Thanks For Helping With The M6 Survey

[ajarnjacquie]

Thanks for helping with the M6 survey!! I have already explained to my students, that falangs are very sensitive about their qualifications or non-qualifications at the moment!!!

[The Dan Sai Kid]

Thanks for helping with the M6 survey!! I have already explained to my students, that falangs are very sensitive about their qualifications or non-qualifications at the moment!!!

Troll.

[PeaceBlondie]

Thanks for helping with the M6 survey!! I have already explained to my students, that falangs are very sensitive about their qualifications or non-qualifications at the moment!!!

Jaquelyn, my dear, I'm sure that many Thai ajarns with degrees in education from Thatalottafufu Rajabat are sensitive about their qualifications, too, since most of them can't pass their students' own tests, according to a report from the Thai Ministry of Education.

Yes, in a perfect bunny Foo Foo world, it would be supercalifragilistic for Thailand's native speaking teachers of English to all have proper degrees in education, all properly licensed after successfully completing a professionally supervised practicum, police check, etc. - at which the starting salary is at least 110,000 baht per month, with annual and sick leave, pensions, tax saving plans, real medical insurance, etc. It ain't gonna happen in Thailand.

The students in M6 did a survey. Would that have been a statistical questionaire, scientifically written and statistically sound, with proper parameters? Or was it little more than a brief online inquiry, and some half-English questions to a few of their local TEFLers during lunch break?

Okay, let's keep this topic open for a day or so, and let people give opinions.

I believe that to teach up to M4 in most govt. schools in Thailand, just to teach conversational English or speaking and listening, little more than a secondary certificate, a TEFL course certificate, and a solid interview in Thailand, are needed to let students know how native speakers clearly speak proper English. To teach serious advanced English (above intermediate level), including grammar and literature and using advanced pedagogical methods, requires a bachelor's degree that majored both in English language and in education. To teach at Chula, who knows.

Most of the teaching of English as a second/foreign language in Thailand is done by Thais who can't speak or write English clearly, and by farang with varying qualifications.

Oh, a real international school, and a serious bilingual school, even some EP schools, need native speaking TEFL teachers somewhere inbetween the other levels I've mentioned, in my opinion.

Whatcha really think, Jacquie? If I have a real BA, and the govt. trusted me to write official letters to members of Parliament, and if the armed forces trusted me to teach applied courses relating to aviation physiology, and I have a real TEFL certificate, and I really taught full time in matayom schools for two years - do I really need a B.Ed. and a DELTA to earn less than 32,000 baht per month in a govt. matayom school?

Note to Dan Sai Kid and others: yes, I am treating Ajarn Jaquie as if she were to have been being a troll, but it's a slow news day.

[ajarnjacquie]

Thanks for helping with the M6 survey!! I have already explained to my students, that falangs are very sensitive about their qualifications or non-qualifications at the moment!!!

Jaquelyn, my dear, I'm sure that many Thai ajarns with degrees in education from Thatalottafufu Rajabat are sensitive about their qualifications, too, since most of them can't pass their students' own tests, according to a report from the Thai Ministry of Education.

Yes, in a perfect bunny Foo Foo world, it would be supercalifragilistic for Thailand's native speaking teachers of English to all have proper degrees in education, all properly licensed after successfully completing a professionally supervised practicum, police check, etc. - at which the starting salary is at least 110,000 baht per month, with annual and sick leave, pensions, tax saving plans, real medical insurance, etc. It ain't gonna happen in Thailand.

The students in M6 did a survey. Would that have been a statistical questionaire, scientifically written and statistically sound, with proper parameters? Or was it little more than a brief online inquiry, and some half-English questions to a few of their local TEFLers during lunch break?

Okay, let's keep this topic open for a day or so, and let people give opinions.

Thank you for your wonderful opinions on all Thai taching staff - it certainly verifies their opinions on falangs. Thanks also for leaving it open for a couple of days as this is a class topic set by a native english speaking country university graduate that just happens to be a Thai.

Cheers and best of health to all!!!

I believe that to teach up to M4 in most govt. schools in Thailand, just to teach conversational English or speaking and listening, little more than a secondary certificate, a TEFL course certificate, and a solid interview in Thailand, are needed to let students know how native speakers clearly speak proper English. To teach serious advanced English (above intermediate level), including grammar and literature and using advanced pedagogical methods, requires a bachelor's degree that majored both in English language and in education. To teach at Chula, who knows.

