Ocasio-Cortez Leaves Door Open to 2028 Presidential Run

39 minutes ago, JAG said:

the "Save" act will be to make it considerably more practically difficult for married women ( particularly relatively newly married ones, who have taken their husband's surnames ) to register to vote!

So a marriage certificate showing the name change would be no good then? It's a legal document showing a change of name from maiden name to married name. This along with photo ID etc. is all that's needed. The "newlywed" narrative is a false narrative that you have bought into. It's simply a matter of proving who you are and getting your surname changed (as shown on the wedding cert) on the electoral roll. I'm sure there's a form to fill out but so what. A newly married person can still vote using their newly acquired married name.

This happens all over the democratic world.

16 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You believe a person that is 20 is a lot wiser and would make better president, than that same person would at 60?

What "bold change"? Did you like any of Trump's attempts at bold chang? In the US, "bold change" is meant to be difficult.

What is the benefit of younger voters being energized?

I still wake up every day happy Harris did not win. I would rather it had been DeSantis, but it is what it is.

You yanks did have a great president but you killed him November 22, 1963

you are just being ridiculous if you think some one in there 20s would even take the job !!

I do not like trump and you yanks can not see that he is a narcissist craves power and is obsessed with nukes you are going to have a hell of a time trying to remove him when the time comes

you must be old as trump if you can not see that today's world belongs to the young they will shape the future or are you so cynical

We can only hope the horse face will run.

Massie Kennedy 2028

Massie MacGregor 2028

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

So a marriage certificate showing the name change would be no good then? It's a legal document showing a change of name from maiden name to married name. This along with photo ID etc. is all that's needed. The "newlywed" narrative is a false narrative that you have bought into. It's simply a matter of proving who you are and getting your surname changed (as shown on the wedding cert) on the electoral roll. I'm sure there's a form to fill out but so what. A newly married person can still vote using their newly acquired married name.

This happens all over the democratic world.

Wrong again !!!! you need to know what you are posting

Under the SAVE Act, anyone who has changed their name after birth will face increased barriers to voting. That’s because this bill requires voters who don’t have a passport to present a birth certificate that matches the name on their REAL ID or driver’s license. This is particularly relevant for married women who legally change their last name after marriage, and trans people, who will often change their name during or after transitioning.  

That means if you’re one of the approximately 69 million married women in the United States who decided to take her husband’s last name, you may have a really hard time getting into the voting booth since the last name on your birth certificate is different than the REAL ID with your husband’s last name. It’s also extremely harmful for trans people to have to consider changing their I.D.s back to a name and gender they don’t identify with just to exercise their right to vote. 

24 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

And you don't think that Josh Shapiro, Andy Beshear or even Gretchen Whitmer would be viable candidates that a plurality of Americans could relate to?

Yes, I do. Beshear is my #1. But he does not seem interested. High quality individuals do not seek that office anymore as it's so incredibly toxic. I think Beshear simply might be too noble for the office. Shapiro is viable. Though his nearly unconditional support for Israel might work against him.

Anyone else out there? I like Mark Kelly. He has solid credentials, he's a true American hero, in contrast to the grossly corrupt, highly unstable and unpatriotic circus clown currently in office, and he would likely beat the pants off of Vance, who is a major light weight and phony.

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

So a marriage certificate showing the name change would be no good then? It's a legal document showing a change of name from maiden name to married name. This along with photo ID etc. is all that's needed. The "newlywed" narrative is a false narrative that you have bought into. It's simply a matter of proving who you are and getting your surname changed (as shown on the wedding cert) on the electoral roll. I'm sure there's a form to fill out but so what. A newly married person can still vote using their newly acquired married name.

This happens all over the democratic world.

Interesting that so far I've got 1 thumbs down and a broken heart emoji for posting what is ostensibly reality. How about someone say what I posted about marriage certificates isn't the case. It's a ridiculous argument. You move to a different electorate you need to reregister. You change your name you need to reregister. No biggie people have to do it all the time all over the world.

