Eric Loh Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Just now, halloween said: try again Ex-minister Boonsong and 20 others faulted for corruption in fake G-to ... englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-minister-boonsong-20-others-faulted-corru.. Hope this is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Ex-minister Boonsong and 20 others faulted for corruption in fake G-to ... englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ex-minister-boonsong-20-others-faulted-corru.. Hope this is better. Eric, before you start posting links in an attempt to trivialise the value of the fraud, you could at least read it yourself. I know there are a lot of words, so I will cut and paste for you. "..... two fake government-to-government rice deals involving with 65,000 tonnes of milled rice worth about 847 million baht." I'm sure you liked that bit and got all excited. But.... "Boonsong was also faulted for involvement in four other fake G-to-G rice deals with four Chinese firms. The deals involved 14 million tonnes of rice." Oh dear, there goes the happy ending. Edited September 7, 2017 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 5 hours ago, pornprong said: What I am saying is that the Thai courts have zero credibility and less than zero credibility when it comes to political cases. None of the Shinawatra's are my heroes. I would be just as comfortable with an elected Prayuth as an elected Yingluck or an elected Abhisit. I prefer democracy to dictatorship, tyranny, fascism and plutocracy, that is all. Many cases are not air tight, the majority of political cases aren't air tight and worse still, there are many air tight cases that don't even make it to the courts. He may be corrupt, he may not, unfortunately the Thai courts have zero credibility so we may never really know then truth. I for one, would be willing to bet a large sum of money that this guy does not serve the full 42 years. Once democracy returns, the injustice served up to Boonsong and many, many others will be rectified and they will be released. A red shirt was found not guilty today of the bombing in Minburi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Just now, Siripon said: A red shirt was found not guilty today of the bombing in Minburi. .......and expressed her faith in the Thai courts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, halloween said: Eric, before you start posting links in an attempt to trivialise the value of the fraud, you could at least read it yourself. I know there are a lot of words, so I will cut and paste for you. "..... two fake government-to-government rice deals involving with 65,000 tonnes of milled rice worth about 847 million baht." I'm sure you liked that bit and got all excited. But.... "Boonsong was also faulted for involvement in four other fake G-to-G rice deals with four Chinese firms. The deals involved 14 million tonnes of rice." Oh dear, there goes the happy ending. You got that right. Don't be defensive and emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Just now, Eric Loh said: You got that right. Don't be defensive and emotional. I'll tell you what, I won't be defensive and emotional if you stop posting lies to defend PTP criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, halloween said: I'll tell you what, I won't be defensive and emotional if you stop posting lies to defend PTP criminals. Like you often do mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: You got that right. Don't be defensive and emotional. Eric, regarding pastry gate, if you read the enclosed link you will see that Thana Tansiri, a legal representative of Thaksin Shinawatra was implicated. When interviewed by the Investigation Panel, he tried to pass the incident off as a case of his driver giving him the wrong bag, one with 2 million baht as opposed to a similar one with pastries in. 5555 Another honest mistake like the time Thakin spent several years putting millions of baht in the names of his servants ( why? could it have been stock manipulation?) http://slimdogsworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/pastrygate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: You got that right. Don't be defensive and emotional. "Don't be defensive and emotional." Your a laugh a minute. You can't come up with a more adult comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, halloween said: I'll tell you what, I won't be defensive and emotional if you stop posting lies to defend PTP criminals. Best post this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Siripon said: A red shirt was found not guilty today of the bombing in Minburi. Exception that proves the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Siripon said: Eric, regarding pastry gate, if you read the enclosed link you will see that Thana Tansiri, a legal representative of Thaksin Shinawatra was implicated. When interviewed by the Investigation Panel, he tried to pass the incident off as a case of his driver giving him the wrong bag, one with 2 million baht as opposed to a similar one with pastries in. 5555 Another honest mistake like the time Thakin spent several years putting millions of baht in the names of his servants ( why? could it have been stock manipulation?) http://slimdogsworld.blogspot.com/2009/06/pastrygate.html Interesting quote from your link: The judiciary may prove capable of marginalizing Thaksin, but risks a perception that the courts are increasingly politicized. End Summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, pornprong said: Interesting quote from your link: The judiciary may prove capable of marginalizing Thaksin, but risks a perception that the courts are increasingly politicized. End Summary. Yep, they just keep finding red criminals guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 21 minutes ago, halloween said: Yep, they just keep finding red criminals guilty. Yep, Reds, both criminal and non-criminal,all guilty. Too bad the yellows still can't win an election though, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, pornprong said: Yep, Reds, both criminal and non-criminal,all guilty. Too bad the yellows still can't win an election though, isn't it. The situation is hopefully moving beyond the childish definitions of reds and yellows. Yellows have their own divisions, leading to a parting of ways among many members and Pheua Thai politicians likewise, may sense the end of an era. Behind the scenes many may be seeking a new future, away from the restrictions of their previous labels. Could it be the progressive thinking and forward members of both colours and parties, Pheua Thai and the Democrats, are able to move beyond their own patrons to construct