Refugees in Greece and Serbia forced to endure sub-zero temperatures

[Shawn0000]

4 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

Yes that would be true in any other country other than the UK.

Just proves how looney liberal laws have almost destroyed the UK.



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Keep dreaming, the UK is not unique, immigration is not even high by EU standards, British people are loosing jobs to immigrants because they don't put themselves out and for no other reason.  If the only way you can get the job is by banning the competition then it is clear you weren't the best man for the job.

[Shawn0000]

1 minute ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

Yep, they believe what they're told by Saudi Arabia, just as the save the planet idiots believe China on emissions.

 

Hahahaha and you didn't just believe the first rag who told you they had taken none?  The truth is the reports that you have listened to are based on the very UN report that concludes they took many refugees, the rags reporters just failed to read the footnotes explaining how refugee numbers are only given for states who are a party to the convention on refugees and that according to the regional UN advisor Saudi did actually have half a million Syrian refugees.  And contrary to your silly assumption, they didn't just automatically believe Saudi that they have taken 2.5 million in the past 5 years, they went with the provable figure of how many were present at that time.  This is all very old news and you really should take the time to set yourself straight, at least you should be embarrassed to keep repeating nonsense that was debunked a year ago.

 

And by the way, if it was not for the "save the planet idiots" you would have no clue about Chinese emissions, you are quite deluded indeed.

[LammyTS1]

 Not sure why you think a nation of the same religion and same culture just "should" take in all the refugees, it makes no sense in my unbigoted mind, we are all people, we can all help. 

So nations with opposite religions & opposite cultures should take these people in? Making them cross continents and many many countries.

Surely we must treat them with respect and not expect them to socialise with people of alien religions & social values?


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[dick dasterdly]

15 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

What I do know is that from a dept of 12 people being closed, 3 kept jobs within the company.

All 3 being immigrants. Why? Well the other 9 were all white. The other 9 all had been working for the company longer, including one for 18 years.

Ask the company you say? Ask an employment tribunal you say? You must be seriously joking. Because of looney liberal laws in the UK, only ethnic minorities prosper whilst white uk citizens are labelled racist. It's unfortunate that the country treats outsiders better than their own, but true.

The problem is that this happened in the UK. If 2 people are equally qualified and experienced to perform the job, the following rules apply:-

White UK man V black man? Black man gets job.

White UK man V Immigrant? Immigrant gets job.

White UK man V ethnic minority? Ethnic minority gets job.

White UK man V White UK woman? White woman gets job.

And the list goes on.

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It probably had more to do with the 3 retained being cheaper to employ?

 

The same as large companies 'reorganising' - which in my experience means downgrading the salary structure.....  It costs the company money in the short term as they have to pay off the older, experienced staff, but they replace them with less experienced staff on lower salaries.

 

Which is why its close to impossible nowadays to talk to someone in a large company that knows what they are talking about.

 

Entirely off topic (for which I apologise), but a couple of DECADES ago I was trying to sort out a direct debit problem on my account - and had to explain how a direct debit works to the bank employee.....

[F4UCorsair]

3 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Hahahaha and you didn't just believe the first rag who told you they had taken none?  The truth is the reports that you have listened to are based on the very UN report that concludes they took many refugees, the rags reporters just failed to read the footnotes explaining how refugee numbers are only given for states who are a party to the convention on refugees and that according to the regional UN advisor Saudi did actually have half a million Syrian refugees.  And contrary to your silly assumption, they didn't just automatically believe Saudi that they have taken 2.5 million in the past 5 years, they went with the provable figure of how many were present at that time.  This is all very old news and you really should take the time to set yourself straight, at least you should be embarrassed to keep repeating nonsense that was debunked a year ago.

 

And by the way, if it was not for the "save the planet idiots" you would have no clue about Chinese emissions, you are quite deluded indeed.

 

 

You are obviously of the left of politics Shawn?   You will believe what you are told, without question.   The Americans had enough of that and that's why they voted Trump.

 

See my earlier post on studies and outcomes.   A consultant will tell the organization commission the study what they want to hear, and will find perfectly logical reasons for doing so......but the logic doesn't really fit.  Organizations like the UN rely on the gullible public not looking further.   Trump has advocated pulling out of the 'useless' UN, because they achieve little to none, and cost a lot.

