The poisonous Brother in Law

[Rc2702]

2 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Buying your way in is a problem here, agreed. But you need need money to pay for it, as I said above.

Knowing the right person and being in the right place at the right time is not the same, if you know enough to do the job.

Talking of standards, have you had the misfortune to go to a NHS hospital lately?

 

Anyway, I do understand the point.

 

 

It just disappoints me I mean a hospital is really the heart of any community and kids being born or elders or the injured in need and they are the most susceptible people to infection and hospitals are disgusting. The most effort I have seen is the use of No Camera or video signs in every part of hospital. I know there are some good ones about they are not all like this but where we live at present it's gotta be one of the worst.

 

The hospital made our decision so easy, so we move soon.

 

 

 

 

[rhodie]

5 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Thank you Andrew,Rhodie,Old Hippy and so many others-I am deeply touched.

 

The contributors to this topic have managed to create a safe place-a "men's shed" in Aussie parlance-and this is quite a remarkable achievement on what is,after all,a public forum.

 

Well done to all.

 

Oddy.

 

PS..I hope that The Dark Lord is okay...

He is fine Ody. He only pops his head in here every few days so he will be along soon and glad to see you have made contact. I just hope that somehow your health is improving and allowing you to live a bet better. This thread is a lot slower now that both of you have made the great escape!

Just anticipating who will be next. :)

[Odysseus123]

On 8/13/2017 at 5:52 PM, owl sees all said:

Big war this morning.

 

I think Thai wives try to hide things away rather than come clean when they think they are in the wrong; maybe to avoid confrontation. Who knows?!

 

The wife wanted to go to the little market on the Mcycle. It's only 2K away. No prob's there but she then said "no benzine." That's strange, I thought, only two days before I put 3 litres in. "Where is the petrol dear?" "I don't know!" I sensed a change in the voice. "Someone has used the bike and gone a fair way on it. It must have been you yesterday. It's OK, I'll put some in" "I don't know who use bike!, why you keep ask me? You want trouble?!"  "Well I reckon the bike has done over 60Km and and you didn't know? How did the bike go anywhere without the key? You have the key!"

To cut a long story short, it turned out that the wife's niece; 'May' - 14 years old and with two friends - had (supposedly) gone into town (20Km away). And disappeared for about 4/5 hours while I had been attending to the cat sanctuary at the farm. I wasn't best pleased when I found out. She (the wife) had given them not only the key but the OK to go to town. Been found out telling porkies again.  Not one has a crash hat (the girls not the cats) and the Mcycle is just a village run-around without any MoT or the like.

 

WW3 battle #201 started.

 

Don't get me wrong guys; lots of times she has asked me for the use of the Mcycle. I've not refused for local trips BUT I have said NO for big road journeys. I thought me and Mrs Owl had a agreement on this. Perhaps I got it wrong again!!

 

If I do survive 'til tomorrow I might even pray to something. But I've been told to expect a very painful end.

 

Anyway; what's for sure is that I'm in the dog (in my case the cat) house again.

 

 

 

 

Wise old owl,

 

The "no benzine" trick was played on me several times-presumably because they thought I was a total idiot..which I was/am.

 

Basically this is how the mini scam went..

 

The BIL or stepson would disappear with the Toyota pickup.

Several days later my wife would casually inquire "Would you like go for drive?"

Then straight to gas station where I would say.."But I put benzine in the truck only a few days ago..."

Screaming would commence.."You no good..I need car..nobody uses car but me..!"

[Odysseus123]

7 hours ago, rhodie said:

He is fine Ody. He only pops his head in here every few days so he will be along soon and glad to see you have made contact. I just hope that somehow your health is improving and allowing you to live a bet better. This thread is a lot slower now that both of you have made the great escape!

Just anticipating who will be next. :)

Thanks Rhodie-it is good to know that he is doing well back in the Old Dart.

Yes...I notice that things have gone pretty quiet but considering this topic started with a reasonably narrow focus it has certainly charged up hill and down dale for a heck of a lot of interesting posts!

 

I have decided to distance myself from the vast bulk of the Forum for a while and just stick to reading this thread and one or two others.It is going to take a long time to sort out the vast bulk of the nonsense about the place in my head..and I don't have all that much time to muck around with.

[rhodie]

3 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Thanks Rhodie-it is good to know that he is doing well back in the Old Dart.

Yes...I notice that things have gone pretty quiet but considering this topic started with a reasonably narrow focus it has certainly charged up hill and down dale for a heck of a lot of interesting posts!

