Tough Situation That Is Becoming A Hassle

[Robski]

Now the birds out the picture you're looking for new friends, it's understandable.

Invite the guys round for an evening on the playstation, they'll have to bring their own joystick though, unless they know a plumber.

What happened to the bird anyway?

Maybe she's still in Phuket trying to prize the play station out of the Loo..

My God you guys are taking this idot seriously..

Hardly LBD, this forum is almost as funny as the jokes forum, sometimes funnier.

You knows the score!

[muckypups]

Are you serious? I hope, for your sake, that this thread is a wind-up.

[mosquitoman]

Give toothlesstiger a bottle of whiskey, tell him no hard feelings but you dont wanna ride his ride anymore.

Why on earth should he give him a bottle of whiskey?

What has he done to deserve a bottle of whiskey?

This will make the OP look like a fool to all.

MM

[terry57]

going frigging off this post isn't it.?

the boys are loving it.

cheers punters

[mosquitoman]

going frigging off this post isn't it.?

the boys are loving it.

cheers punters

Your welcome

MM

[terry57]

going frigging off this post isn't it.?

the boys are loving it.

cheers punters

Your welcome

MM

thanks MM.

[Nawtilus]

MozzieMan....so what your saying he does not look like a fool now ??

[t.s]

deleted. pointless to respond

Edited November 22, 2006 by t.s

[meemiathai]

Now the birds out the picture you're looking for new friends, it's understandable.

Invite the guys round for an evening on the playstation, they'll have to bring their own joystick though, unless they know a plumber.

What happened to the bird anyway?

Maybe she's still in Phuket trying to prize the play station out of the Loo..

My God you guys are taking this idot seriously..

Yes, but in another thread they play Sherlock Holmes on the OP!

Crazy world!

And to the OP, I think it requires better problem-solving skills than that in order to live in thailand.

You better...

I guess life is much easier in farangland.

[t.s]

Mosquitoman wins my vote for advice. Culturallysensitive, defuses the situation, and puts everything back on even keel. Perfect!

not. makes him look like more of a putz thasn he already is.

take the guy, tell him to slow down and if he doesn't don't use him again.

[Robski]

The troll OP is good though you got to admit, seemingly innocent, he starts the topic and then leaves the trail cold.

I feel like I've not had my moneys worth you know, unsatisfied.

What happened to the bird? did the playstation joystick ever work again? would his parents dissapprove of a new found friendship with the local motorcycle taxi crew?

I really feel like I need to know these things.

I know it's sad, but can we have some more installments of your seemingly banal life 007?

Edited November 22, 2006 by Robski

[meemiathai]

Yeah Donz, but you're discounting Thai culture. The OP is trying to be as tactful as possible, enabling everyone to save face, especially in the light of the fact that several of the drivers are his close friends. If Mr. Fast is agressive enough to throw a soda can at him, clearly the OP needs to head off further complications.

Sorry to disagree with you again. I am starting to wonder how farangs really think of thais. It really looks like a lot of farangs think of thais as just a bunch of idiots.

"The OP is trying to be as tactful as possible, enabling everyone to save face," Save face my arse. UTTER RUBBISH!

Donz was 100% right! Just tell him if he doesn't drive more slowly you are never riding on it again!

[toptuan]

Mosquitoman wins my vote for advice. Culturallysensitive, defuses the situation, and puts everything back on even keel. Perfect!

not. makes him look like more of a putz thasn he already is.

...a putz where YOU come from! You just get off the boat too?

Edited November 22, 2006 by toptuan

[Robski]

And to the OP, I think it requires better problem-solving skills than that in order to live in thailand.

You better... too true

I guess life is much easier in farangland.

Bed of roses is the phrase you may have been grasping for. it is of course.

[toptuan]

The troll OP is good though you got to admit, seemingly innocent, he starts the topic and then leaves the trail cold.

I feel like I've not had my moneys worth you know, unsatisfied.

What happened to the bird? did the playstation joystick ever work again? would his parents dissapprove of a new found friendship with the local motorcycle taxi crew?

I really feel like I need to know these things.

I know it's sad, but can we have some more installments of your seemingly banal life 007?

[...despite me trying to take the guy seriously, too...] C'mon! Leave us soft and sensitive types alone!

Edited November 22, 2006 by toptuan

[Farang007]

I told my gf to get out of my room and never come back. (We arent living together, only dating). She started crying and said that she would get the controller out of the toliet, etc. She said she hates to lose and its not fair that I always beat her and wouldnt tell her how to make headers.