[dick dasterdly]

15 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Keep dreaming, the UK is not unique, immigration is not even high by EU standards, British people are loosing jobs to immigrants because they don't put themselves out and for no other reason.  If the only way you can get the job is by banning the competition then it is clear you weren't the best man for the job.

 

34 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Agree.  I am not raciest, qualified and skilled people from any country should be able to travel around and apply for the work that is available, and be treated fairly.

 

However, what happens is that unscrupulous employers will exploit immigrants, legal or otherwise.  They will pay them below the minimum wage, make them work 7 days a week, long hours, no sick pay or holiday pay. These people will have to live in substandard, sometimes dangerous disgusting housing, again the employer will use there provided housing to pay them less money.

 

Now some legal immigrants can put up with this for a few years... to same money (which is worth a lot more in their own country) to have the plan to get out eventually.

 

Now no indigenous person in their right mind would endure this kind of work and treatment... not only for the conditions and lack of pay, but because is illegal in immoral.  Its the employers fault here, not the immigrants... but they get blamed for taking jobs off the local people. 

 

 

Jak's post is spot on IMO.

[DM07]

27 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

Yep, they believe what they're told by Saudi Arabia, just as the save the planet idiots believe China on emissions.

And the tin- foil industry provides your numbers and information?!

[Shawn0000]

5 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

So nations with opposite religions & opposite cultures should take these people in? Making them cross continents and many many countries.

Surely we must treat them with respect and not expect them to socialise with people of alien religions & social values?


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Religions do not have opposites, what were you thinking there?  Neither do cultures, its not even that Syria was very different from Europe before the war, they were a liberal country, the people escaping want to live liberal lives.

 

And yes, all countries should take in people in these times of need, regardless of religion and culture, people are people.

 

I am not suggesting making them go anywhere, that would be you.

 

If you knew the first thing about Syria you would know that their social values are more close to ours than to Saudis, they are escaping ISIS who have much more in common with Saudi values than their own.

 

Anyway, your assumption that it would be disrespectful to expect people to socialise with people of differing religions and values is actually very disrespectful.

[LammyTS1]

 
Keep dreaming, the UK is not unique, immigration is not even high by EU standards, British people are loosing jobs to immigrants because they don't put themselves out and for no other reason.  If the only way you can get the job is by banning the competition then it is clear you weren't the best man for the job.

Totally wrong and you know it. Wake up and smell the coffee.

The old adage of immigrants do jobs that locals do not want is completely false. Please do not patronise immigrants this way, they also want jobs that are highly paid with professional vocations.

Thankfully the UK has woken up and now we have Brexit.




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[F4UCorsair]

9 minutes ago, DM07 said:

And the tin- foil industry providesunyour numbers and information?!

 

I'm sorry, you'll have to explain the link with the tin foil Industry.  I don't understand what you're trying to say. 

[LammyTS1]

 
Religions do not have opposites, what were you thinking there?  Neither do cultures, its not even that Syria was very different from Europe before the war, they were a liberal country, the people escaping want to live liberal lives.
 
And yes, all countries should take in people in these times of need, regardless of religion and culture, people are people.
 
I am not suggesting making them go anywhere, that would be you.
 
If you knew the first thing about Syria you would know that their social values are more close to ours than to Saudis, they are escaping ISIS who have much more in common with Saudi values than their own.
 
Anyway, your assumption that it would be disrespectful to expect people to socialise with people of differing religions and values is actually very disrespectful.

So the Syrians are escaping ISIS. And how many ISIS are part of those fleeing Syria into Europe whose sole purpose is to murder innocent citizens?




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[Shawn0000]

12 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

You are obviously of the left of politics Shawn?   You will believe what you are told, without question.   The Americans had enough of that and that's why they voted Trump.

 

See my earlier post on studies and outcomes.   A consultant will tell the organization commission the study what they want to hear, and will find perfectly logical reasons for doing so......but the logic doesn't really fit.  Organizations like the UN rely on the gullible public not looking further.   Trump has advocated pulling out of the 'useless' UN, because they achieve little to none, and cost a lot.

 

Quite an ironic first paragraph.  Trumps supporters have not seen most every pledge he made turn out to be nothing but lies, right?  Oh yeah, they have, because they just believed what they were told without question.

 

Didnt you get what I just said?  The only reason you think Saudi did not take refugees is because the rags did not bother to read the footnotes in the UN report, there is nothing else, there are no other surveys or studies, just that one long debunked tabloid claim based solely on lazy journalism.

