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Fauci Invokes Fifth Amendment at Tense Senate Hearing

Anthony Fauci refused to answer questions at a tense US Senate hearing on the origins of Covid-19, saying he feared Republicans would use his testimony to pursue allegations of perjury.

Speaking on Wednesday at a hearing of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) invoked the Fifth Amendment, which protects people from being compelled to give evidence against themselves in criminal cases.

Fifth Amendment Refusal

Fauci, 85, told senators: “Under the advice of my attorneys,” he would invoke his right under the Fifth Amendment to refrain from responding. He said the decision followed concern that contradicting himself under oath could create legal exposure, noting he had previously testified about Covid and its origin at several congressional hearings.

He added that taking the Fifth Amendment is not an admission of guilt and is meant to guard against coercion and mistakes, as well as shifting the burden of proof onto an individual.

Fauci also acknowledged that former President Joe Biden granted him a pre-emptive pardon, protecting him from federal prosecution for actions taken between 2014 and 2025. He said the protection would not necessarily extend beyond that period, leaving open the possibility of charges after the date of the pardon, including under state or local law.

Contempt Vote and Possible Probe

Senator Rand Paul, a Republican and chairman of the hearing, continued questioning Fauci after his refusal. Paul invited Fauci to “apologise” and said the committee would vote next week on a resolution holding Fauci in contempt of Congress.

Republicans have repeatedly accused Fauci of withholding information about the pandemic from the public and of misstating the risks during the crisis. Fauci has denied wrongdoing and previously described the allegations as “simply preposterous”.

One of Paul’s lines of questioning focused on guidance that changed during the pandemic as officials learned more about the virus. Fauci had defended his earlier positions.

Fauci’s lawyer, David Schertler, attempted to interject during Paul’s questioning and was removed from the room. After the hearing, Schertler called it “outrageous” for Paul to exclude counsel when making what he described as a legitimate legal point, saying it reflected “the baseless and vindictive nature of this proceeding”.

Following the hearing, Florida’s Republican attorney general said he would open an investigation into Fauci. Senator Ron Johnson, also a Republican, said he would seek to subpoena Fauci in an effort to require him to answer senators’ questions.

Democrats defended Fauci, including Senator Maggie Hassan, who said the hearing was “designed to entrap” him.

Paul, Trump Trade Accusations

During the hearing, President Donald Trump posted on social media calling Fauci “crazy”. Trump said he had insisted from the start that the virus came from the Wuhan laboratory in China and that Fauci had “strongly disagreed”, portraying it as an attempt to protect China.

The origins of Covid-19 have been a longstanding point of contention in the US, with Trump, who was in office when the outbreak emerged in 2020, clashing with public health officials including Fauci.

In Wednesday’s hearing, Paul suggested that although Fauci had publicly said the virus originated naturally, Paul believed Fauci privately thought it began in a medical laboratory. Paul has promoted what is often called the lab-leak theory, linking the virus to China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The World Health Organization said in 2025 that the natural-origins theory—spillover from animals to people—was the “best supported” explanation based on available evidence, but that until more information emerges, determining the origin remains “inconclusive”.

Diary Entries Revisit Origins Debate

Earlier this week, Paul released diary entries from Fauci’s pandemic era. In the entries, Fauci reflected on fame and discussed Covid origins, indicating that early on he considered both natural origins and a lab leak, before appearing to become more convinced the virus had a natural origin.

In one note from February 2020 about a call between Covid scientists, Fauci said doctors did not have “total agreement” on where the virus came from. He later wrote he was “almost certain” the virus evolved through a species jump while still keeping an open mind about a possible lab leak, and that two alternatives being possible did not mean they were equally probable.

Fauci has received death threats during and after the pandemic and Trump removed his security protection last year. He was also one of the most trusted figures in the US response during the crisis, and in 2021 Trump awarded him a presidential commendation for his work on the Covid vaccine project known as Operation Warp Speed.

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BeastOfBodmin Silver Member

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On 7/30/2026 at 8:59 AM, Brettoj said:

It looks like a witch hunt to find someone they can blame for Covid.

Rand Paul has been after him for years.

FinChin67 Silver Member

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Even Bill Maher says Fauci’s diary is the “most embarrassing” release of anything he has seen since Anthony Weiner got caught sending a d*ck pic to a college student.

stevenl Star Member

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1 hour ago, FinChin67 said:

Even Bill Maher says Fauci’s diary is the “most embarrassing

Nope, he said the release of Fauci's diary ...

And he was right, Paul showed his lack of decency with this. And he achieved absolutely nothing by it, even stronger, it could have convinced Fauci even more to shut up.

johng Star Member

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3 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

pick a box. You can't have it both ways.

