give away for that), I do only recall that she and some others agreed to keep on talking about EU membership. But that does not equal desiring that Turkey joins. And even if some would... It's a long shot away from meeting the requirements so Turkey won't be able to join for a very long time (decades atleast and with the direction Erdogan is taking Turkey will never be able to join). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berty100 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 If Erdogan wins, he'll go full Islamic now. And a massive amount of the population will be with him , you cant trust any of this lot and Merky wants to let them into the E.U thank God we are out . Erdogan is indeed a dangerous authotarian bastard. Getting rid of critical media, removing such people from positions in the militairy etc. Granting himself more powers. But despite all that he was democraticaly elected... I don't understand why but apparantly a lot of Turks buy into Edro's and AKP's nationalistic nonsense of a great and important Turkey. Reviving the good old days of the Ottoman empire. But such nationalistic crap sells well, you see it happening in lots of other countries including the west.As for Merkel (why do some here call her a liberal? She's a conservative, the party she leads is an obvious give away for that), I do only recall that she and some others agreed to keep on talking about EU membership. But that does not equal desiring that Turkey joins. And even if some would... It's a long shot away from meeting the requirements so Turkey won't be able to join for a very long time (decades atleast and with the direction Erdogan is taking Turkey will never be able to join). Turks have visum free entrance to Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Arrested those involved and charge them for treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 If Erdogan wins, he'll go full Islamic now. And a massive amount of the population will be with him , you cant trust any of this lot and Merky wants to let them into the E.U thank God we are out . Erdogan is indeed a dangerous authotarian bastard. Getting rid of critical media, removing such people from positions in the militairy etc. Granting himself more powers. But despite all that he was democraticaly elected... I don't understand why but apparantly a lot of Turks buy into Edro's and AKP's nationalistic nonsense of a great and important Turkey. Reviving the good old days of the Ottoman empire. But such nationalistic crap sells well, you see it happening in lots of other countries including the west.As for Merkel (why do some here call her a liberal? She's a conservative, the party she leads is an obvious give away for that), I do only recall that she and some others agreed to keep on talking about EU membership. But that does not equal desiring that Turkey joins. And even if some would... It's a long shot away from meeting the requirements so Turkey won't be able to join for a very long time (decades atleast and with the direction Erdogan is taking Turkey will never be able to join). let's continue to bankroll the Greek. As long as the Greek are in the EU, the Turks won't come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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