 

Now, leaving the UN report aside, please explain exactly how Saudi could have stopped refugees from entering its very long and completely porus borders?  It is completely illogical to assume that no refugees have entered Saudi, it is impossible.

 

The UN achieves little to none?  Oh, and you aren't just believing what you are told without question?  Ever heard of UNICEF, UNESCO, WFP, UNODC, UNEP, World Bank, IMF, WHO, ILO, FAO, IMO, WIPO, ICAO?  The reason Trump wants out is not because of what they don't do but because of what they do do.

[yogi100]

42 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Agree.  I am not raciest, qualified and skilled people from any country should be able to travel around and apply for the work that is available, and be treated fairly.

 

However, what happens is that unscrupulous employers will exploit immigrants, legal or otherwise.  They will pay them below the minimum wage, make them work 7 days a week, long hours, no sick pay or holiday pay. These people will have to live in substandard, sometimes dangerous disgusting housing, again the employer will use there provided housing to pay them less money.

 

Now some legal immigrants can put up with this for a few years... to same money (which is worth a lot more in their own country) to have the plan to get out eventually.

 

Now no indigenous person in their right mind would endure this kind of work and treatment... not only for the conditions and lack of pay, but because is illegal in immoral.  Its the employers fault here, not the immigrants... but they get blamed for taking jobs off the local people. 

 

 

 

But mainly it's the fault of the politicians for allowing such a disgraceful state of affairs to develop in what used to be one of the most advanced and civilised nations in the world.

 

They know that flooding the market with cheap labour = lower wages = bigger profits for the companies. But they don't object to it because it's big business that funds political parties.

 

It's a bit ironic that it was the Labour Party that first raised Cain over the question of imported scab labour. Before WW1 Keir Hardie, the founder of the Labour Party organised rallies and demonstrations when the Scottish coal mine owners started bringing scab labour from Lithuania to work in their mines for lower wages that the local men received. Hardie was praised not just by the miners but by the working men of Britain and became something of a hero because of his stance on the matter.

 

Today he'd be called a racist, a bigot and get thrown out of the party in disgrace just for looking out for his fellow countrymen. How things have changed in the last 100 years.

[Shawn0000]

10 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

Totally wrong and you know it. Wake up and smell the coffee.

The old adage of immigrants do jobs that locals do not want is completely false. Please do not patronise immigrants this way, they also want jobs that are highly paid with professional vocations.

Thankfully the UK has woken up and now we have Brexit.




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I didn't say that though did I?  I said British people lose out through not putting themselves out, which stands true whether it is doing a dirty job or having bothered to study for an applicable qualification.

 

Thankfully no one is daft enough to bring a Brexit without immigration, May has already confirmed that UK employers will be able to recruit from the EU, face it, we would be stuffed without them!

[Shawn0000]

4 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

So the Syrians are escaping ISIS. And how many ISIS are part of those fleeing Syria into Europe whose sole purpose is to murder innocent citizens?




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Clearly not many, 5 million odd refugees and just a few terrorist attacks so far.  But keep helping out ISIS if you want, the only reason they have sent those terrorists is to try to get us to take the attitude you are taking, myself I will not fall for that one and I will do nothing to help ISIS.

[F4UCorsair]

12 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Quite an ironic first paragraph.  Trumps supporters have not seen most every pledge he made turn out to be nothing but lies, right?  Oh yeah, they have, because they just believed what they were told without question.

 

Didnt you get what I just said?  The only reason you think Saudi did not take refugees is because the rags did not bother to read the footnotes in the UN report, there is nothing else, there are no other surveys or studies, just that one long debunked tabloid claim based solely on lazy journalism.

 

Now, leaving the UN report aside, please explain exactly how Saudi could have stopped refugees from entering its very long and completely porus borders?  It is completely illogical to assume that no refugees have entered Saudi, it is impossible.

 

The UN achieves little to none?  Oh, and you aren't just believing what you are told without question?  Ever heard of UNICEF, UNESCO, WFP, UNODC, UNEP, World Bank, IMF, WHO, ILO, FAO, IMO, WIPO, ICAO?  The reason Trump wants out is not because of what they don't do but because of what they do do.

 

12 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Quite an ironic first paragraph.  Trumps supporters have not seen most every pledge he made turn out to be nothing but lies, right?  Oh yeah, they have, because they just believed what they were told without question.