10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

You yanks did have a great president but you killed him November 22, 1963

What was great about him?

10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

you are just being ridiculous if you think some one in there 20s would even take the job !!

I would have taken it when I was 20, but like all leftists you dodge the question.

10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

I do not like trump and you yanks can not see that he is a narcissist craves power and is obsessed with nukes you are going to have a hell of a time trying to remove him when the time comes

Really, a leftist that does not like Trump?

10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

you must be old as trump if you can not see that today's world belongs to the young they will shape the future or are you so cynical

Right. How many kids do you have?

Why not. Just make the US more of a laughing stock of the world than it already is. I'd be surprised if she could find Russia and China on a map, no less than Iran. Let's not even talk about individual countries in Africa or Latin America. Hell, I'll vote for her <cue sound of toilet flushing>. America has already gone down the crapper. Might was well finish the job. Don't get me wrong, the Republicans don't have anyone better. Everyone is bought and paid for in Washington DC including AOC. Isn't she a millionaire like the rest of Congress now?

6 hours ago, dinsdale said:

She's definitely "low IQ". She thinks the American revolution was a revolution from the left where in actual fact it was chiefly from the Founding Fathers.

George Carlin succinctly summarised the War of Independence as white folks fighting other white folks so the former could keep a hold of their black folks, etc., etc..

Then there was the Civil War....

3 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

She might be right !! if we do nothing against climate change it might end in 12 years seems to be insightfull

We had 10 years left ...20 years ago.

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting that so far I've got 1 thumbs down and a broken heart emoji for posting what is ostensibly reality. How about someone say what I posted about marriage certificates isn't the case. It's a ridiculous argument. You move to a different electorate you need to reregister. You change your name you need to reregister. No biggie people have to do it all the time all over the world.

Marriage certs DO NOT SHOW THE WOMANS MARRIED NAME ONLY HER MAIDEN NAME

no wonder you get thumbs down

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

We had 10 years left ...20 years ago.

oh wow will have to clean that crystal ball again !!!

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

oh wow will have to clean that crystal ball again !!!

Exactly. Seems your 8 ball isnt producing the results you want.

5 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

That means if you’re one of the approximately 69 million married women in the United States who decided to take her husband’s last name, you may have a really hard time getting into the voting booth

Nope. You register or reregister a name change or address change before voting. The odd thing is, and I'm just guessing, more Republican voters are getting married than Democrat voters. Fairly sure anyone recently married or have changed their name or address can re-enroll under their new name/address pretty much hassle free. Apply for a job and you need quite a bit of ID. Like I say this happens everywhere.

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Nope. You register or reregister a name change or address change before voting. The odd thing is, and I'm just guessing, more Republican voters are getting married than Democrat voters. Fairly sure anyone recently married or have changed their name or address can re-enroll under their new name/address pretty much hassle free. Apply for a job and you need quite a bit of ID. Like I say this happens everywhere.

READ the SAVE act it is in plain English you really need to stop posting rubbish you are only embarrassing yourself

https://nwlc.org/how-the-save-act-could-disenfranchise-millions-of-married-women-and-trans-voters/

10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Marriage certs DO NOT SHOW THE WOMANS MARRIED NAME ONLY HER MAIDEN NAME

Correct but it's still a legal document of name change as both spouses names on on the certificate.

AI Overview

Yes, a certified marriage certificate is a legal document used to change your name after marriage in most jurisdictions, including the U.S. and UK. It serves as proof of the name change for updating official records like Social Security, driver's licenses, and passports, allowing you to adopt a spouse's surname or a hyphenated name without a court order.

6 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Again Another stupid post from you full of self assumptions how do you know she is low IQ ?? how do you know as a fact that she thinks the American revolution was a revolution from the left just rubbish !!

AOC is dumb.

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

READ the SAVE act it is in plain English you really need to stop posting rubbish you are only embarrassing yourself

https://nwlc.org/how-the-save-act-could-disenfranchise-millions-of-married-women-and-trans-voters/

National Women's Law Centre. I might be going out on a limb here but my guess is this is a leftist activist organisation.