 

I have decided to distance myself from the vast bulk of the Forum for a while and just stick to reading this thread and one or two others.It is going to take a long time to sort out the vast bulk of the nonsense about the place in my head..and I don't have all that much time to muck around with.

Ody, this is the thread of distinction and the only one worth reading.  And even though RC started it, it was you and TDL that have taken it to where it is. Hopefully it will bob and weave, but always be a sanctuary for everyone that needs to bounce ideas off a sympathetic audience. One of the few threads on here that seems to have kept sane and dignified. And one where hopefully the real stories will keep giving food for thought. I have enjoyed the journey so far.

Thanks to Rc2702!

[Been there done that]

1 hour ago, rhodie said:

Ody, this is the thread of distinction and the only one worth reading.  And even though RC started it, it was you and TDL that have taken it to where it is. Hopefully it will bob and weave, but always be a sanctuary for everyone that needs to bounce ideas off a sympathetic audience. One of the few threads on here that seems to have kept sane and dignified. And one where hopefully the real stories will keep giving food for thought. I have enjoyed the journey so far.

Thanks to Rc2702!

The REAL stories hardly get any interest on this forum. 

 

The nonsense ones do.

[Rc2702]

Just now, Been there done that said:

The REAL stories hardly get any interest on this forum. 

 

The nonsense ones do.

I'd understand the bitterness if you were the editor of inspire pattaya but seriously you cannot deny there have been a fair few honest hard hitting stories about love,loss and even survival in this thread and it has a life of its own.

 

We got guys who have 40+ years of experience sharing so it's very disrespectful to say they are nonsense unless of course you mean the OP and in comparison I'd agree with you as the thread certainly evolved and become a real page Turner but you know what they say; you gotta start somewhere.

[champers]

On 8/15/2017 at 2:15 PM, The Dark Lord said:

Hi TTU, you seem to have landed on your feet this time, congrats. Your wisdom infers you are from Old Owl stock, he is a wise one too!

 

mine never criticised my driving and never ever tried to Lord it over others as she was married to a farang. We had shed loads of money when we first came over  ut lost it in a business deal gone ( horribly) wrong. She never criticised that, taking it on the chin and adjusting accordingly. Others however accused me openly of being "khee niou" for not spreading the perceived wealth. Despite the loss of face she never rose to those occasions. The only crack in our relationship was a very deep streak of jealousy and a great deal of insecurity. I am totally honest when I tell you that I never gave her any reason to have those feelings and I strongly suspect I was paying the price for the activities of the former husband who could not keep his "chap" zippered up and often beat her, so much so she was hospitalised numerous times. 

 

I don t beat women and certainly nowadays only bring out the love log to perform bathroom related activities. It has never appeared in a side show, ever. 

 

That begs the question"why am I being punished for the ex's transgressions?"

You wanted to move to Pattaya,TDL, and for many Thai ladies that is a frightening prospect. They fear you will be tempted by someone more young and beautiful.

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

20 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

George,

Yes it was psychologically agonising to leave my tough,little soi dog behind because he was,in the last year or so,my only friend.It is true that I knew a few foreigners but two died,several departed for home and two were pretty much financially destroyed,I knew a few others but did not have any form of "simpatico" with them.

 

At the end it was just an elderly German gentleman who would drive to my place,watch me stagger and crawl down the stairs and take me to lunch.Physically it was very hard but it had to be done otherwise I would have gone completely and utterly insane.

 

Between the severe unstable angina and the constant denigration from my wife-not to mention their ambition to avoid ever working in their lives-the situation had gotten completely out of control.I had never been placed in that position before and really had not developed the requisite life skills to deal with it.

 

It really was a case of Do or Die.

Ody, you made the decision. It was brave and difficult.

The support from us posters has only helped you help yourself.

You can see that all your friends on this thread understand how difficult it has been for you and are relieved to hear you are at last getting some treatment for your medical problems.

Please keep in touch with us, but only when you have time. For now you have to look after number ONE.

 

There are a couple of other guys on here that have problems too, but they have to stop moaning and take action like TDL and yourself.

 

Sometimes in life you come to a dead end and it is time to turn back and find the route you were looking for.

 

Best wishes, G

 

 

 

 

 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

19 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

It just disappoints me I mean a hospital is really the heart of any community and kids being born or elders or the injured in need and they are the most susceptible people to infection and hospitals are disgusting. The most effort I have seen is the use of No Camera or video signs in every part of hospital. I know there are some good ones about they are not all like this but where we live at present it's gotta be one of the worst.