 

Didnt you get what I just said?  The only reason you think Saudi did not take refugees is because the rags did not bother to read the footnotes in the UN report, there is nothing else, there are no other surveys or studies, just that one long debunked tabloid claim based solely on lazy journalism.

 

Now, leaving the UN report aside, please explain exactly how Saudi could have stopped refugees from entering its very long and completely porus borders?  It is completely illogical to assume that no refugees have entered Saudi, it is impossible.

 

The UN achieves little to none?  Oh, and you aren't just believing what you are told without question?  Ever heard of UNICEF, UNESCO, WFP, UNODC, UNEP, World Bank, IMF, WHO, ILO, FAO, IMO, WIPO, ICAO?  The reason Trump wants out is not because of what they don't do but because of what they do do.

 

Shawn, you seem like the kind of person who MUST have the last word.....so you may.

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[Shawn0000]

11 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

Shawn, you seem like the kind of person who MUST have the last word.....so you may.

 

If you had an arguement I would hear it.

[Shawn0000]

24 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

But mainly it's the fault of the politicians for allowing such a disgraceful state of affairs to develop in what used to be one of the most advanced and civilised nations in the world.

 

They know that flooding the market with cheap labour = lower wages = bigger profits for the companies. But they don't object to it because it's big business that funds political parties.

 

It's a bit ironic that it was the Labour Party that first raised Cain over the question of imported scab labour. Before WW1 Keir Hardie, the founder of the Labour Party organised rallies and demonstrations when the Scottish coal mine owners started bringing scab labour from Lithuania to work in their mines for lower wages that the local men received. Hardie was praised not just by the miners but by the working men of Britain and became something of a hero because of his stance on the matter.

 

Today he'd be called a racist, a bigot and get thrown out of the party in disgrace just for looking out for his fellow countrymen. How things have changed in the last 100 years.

 

For his choice of wording perhaps, but Labour are today concerned with British people's jobs, their leader supports Brexit and also does not support open borders, so no real change there.  I prefer the holistic approach of the LibDems, to put an end to mass migration through tackling global inequality, something the EU is doing a fine job of doing within Europe, the sooner we are all on a par the sooner we will see an end to inter Europe migration.

[dick dasterdly]

4 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

If you had an arguement I would hear it.

Except you do nothing of the sort.

 

Perhaps I've missed your response to the following posts?

1 hour ago, jak2002003 said:

Agree.  I am not raciest, qualified and skilled people from any country should be able to travel around and apply for the work that is available, and be treated fairly.

 

However, what happens is that unscrupulous employers will exploit immigrants, legal or otherwise.  They will pay them below the minimum wage, make them work 7 days a week, long hours, no sick pay or holiday pay. These people will have to live in substandard, sometimes dangerous disgusting housing, again the employer will use there provided housing to pay them less money.

 

Now some legal immigrants can put up with this for a few years... to same money (which is worth a lot more in their own country) to have the plan to get out eventually.

 

Now no indigenous person in their right mind would endure this kind of work and treatment... not only for the conditions and lack of pay, but because is illegal in immoral.  Its the employers fault here, not the immigrants... but they get blamed for taking jobs off the local people. 

 

 

 

29 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

But mainly it's the fault of the politicians for allowing such a disgraceful state of affairs to develop in what used to be one of the most advanced and civilised nations in the world.

 

They know that flooding the market with cheap labour = lower wages = bigger profits for the companies. But they don't object to it because it's big business that funds political parties.

 

It's a bit ironic that it was the Labour Party that first raised Cain over the question of imported scab labour. Before WW1 Keir Hardie, the founder of the Labour Party organised rallies and demonstrations when the Scottish coal mine owners started bringing scab labour from Lithuania to work in their mines for lower wages that the local men received. Hardie was praised not just by the miners but by the working men of Britain and became something of a hero because of his stance on the matter.

 

Today he'd be called a racist, a bigot and get thrown out of the party in disgrace just for looking out for his fellow countrymen. How things have changed in the last 100 years.

 

[dick dasterdly]

40 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

But mainly it's the fault of the politicians for allowing such a disgraceful state of affairs to develop in what used to be one of the most advanced and civilised nations in the world.

 

They know that flooding the market with cheap labour = lower wages = bigger profits for the companies. But they don't object to it because it's big business that funds political parties.

