Thonburi-Namtok train delayed after a paper box with a bomb inside placed on the track of the River Kwai bridge

[farcanell]

5 minutes ago, madusa said:

Oh, that's no good, he is a wvnker, I was hoping to hear some story on this Colonel Nicholson. Another disappointment. If I file up disappointment it would fill up my small bed room with boxes full of them.

 

Lol... cut away... kick it to the curb

[madusa]

16 hours ago, farcanell said:

 

Lol... cut away... kick it to the curb

I lived in quite a few foreign countries in my life & put up with the disappointments but Thailand is one country that you keep coming back for more. Amazing Thailand the advertisement says.

[Bantex]

8 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Just to clarify:
Throw the hand grenade or the pin into river ?


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Keep hold of the grenade and pin but throw the box it was found in into to river!

[SOTIRIOS]

...wow...

 

...lucky someone spotted it....

 

...not comforting that someone easily (?) did this...

 

...no security...surveillance cameras....???

[bangrak]

The OP: '...a bomb...', the reality: a M26 grenade? Both explosive devices no doubt, but so much more 'catchy' to write 'a bomb', isn't it? ...While at the time the 'reporter' wrote his piece, it was visibly already clear it was, just, a grenade...

Not saying a grenade (especially an old rusty one the fuse of might have been affected by age and weather conditions) isn't a dangerous item, nor that Thai trains need much to go off track, but, please, Thai 'reporters', and other people making money with media, can you, really, really, not put things into context, ...and avoid sensationalism?! Thai readers in general are far from 'ripe' enough to judge of the real value of 'tabloid' content, like in the UK, a first world country, you know!

Creating or propagating fear and panic should be considered a crime, IMO!

P.S.: So it seems the explosive specialists here don't have the special 'boxes' wherein smaller devices can be safely detonated, brave men they are (or don't they know better?) when I see how they are 'equipped' (or rather not!) to do their dangerous job... Mai pen rai, I guess, they are not big brass office-bred officers, just canon fodder. And I forgot about the so-called explosive detector, our now PM, the army chief then, said of it was working well... TiT, again, and again...

Edited January 21, 2017 by bangrak

[ratcatcher]

15 minutes ago, bangrak said:

The OP: '...a bomb...', the reality: a M26 grenade? Both explosive devices no doubt, but so much more 'catchy' to write 'a bomb', isn't it? ...While at the time the 'reporter' wrote his piece, it was visibly already clear it was, just, a grenade...

Not saying a grenade (especially an old rusty one the fuse of might have been affected by age and weather conditions) isn't a dangerous item, nor that Thai trains need much to go off track, but, please, Thai 'reporters', and other people making money with media, can you, really, really, not put things into context, ...and avoid sensationalism?! Thai readers in general are far from 'ripe' enough to judge of the real value of 'tabloid' content, like in the UK, a first world country, you know!

Creating or propagating fear and panic should be considered a crime, IMO!

P.S.: So it seems the explosive specialists here don't have the special 'boxes' wherein smaller devices can be safely detonated, brave men they are (or don't they know better?) when I see how they are 'equipped' (or rather not!) to do their dangerous job... Mai pen rai, I guess, they are not big brass office-bred officers, just canon fodder. And I forgot about the so-called explosive detector, our now PM, the army chief then, said of it was working well... TiT, again, and again...

That was a good post BUT the reality is that "  A grenade is a small bomb typically thrown by hand." wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenade

Had the device been discovered by small children, it would have possibly been capable of causing serious damage.

 

[bangrak]

50 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

That was a good post BUT the reality is that "  A grenade is a small bomb typically thrown by hand." wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenade

Had the device been discovered by small children, it would have possibly been capable of causing serious damage.

 

You 'ratcatcher', quoting wikipedia, I am devastated, after nearly 20,000 posts, oh my, nothing's sacred anymore, and I, me, I admired you so much, sob, sob

P.S.: Did you check what the wiki shop said about 'explosive device'? Something about bombs and grenades, I guess?

Wiki is there for people who don't know anything about something, the information they get mostly as valuable in essence as asking three different Thais about the road to follow to get to your destination, one could be the right one, but which one, LOL Please, never forget wiki is a compilation of informations provided by free contributors, whose capacity(!) to comment about the subject is not, will not be, evaluated...

P.S.2: I'm actually quite ashamed Brittons go on calling me 'Mr. Wiki' here, when I would know who started it...