I said "if you want me stay with me, than we have to make love in the XXXXX position". She said she wouldnt do that, so I said to get out of my room, which she did.

[ColPyat]

Yes, and that way you prove to everybody that it is absolutely safe to treat you like a fool.

If you show to people that you can't stand up for yourself - it is an open invitation for everybody who holds a grudge against farang to take liberties with you.

No, he should have said straight away that he won't go with that guy instead of hiding behind a car. Making those sort of jokes after having been on the receivng end of a thrown soda can is a bit late.

Playground bully-mentality. Your reaction works in a British pub, setting you up for a good brawl, mate. This is Thailand. You get on the bad side of a gaggle of Moto-Cy's in your neighborhood, and you lose. [stop and read the thread about farangs fighting Thais.]

I would wager Mosquitoman has lived here decades longer than you. And the OP is smart enough to know that, as a guest in this country, you try to handle these things as amicably as possible.

P.S. How many brawls you been in, ColPyat? In the old country? In Thailand?

I think it is irrelevant in how many brawls i have been in. The question is how to avoid being mobbed by a bunch of lowlifes.

Let me explain it with an example:

When i moved into my neighborhood i am living now about three years ago, i started having a few problems with a few youths (mostly motocycle taxi drivers and ja maa dealers) from a nearby slum who played every afternoon football in front of my house. I had no issue with that, neither had i an issue with having to give them their balls when the got into my garden.

I started having an issue when they gave me the lip when i was busy and could not straight away run out and give them their ball. I stepped out of my gate and told them straight away that they should better be polite or they won't get any ball back that flies in my garden. The biggest one fronted me up, and i didn't back down. Some other kid let some comment loose about me being a farang and having to follow Thais. I told him to shut it, or do something about it because i won't follow some kid half my age, and that in that case it won't just end here. Things sort of calmed down after my missus came out as well.

A bit later i took the big bloke aside, and we had a chat about the stupidity to let the situation escalate, as we both would lose in the end, and agreed upon that in the future we will handle things differently. Things went OK. I still though told my friends from the local rescue group whom i been working with long even before i moved into the area about the situation.

They guys playing football have seen me then also with my friends from the rescue, and from then on the situation reversed completely - when some kid gave me a bit of a lip, the older blokes straight away give him a slap. Nowadays we get on very well.

Being a wuzz won't earn you any respect or face here. There is a middle way between an idiot out for a brawl and backing down. If you cannot show that you are willing to stand up for yourself, then nobody will help you either.

Yes, this is Thailand, and once face lost it is not regained by making stupid jokes. People will try to see how far they can go with you, regardless of you being Thai or Farang. If you let them, then you will have to suffer the consequences.

[toptuan]

I told my gf to get out of my room and never come back. (We arent living together, only dating). She started crying and said that she would get the controller out of the toliet, etc. She said she hates to lose and its not fair that I always beat her and wouldnt tell her how to make headers.

I said "if you want me stay with me, than we have to make love in the XXXXX position". She said she wouldnt do that, so I said to get out of my room, which she did.

OK, the guy's from another galaxy. Sorry I wasted my time....

[Robski]

I told my gf to get out of my room and never come back. (We arent living together, only dating). She started crying and said that she would get the controller out of the toliet, etc. She said she hates to lose and its not fair that I always beat her and wouldnt tell her how to make headers.

I said "if you want me stay with me, than we have to make love in the XXXXX position". She said she wouldnt do that, so I said to get out of my room, which she did.

That is pure gold 007, priceless! more please.

How's the controller?

Edited November 22, 2006 by Robski

[Farang007]

Thanks for the responses. Which idea do you like best:

1. I ask the security guard in my apartment building to have a word with these guys and let them know that I am a "good farang". I live in a touristed area, so it is understandable that these guys might think I am a "bad farang".

2. Samething as #1, only I use the apartment Manager who is a 30ish female.

3. I go up to them and make a joke about "Khun hen Casino Royale mi khrap", then I will take off my shirt and say "Me Same Same James Bond". If they see that I workout, they will probably think of me as a "cool farang" and not try and any crap with me. This also plays on the humor card.

4. I offer the toothless Mo-Cy a pair of eye glasses and say "Now maybe you can drive better"(does anyone know how to say this in Thai?)... Then I tell the other Mo-Cy. "Khun Somchai you drive safe. Take me to BTS Khrap!"