 

The hospital made our decision so easy, so we move soon.

 

 

 

 

Again I understand and agree. The trouble is these days the lawyers are looking for business, rightly or wrongly.

Sad fact is, it is expensive to be ill, old or have an accident, but someone has to pay...

People from the UK are less likely to have taken out insurance thanks to believing the NHS would take care, but that is not the reality.

It is a dreadfully corrupt system now, more so since Tony Blair's New Labour in fact. Look it up.

Throwing endless amounts of money into it does not solve the problem.

A coat peg costs about £2.50, my friend bought one for his office in the hospital he worked at. He was not allowed to screw it to the back of his office door as ALL fixtures have to be done by contractors authorized by the building owners.

He got a peg. The workmen told him it would be invoiced for travel time, labour,  supplies and incidentals for about £400.

He also retired at 58 on a full NHS pension after working there for about 12 years. And that's only where some of the money goes....

Beggars belief 

 

 

 

 

[Odysseus123]

1 hour ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Ody, you made the decision. It was brave and difficult.

The support from us posters has only helped you help yourself.

You can see that all your friends on this thread understand how difficult it has been for you and are relieved to hear you are at last getting some treatment for your medical problems.

Please keep in touch with us, but only when you have time. For now you have to look after number ONE.

 

There are a couple of other guys on here that have problems too, but they have to stop moaning and take action like TDL and yourself.

 

Sometimes in life you come to a dead end and it is time to turn back and find the route you were looking for.

 

Best wishes, G

 

 

 

 

 

George,

 

I received an Email yesterday about yet another expatriate who has been financially "crunched" by his wife and her family and is getting out and going home.

 

These events seem to follow a similar theme so I am going to describe that pattern for the benefit of new readers so that they can avoid getting caught up in the drama of it all.

 

Wife and/or family want to set up a new business-generally along the line of restaurant/mom and pop store etc.Relatively large sums of money are then invested by the foreigner.

 

Over time these businesses become the sole source of income for the wife and family.Money is borrowed against the perceived profits for things like weddings,funerals and large social events.The stock runs low and more financial input is required.Over time this money too will go as more and more of the wife's family will turn up to take their cut.Big ticket items such as motor scooters,pick-ups are also purchased and the family commences to live high on the hog-as you do if you are indulging in nothing more than a well practiced cargo cult.

 

Domestic turmoil breaks out as the expat is then called upon to inject more funds to pay off the loans to the moneylenders.There are usually gambling debts being run up as well.At some stage the expat-usually elderly,living on a pension and often quite ill-will start to demur but it is often far too late by then and they are in deadly danger of losing their house,the business and all that they personally possess.

 

The wife can often benefit by running a facebook/line campaign against them as well as no Thai will ever inquire as to where all the material goods come from in the first place.All in all, these things progress with some kind of awful inevitability-just as they were moving against me and rather than become yet another elderly,isolated victim I chose to crawl/walk out of there.

 

Therefore you are quite correct.There were only two choices really;to go down to defeat or muster the will and energy to do something about it-come what may.

[Tilacme]

I have been following this thread and reading with interest real life stories, many of which touch a nerve.

 

It is so good to hear these experiences and to have circumstances eloquently explained.  Too often we only get the 3rd hand tales of relationship disasters and those are usually someone who thinks it will never happen them and then they quietly slips way.  Well done those who have opened up and told it as it is, you know who you are.

 

Thailand law and society is geared against us farangs so we need to take such measures as we can to mitigate loss. I still believe in Thailand as my home and I love my Thai wife.

[luk AJ]

I have no idea how many silent readers are following this particular thread, I just want to come briefly out of the shadow to express my warm feelings to all these contributors of real life stories combined with beautiful writing skills and a wealth of experience and knowledge. I feel that many of you could write books which stories would probably surpass many movie blockbusters. A thread with warm feelings without anger and venom in a way it even repells the well known keyboard warriors is unfortunately a very rare case. I really wish that some of you would share their life stories, so much better reading than all the pulp and fake news of these days.





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[Been there done that]

1 hour ago, Tilacme said:

I have been following this thread and reading with interest real life stories, many of which touch a nerve.

 

It is so good to hear these experiences and to have circumstances eloquently explained.  Too often we only get the 3rd hand tales of relationship disasters and those are usually someone who thinks it will never happen them and then they quietly slips way.  Well done those who have opened up and told it as it is, you know who you are.