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Harris as a running mate, wouldn't that be a hoot 🙄

"Do you think WW 12 could be avoided ?"

... "We're open for that discussion in the future"

6 hours ago, dinsdale said:

She's definitely "low IQ". She thinks the American revolution was a revolution from the left where in actual fact it was chiefly from the Founding Fathers.

I'm afraid that young woman has the IQ equivalent to a sack of wet pea-gravel. But it would be a grand addition to a so-called United States where she'd be among the top-caliber of like-IQ'ed progressive liberal millennials with post-grad degrees in the likes of gender studies, a couple hundred grand in student debt, a resume as a bartender or a barista, and no chance to ever aspire to anything resembling "The America Dream", well unless they can get elected to Congress which is pretty much a meal-ticket to the Congressional Millionaire's Club (your AIPAC minder says to short oil futures this Tuesday as Trump will announce the "End Of The Iran War" for the 40th time). I'd say she's near perfect.

Eat The Rich Baby! <hee haw>

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Correct but it's still a legal document of name change as both spouses names on on the certificate.

AI Overview

Yes, a certified marriage certificate is a legal document used to change your name after marriage in most jurisdictions, including the U.S. and UK. It serves as proof of the name change for updating official records like Social Security, driver's licenses, and passports, allowing you to adopt a spouse's surname or a hyphenated name without a court order.

Of course a marriage cert is a legal doc there is no dispute about that

I assume AOC is of reasonable intelligence. She came from a rich family and graduated cum laude with a BA.

Just now, MikeandDow said:

Of course a marriage cert is a legal doc there is no dispute about that

There you go then so why does being a newlywed hamper newlyweds from voting? Got the wedding cert, social security number, birth cert or passport and all should be sweet if you're a US citizen.

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

National Women's Law Centre. I might be going out on a limb here but my guess is this is a leftist activist organisation.

The save act is basically for woman or men who have changed there name from there birth cert to re register now how to do that is they have to prove there are American citizens one way to do that is a passport !! BUT 50% of Americans don't have a passport so if you are a woman who does not have a passport but have a birth cert but its in your maidens name what next can you see the difficulty now ???

7 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

There you go then so why does being a newlywed hamper newlyweds from voting? Got the wedding cert, social security number, birth cert or passport and all should be sweet if you're a US citizen.

You really deserve thumbs down you must admit that

46 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Then there was the Civil War....

Are you referring to the two European Civil Wars? WW1 and WW2?

4 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

The save act is basically for woman or men who have changed there name from there birth cert

Nope. The Save Act is to make sure only US citizens vote in US federal elections. This is something the Democrats DO NOT want. Proving you're a citizen of the country you are voting in seems reasonable. Not sure if there's a country in the world this isn't the case.

21 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Nope. The Save Act is to make sure only US citizens vote in US federal elections. This is something the Democrats DO NOT want. Proving you're a citizen of the country you are voting in seems reasonable. Not sure if there's a country in the world this isn't the case.

The save act has a lot more that just that !! but the problem is how do you do that, as i already explaned to you but you dont seem to comprhend that

4 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

The save act has a lot more that just that !! but the problem is how do you do that, as i already explaned to you but you dont seem to comprhend that

Do you think illegal aliens should be deported?

Do you think they should be allowed to vote?

33 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Nope. The Save Act is to make sure only US citizens vote in US federal elections. This is something the Democrats DO NOT want. Proving you're a citizen of the country you are voting in seems reasonable. Not sure if there's a country in the world this isn't the case.

The goal of the save act is to limit voting.

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

The save act has a lot more that just that !! but the problem is how do you do that, as i already explaned to you but you dont seem to comprhend that

Nope. I understand. If you vote you must be a citizen which you have to prove. Same for all nations? So far no-one has stated any other nation where proof of citizenship is not required to enroll to vote.