Man shot dead by federal agents in Minneapolis

21 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

now I get to say it "OFF TOPIC"

No, TRUMP gets to say it. "Never mind those Epstein files, folks! Put them out of your minds! I have! Look, instead, at the huge, deadly mess I have created in Minneapolis! Concentrate on that, for heaven's sake! I am! And, besides, there is nothing in the files anyway, which is why I am fighting so hard for you to keep you from seeing them! Waste of your time! Now, if you have a minute, I'm selling genuine MAGA hats that I have personally worn for just $99.99! Step right up!"

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Ahhh, the Hitler card again....

Yeah 2 deaths vs 25m. Same same

Over on the notorius neo-Nazi site Stormfront they are ectstaic about ICE in Minnesota - ICE is probably recruiting many far right activists spoiling for a fight. I wont post the link here but you can get to it via the wiki page if you want to dive further into the online madness Trump is incubating. The really hate Jews over there so they are celebarting the fact that Pretti might have been one.

41 minutes ago, newnative said:

Why are they murdering citizens when they are unarmed, have been subdued, and are no threat?

Stress of being a cop and all the bs it entails + carrying a gun = recipe for the occasional disaster

To me, the Renee Good killing looked like the ICE guy has been working too hard for too little pay and sick of all the bs and he lost his cool in the heat of the moment.

NOT a fascist plot by Trump.

But I could be wrong.

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

if you want to dive further into the online madness Trump is incubating.

Has nothing to do with Trump if there are a bunch of racists out there.

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

Over on the notorius neo-Nazi site Stormfront they are ectstaic about ICE in Minnesota - ICE is probably recruiting many far right activists spoiling for a fight. I wont post the link here but you can get to it via the wiki page if you want to dive further into the online madness Trump is incubating.

Not nearly as ecstatic as the left in there gaslighting for the midterms

Just now, save the frogs said:

Has nothing to do with Trump if there are a bunch of racists out there.

To the left, everting is Trump.

They want mass migration and open borders.

Just now, save the frogs said:

Has nothing to do with Trump if there are a bunch of racists out there.

There is no MAGA firewall just plausible deniability - he needs the violent facist street mob for his works so he dog whistles away and they hear it.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Has nothing to do with Trump if there are a bunch of racists out there.

told ja

23 minutes ago, seajae said:

he pulled a gun on ice agents, he had 2 spare mags ready, he wasnt there for a peaceful time, he found that FAFO is a real thing, wouldnt be surprised it comes out that he intended to shoot ice agents, the left have been pushing for it and looks like some are listening to them.

No, he didn't pull a gun. It was tucked away, ice took it and shot him 10 times

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

There is no MAGA firewall just plausible deniability - he needs the violent facist street mob for his works so he dog whistles away and they hear it.

Those idiots on that link you posted were asking if the guy's name was Italian or Jewish. Do you really think the ICE guys can tell someone's ethnicity, even if they cared?

And even more delusional linking this silly conspiracy back to Trump.

Just silly and stupid.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

To the left, everting is Trump.

They want mass migration and open borders.

So that lie is all you have left.

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

There is no MAGA firewall just plausible deniability

But that's not Trump or even MAGA.

It's just a bunch of idiots.

A lot of idiots support Trump. Doesn't mean Trump is an idiot.

You are using faulty logic and loose associations.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

told ja

Ha you slipped into German on your reply and gave it away.

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Ha you slipped into German on your reply and gave it away.

I'm German, so? Does that mean I love Hitler the way you love Stalin?

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Those idiots on that link you posted were asking if the guy's name was Italian or Jewish. Do you really think the ICE guys can tell someone's ethnicity, even if they cared?

And even more delusional linking this silly conspiracy back to Trump.

Just silly and stupid.

The point is many on the extreme far right are getting super excited by ICE violence, and a good proportion will be joining given the lax recruitment methods - J6 prisoners amongst them. Street mobs get very over-represented by thugs as it's they who want to join and then are encouraged by those already in. It's basically a Trump paramilitary force in creation, doing his work. Rough justice at best - state terror at worst

Sorry it seems to have been added to the qoute and I couldn't change it so have italicised my reply.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm German, so? Does that mean I love Hitler the way you love Stalin?

I didn't know that ! I've never loved Stalin - if you can find the post where I did I would be interested.