[farcanell]

13 minutes ago, bangrak said:

You 'ratcatcher', quoting wikipedia, I am devastated, after nearly 20,000 posts, oh my, nothing's sacred anymore, and I, me, I admired you so much, sob, sob

P.S.: Did you check what the wiki shop said about 'explosive device'? Something about bombs and grenades, I guess?

Wiki is there for people who don't know anything about something, the information they get mostly as valuable in essence as asking three different Thais about the road to follow to get to your destination, one could be the right one, but which one, LOL Please, never forget wiki is a compilation of informations provided by free contributors, whose capacity(!) to comment about the subject is not, will not be, evaluated...

P.S.2: I'm actually quite ashamed Brittons go on calling me 'Mr. Wiki' here, when I would know who started it...

 

What a funny summation of wiki.... a living compendium made up of the knowledge of the sum of us ( yes... sure... weed thru... but essentially the sum of us)... you do see that bibliography notations are marked, right, directing you to studies, old texts, manuals etc etc, such that you can educate yourself, verses relying on the words of teachers and professors, who may have a dubious claim to their own title

 

and then you have such tools as dictionaries... Websters for example, originally written by Noah Webster, a language reformist, who went ahead and altered the English written language, to suit his own agenda... his capacity to comment on the subject is dubious, and open to evaluation

 

oops... weighted, measured and found wanting... the Pratt couldn't spell!

 

passing strange... but each to his own, I suppose...???

 

 

[Shawn0000]

45 minutes ago, bangrak said:

You 'ratcatcher', quoting wikipedia, I am devastated, after nearly 20,000 posts, oh my, nothing's sacred anymore, and I, me, I admired you so much, sob, sob

P.S.: Did you check what the wiki shop said about 'explosive device'? Something about bombs and grenades, I guess?

Wiki is there for people who don't know anything about something, the information they get mostly as valuable in essence as asking three different Thais about the road to follow to get to your destination, one could be the right one, but which one, LOL Please, never forget wiki is a compilation of informations provided by free contributors, whose capacity(!) to comment about the subject is not, will not be, evaluated...

P.S.2: I'm actually quite ashamed Brittons go on calling me 'Mr. Wiki' here, when I would know who started it...

 

You have no idea what you are talking about, wiki has been evaluated for its accuracy in controlled studies by universities and has proven to be just as accurate as the encyclopaedia britannica, the people who post are evaluated, it functions like a forum with people evaluating each other's posts, the result being very accurate indeed. By all means dismiss it, but the reality is it is the largest and best single resource of information available.

[Shawn0000]

20 minutes ago, farcanell said:

 

What a funny summation of wiki.... a living compendium made up of the knowledge of the sum of us ( yes... sure... weed thru... but essentially the sum of us)... you do see that bibliography notations are marked, right, directing you to studies, old texts, manuals etc etc, such that you can educate yourself, verses relying on the words of teachers and professors, who may have a dubious claim to their own title

 

and then you have such tools as dictionaries... Websters for example, originally written by Noah Webster, a language reformist, who went ahead and altered the English written language, to suit his own agenda... his capacity to comment on the subject is dubious, and open to evaluation

 

oops... weighted, measured and found wanting... the Pratt couldn't spell!

 

passing strange... but each to his own, I suppose...???

 

 

 

Although you are correct in your criticisms of the dismissal of wiki, Websters alterations of spellings were mostly based on the way Americans were spelling at the time, he merely tried to get with the times, although he did also include some of his own, but those were mostly rejected later and replaced with the British English versions.

[farcanell]

29 minutes ago, Shawn0000 said:

 

Although you are correct in your criticisms of the dismissal of wiki, Websters alterations of spellings were mostly based on the way Americans were spelling at the time, he merely tried to get with the times, although he did also include some of his own, but those were mostly rejected later and replaced with the British English versions.

 That's right, that's very right.

 

americans were making up spelling as they went along, changing the kings english, (probably due to a lack of education) and, for example, were writing phonetically, which was incorrect , but Webster used this spelling style anyway

 

However, to be fair, this arguably made "spelling" easier.... which, ironically, made understanding of the language easier, and probably had the overall effect of improving education for all English speakers.

 

languages evolve over time.... words change... I get that, and accept that... I was simply using the example of a dictionary, written (incorrectly at the time, and origionally condemned ) by one man, as a counter to deriding wiki, which is the compiled knowledge of us all, and therefore a much better education tool.