 

It's a bit ironic that it was the Labour Party that first raised Cain over the question of imported scab labour. Before WW1 Keir Hardie, the founder of the Labour Party organised rallies and demonstrations when the Scottish coal mine owners started bringing scab labour from Lithuania to work in their mines for lower wages that the local men received. Hardie was praised not just by the miners but by the working men of Britain and became something of a hero because of his stance on the matter.

 

Today he'd be called a racist, a bigot and get thrown out of the party in disgrace just for looking out for his fellow countrymen. How things have changed in the last 100 years.

 

11 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

For his choice of wording perhaps, but Labour are today concerned with British people's jobs, their leader supports Brexit and also does not support open borders, so no real change there.  I prefer the holistic approach of the LibDems, to put an end to mass migration through tackling global inequality, something the EU is doing a fine job of doing within Europe, the sooner we are all on a par the sooner we will see an end to inter Europe migration.

That doesn't answer any of Yogi's post!

 

At the end of the day it seems that you believe that the poor/lower paid/average paid workers benefit from (edit- uncontrolled) immigration, whilst some of us believe only the wealthy benefit.

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[Shawn0000]

6 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Except you do nothing of the sort.

 

Perhaps I've missed your response to the following posts?

 

 

 

The first, I did not feel the need to respond, they do make a valid point but not one that goes against anything I have said, so I did not respond, is that ok with you?  The second I did respond to, you will find my response above.

 

Now, do you yourself have anything you would like to talk about or do you just want to make sure I respond to other people's posts?  Crazy stuff mate!

[Shawn0000]

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

 

That doesn't answer any of Yogi's post!

 

At the end of the day it seems that you believe that the poor/lower paid/average paid workers benefit from immigration, whilst some of us believe only the wealthy benefit.

 

Yogididnt ask any questions, why do expect answers?  Lol

 

what I did do was counter their claim that there was some irony to be found, did you miss that?

 

No idea where you are coming from with the last bit, you just made all that up, I have not said or implied anything of the sort.

[dick dasterdly]

OK.  There are times when trying to discuss things is pointless.  This is one of them .

[LammyTS1]

 
I didn't say that though did I?  I said British people lose out through not putting themselves out, which stands true whether it is doing a dirty job or having bothered to study for an applicable qualification.
 
Thankfully no one is daft enough to bring a Brexit without immigration, May has already confirmed that UK employers will be able to recruit from the EU, face it, we would be stuffed without them!

You are profiling all British citizens that way? They are lazy? If you like to racially profile people then please give me your opinions on others?

Inconvenienced without immigrants yes. The small number that we require, do help the UK.

Unfortunately due to mass uncontrolled migration, we are overrun with migrants taking jobs from UK citizens whether that be lawyers, accountants or lower income jobs that UK students now find hard to obtain meaning they are now heavily in debt just to receive an education.





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[Shawn0000]

6 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

You are profiling all British citizens that way? They are lazy? If you like to racially profile people then please give me your opinions on others?

Inconvenienced without immigrants yes. The small number that we require, do help the UK.

Unfortunately due to mass uncontrolled migration, we are overrun with migrants taking jobs from UK citizens whether that be lawyers, accountants or lower income jobs that UK students now find hard to obtain meaning they are now heavily in debt just to receive an education.





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You fail to understand racial profiling, criticising a portion of a nation who are unemployable has nothing to do with race, obviously.

 

The small number such as the 120,000 who work in the NHS?  Or the 80% of the total of seasonal jobs that they cover?  The truth is, it is not a small number who we need, it is almost all of them.

 

So, please explain exactly how someone "takes" your job, either you are the best candidate or not, one can only assume that the immigrants are putting themselves out more, talk to any employer and they will confirm this.

[LammyTS1]

 
Clearly not many, 5 million odd refugees and just a few terrorist attacks so far.  But keep helping out ISIS if you want, the only reason they have sent those terrorists is to try to get us to take the attitude you are taking, myself I will not fall for that one and I will do nothing to help ISIS.

5m odd refugees in Europe? Where did you get that figure from?

In 2014 there were around 250,000 to 300,000 economic migrants(or refugees that you like to call them) that came into Europe.

In 2015 this figure increased by 300% to about 1,000,000.

Unsure when the 2016 figures will be released but may be quite frightening. You could be right, 5,000,000?

Is it any wonder then why we are seeing the proliferation of ISIS attacks and the regular murder of hundreds of innocent people in Europe!

Will do nothing to help ISIS? You already do dear boy by approving of the influx of terrorists(amongst the economic migrants) into Europe.


