Man shot dead by federal agents in Minneapolis

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

If I had been in VN it would have been because I'd seriously lost my way , as I'm not even American lol

Go on tell us , How many did you waste ? What's your body count I bet its impressive

Typical response from someone ignorant of the whole shebang!

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

In FY2023, Biden’s last year, ICE arrested 4,390 sex offenders

In FY2024, Trump’s first year, ICE arrested 16,552 sex offenders

 

 

ICE has been around for over twenty years, but all the sudden, per the left, they are an enemy of the people and a threat to democracy.

Notice how everything and everyone that goes against the left is a threat to democracy?

Voter ID? Threat to democracy.

Close the border? Threat to democracy.

Deport illegal aliens? Theat to democracy.

Keep men out of girls' showers? Threat to democracy.

Protest an election? Threat to democracy.

Prosecute criminals? Threat to democracy.

Investigate fraud? Threat to democracy.

Meritocracy? Theat to democracy.

Capitalism? Threat to democracy.

The left wants open borders, mass migration, and complete control. If they have to destroy the lives of over 20,000 ICE agents and their families, so be it.

Interestingly there are no cries of a threat to democracy when federal laws are ignored and anarchists are being enabled to take over the streets.

9 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Trump may be exaggerating. Most may not be hardcore criminals, but just being illegal is considered a crime now.

you need to check US laws, being an illegal doesn't have to be a criminal case, a civil one depending on circumstances. but if you mean that is how DJT is treating them yes he does think they are criminals IMHO and he wants the ICE murderers to get rid of all of them but that is against the US Constitution and if you don't believe that, then you need to read the articles of said document.

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

you need to check US laws, being an illegal doesn't have to be a criminal case, a civil one depending on circumstances. but if you mean that is how DJT is treating them yes he does think they are criminals IMHO and he wants the ICE murderers to get rid of all of them but that is against the US Constitution and if you don't believe that, then you need to read the articles of said document.

How is deporting illegal aliens against the US Constitution?

15 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I bet everyone knows what Good and Pretti looks like.

I did not look at the individual photos and only saw a group of pretty women as you posted no reference as to who the are/were!.

Typical of a yank to expect all the non yank members of AN to have any idea of what that collection of photos was meant to be!

16 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

Quite right. Citizens, lawful or otherwise, should live in mortal fear of government.

I am much more afraid of the average idiot on the street.

I have nearly been attacked on several occasions for no apparent reason.

Many people are angry, frustrated with their lives, and dangerous.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How is deporting illegal aliens against the US Constitution?

Its not and they always ignore the clear language of 18 USC 1325 that makes being illegally in the country a crime.

6 minutes ago, Presnock said:

you need to check US laws, being an illegal doesn't have to be a criminal case, a civil one depending on circumstances

You are wrong. 18 USC 1325, and I challenge you to show us show us otherwise.

Just now, scottiejohn said:

I did not look at the individual photos and only saw a group of pretty women as you posted no reference as to who the are/were!.

Typical yank to expect all the non yank members of AN to have any idea of what that collection was meant to be!

I'm not a Yank I just don't rely on MSM for my news but fair enough I should have added these young women and a boy were sexually assaulted and murdered by illegal aliens. Maybe ICE should stop deporting people like this and send them to blue states and cities and make sure they never leave. Let's see how safe the people will feel then. Oh wait. There are already people like this in the blue states and cities and ICE are trying to get them.

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

fair enough I should have added these young women and a boy were sexually assaulted and murdered by illegal aliens.

Thank you!

5 hours ago, transam said:

Yep, it is appalling, a guy is executed, and they lie about it..........Shameful Trump team.

Now that is two killings they have lied about...........😬

Actually 3 killings they have lied about. They called a death in one of their prison camps a suicide but the coroner has said the prisoner died from 'neck and torso compression' and ruled the death a homicide.

24 minutes ago, newnative said:

Actually 3 killings they have lied about. They called a death in one of their prison camps a suicide but the coroner has said the prisoner died from 'neck and torso compression' and ruled the death a homicide.

Oh no,

Recent ICE Enforcement Actions

In Fiscal Year 2023, ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) arrested 73,822 noncitizens with criminal histories. The associated charges and convictions for this group included: 

• Homicide: 1,713 charges or convictions.

• Sexual Assault/Sex Offenses: 4,390 charges or convictions. 

Get rid of the ICE agents and OPEN those borders to mass immigration I say ...poor refugees

44 minutes ago, newnative said:

Actually 3 killings they have lied about. They called a death in one of their prison camps a suicide but the coroner has said the prisoner died from 'neck and torso compression' and ruled the death a homicide.

