what happens when one gets denied entrance in Poipet?

[AlexDorneles]

What happens when one gets denied entrance into Thailand at the poipet border? Does the person gets stuck in no mans land or Cambodia will allow a re-entry without going into Thailand? Also if denied does immigration stamp your passport with remarks or it is just a verbal denial?

Edited March 27, 2017 by AlexDorneles

[somethingnice]

Normally they will turn you back, and then cancel your exit, stamp, like if you never left in the first place, which you technical didn't.

 

It will depend in the Thai IO if they will put a denial stamp in your passport or not.

 

[JackThompson]

2 hours ago, somethingnice said:

Normally they will turn you back, and then cancel your exit, stamp, like if you never left in the first place, which you technical didn't.

 

It will depend in the Thai IO if they will put a denial stamp in your passport or not.

 

Agree on the first part.  But they would likely only give you a denial stamp if you insist on appealing to a supervisor - perhaps not even then.  I don't recall reading any reports of anyone getting a denial-stamp for a land-border rejection - but someone please chime in if I missed it.

[overherebc]

7 hours ago, JackThompson said:

Agree on the first part.  But they would likely only give you a denial stamp if you insist on appealing to a supervisor - perhaps not even then.  I don't recall reading any reports of anyone getting a denial-stamp for a land-border rejection - but someone please chime in if I missed it.

I would agree with you.

A couple of times I've seen people turned back because they didn't have the Cambo' stamps, either didn't know or bother, trying to do a sneaky to save time.

Nothing stamped, just told to go back to the border. 

Paying for another visa and saying you just decided to change your mind and spend a few days in Cambo' would probably be accepted as ok.

[12DrinkMore]

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

Paying for another visa and saying you just decided to change your mind and spend a few days in Cambo' would probably be accepted as ok

 

Yep, paying another bribe to get it done, they love that.

 

I hate the land borders to Cambodia.

 

Once I was walking through in no man's land with a large carrier bag full of fruit and other food purchased at the market. A bunch of <deleted> brats came up. Suddenly there was a large hole in the bottom of my bag, and the contents were being snatched up by the little c67ts

[JackThompson]

22 minutes ago, 12DrinkMore said:

 

Yep, paying another bribe to get it done, they love that.

 

I hate the land borders to Cambodia.

 

Once I was walking through in no man's land with a large carrier bag full of fruit and other food purchased at the market. A bunch of <deleted> brats came up. Suddenly there was a large hole in the bottom of my bag, and the contents were being snatched up by the little c67ts

Yes, I would not be surprised at some sort of "fee" to settle matters upon return to Cambodia.  I would go straight to the stamp-in window - not back to the corrupt VOA office.  There may be an official charge for canceling an exit.

On the no-man's land story - I have found border-regions to be where the least-desirable persons of every country hang out.  In general, I found average Cambodian folks to be remarkably honest. 

[overherebc]

41 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

Yes, I would not be surprised at some sort of "fee" to settle matters upon return to Cambodia.  I would go straight to the stamp-in window - not back to the corrupt VOA office.  There may be an official charge for canceling an exit.

On the no-man's land story - I have found border-regions to be where the least-desirable persons of every country hang out.  In general, I found average Cambodian folks to be remarkably honest. 

No man's land there I've even had the offer of all stamps here now for 2000 baht. 'You can just go back now no problem sir.'

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[FarangTraveler]

This happened to me recently. I had two tourist visas back to back. One which I received in the United States. Then another which I received in Laos 3 months later. I did the 90 day extension on both.  The Thai immigration website states people from the United States are "entitled" to two 30-day visa's on arrival per year when crossing a land border. This word entitled is what threw me off and I should not have assumed I still had these at my disposal and should have read the small print, if there was any as it obviously comes with a caveat.

 

I was denied at Poi Pet/Aranyaprathet and turned back around and yes this officer stamped my passport, then had me led out by someone working outside who handed my passport over to a Cambodian citizen, who scammed me in order to get my Cambodian departure stamp cancelled as he walked me over to the Cambodian Arrivals area in his flower shirt and had my passport in his possession the entire time. It was a nightmare and still isn't over for me yet.

 

The Thai immigration officer told me I could try again the next day after I've secured a ticket for an onward flight and can show I have 10,000 baht on me. He said it's all up to whichever officer I speak to. I returned the next day with all the criteria ready (more than 20,000 baht as proof) and was denied again by a different officer despite all this. She did not stamp my passport the way he had and she did not send me with a scammer over to Cambodian Arrivals. She treated the situation as if I was lying about the first guy telling me to try again and thought I was trying to be sneaky. But luckily she did not stamp my passport with the bad stamp in the end, but not sure if that makes a difference now that I have one already. So it depends on who you get.

 

They both had told me I'd have no problem flying in, but I actually have a health condition right now which prevents it and now that he stamped my passport something tells me I'd run into problems when arriving anyways. I know two people from South Africa that had many runs in their book and flew in and were detained and had to fly back out as they were denied entry. That was without a stamp.

 

Another person I knew had been doing runs for over a year, and got a red stamp in at another nearby country warning that this was his last one and telling others not to do it again for him. I was begging for that stamp on the second try at Poi Pet the next day as I just wanted to return to see a doctor at Bumrungrad and to get my stuff out of my hotel. I was then going to take a train to Malaysia and stay there for 6 months without needing a visa, so the dreaded red "first and last warning" stamp would have been OK in my situation.

 

Whatever you do, do not go to Poi Pet or Aranyaprathet even if you think you might be OK. It's not worth the risk. I know this was lengthy but hopefully this helps people make better decisions than what I did by going to this particular border.

Edited July 19, 2018 by FarangTraveler

[BuckBee]

yeh poipet best avoided for anyone with repeat setv or visa exempt history . Seen a lot of people turned away at that border, tough tactics and not much opportunity for debate of your actual circumstances/evidence etc .

Edited July 20, 2018 by BuckBee