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[LammyTS1]

 
You fail to understand racial profiling, criticising a portion of a nation who are unemployable has nothing to do with race, obviously.
 
The small number such as the 120,000 who work in the NHS?  Or the 80% of the total of seasonal jobs that they cover?  The truth is, it is not a small number who we need, it is almost all of them.
 
So, please explain exactly how someone "takes" your job, either you are the best candidate or not, one can only assume that the immigrants are putting themselves out more, talk to any employer and they will confirm this.

Your 1st paragraph:- so by the same reasoning you would state that most North Africans are economic migrants. Most Muslims are terrorists?

2nd paragraph:- Mostly jobs that UK students can do and want to do but cannot due to immigrants.

3rd paragraph:- Firstly employers have to fulfil their employment quotas of minority groups. Talk to any employer, they will confirm this. Secondly they want to hire immigrants on lower wages . Talk to any employer, they will......oh wait a minute, maybe not.



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[Shawn0000]

11 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

5m odd refugees in Europe? Where did you get that figure from?

In 2014 there were around 250,000 to 300,000 economic migrants(or refugees that you like to call them) that came into Europe.

In 2015 this figure increased by 300% to about 1,000,000.

Unsure when the 2016 figures will be released but may be quite frightening. You could be right, 5,000,000?

Is it any wonder then why we are seeing the proliferation of ISIS attacks and the regular murder of hundreds of innocent people in Europe!

Will do nothing to help ISIS? You already do dear boy by approving of the influx of terrorists(amongst the economic migrants) into Europe.


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Who said they were in Europe?  Not me!  The suggestion was first that Saudi should take them all, and then that the US should take them all, nothing about where they happen to be at the moment, what would what continent they are in have to do with who should take them?

 

The ISIS attacks are in attempt to create fear of genuine refugees and halt their embarrassment of having their people walk out on them, it is only the likes of you who are helping them.

 

Calling people who are fleeing a war economic migrants is not only factually incorrect but also demonstrates a shameful lack of humanity, I don't suppose you would know much about that though!

[Shawn0000]

4 minutes ago, LammyTS1 said:

 

Your 1st paragraph:- so by the same reasoning you would state that most North Africans are economic migrants. Most Muslims are terrorists?

2nd paragraph:- Mostly jobs that UK students can do and want to do but cannot due to immigrants.

3rd paragraph:- Firstly employers have to fulfil their employment quotas of minority groups. Talk to any employer, they will confirm this. Secondly they want to hire immigrants on lower wages . Talk to any employer, they will......oh wait a minute, maybe not.



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If I had of said "most British people" you would have had a point, but as I didn't, and in fact did not generalise on British people as a whole, then you have no point at all, your desperation is leading to you writing utter nonsense, give it a rest.

 

Nothing stopping a U.K. Student applying for the job, other than not being able to compete for whatever reason with the immigrants, now what reason could that be?  And you are of course wrongly assuming that the seasonal work is during the summer when most of it is in the Autumn, perhaps you have never even noticed what season fruit and veg are ready to be picked!

 

Having been a UK employer I can assure you I was not given a minority quota, not that there are not unemployed minorities in the U.K.?  Right?  Lol, how daft can you get, and we have a minimum wage, they can pay that to an immigrant or a British citizen the same, but it is the immigrants who apply and the immigrants who get the job while the British unemployed do nothing to change their situation except moan about immigrants.

[yogi100]

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

OK.  There are times when trying to discuss things is pointless.  This is one of them .

 

There are those who hates their own kind Dick. They'll always take the side of a member of any ethnic minority, immigrant or an asylum seeker each and every time no matter what the issue. They're what's described as self haters. I don't know what makes them tick unless it's because they were bullied at school like Ken Livingstone.

 

Nationalism to them is a dirty word yet they never the less see fit to visit a country that regularly deports Burmese, Laotian and Cambodian nationals who arrive in the LOS seeking work and a better life. They even towed a boat lacking any means of propulsion full of Burmese out into open waters and left them at the mercy of the elements a few years back.

 

No way would I patronise an Islamic nation because of the way they often treat women, homosexuals and non Muslims and even their fellow Muslims yet many on the left have no qualms nor hesitation when it comes to spending money in a country that must be an anathema to them, something that should be detested or shunned, a country that is so nationalistic that it accepts no immigrants at all. Run out of cash or fail to get the right visa and out you go even if you have sired a child with a Thai woman!