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Rachel Reeves says US made ‘mistake’ entering war with Iran

UK Chancellor Rachel Reeves has said the United States made a “mistake” by abandoning diplomatic talks with Iran and entering into a military conflict, warning that the war risks severe economic consequences and has not made the world safer.

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Speaking at CNBC’s Invest in America forum in Washington, D.C., Reeves called for de-escalation, arguing that renewed diplomacy would provide the most effective path toward stability.

“The best economic policy now, not just for the UK but globally, is to de-escalate,” she said.

Her comments represent some of the strongest criticism from a senior British official since the United States launched military operations against Iran more than six weeks ago, in coordination with Israel.

Economic fallout and global concerns

The conflict has raised fears of a wider economic slowdown. The International Monetary Fund recently warned that the fighting could push the global economy toward recession, with the United Kingdom potentially among the hardest-hit advanced economies.

Energy prices have surged since hostilities began, largely because of disruption to shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, a critical route for global oil and gas exports.

Reeves said damage to energy infrastructure in the Middle East was already driving long-term economic risks.

She also confirmed that the UK government would not take part in the US-led military blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, which Washington has used as part of its strategy to pressure Iran.

“Our growth will be higher and inflation will be lower if the conflict comes to an end,” Reeves said, noting the UK’s vulnerability as a net importer of gas.

Diplomacy versus military action

Reeves said she shared the US administration’s concerns about Iran’s leadership but questioned the decision to abandon negotiations.

According to the chancellor, diplomatic channels had been open before the conflict began and offered a more effective route to addressing concerns over Iran’s nuclear programme.

“Iran does not currently have a nuclear weapon,” she said, adding that diplomacy was the best way to prevent it from acquiring one.

Reeves also criticised the lack of clarity about the US objectives in the war. She said it was unclear whether Washington aimed to force regime change, dismantle Iran’s nuclear program, or push Tehran back to the negotiating table.

The US has recently shifted its focus toward reopening the Strait of Hormuz to commercial shipping.

“If that’s the aim, well it was open a few weeks ago,” Reeves said.

Strains in the ‘special relationship’

Despite the disagreement, Reeves said relations between the UK and the US remained strong.

“Friends are allowed to disagree,” she said.

However, comments from US President Donald Trump suggested tensions between the allies.

Asked about the “special relationship” between the two countries in an interview with Sky News, Trump replied: “With who?”

He added that relations “had been better”, accusing Britain of failing to provide support when requested.

Meanwhile, the US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent defended the conflict, saying some economic damage was justified if it reduced security risks posed by Iran.

UK leaders seek path to ceasefire

Reeves said the UK prime minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron were due to hold talks aimed at ensuring safe navigation through the Strait of Hormuz if a ceasefire can be reached.

The IMF has already lowered its forecast for UK economic growth this year to 0.8%, down from a January estimate of 1.3%.

Despite the downgrade, Reeves said she remained confident the UK economy could outperform expectations.

Earlier this week she told the Daily Mirror she was “frustrated and angry” that the United States had entered the war without a clear exit strategy.

The UK government has also said it has no intelligence assessment indicating that Iran intends to target Europe with missiles.


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IsmeUno Platinum Member

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5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Seeing you have that poor memory, try and remember what I've said all along. If you can't, you can take some time and read it up. The other Americans have said much the same as I have for exactly the same reasons. We aren't assuming but live it everyday, even if we dislike or like Trump. Who's full of it is you, but being that personality type, you'll never admit defeat, but come back and look all the more foolish every day, so again, pester another, and see how they interact with you, as I'm done.

Please post it here. Contrary to your wild imagination, I have no interest in searching your posting history and scouring your posts in search for the relevant information.

So post a summary here for everyone to discuss or cut and paste the post from where you claim to have told us all earlier. Thank you.

Whilst you are at it...can you list the names of the 'other Americans' about whom you refer? Because the Americans I see here, are divided. So to which Americans are you referring?

Rockyroad Platinum Member

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6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Tell me who in Thailand is celebrating gasoline at 44 baht /litre, instead of 32 baht/litre. Fact. Tell me who in Australia is celebrating petrol at $2.50 a litre, before the war $1.60 a litre. Fact.

What will happen in the outcome of this conflict is a matter of opinion. Yours is worth no more than any other, although your nationalistic vanity wants to polish a turd.

You remind me of the cesilical elliptical oozle bird, in danger of disappearing up your own rectum.

