9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

None.

But I don't completely ignore the claims that paid agitators exist either just to suit my narrative.

But I get it. Politics is a dirty game. So let's just jump the gun and keep spreading propaganda.

And Trump is the filthiest player of all.

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3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

My question is why a "protester" was carrying a full sized pistol with two magazines and an optical sight to a protest.

Civilians that carry concealed for self defense generally dont carry full sized SIGs with an optical sight. Those are designed for open carry, service use and home defense.

Hey, remember this guy?

Read the full text of Alex Pretti's parents' statement following his fatal shooting by Border Patrol forces

"We are heartbroken but also very angry. 

"Alex was a kindhearted soul who cared deeply for his family and friends and also the American veterans whom he cared for as an ICU nurse at the Minneapolis VA hospital. Alex wanted to make a difference in this world. Unfortunately he will not be with us to see his impact. I do not throw around the hero term lightly. However his last thought and act was to protect a woman. 

"The sickening lies told about our son by the administration are reprehensible and disgusting. Alex is clearly not holding a gun when attacked by Trump's murdering and cowardly ICE thugs. He has his phone in his right hand and his empty left hand is raised above his head while trying to protect the woman ICE just pushed down all while being pepper sprayed. 

"Please get the truth out about our son. He was a good man. Thank you."

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/alex-pretti-parents-statement-border-patrol-fatal-shooting-minneapolis/

Here's more of what his father said which from what I can tell MSM aren't running.

NEW: Alex Pretti’s father speaks out following the deadly shooting— “He cared about people deeply and he was very upset with what was happening in Minneapolis and throughout the United States with ICE, as millions of other people are upset,” said Michael Pretti, Alex’s father. “He thought it was terrible, you know, kidnapping children, just grabbing people off the street. He cared about those people, and he knew it was wrong, so he did participate in protests.”

In a recent conversation with their son, his parents, who live in Colorado, told him to be careful when protesting.

“We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid, basically… And he said he knows that. He knew that.”

https://www.facebook.com/AliBradleyTV/posts/new-alex-prettis-father-speaks-out-following-the-deadly-shooting-he-cared-about-/1443783157117458/

F.A. United States Attorney Bill Essayli

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@USAttyEssayli

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Antifa tactics are on full display today. What you're seeing is straight from their playbook to undermine government:

1. Agitate law enforcement (get in their face, spit on them, assault them, etc.)

2. Trigger a response and use of force by law enforcement

3. Film the use of force and publicize it out of context

4. Use mainstream media and social media to inflame the public with a false narrative

5. Trigger a riot to overthrow the government

"Peaceful" protester bites off ICE law enforcement officer's finger.

9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

F.A. United States Attorney Bill Essayli

On January 24, 2026 in response to the Killing of Alex Pretti Essayli posted on Twitter:

"If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you. Don't do it!" The gun-rights organizations National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America both criticized the comments.

The National Rifle Association called these comments "dangerous and wrong" and called for a full investigation. Gun Owners of America responded by stating: "We condemn the untoward comments of U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli.

Federal agents are not 'highly likely' to be 'legally justified' in 'shooting' concealed carry licensees who approach while lawfully carrying a firearm. The Second Amendment protects Americans' right to bear arms while protesting—a right the federal government must not infringe upon."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Essayli

19 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

F.A. United States Attorney Bill Essayli

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1712135718326161408/Y7rGc_uj_bigger.jpg

@USAttyEssayli

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Antifa tactics are on full display today. What you're seeing is straight from their playbook to undermine government:

1. Agitate law enforcement (get in their face, spit on them, assault them, etc.)

2. Trigger a response and use of force by law enforcement

3. Film the use of force and publicize it out of context

4. Use mainstream media and social media to inflame the public with a false narrative

5. Trigger a riot to overthrow the government

Call it what you want, but more and more Americans are sick and tired of the excrement coming out the White House. They want Trump gone and NOT an overthrow of the government.

3 minutes ago, JerryM said:

On January 24, 2026 in response to the Killing of Alex Pretti Essayli posted on Twitter:

"If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you. Don't do it!" The gun-rights organizations National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America both criticized the comments.

The National Rifle Association called these comments "dangerous and wrong" and called for a full investigation. Gun Owners of America responded by stating: "We condemn the untoward comments of U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli.

Federal agents are not 'highly likely' to be 'legally justified' in 'shooting' concealed carry licensees who approach while lawfully carrying a firearm. The Second Amendment protects Americans' right to bear arms while protesting—a right the federal government must not infringe upon."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Essayli

Yes, you can carry concealed at a protest BUT carrying concealed and interfering with law enforcement when armed is another matter one which may result in deadly consequences.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

But I get it. Politics is a dirty game. So let's just jump the gun and keep spreading propaganda.

Which is exactly what you and the administration are doing.

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

Call it what you want, but more and more Americans are sick and tired of the excrement coming out the White House. They want Trump gone and NOT an overthrow of the government.

Interesting that a places like Texas and Florida where 10x the amount of illegal aliens are being arrested don't have the problems seen in Minneapolis.

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

interfering with law enforcement

AI Gemini:

The Government's Claim: Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem and federal officials claimed Pretti interfered with their operations by approaching agents with a handgun and resisting arrest.

The Controversy: Multiple bystander videos and witness testimonies contradict the government’s account. These reports suggest Pretti was recording the interaction on his phone and was pepper-sprayed before being shot. While he reportedly owned a firearm and had a permit to carry, witnesses state he did not brandish a weapon.