Most of the teaching of English as a second/foreign language in Thailand is done by Thais who can't speak or write English clearly, and by farang with varying qualifications.

Oh, a real international school, and a serious bilingual school, even some EP schools, need native speaking TEFL teachers somewhere inbetween the other levels I've mentioned, in my opinion.

Whatcha really think, Jacquie? If I have a real BA, and the govt. trusted me to write official letters to members of Parliament, and if the armed forces trusted me to teach applied courses relating to aviation physiology, and I have a real TEFL certificate, and I really taught full time in matayom schools for two years - do I really need a B.Ed. and a DELTA to earn less than 32,000 baht per month in a govt. matayom school?

Note to Dan Sai Kid and others: yes, I am treating Ajarn Jaquie as if she were to have been being a troll, but it's a slow news day.

[ajarnjacquie]

Thank you for your wonderful opinions on all Thai taching staff - it certainly verifies their opinions on falangs. Thanks also for leaving it open for a couple of days as this is a class topic set by a native english speaking country university graduate that just happens to be a Thai.

Cheers and best of health to all!!!

[The Dan Sai Kid]

Thanks for helping with the M6 survey!! I have already explained to my students, that falangs are very sensitive about their qualifications or non-qualifications at the moment!!!

Jaquelyn, my dear, I'm sure that many Thai ajarns with degrees in education from Thatalottafufu Rajabat are sensitive about their qualifications, too, since most of them can't pass their students' own tests, according to a report from the Thai Ministry of Education.

Yes, in a perfect bunny Foo Foo world, it would be supercalifragilistic for Thailand's native speaking teachers of English to all have proper degrees in education, all properly licensed after successfully completing a professionally supervised practicum, police check, etc. - at which the starting salary is at least 110,000 baht per month, with annual and sick leave, pensions, tax saving plans, real medical insurance, etc. It ain't gonna happen in Thailand.

The students in M6 did a survey. Would that have been a statistical questionaire, scientifically written and statistically sound, with proper parameters? Or was it little more than a brief online inquiry, and some half-English questions to a few of their local TEFLers during lunch break?

Okay, let's keep this topic open for a day or so, and let people give opinions.

Thank you for your wonderful opinions on all Thai taching staff - it certainly verifies their opinions on falangs. Thanks also for leaving it open for a couple of days as this is a class topic set by a native english speaking country university graduate that just happens to be a Thai.

Cheers and best of health to all!!!

I believe that to teach up to M4 in most govt. schools in Thailand, just to teach conversational English or speaking and listening, little more than a secondary certificate, a TEFL course certificate, and a solid interview in Thailand, are needed to let students know how native speakers clearly speak proper English. To teach serious advanced English (above intermediate level), including grammar and literature and using advanced pedagogical methods, requires a bachelor's degree that majored both in English language and in education. To teach at Chula, who knows.

Most of the teaching of English as a second/foreign language in Thailand is done by Thais who can't speak or write English clearly, and by farang with varying qualifications.

Oh, a real international school, and a serious bilingual school, even some EP schools, need native speaking TEFL teachers somewhere inbetween the other levels I've mentioned, in my opinion.

Whatcha really think, Jacquie? If I have a real BA, and the govt. trusted me to write official letters to members of Parliament, and if the armed forces trusted me to teach applied courses relating to aviation physiology, and I have a real TEFL certificate, and I really taught full time in matayom schools for two years - do I really need a B.Ed. and a DELTA to earn less than 32,000 baht per month in a govt. matayom school?

Note to Dan Sai Kid and others: yes, I am treating Ajarn Jaquie as if she were to have been being a troll, but it's a slow news day.

EDIT: I think that I object to a generalisation of foreign teachers in Thailand.

Edited November 29, 2006 by The Dan Sai Kid

[Ijustwannateach]

(country grampa voice): Iffen I doan understan' more about this hyar thread the next time I reads it, it's agoan in the bin, thar!

"Steven"

[Loaded]

Thank you for your wonderful opinions on all Thai taching staff - it certainly verifies their opinions on falangs. Thanks also for leaving it open for a couple of days as this is a class topic set by a native english speaking country university graduate that just happens to be a Thai.

Cheers and best of health to all!!!

After just reading the only post that you could possibly be referring to (PB's), I'm sort of shocked that you (Aj. Jack eeee) would make comments that expose you as a complete idiot. I hope your students are reading, but unfortunately I think you may in fact be a troll named Susan/smeg.

[Ijustwannateach]

Ok, I think this thread has had enough.