Under $2 now and prices will fall further as greater supplies are sought from elsewhere.

fredwiggy Star Member

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2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Tell me who in Thailand is celebrating gasoline at 44 baht /litre, instead of 32 baht/litre. Fact. Tell me who in Australia is celebrating petrol at $2.50 a litre, before the war $1.60 a litre. Fact.

What will happen in the outcome of this conflict is a matter of opinion. Yours is worth no more than any other, although your nationalistic vanity wants to polish a turd.

You remind me of the cesilical elliptical oozle bird, in danger of disappearing up your own rectum.

Wars bring up prices. Where have you been? You're old enough not to degrade into childish insults, just because you haven't anything but you own opinions to go to, and a few AI links to support things we already knew. Americans know a lot more than you do about American happenings, although you do have those podcasts to go by, which, like you said, are opinions. You hate America, so admit to that, being prejudiced for no reason other than hating our leader, and stick with your opinions, which will be proven wrong in time. There are those who know very well what's going to happen in a lot of this conflict, as they're the ones in charge.

IsmeUno Platinum Member

IsmeUno

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5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Wars bring up prices. Where have you been? You're old enough not to degrade into childish insults, just because you haven't anything but you own opinions to go to, and a few AI links to support things we already knew. Americans know a lot more than you do about American happenings, although you do have those podcasts to go by, which, like you said, are opinions. You hate America, so admit to that, being prejudiced for no reason other than hating our leader, and stick with your opinions, which will be proven wrong in time. There are those who know very well what's going to happen in a lot of this conflict, as they're the ones in charge.

Again, so many words, without backing up your claim of knowing anything more than anyone else.

Try making a post with just facts about what the Trump administration is doing. You have told us that it's not about oil, but you knew the tankers would head to the US for oil. 😊

Why not tell us before it happens, rather than jumping on the bandwagon afterwards and then pretending that you knew it all before? 😊

Chomper Higgot Star Member

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1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

How do you explain the 60% enriched uranium?

It took place AFTER Trump tore up the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), releasing Iran from any constraints on its sovereign right to develop Nuclear weapons.

Nuclear armed Israel and nuclear Armed America have exercised the same right, only one of the three has ever used a nuclear weapon in war.

Eric Loh Star Member

Eric Loh

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22 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Under $2 now and prices will fall further as greater supplies are sought from elsewhere.

Australia was able to get some excess fuel from Malaysia, Brunei and South Korea on emergency bi-lateral basis. This just a stop gap effort and not a full time solution. Australia like others will still have to suffer conflict related reduction in supply. The projection is that gas price will still peak at $2.46 in weeks ahead.

IsmeUno Platinum Member

IsmeUno

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38 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Americans know a lot more than you do about American happenings, although you do have those podcasts to go by, which, like you said, are opinions. You hate America, so admit to that, being prejudiced for no reason other than hating our leader, and stick with your opinions, which will be proven wrong in time.

What about this American, @fredwiggy ?

dinsdale Star Member

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50 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Tell me who in Thailand is celebrating gasoline at 44 baht /litre, instead of 32 baht/litre. Fact. Tell me who in Australia is celebrating petrol at $2.50 a litre, before the war $1.60 a litre. Fact.

What will happen in the outcome of this conflict is a matter of opinion. Yours is worth no more than any other, although your nationalistic vanity wants to polish a turd.

You remind me of the cesilical elliptical oozle bird, in danger of disappearing up your own rectum.

Tell me who would celebrate if the maniac mullah's and the IRGC got nukes? What about the IRGC being able to close the Strait at will unless payment of extortion fees is handed over? Would you celebrate this?

Lacessit Star Member

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44 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Wars bring up prices. Where have you been? You're old enough not to degrade into childish insults, just because you haven't anything but you own opinions to go to, and a few AI links to support things we already knew. Americans know a lot more than you do about American happenings, although you do have those podcasts to go by, which, like you said, are opinions. You hate America, so admit to that, being prejudiced for no reason other than hating our leader, and stick with your opinions, which will be proven wrong in time. There are those who know very well what's going to happen in a lot of this conflict, as they're the ones in charge.

I don't hate America. I despise what it has become under Trump, a majority of weak-minded people who put a convicted felon into power, then defend him when he is taking a wrecking ball to anything decent.

You keep banging on about how much Americans know about America, as if it is some kind of juju against outside criticism.

21% of Americans are either low literacy or functionally illiterate. The Australian literacy rate is 99%. Don't tell me how knowledgeable you are.