 

That said.... our knowledge of the past, present and future is ever changing..... so there will never be a definitive source of knowledge.

 

 

[whaleboneman]

After reading this entire post, I have come to realize that there are two types of people: those with a sense of humour and those without.

Seriously though, where I come from, if an explosive device was found on a train bridge, the bridge would not be opened an hour later.

[Shawn0000]

10 hours ago, farcanell said:

 That's right, that's very right.

 

americans were making up spelling as they went along, changing the kings english, (probably due to a lack of education) and, for example, were writing phonetically, which was incorrect , but Webster used this spelling style anyway

 

However, to be fair, this arguably made "spelling" easier.... which, ironically, made understanding of the language easier, and probably had the overall effect of improving education for all English speakers.

 

languages evolve over time.... words change... I get that, and accept that... I was simply using the example of a dictionary, written (incorrectly at the time, and origionally condemned ) by one man, as a counter to deriding wiki, which is the compiled knowledge of us all, and therefore a much better education tool.

 

That said.... our knowledge of the past, present and future is ever changing..... so there will never be a definitive source of knowledge.

 

 

 

It is true that the past, present and future is ever changing preventing a definitive source, which is what is so much better about a forum based source such as wiki, whereas a print based encyclopedia is out of date before it leaves the print press, wiki is editable, it really is the best we have, and I know that you know that already.

[akirasan]

A still life grenade hey?  

[Kan Win]

On ‎21‎/‎01‎/‎2017 at 4:43 AM, Basil B said:

 

Could have reduced the 1 hour delay by:

• Stand on the side of the bridge
• Check the river is clear of boats and swimmers
• Hold grenade, squeezing the safety leaver with one hand
• Pull the safety pin out with the other hand
• Throw in to river (remember to let go when throwing)

 

 

 

 

 

Win

[Basil B]

On 21/01/2017 at 4:01 AM, Andrew Dwyer said:

Just to clarify:
Throw the hand grenade or the pin into river ?


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Give Darwinism a chance...  

[radiochaser]

On 1/21/2017 at 2:02 AM, Khon Kaen Dave said:

I have collated  all the names of the op's that recommend ways of exploding this device.You all seem very well in the know about explosives.

I have this day sent the names to the Thai anti terrorist squad,the DSI,and that other place,'inactive post' I am sure they will be pleased to visit you all.

No need to thank me,gentlemen.

You didn't get me!!





Oh crap!

 

[radiochaser]

On 1/20/2017 at 4:43 PM, Basil B said:

 

Could have reduced the 1 hour delay by:

• Stand on the side of the bridge
• Check the river is clear of boats and swimmers
• Hold grenade, squeezing the safety leaver with one hand
• Pull the safety pin out with the other hand
• Throw in to river (remember to let go when throwing)

 

 

 

What about the safety clip?

 

[Khon Kaen Dave]

radiochaser

Damn and blast,but the day is young.Would you kindly send me your name and address,and bank details so you are able to claim the 1,000,000 baht that has been put into an account for you.

please send the details to

Ngmbe Botswana.CEO. Harare National Bank.

Thank you.

[fruitman]

Oh just a grenade on a bridge where the touristtrain like to pass...who cares? We'll put a camera on that bridge and problem solved.

 

Yes somebody left it there....probably he got tired of carrying it...so yes just dump it on the track. mai pen lai...next

[Andrew Dwyer]

Well I'm making my protest !!


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[gregk0543]

"-----Police said they believed the owner if the grenade left the box on the track to avoid being searched.

They ruled out it was an attempt to sabotage the rail track as it was only a hand grenade. ------"

 

Thai police were thinking out loud?  Did they find it from a tip off? 

Doesnt not appear to me as  either of these are reasonable to assume.

 

If you leave a grenade on a railway track maybe you are hoping that the train will run it down and detonate it and derail the train and bring down the bridge and maim and kill to boot.  Seems just as plausible to me? 

 

But we would not want to scare tourists would we?

[ezrider62]

On 1/21/2017 at 4:43 AM, Basil B said:

 

Could have reduced the 1 hour delay by:

• Stand on the side of the bridge
• Check the river is clear of boats and swimmers
• Hold grenade, squeezing the safety leaver with one hand
• Pull the safety pin out with the other hand
• Throw in to river (remember to let go when throwing)

 

 

 

Yeah, they could call on you next time!