1 hour ago, bannork said:

🚨 Lawyer breaks down NEW ICE SHOOTING FOOTAGE

In this video you can clearly see one agent removes Alex Pretti's gun and walks away with it.

After that, another agent shoots Pretti dead.

Until there is very enhanced video of what happened is that scrum no simple conclusions can be made ^. IE. Was he trying to grab one of the ICE guns? Did it appear that he was reaching for a weapon he had? In both cases shooting could be justified. What is known is bringing hand gun + plus 2 clips, resisting being disarmed after interfering with ICE operations .

2 minutes ago, JerryM said:

AI Gemini:

The Government's Claim: Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem and federal officials claimed Pretti interfered with their operations by approaching agents with a handgun and resisting arrest.

The Controversy: Multiple bystander videos and witness testimonies contradict the government’s account. These reports suggest Pretti was recording the interaction on his phone and was pepper-sprayed before being shot. While he reportedly owned a firearm and had a permit to carry, witnesses state he did not brandish a weapon.

He did interfere with the operation and he was armed. No, he wasn't "brandishing" the weapon which is clear but nevertheless he was armed and actively engaged with the officers. As for being licenced to carry concealed this is true and as such he would have known to have disclosed this fact. He would also have known that when carrying concealed by Minnesotan law one MUST carry the licence or some oither form of ID which it seems he didn't have on him.

58 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

He did interfere with the operation and he was armed. No, he wasn't "brandishing" the weapon which is clear but nevertheless he was armed and actively engaged with the officers. As for being licenced to carry concealed this is true and as such he would have known to have disclosed this fact. He would also have known that when carrying concealed by Minnesotan law one MUST carry the licence or some oither form of ID which it seems he didn't have on him.

Yes, a lot of unanswered questions. This why an independent investigation should be done. And we all know who is against this.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting that a places like Texas and Florida where 10x the amount of illegal aliens are being arrested don't have the problems seen in Minneapolis.

Do you have an explanation for this?

1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:

Yes, a lot of unanswered questions. This why an independent investigation should be done. And we all know who is against this.

Nothing is stopping anyone from doing an independent investigation.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

As for being licenced to carry concealed this is true and as such he would have known to have disclosed this fact. He would also have known that when carrying concealed by Minnesotan law one MUST carry the licence or some oither form of ID which it seems he didn't have on him.

Regulations pertaining to having a CCW permit in Minnesota

The permit holder must have the permit card and a valid driver’s license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document when requested by a peace officer.

Upon request of a peace officer, a permit holder must disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.

https://protectmn.org/minnesota-permit-to-carry-laws

The "protestors" obstruct, harass, antagonize and terrorize ICE, and then they are surprised when things like this happen.

RIP young man

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Until there is very enhanced video of what happened is that scrum no simple conclusions can be made ^. IE. Was he trying to grab one of the ICE guns? Did it appear that he was reaching for a weapon he had? In both cases shooting could be justified. What is known is bringing hand gun + plus 2 clips, resisting being disarmed after interfering with ICE operations .

What is also known is that 1) he was shot 5 times in the back after having had his gun taken from him, 2) another ICE shooter then put a further 5 rounds into his body when he was lying on the ground.

Am I alone in seeing the irony in referring to these two (out of control) gunmen, along with the rest of the pepper spraying individuals and the thugs who just piled in anticipating giving him a good shoeing, as "peace officers"?

11 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Do you have an explanation for this?

State and federal law forces cooperating.

Nazi America has arrived.

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

State and federal law forces cooperating.

And the citizenry not terrorizing the agents

Border Patrol in Minneapolis intended to “kill law enforcement” officers and that agents “fired defensive shots” to protect themselves from him.

Noem made those comments during a press conference on Saturday evening.

Noem said the Border Patrol agents were conducting an operation to apprehend a violent illegal immigrant when the man who was shot — identified as Alex Pretti — interfered with the operation.

“An individual approached officers with a 9-millimeter semi automatic handgun,” Noem said.

“The officers attempted to disarm this individual but the armed suspect reacted violently. Fearing for his life and for the lives of his fellow officers around him, an agent fired defensive shots.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kristi-noem-claims-ice-agent-231130092.html?

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And the citizenry not terrorizing the agents

Yeah, one guy holding a small camera against 6 agents must have been terrifying for them

6 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Yeah, one guy holding a small camera against 6 agents must have been terrifying for them

Except that it wasn't "one guy holding a small camera".

2 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

And Trump is the filthiest player of all.

Not necessarily.

Because you don't see all the shadowy players behind the scenes.

Trump is in the news every day.

There A LOT of shadowy men on this shadowy planet.

10 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Yeah, one guy holding a small camera against 6 agents must have been terrifying for them

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Except that it wasn't "one guy holding a small camera".

https://www.facebook.com/reel/25651112094549145

So:

2017: Riots

2018: Riots

2019: Riots

2020: Riots

2021: No riots

2022: No riots

2023: No riots

2024: No riots

2025: Riots

2026: Riots

The left does not get what they want, we have riots. The left wants open borders, mass migration, and they need stop Trump from successfully deporting illegal aliens.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Except that it wasn't "one guy holding a small camera".

Beg to differ, the video footage of the incident shows ONE GUY on his own - slammed to the ground by multiple agents and then shot 10 times !!! - 5 of which into his already lifeless body