 

Thailand law and society is geared against us farangs so we need to take such measures as we can to mitigate loss. I still believe in Thailand as my home and I love my Thai wife.

You still believe in "thailand", you wrote above. When all is geared against you, how in heavensname can you "believe" in thailand.

 

The mind truly boggles 

[Tilacme]

9 minutes ago, Been there done that said:

You still believe in "thailand", you wrote above. When all is geared against you, how in heavensname can you "believe" in thailand.

 

The mind truly boggles 

Yes I believe in Thailand, I am happy here.  Why else should I stay here?

[Been there done that]

38 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

Yes I believe in Thailand, I am happy here.  Why else should I stay here?

I can understand one is happy residing here, me too, but i dont believe in the culture and society as a whole. 

 

Believe and being happy is not the same.

[Rc2702]

Just now, Been there done that said:

I can understand one is happy residing here, me too, but i dont believe in the culture and society as a whole. 

 

Believe and being happy is not the same.

I agree wholly with this.  The mass issue facing thailand on every level leave a lot to be desired and that is exactly why I have a lot of time for the chaps who have made lives here through all these hurdles. Sure some things have not ended well for some but  I don't believe they were forced to stay so on some level the good certainly outweighed the bad. In my case I am here because of my family and I want the kid to speak this language but I also want to shield him from a lot and I'd like to hear more about other parents experiences on these matters. 

[Tilacme]

"Thainess" is never ever going to change so to live here you need to mix that into the soup.

[Rc2702]

Just now, Tilacme said:

"Thainess" is never ever going to change so to live here you need to mix that into the soup.

I still do not understand that word and I attribute it to people too lazy to explain stuff or to tar a whole nation

Edited August 20, 2017 by Rc2702

[Been there done that]

4 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

"Thainess" is never ever going to change so to live here you need to mix that into the soup.

Plenty of stories on here, and in real life, where the soup was served hot but became cold. After a while ofcourse. To adapt here and make living bearable (not thinking too much) plenty foreigners become selfish immoral people by keeping quiet on other foreigners misfortunes. Thus enabling the "culprits".Me, myself and I seems the best way for that lot. Despicable.

[Been there done that]

8 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

I still do not understand that word and I attribute it to people too lazy to explain stuff or to tar a whole nation

You must not be here long i guess by reading your comment. Life is full of generalizations. 

 

I will help you on the way, facesaving and totally lacking any responsability for actions taken. This for starters 

[Tilacme]

11 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

I still do not understand that word and I attribute it to people too lazy to explain stuff or to tar a whole nation

Why should Thainess be seen to tarnish a nation when the principle is highly applauded. 

 

Anyway I have not joined this thread to trade insults so I will politely give my goodbyes and let you get on with it.

[Been there done that]

13 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

Why should Thainess be seen to tarnish a nation when the principle is highly applauded. 

 

Anyway I have not joined this thread to trade insults so I will politely give my goodbyes and let you get on with it.

Sensitivity, misinterpretation and walking away is a thai trait as well. 

 

Good on ya.

Edited August 20, 2017 by Been there done that
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[Rc2702]

Just now, Tilacme said:

Why should Thainess be seen to tarnish a nation when the principle is highly applauded. 

 

Anyway I have not joined this thread to trade insults so I will politely give my goodbyes and let you get on with it.

Sorry, You are right my post could have been a bit clearer.  Whenever I read about Thainess or see it used it is always a negative and I'm yet to hear it being used as a positive so I would like to hear how it used in a good light as I only see sheep use this term and use it with a negative connotation. 

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

20 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

George,

 

I received an Email yesterday about yet another expatriate who has been financially "crunched" by his wife and her family and is getting out and going home.

 

These events seem to follow a similar theme so I am going to describe that pattern for the benefit of new readers so that they can avoid getting caught up in the drama of it all.

 

Wife and/or family want to set up a new business-generally along the line of restaurant/mom and pop store etc.Relatively large sums of money are then invested by the foreigner.

 

Over time these businesses become the sole source of income for the wife and family.Money is borrowed against the perceived profits for things like weddings,funerals and large social events.The stock runs low and more financial input is required.Over time this money too will go as more and more of the wife's family will turn up to take their cut.Big ticket items such as motor scooters,pick-ups are also purchased and the family commences to live high on the hog-as you do if you are indulging in nothing more than a well practiced cargo cult.