Sure did ...I hope they bring in mass immigration so America ends up with lower wages , I hope millions arrive ,I agree with you NN , open those borders up please

Yellowtail is giving misleading figures. He wrote:

In FY2023, Biden’s last year, ICE arrested 4,390 sex offenders

In FY2024, Trump’s first year, ICE arrested 16,552 sex offenders

But financial year 2024 was still Biden in charge.

• FY 2023 (Oct. 2022 – Sept. 2023): ICE reported 4,390 administrative arrests of noncitizens with charges or convictions for sexual assault.

• FY 2024 (Oct. 2023 – Sept. 2024): ICE reported 18,579 administrative arrests for sexual assault and sex offenses. Of these, 16,552 resulted in removals (deportations). 

• President Biden served the full duration of both FY 2023 and FY 2024.

  Trump Administration: Donald Trump was inaugurated for his second term on January 20, 2025. Consequently, his first full year in office (FY 2026) began on October 1, 2025, and is currently ongoing. 

MAGA CNN commentator Brad Todd admitted Monday that Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem spread a wild falsehood in the aftermath of a federal immigration agent fatally shooting 37-year-old nurse Alex Pretti in Minneapolis.

Todd called out Noem's baseless claims that Pretti had "brandished" a weapon despite video taken by witnesses showing the opposite. If the Second Amendment says that you have the right to keep and bear arms, which means you can have it anywhere you are legally and lawfully allowed to be, unless you've proven to be a threat to yourself or others already," Todd said.

"I think you also have to go back to what Kristi Noem said yesterday, that he was 'brandishing' the weapon. That's absolutely not true. Unless it happened before the video we saw then. He was not brandishing the weapon," Todd added.

MAGA commentator admits Kristi Noem spread falsehood over ICE killing

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

Yellowtail is giving misleading figures. He wrote:

In FY2023, Biden’s last year, ICE arrested 4,390 sex offenders

In FY2024, Trump’s first year, ICE arrested 16,552 sex offenders

But financial year 2024 was still Biden in charge.

• FY 2023 (Oct. 2022 – Sept. 2023): ICE reported 4,390 administrative arrests of noncitizens with charges or convictions for sexual assault.

• FY 2024 (Oct. 2023 – Sept. 2024): ICE reported 18,579 administrative arrests for sexual assault and sex offenses. Of these, 16,552 resulted in removals (deportations). 

• President Biden served the full duration of both FY 2023 and FY 2024.

  Trump Administration: Donald Trump was inaugurated for his second term on January 20, 2025. Consequently, his first full year in office (FY 2026) began on October 1, 2025, and is currently ongoing. 

No, FY 2024 was Oct. 2024 – Sept. 2025, but nice try

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting that I got a thumbs down for showing American citizens who were murder victims of illegal aliens. Just goes to show the moral bankruptcy of some. No virtue signaling in showing this I guess just as MSM ignores these innocent victims because it doesn't fit the narrative.

• Arrest and Conviction Rates: In Texas—the only state that comprehensively tracks criminal status by immigration status—undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born citizens for violent and drug crimes, and roughly one-quarter the rate for property crimes.

• Homicide: A 10-year analysis (2013–2022) found the homicide conviction rate for undocumented immigrants was 2.2 per 100,000, compared to 3.0 per 100,000 for native-born Americans.

  is illegal immigrant crime rate higher than that of us citizens? - Google Search

  Of course there is a percentage of illegal immigrants that commit crimes. Humans of every race commit crimes. Bus as seen above, their crime rate is lower than that of native-born Americans.

  Someone could post photos of Thai people killed by drunk farang drivers and Thai women murdered by jealous farang boyfriends.

• Then they could start a thread- deport all farangs.

3 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

No don't they don't. They have the record the incident and report it. Then the courts sort it out.

DHS has given them blanket immunity. They can do no wrong.

Always believe the government. Never the question the government, because the government is always truthful.

4 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

It was lawfare.

it was long overdue legal prosecution, and the verdicts proves it as well as the witness testimony.

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

Typical response from someone ignorant of the whole shebang!

Obviously I am ignorant of your kill rate as you won't say what it is, I was hoping it would be impressive , maybe its not , were you not a very good shot?

Or were you, in reality, rejected due to your "spurs" just like anybody else suffering that condition was rejected , including your president,, so don't feel too bad, at least you're in good company

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

Homicide: A 10-year analysis (2013–2022) found the homicide conviction rate for undocumented immigrants was 2.2 per 100,000, compared to 3.0 per 100,000 for native-born Americans.

So if there were no undocumented immigrants murdering people there would have been around 33% less murders per 100,000 in that 10 year period?