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

The point is many on the extreme far right are getting super excited by ICE violence, and a good proportion will be joining given the lax recruitment methods

ok.

22 hours ago, dinsdale said:

You can actually see the gun after he'd been disarmed of it. If you're going to make comments on this I'd suggest you watch some videos.

Totally missing the point. The gun was concealed, and he had permission to carry it. Since you agree it was concealed, ICE had no idea he had a gun when they violently intervened when the nurse tried to aid the woman they had thrown to the ground. Still not knowing he had a gun, they sprayed him in the face with a chemical, and then a number of them threw him to he ground and held him on the ground. That is when they discovered the gun and, collectively went, how dare him have a gun! Then, with him unarmed, they shot him 9 or 10 times as punishment, murdering him. This is why you are seeing thousands and thousands of people in the bitter, freezing cold marching in the streets.

On 1/25/2026 at 9:27 AM, dinsdale said:

So not the people attacking, agitating and trying to stop federal officers from carrying out their duties. Right. As for "Gestapo" you do realise what the actual Gestapo would do don't you? Protests be it peaceful or violent would have stopped long ago and the protesters would have been lined up and shot en masse.

Give them time! This is all leading to the cancellation of the mid-terms. Seen this playbook before somewhere.

2 hours ago, JAG said:

What is also known is that 1) he was shot 5 times in the back after having had his gun taken from him, 2) another ICE shooter then put a further 5 rounds into his body when he was lying on the ground.

Am I alone in seeing the irony in referring to these two (out of control) gunmen, along with the rest of the pepper spraying individuals and the thugs who just piled in anticipating giving him a good shoeing, as "peace officers"?

Yes if very enhanced video does not show him trying to grab an ICE gun or obviously going for a weapon on himself then appropriate charges against the ICE. Say again this DHS is a Mish mash mess. I'm very familiar with Customs as an inspector and the training and "on the job " of Customs and Immigration. This ICE business has nothing to do with Customs and used to be the domain of immigration agents , detention and removal. As a different category than immigration special agents,criminal investigators. So just quietly expanding the immigration agents category was all that was required. Before Customs was Dept of Treasury and immigration was Justice. And should have stayed that way. And also can say that unlike Customs - Immigration is full of jerks

50 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I didn't know that ! I've never loved Stalin - if you can find the post where I did I would be interested.

Who do you love?

It is amusing the left says it's "the extreme far right" that are super excited about "ICE violence", given it seems the extreme far left are much more excited.

Maybe the extreme far left should join ICE and reform it.

Government killing their own citizens must be condemned as a serious violation of international law and human rights. It is a crime against humanity. Trump can end this violence.

MAGAs' attempts to justify (or to distract attention from) this infamous killing are so pathetic! 😅

37 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Who do you love?

My wife till death us do part and in sickness and health - the rock of my life.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15496839/Barack-Obama-Alex-Pretti-shooting-Trump-Minnesota.html

On 1/25/2026 at 8:49 AM, lordgrinz said:

On 1/25/2026 at 8:43 AM, Patong2021 said:

Why bring a firearm to a peaceful protest where law enforcement are confronted? Yes, he had a permit to carry, but why take a handgun to a protest Another needless gun related death. The USA is tearing itself apart.

Then also actively obstruct officers, which is a crime, now he is committing a crime and carrying a loaded weapon, nothing good can come from that.....again, Darwinism.

If you have a concealed carry permit, aren't you perfectly entitled to carry a gun, no matter what your intentions? I do agree it might complicate things if you end up being detained/ searched by any other armed officials.

In terms of the sequence of events and I do not want to imply any intention, he was disarmed and then shot, perhaps 8 times.

ICE Shooting Open Thread

This one has some ideas, backed up my slow-mo analysis (IAMNE)

Minnesota Shooting Seemingly Caused By Accident

The upshot of the above seems to be: Pretti was disarmed. Pretti's gun discharged once by the ICE officer holding the gun. Someone says "Gun". Pretti shot 8 more times.

On 1/25/2026 at 9:35 AM, Hummin said:

On 1/25/2026 at 9:32 AM, Bday Prang said:

not illegal ones, there is a differece even if you and your sort can't see it, and even if they did "build America" it does not give them the right to destroy it

The things is, innocent being sent out, and you know it, that's why it is protests

In the context of "illegal immigrant/ immigration", does "innocent" here refer to being in the USA legally, yet still being arrested &/ or deported?