 

Domestic turmoil breaks out as the expat is then called upon to inject more funds to pay off the loans to the moneylenders.There are usually gambling debts being run up as well.At some stage the expat-usually elderly,living on a pension and often quite ill-will start to demur but it is often far too late by then and they are in deadly danger of losing their house,the business and all that they personally possess.

 

The wife can often benefit by running a facebook/line campaign against them as well as no Thai will ever inquire as to where all the material goods come from in the first place.All in all, these things progress with some kind of awful inevitability-just as they were moving against me and rather than become yet another elderly,isolated victim I chose to crawl/walk out of there.

 

Therefore you are quite correct.There were only two choices really;to go down to defeat or muster the will and energy to do something about it-come what may.

Hi Ody,

A good warning. In my own experience though people never listen.

I had a good mate who was invited to come to a wedding here by a distant relative. Having lived and worked here for many years I gave him advice on what was the likely scenario. He ignored my advice and subsequently every last thing I told him not to get succored into came about. This guy isn't stupid, a very intelligent bloke really, he just thought he knew better. I fell out with him over another matter in the end and we didn't speak for a year until he came to me and apologised for his mistake causing the fall out and also for not listening to my advice about Thailand.

I believe you need to big enough to admit a mistake and apologise, and to accept one when it is genuine. We are mates again.

 

On the business side, I agree entirely with what you say. I would add I have experience of that myself, and lost about £20k the 1st 18 months I was here. Unfortunately I was cheated far worse in the UK in my absence that caused more problems. I have several friends that have suffered the same here however I do know others that are the exception to the rule, having married well off Thais while being successful themselves working here.

 

Some people these days have a misguided idea that online dating can avoid the traps. The fact is the almighty computer cannot evade the humanoid deception involved and the eventual disasters prove that theory wrong (know a few that have tried it and suffered).

On a similar note I had some kid on another thread last week telling me "experience means nothing when you have Google". 

 

Anyway, I hope your good advice helps somebody along the line as it is very worthwhile.

 

Cheers, G

 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2017 by George FmplesdaCosteedback

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

8 hours ago, luk AJ said:

I have no idea how many silent readers are following this particular thread, I just want to come briefly out of the shadow to express my warm feelings to all these contributors of real life stories combined with beautiful writing skills and a wealth of experience and knowledge. I feel that many of you could write books which stories would probably surpass many movie blockbusters. A thread with warm feelings without anger and venom in a way it even repells the well known keyboard warriors is unfortunately a very rare case. I really wish that some of you would share their life stories, so much better reading than all the pulp and fake news of these days.





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Interesting that you talk of writing a book. There are a few on the shelves if you have a look. I wrote one with a friend about 20 years ago combining our experiences. It was at first accepted for publication by Asia books, but subsequently cancelled when the government changed and the prose didn't really show Thailand in a shining light...

You might see  it online soon though.

Anyway, good you have found the thread interesting.

 

 

 

[Odysseus123]

2 hours ago, George FmplesdaCosteedback said:

Hi Ody,

A good warning. In my own experience though people never listen.

I had a good mate who was invited to come to a wedding here by a distant relative. Having lived and worked here for many years I gave him advice on what was the likely scenario. He ignored my advice and subsequently every last thing I told him not to get succored into came about. This guy isn't stupid, a very intelligent bloke really, he just thought he knew better. I fell out with him over another matter in the end and we didn't speak for a year until he came to me and apologised for his mistake causing the fall out and also for not listening to my advice about Thailand.

I believe you need to big enough to admit a mistake and apologise, and to accept one when it is genuine. We are mates again.

 

On the business side, I agree entirely with what you say. I would add I have experience of that myself, and lost about £20k the 1st 18 months I was here. Unfortunately I was cheated far worse in the UK in my absence that caused more problems. I have several friends that have suffered the same here however I do know others that are the exception to the rule, having married well off Thais while being successful themselves working here.

 

Some people these days have a misguided idea that online dating can avoid the traps. The fact is the almighty computer cannot evade the humanoid deception involved and the eventual disasters prove that theory wrong (know a few that have tried it and suffered).

On a similar note I had some kid on another thread last week telling me "experience means nothing when you have Google". 

 

Anyway, I hope your good advice helps somebody along the line as it is very worthwhile.

 

Cheers, G

 

 

 

George,

This new medication that they have me on is knocking me about and making me feel quite tired but it is far superior to the first lot they tried which sent me straight into a coronary care unit.In any case it will be about a fortnight before I am re-admitted to hospital for further procedures so I am just trying to take it easy at the moment.

