nontabury Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On December 27, 2016 at 9:18 AM, scorecard said: Not true, the ball has started to roll, and be honest it will take years and even decades to achieve any massive impact and reduction. How long did it take Singapore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2016/09/06/yellowshirt-leader-sondhi-jailed-20-years-fraud/ There are other high profile cases but I am too tired to go after all of them. Fact remains many people have been jailed for fraud..corruption and so on far more as under YL. Not to mention that YL with her amnesty wanted 20.000 corruption cases to go away. So its quite easy to say more has been done because under YL they were going backwards. As long as he allows those in power to be corrupt, and for the police to remain corrupt, it enables the whole system to be corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 1 hour ago, nontabury said: How long did it take Singapore? "The late Singapore leader Lee Kuan Yew “was very effective in both signalling a zero-tolerance policy towards corruption and building competent institutions at a time when corruption was pervasive in Singapore,” Christine Lagarde. Before you take time as a factor in fighting corruption, you need to have a leader in that has the political will, desire, drive and be exemplary in his conduct. You also need the population behind your vision. Sadly all those elements are missing in this junta government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/27/2016 at 1:23 PM, billd766 said: How long do you think it takes in Thailand to bring a court case? The courts are still dealing with cases from when Thaksin was in power and that was 10 years ago. Firstly a complaint has to be laid with the police They investigate it to see if it is possible to bring to bring it to the court.. Next the police have to collect all the evidence and agree that the prosecution will succeed. Next is the longest and hardest bit as the police have to prove to the courts that the perpetrator is guilty and the perp is allowed to bring as many witnesses to court as he likes (just like Yingluck) and if he is found guilty then the judges make a ruling. Next his lawyer will appeal to the next level of court and ask for bail. That can takes several years and if that court upholds the lower court verdict his lawyer will appeal to the Supreme court which will take years more. That also assumes that witnesses for the prosecution don't die of old age, forget their testimony, get sick or are nobbled in any way or the statute of limitations runs out. But first of course someone has to file the complaint. The timeline is anywhere between 2 and 15 years at a guess. A well laid out piece sooo I gave you a like. Its refreshing to read well laid out make sense pieces. Rare. It readable from beginning to end. You must have been Jimmy Olsen's sidekick in another life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/27/2016 at 1:23 PM, billd766 said: How long do you think it takes in Thailand to bring a court case? The courts are still dealing with cases from when Thaksin was in power and that was 10 years ago. Firstly a complaint has to be laid with the police They investigate it to see if it is possible to bring to bring it to the court.. Next the police have to collect all the evidence and agree that the prosecution will succeed. Next is the longest and hardest bit as the police have to prove to the courts that the perpetrator is guilty and the perp is allowed to bring as many witnesses to court as he likes (just like Yingluck) and if he is found guilty then the judges make a ruling. Next his lawyer will appeal to the next level of court and ask for bail. That can takes several years and if that court upholds the lower court verdict his lawyer will appeal to the Supreme court which will take years more. That also assumes that witnesses for the prosecution don't die of old age, forget their testimony, get sick or are nobbled in any way or the statute of limitations runs out. But first of course someone has to file the complaint. The timeline is anywhere between 2 and 15 years at a guess. A well laid out piece sooo I gave you a like. Its refreshing to read well laid out make sense pieces. Rare. It readable from beginning to end. You must have been Jimmy Olsen's sidekick in another life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: "The late Singapore leader Lee Kuan Yew “was very effective in both signalling a zero-tolerance policy towards corruption and building competent institutions at a time when corruption was pervasive in Singapore,” Christine Lagarde. Before you take time as a factor in fighting corruption, you need to have a leader in that has the political will, desire, drive and be exemplary in his conduct. You also need the population behind your vision. Sadly all those elements are missing in this junta government. Were they present in any elected government of the last 20 years? If they were, I for one must have missed it. Were and are the population of Thailand behind every government that was fighting corruption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 41 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: A well laid out piece sooo I gave you a like. Its refreshing to read well laid out make sense pieces. Rare. It readable from beginning to end. You must have been Jimmy Olsen's sidekick in another life. Thank you kindly, young man, he said blushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 1 minute ago, billd766 said: Thank you kindly, young man, he said blushing. Do you want to do a rock paper scissor on age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 1 minute ago, elgordo38 said: Do you want to do a rock paper scissor on age? Not really, thank you, as I usually lose to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 On 12/27/2016 at 6:04 AM, Thechook said: When we purchased our block it came with a number, we had our address prior to building commencing. How did he register the land without a lot number? Shut up. Logic has nothing to do with any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandemara Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I thought the original report said that a structure (house) existed on the block and the General had organised construction work for extensions; it is not a 'new' house being built on an empty lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Their self-proclaimed amnesty was a very wise move. Looking forward to all the new scandals in 2017 and the "election" Happy new year to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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