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The "fact" is that Trump recording 11 payments totaling $130K to reimburse his lawyer for securing a perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement was turned into 34 felonies.

cry to someone that believes your bs. I don't. if it were perfectly legal a grand jury wouldn't have moved to indict him and he would have won the cases in court. Didn't quite work out like that because hey, he broke the law and got caught. put a diaper on it

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

• Arrest and Conviction Rates: In Texas—the only state that comprehensively tracks criminal status by immigration status—undocumented immigrants are arrested at less than half the rate of native-born citizens for violent and drug crimes, and roughly one-quarter the rate for property crimes.

• Homicide: A 10-year analysis (2013–2022) found the homicide conviction rate for undocumented immigrants was 2.2 per 100,000, compared to 3.0 per 100,000 for native-born Americans.

  is illegal immigrant crime rate higher than that of us citizens? - Google Search

  Of course there is a percentage of illegal immigrants that commit crimes. Humans of every race commit crimes. Bus as seen above, their crime rate is lower than that of native-born Americans.

  Someone could post photos of Thai people killed by drunk farang drivers and Thai women murdered by jealous farang boyfriends.

• Then they could start a thread- deport all farangs.

The study that showing that half the rate of native-born citizens for violent and drug crimes, and roughly one-quarter the rate for property crimes is a phony two-year study in only a small part of the state. It's bullsh*t.

Apprehending and or convicting illegal aliens is much more difficult than citizens, and only about a third of murders result in convictions, assuming your numbers are correct, illegal by aliens murder about 7 per 100,000, so deporting a million saves 70 lives.

In any event, every crime committed by an illegal alien is a crime that would not be committed but for illegal immigration.

Why do you suppose Texas is the only state that tracks criminal status by immigration status?

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On 1/25/2026 at 9:08 AM, dinsdale said:

An excellent example of the leftists rhetoric that adds fuel to the fire and ends up with people being killed.

Yes, damn protestors in Boston some 250 years agp, then the underground railroad, huge protest resulting in civil war, then lynching protest, Jim Crow Law protests, Pars protesting on bus, Civil Rights, Vietnam protests. Damn liberal troublemakers. Why don’t they just keep the peace and do what they are told by authority?! RESIST …

53 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

So if there were no undocumented immigrants murdering people there would have been around 33% less murders per 100,000 in that 10 year period?

• Murder Conviction Rates (Texas 2016 per 100,000):

  • Native-born Americans: 3.2

  • Illegal Immigrants: 1.8

  • Legal Immigrants: 0.9 

  including legal migrants in the murder figures for Texas, for example, illegals committed 30.5% of the murders in 2016.

  So yes, more people, more murders. More activity in the economy too.

  The removal of approximately 8.3 million undocumented workers (about 5% of the U.S. workforce) would result in a substantial contraction of the economy: 

  • GDP Decline: Estimates suggest U.S. GDP would shrink by 2.6% to 7.4% over the next decade, representing a loss of $1.1 trillion to $1.7 trillion. For context, the U.S. GDP shrank by 4.3% during the Great Recession.

  • Sector Disruptions: Agriculture and construction would be hit hardest, potentially losing 14% to 25% of their respective workforces, leading to food price inflation as high as 9%.

  • Secondary Job Losses: Research suggests that for every 1 million undocumented workers deported, roughly 88,000 U.S.-born workers could lose their jobs due to business closures and reduced consumer demand. 

• The U.S. economy would lose the following annual tax contributions previously paid by undocumented households: 

  • Total Taxes: Approximately $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.

  • Social Safety Net: Contributions include $22.6 billion to Social Security and $5.7 billion to Medicare.

  • Spending Power: A loss of roughly $256.8 billion in annual household spending power. 

  However, the Trump admin argues that removals of illegals will eventually lower housing costs and increase real wages for blue-collar American workers, with some reports claiming real wage growth of 4.2% in 2025. 

how much would the removal of all illegal immigrants cost the US economy? - Google Search

3 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Yes, damn protestors in Boston some 250 years agp, then the underground railroad, huge protest resulting in civil war, then lynching protest, Jim Crow Law protests, Pars protesting on bus, Civil Rights, Vietnam protests. Damn liberal troublemakers. Why don’t they just keep the peace and do what they are told by authority?! RESIST …

Somehow, you are trying to paint those who are against enforcing immigration law as noble. Why is that? Are you pro-open borders and unlimited immigration?

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

The U.S. economy would lose the following annual tax contributions previously paid by undocumented households: 

• Total Taxes: Approximately $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes.

• Social Safety Net: Contributions include $22.6 billion to Social Security and $5.7 billion to Medicare.

• Spending Power: A loss of roughly $256.8 billion in annual household spending power. 

If they are "undocumented", how do you know this?

4 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

Please explain which laws allow U.S. citizens to interfere with law enforcement.

To stick with the topic...