a better vision of the future of Thailand ? I believe one day, in the not so distant future, this may take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 42 minutes ago, Siripon said: The situation is hopefully moving beyond the childish definitions of reds and yellows. Yellows have their own divisions, leading to a parting of ways among many members and Pheua Thai politicians likewise, may sense the end of an era. Behind the scenes many may be seeking a new future, away from the restrictions of their previous labels. Could it be the progressive thinking and forward members of both colours and parties, Pheua Thai and the Democrats, are able to move beyond their own patrons to construct a better vision of the future of Thailand ? I believe one day, in the not so distant future, this may take place. Sorry to burst your bubble, but all the progressives are on the red side as are all the best possible future versions of this country. Yellows just aren't needed (or wanted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 9 hours ago, pornprong said: Sorry to burst your bubble, but all the progressives are on the red side as are all the best possible future versions of this country. Yellows just aren't needed (or wanted). There are plenty of people in the Democrat Party with visions for the future. Dr Surin for one. http://investvine.com/former-asean-secretary-general-run-bangkok-governor/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Siripon said: There are plenty of people in the Democrat Party with visions for the future. Dr Surin for one. http://investvine.com/former-asean-secretary-general-run-bangkok-governor/ Nothing in your link where he speaks out about the lack of democracy Thailand is currently experiencing... he's part of Thailand's past, not it's future - chuck in the mile high pile of worthless yellows. Edited September 8, 2017 by pornprong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 21 hours ago, pornprong said: Yep, Reds, both criminal and non-criminal,all guilty. Too bad the yellows still can't win an election though, isn't it. Now your really struggling for a comment. Failed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 hour ago, pornprong said: Nothing in your link where he speaks out about the lack of democracy Thailand is currently experiencing... he's part of Thailand's past, not it's future - chuck in the mile high pile of worthless yellows. Worthless: - jatuporn - nutawut - narisman - thida - weng and a few more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, pornprong said: Sorry to burst your bubble, but all the progressives are on the red side as are all the best possible future versions of this country. Yellows just aren't needed (or wanted). Report post #166 Posted 19 hours ago 21 hours ago, Siripon said: The situation is hopefully moving beyond the childish definitions of reds and yellows. Yellows have their own divisions, leading to a parting of ways among many members and Pheua Thai politicians likewise, may sense the end of an era. Behind the scenes many may be seeking a new future, away from the restrictions of their previous labels. Could it be the progressive thinking and forward members of both colours and parties, Pheua Thai and the Democrats, are able to move beyond their own patrons to construct a better vision of the future of Thailand ? I believe one day, in the not so distant future, this may take place. "Sorry to burst your bubble, but all the progressives are on the red side as are all the best possible future versions of this country." So please some specific names of red progressives? Edited September 8, 2017 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siripon Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 9/8/2017 at 3:50 PM, pornprong said: Nothing in your link where he speaks out about the lack of democracy Thailand is currently experiencing... he's part of Thailand's past, not it's future - chuck in the mile high pile of worthless yellows. To quote: Dr Surin expects the current governing body, the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) to allow Bangkok governor elections as a prequel to general elections in a signal that democracy is returning to the country. He said that Bangkok was “an ideal place to start with” because its citizens were the “most democratically active” in the country. Outlining for his programme, Pitsuwan said as governor he would play an active role in modernizing the capital and turn it into an internationally-oriented smart city “with transparency and efficiency in management” and the assistance of its people, as well as into a place where people can participate in the political process and scrutinize it in a functioning checks-and-balances system which would contribute to national reform on a wider scale. He also said he would invite entrepreneurs and even foreign expats to deliver ideas how to make Bangkok more modern, livable and prosperous, with an administration that would respond to the citizen’s needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Siripon said: To quote: Dr Surin expects the current governing body, the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) to allow Bangkok governor elections as a prequel to general elections in a signal that democracy is returning to the country. He said that Bangkok was “an ideal place to start with” because its citizens were the “most democratically active” in the country. Outlining for his programme, Pitsuwan said as governor he would play an active role in modernizing the capital and turn it into an internationally-oriented smart city “with transparency and efficiency in management” and the assistance of its people, as well as into a place where people can participate in the political process and scrutinize it in a functioning checks-and-balances system which would contribute to national reform on a wider scale. He also said he would invite entrepreneurs and even foreign expats to deliver ideas how to make Bangkok more modern, livable and prosperous, with an administration that would respond to the citizen’s needs. So he thinks the coup and its repercussions are good or bad, or did the coward avoid the topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Arresting him is just bursting a insignificant fuse... not much of an acheivement, assuming...assuming that higher above, they were corrupt and guilty of embezzlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funandsuninbangkok Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 There are some tough ass bitch ladyboy momasans running bars Cowboy. No nonsense Theyd get my vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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