IsmeUno Platinum Member

IsmeUno

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14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Tell me who would celebrate if the maniac mullah's and the IRGC got nukes? What about the IRGC being able to close the Strait at will unless payment of extortion fees is handed over? Would you celebrate this?

The only mad thing I see, is your wild imagination. I see Israel attacking Iran again and again over the years. I see the USA doing Israel's bidding. Whereas you have only 'what ifs'.

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1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

But again you're making assumptions, because you likely only know a handful of Americans, and cannot judge millions as being weak minded, even if they did vote for trump out of hope and seeing the other side was weaker. Why are you worried about America at all, as you're an Australian now living in Thailand, where little that goes on will ever affect you personally?

I never said others couldn't criticize America, as we Americans also do that. It's that you don't understand what living as an American means, or how it feels, and aren't up to speed as well as those that actually live there on goings on, and can only rely on a few news networks, who can be biased and often are.

I know a little of what goes on in Australia, and what they did to help us during the war, along with inventions, and would love to visit there to fish Cairns, but I haven't lived there, so can't assume how living as an Aussie feels, or what goes on politically there, even if I wanted to, as it would be opinions from others as well.

This is from AI, where I'm guessing you went but didn't read any further than the first line........While Australia has a high nominal literacy rate (approximately 99%), data from the OECD and Adult Learning Australia indicates that around 44% of Australian adults lack the necessary literacy skills for everyday life and work. This indicates a significant "functional literacy" gap, where many adults struggle with complex reading tasks, despite basic proficiency.Functional Literacy vs. Basic Literacy
While formal reporting often lists Australia at or near 99% literacy, this figure typically refers only to basic reading and writing abilities. The "functional literacy" issue indicates a significant portion of the population struggles with more complex tasks, such as interpreting forms, understanding instructions, or using digital technologies.  

There are millions of very intelligent Americans, proven by school data, and that also stands for every American I've ever known personally, all highly intelligent, even though some did vote for trump, which doesn't have any bearing on intelligence anyway but again, one of hope.

Don't assume how knowledgeable I am, as you haven't a clue how much I do know about many subjects. That's another flaw a few use here which doesn't work, but does show ignorance.

IsmeUno Platinum Member

IsmeUno

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9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

21% of Americans are either low literacy or functionally illiterate.

To all intents and purposes, you were replying to one of them. No ability to see or think outside their little box.

IsmeUno Platinum Member

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8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

But again you're making assumptions, because you likely only know a handful of Americans, and cannot judge millions as being weak minded, even if they did vote for trump out of hope and seeing the other side was weaker. Why are you worried about America at all, as you're an Australian now living in Thailand, where little that goes on will ever affect you personally?

I never said others couldn't criticize America, as we Americans also do that. It's that you don't understand what living as an American means, or how it feels, and aren't up to speed as well as those that actually live there on goings on, and can only rely on a few news networks, who can be biased and often are.

I know a little of what goes on in Australia, and what they did to help us during the war, along with inventions, and would love to visit there to fish Cairns, but I haven't lived there, so can't assume how living as an Aussie feels, or what goes on politically there, even if I wanted to, as it would be opinions from others as well.

This is from AI, where I'm guessing you went but didn't read any further than the first line........While Australia has a high nominal literacy rate (approximately 99%), data from the OECD and Adult Learning Australia indicates that around 44% of Australian adults lack the necessary literacy skills for everyday life and work. This indicates a significant "functional literacy" gap, where many adults struggle with complex reading tasks, despite basic proficiency.Functional Literacy vs. Basic Literacy
While formal reporting often lists Australia at or near 99% literacy, this figure typically refers only to basic reading and writing abilities. The "functional literacy" issue indicates a significant portion of the population struggles with more complex tasks, such as interpreting forms, understanding instructions, or using digital technologies.  

There are millions of very intelligent Americans, proven by school data, and that also stands for every American I've ever known personally, all highly intelligent, even though some did vote for trump, which doesn't have any bearing on intelligence anyway but again, one of hope.

Don't assume how knowledgeable I am, as you haven't a clue how much I do know about many subjects. That's another flaw a few use here which doesn't work, but does show ignorance.

393 more words. But none of them explaining what the Trump administration is doing.

Stop waffling on off-topic and get to it. Let's see your synopsis.