Edited November 22, 2006 by Farang007

[ColPyat]

I told my gf to get out of my room and never come back. (We arent living together, only dating). She started crying and said that she would get the controller out of the toliet, etc. She said she hates to lose and its not fair that I always beat her and wouldnt tell her how to make headers.

I said "if you want me stay with me, than we have to make love in the XXXXX position". She said she wouldnt do that, so I said to get out of my room, which she did.

OK, the guy's from another galaxy. Sorry I wasted my time....

Yes, it appears so.

[ColPyat]

Thanks for the responses. Which idea do you like best:

1. I ask the security guard in my apartment building to have a word with these guys and let them know that I am a "good farang". I live in the lower sukhumwit sois, so it is understandable that these guys might think I am a "bad farang".

2. Samething as #1, only I use the apartment Manager who is a 30ish female.

3. I go up to them and make a joke about "Khun hen Casino Royale mi khrap", then I will take off my shirt and say "Me Same Same James Bond". If they see that I workout, they will probably think of me as a "cool farang" and not try and any crap with me. This also plays on the humor card.

4. I offer the toothless Mo-Cy a pair of eye glasses and say "Now maybe you can drive better"(does anyone know how to say this in Thai?)... Then I tell the other Mo-Cy. "Khun Somchai you drive safe. Take me to BTS Khrap!"

I think you should better move somewhere else.

Really.

[toptuan]

Being a wuzz won't earn you any respect or face here. There is a middle way between an idiot out for a brawl and backing down. If you cannot show that you are willing to stand up for yourself, then nobody will help you either.

Yes, this is Thailand, and once face lost it is not regained by making stupid jokes. People will try to see how far they can go with you, regardless of you being Thai or Farang. If you let them, then you will have to suffer the consequences.

Good post, ColPyat. I back off. Perhaps this is, indeed, much broader than simply a Thai vs. farang issue. It's more of a "How to keep the balance on a playing field populated with low-life bullies." It transcends cultural issues, and perhaps the same scene could play out in Harlem, Watts, South Chicago, or East London (sorry to equate our beloved Big Mango with those neighborhoods--but I know it's not all Siam Paragon, either). Is that your point?

Edited November 22, 2006 by toptuan

[meemiathai]

Put a plastic bag on your head so no one will recognise you. Problem solved!

[mosquitoman]

MozzieMan....so what your saying he does not look like a fool now ??

I agree he may look like a fool now but if he starts buying these people bottles of whiskey he will look like an even bigger fool.

MM

[Robski]

Thanks for the responses. Which idea do you like best:

1. I ask the security guard in my apartment building to have a word with these guys and let them know that I am a "good farang". I live in a touristed area, so it is understandable that these guys might think I am a "bad farang".

2. Samething as #1, only I use the apartment Manager who is a 30ish female.

3. I go up to them and make a joke about "Khun hen Casino Royale mi khrap", then I will take off my shirt and say "Me Same Same James Bond". If they see that I workout, they will probably think of me as a "cool farang" and not try and any crap with me. This also plays on the humor card.

4. I offer the toothless Mo-Cy a pair of eye glasses and say "Now maybe you can drive better"(does anyone know how to say this in Thai?)... Then I tell the other Mo-Cy. "Khun Somchai you drive safe. Take me to BTS Khrap!"

Definately number 3, 100% go for it, please let us know what happened.

I have to go now before I get told off again.

[Robski]

Put a plastic bag on your head so no one will recognise you. Problem solved!

[ColPyat]

Good post, ColPyat. I back off. Perhaps this is, indeed, much broader than simply a Thai vs. farang issue. It's more of a "How to keep the balance on a playing field populated with low-life bullies." Is that your point?

Thanks.

And yes, that was my point. Sometimes not easy to get things across well enough on some internet board.

[taxexile]

told him to shut it,

the correct phrase is

"shut it yooooo slaaaaaaaaaaag"

Things sort of calmed down after my missus came out as well.

always handy to have some muscle as back up.

[mosquitoman]

They guys playing football have seen me then also with my friends from the rescue, and from then on the situation reversed completely - when some kid gave me a bit of a lip, the older blokes straight away give him a slap. Nowadays we get on very well.

Sounds like you are relying on been seen with some friends from the rescue group, who by the sounds of it you look upon as backup.

Try being in the same position with no mates and a 45 kg build, you will be amazed what a self depriciating sense of humour can do to difuse a tense situation

Only people with big fragile egos care if they look like a wuss.

MM