The 'virus' was not very deadly.

The shutdown of the economy and forced injection of experimental concoction was.

LosLobo Platinum Member

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34 minutes ago, johng said:

The 'virus' was not very deadly.

The shutdown of the economy and forced injection of experimental concoction was.


When you can make a factual, logically coherent argument without resorting to a word salad of straw men, red herrings, non sequiturs, unsupported assertions, and a lack of reasoning, let me know.

johng Star Member

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When you wake up from your MSM brainwashing... let me know.

LosLobo Platinum Member

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8 minutes ago, johng said:

When you wake up from your MSM brainwashing... let me know.


MAGA often calls others 'woke' as an insult yet argue that they need to ‘wake up.’ You are a world of logical contradictions as your posts prove. QED.

connda Star Member

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What color is your tie? Fauci invokes the 5th.
How's the weather? Fauci invokes the 5th.
What is a virus? Fauci invokes the 5th.

When you have immunity from prosecution in the form of a presidential pardon, using the "5th Amendment" card is deliberately engaging in contempt of Congress.

But? I doubt anything will happen to him. Everyone in Washington seems made out of Teflon these days.

stevenl Star Member

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33 minutes ago, connda said:

When you have immunity from prosecution

I would agree with you, if he had immunity from prosecution. But he doesn't, he only has a limited protection.

LosLobo Platinum Member

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(edited)
24 minutes ago, connda said:

What color is your tie? Fauci invokes the 5th.
How's the weather? Fauci invokes the 5th.
What is a virus? Fauci invokes the 5th.

When you have immunity from prosecution in the form of a presidential pardon, using the "5th Amendment" card is deliberately engaging in contempt of Congress.

But? I doubt anything will happen to him. Everyone in Washington seems made out of Teflon these days.


Fauci had 'immunity' in the form of a presidential pardon up to 20 January 2025 for Federal crimes, but not for State ones or anything he said in this hearing.

Edited by LosLobo

FinChin67 Silver Member

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If you are grown *ss adult defending Dr. Fauci and his ridiculous Covid rules in 2026, then do all us all a favor and watch this. Then dispute it.

candide Star Member

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Contempt is quite justified while dealing with Paul's ridiculous witch hunt! 😂

FinChin67 Silver Member

FinChin67

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Fauci works very hard to keep his Mengele Jr. reputation.

JerryM Gold Member

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If some on here agree with Sen.Paul that Dr. Fauci should be in jail, maybe US Attorney for DC Ms. Pirro should try to indict him while she is still US Attorney.

nexus7 Senior Member

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Fauci 2021: ...I am the science...

Fauci 2026: ...I am the silent...

candide Star Member

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Obviously, Fauci was right to be cautious!

it seems the GOP will try anything in order to whitewash Trump's incompetent and childish management of the pandemic! 😀

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Louisiana Attorney General Liz Murrill says Anthony Fauci lied under deposition and announces Louisiana will join Alabama and Florida in investigating potential state crimes.
amexpat Gold Member

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On 7/30/2026 at 7:32 AM, SiSePuede419 said:

Deficit management is a lost cause until someone gets serious about trimming the social program, and unless the Republicans have 60 votes in the Senate, it will not happen. The Democrats will not cut social programs.

Yes, cutting programs that serve the people is the only solution - without reconsidering the two trillion dollar tax cut for the ultra rich or subsidies for fossil fuel companies.

amexpat Gold Member

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9 minutes ago, amexpat said:

"unless the Republicans have 60 votes in the Senate, it will not happen".
Aw, did SiSiPuede419 think there are 120 Senators?

"The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided" (U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 3). Since 1789, 309 tie-breaking votes have been cast.

JerryM Gold Member

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(edited)

Under Florida Statutes § 775.15, the time limit for the state to prosecute a felony depends on the crime's severity: capital and life felonies have no time limit, first-degree felonies have a 4-year limit, and second- and third-degree felonies have a 3-year limit.

https://floridalegalservicesauthority.com/florida-statute-of-limitations-reference/

For Louisiana:

Non-Hard Labor: Four years to start prosecution for felonies not necessarily punishable at (prison sentence) hard labor.

Edited by JerryM

gamb00ler Ruby Member

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On 7/30/2026 at 3:36 PM, Globalres said:

You were obviously not informed that at the large inquiry held in Europe, Pfizer admitted that the vaccine was never tested for how it stopped spreading the virus, only how effective it was for keeping you from dying. So all this talk about protecting grandma and grandpa was apparently bogus.

You omitted this bit.....

However, this was not a hidden admission or a secret; the initial clinical trials were explicitly designed to measure efficacy against symptomatic disease, and regulators knew transmission data was lacking at the time of emergency approval.

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