 

I do understand that one's own experiences are often ignored on the rather dubious grounds of "That will never happen to me-I am wealthier,stronger,more hansum,more intelligent...." but I just felt like describing the process-which I have witnessed many times in that area-in as accurate a way as possible and I would also like to note that it happened to some Thai people that I knew as well..with the same disastrous results.

 

I had a most curious conversation with an Aussie male (approx 60 years of age) the other day.It started off with a question about my (Thai) walking stick and the chap went on to describe that he had a Thai "girlfriend"-complete with two daughters-who lives "near Phuket" to whom he sends money tho' he has never visited in person.

 

After a significant pause I quietly replied.."Well..I lived there for six years, would you like to know anything about the politics,society or culture?"

 

"Ummm..no...maybe some other time.."

 

"Okay-best of luck!"

 

 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2017 by Odysseus123
clarity.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎8‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 7:16 PM, Odysseus123 said:

Wise old owl,

 

The "no benzine" trick was played on me several times-presumably because they thought I was a total idiot..which I was/am.

 

Basically this is how the mini scam went..

 

The BIL or stepson would disappear with the Toyota pickup.

Several days later my wife would casually inquire "Would you like go for drive?"

Then straight to gas station where I would say.."But I put benzine in the truck only a few days ago..."

Screaming would commence.."You no good..I need car..nobody uses car but me..!"

Reading some of the stories on this thread has convinced me that while I had it bad, I got off lightly.

While things were not the best for the last 2 years of our relationship, I never had the actual verbal abuse till the last month.

BTW, I didn't have "the no benzene" trick played on me because I never paid for diesel unless it was me driving on a trip to the village and I only put in as much as I knew was needed for the trip, so like I said not as bad as it might have been.

Anyway, till the end it was never my wife doing the dirty, but I know her sister was doing everything she could to make her.

If not for the sister, I sincerely believe I'd still be with the wife. It might not have been the best marriage in history, but far from the worst. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎8‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 1:07 AM, Rc2702 said:

I'd understand the bitterness if you were the editor of inspire pattaya but seriously you cannot deny there have been a fair few honest hard hitting stories about love,loss and even survival in this thread and it has a life of its own.

 

We got guys who have 40+ years of experience sharing so it's very disrespectful to say they are nonsense unless of course you mean the OP and in comparison I'd agree with you as the thread certainly evolved and become a real page Turner but you know what they say; you gotta start somewhere.

I don't think he means this thread. Plenty of threads on other subforums that deal with rubbish but get dozens of pages of replies.

The "forum" applies to all of TVF, not just this sub forum.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎8‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 4:58 AM, Odysseus123 said:

 

 

Wife and/or family want to set up a new business-generally along the line of restaurant/mom and pop store etc.Relatively large sums of money are then invested by the foreigner.

 

Over time these businesses become the sole source of income for the wife and family.Money is borrowed against the perceived profits for things like weddings,funerals and large social events.The stock runs low and more financial input is required.Over time this money too will go as more and more of the wife's family will turn up to take their cut.Big ticket items such as motor scooters,pick-ups are also purchased and the family commences to live high on the hog-as you do if you are indulging in nothing more than a well practiced cargo cult.

 

Domestic turmoil breaks out as the expat is then called upon to inject more funds to pay off the loans to the moneylenders.There are usually gambling debts being run up as well.At some stage the expat-usually elderly,living on a pension and often quite ill-will start to demur but it is often far too late by then and they are in deadly danger of losing their house,the business and all that they personally possess.

 

 

The common denominator in all such stories is that the farang agrees to pay to set up the family business, and having set it up continues to pay out substantial sums even though no sane guy would have done so with a wife from "back home". Who on here would have bought the wife's brother a car and put her nephews and nieces through university?

There is some reason farangs lose their mind when they move to Thailand. Distill it and make a fortune selling "sucker potion"!

Even sadder are old blokes with a family already that willingly impregnates the Thai beloved with the ultimate financial hook. After all, no normal person willingly gives up their own genetic stock to poverty.

 

Actually, the most sad thing is that even if threads like this were required reading for any farang thinking of getting married, most would disregard the advice and willingly cast themselves into doom.

I did, and I knew most of it before. While the woman herself was OK, I had not considered the family, and the family came before me. She was more upset when our hamsters died than when I left, but they had been poisoning her for years. She even told me her sister wanted her to divorce me, and she was always telling me about the farang that married her cousin and gave them lots of money.