Lacessit Star Member

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4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

But again you're making assumptions, because you likely only know a handful of Americans, and cannot judge millions as being weak minded, even if they did vote for trump out of hope and seeing the other side was weaker. Why are you worried about America at all, as you're an Australian now living in Thailand, where little that goes on will ever affect you personally?

I never said others couldn't criticize America, as we Americans also do that. It's that you don't understand what living as an American means, or how it feels, and aren't up to speed as well as those that actually live there on goings on, and can only rely on a few news networks, who can be biased and often are.

I know a little of what goes on in Australia, and what they did to help us during the war, along with inventions, and would love to visit there to fish Cairns, but I haven't lived there, so can't assume how living as an Aussie feels, or what goes on politically there, even if I wanted to, as it would be opinions from others as well. This is from AI, where I'm guessing you went but didn't read any further than the first line........While Australia has a high nominal literacy rate (approximately 99%), data from the OECD and Adult Learning Australia indicates that around 44% of Australian adults lack the necessary literacy skills for everyday life and work. This indicates a significant "functional literacy" gap, where many adults struggle with complex reading tasks, despite basic proficiency. 

There are millions of very intelligent Americans, proven by school data, and that also stands for every American I've ever known personally, all highly intelligent, even though some did vote for trump, which doesn't have any bearing on intelligence anyway but again, one of hope.

Don't assume how knowledgeable I am, as you haven't a clue how much I do know about many subjects. That's another flaw a few use here which doesn't work, but does show ignorance.

Unending deflection. You don't even have the decency to own the shemozzle Trump has made of the Iran war.

Tell me this: Do you think America is going to come out of this latest military adventure with an enhanced or diminished reputation?

Do you think the rest of the world will allow you to pay for the cost of this war by printing more paper?

IsmeUno Platinum Member

IsmeUno

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12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

and that also stands for every American I've ever known personally, all highly intelligent,

What is your level of education? Which diplomas/degrees/baccalaureate do you hold?

Eric Loh Star Member

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29 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Tell me who would celebrate if the maniac mullah's and the IRGC got nukes? What about the IRGC being able to close the Strait at will unless payment of extortion fees is handed over? Would you celebrate this?

You are scaring yourself with the “ what if” generalisation. Fact of the matter according to US Intelligence is that Iran is not currently undertaking key nuclear weapons development activities necessary to produce even a testable nuclear one. IAEA said there was no structure program in Iran to develop nuclear weapons. You got to point the nuclear question to Israel who has nukes. No one celebrating the close of Hormuz because of Trump’s stupidly to follow Israel lead for the unprovoked attack on Iran and not consulting allies in NATO and GCC.

dinsdale Star Member

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19 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

The only mad thing I see, is your wild imagination. I see Israel attacking Iran again and again over the years. I see the USA doing Israel's bidding. Whereas you have only 'what ifs'.

Guess you didn't see the thousands of protesters murdered or the regime backed Hamas going into Israel to murder, rape and kidnap civilians. As for "if's" it's no such thing. The regime has openly said it wants nukes and has declared jihad on the USA and Israel. Sorry but your bot like responses are simply ridiculous.

IsmeUno Platinum Member

IsmeUno

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2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

the regime backed Hamas going into Israel to murder, rape and kidnap civilians.

Please show some evidence for your claims. AFAIK, it was Netanyahu and Qatar who backed HAMAS. Please demonstrate Iran's involvement with corresponding evidence.

Chomper Higgot Star Member

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4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Guess you didn't see the thousands of protesters murdered or the regime backed Hamas going into Israel to murder, rape and kidnap civilians. As for "if's" it's no such thing. The regime has openly said it wants nukes and has declared jihad on the USA and Israel. Sorry but your bot like responses are simply ridiculous.

Non of which provides any justification for the illegal Israeli/US war of aggression against Iran.

fredwiggy Star Member

fredwiggy

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1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Unending deflection. You don't even have the decency to own the shemozzle Trump has made of the Iran war.

Tell me this: Do you think America is going to come out of this latest military adventure with an enhanced or diminished reputation?

Do you think the rest of the world will allow you to pay for the cost of this war by printing more paper?

You actually thinking what the plan was for this conflict or of the intended outcome doesn't help your cause. Trump's wants are for America first, as he's always said. Too many taking advantage of America is what he wanted to stop. How he (they) go about things is something many of us aren't aware of right now, but are being explained along the way. Those that are headstrong against America and Trump might never see this through, as it takes an open mind to see past the hatred.

America will always be needed by most, if not all countries, and that also goes both ways, as trade between is what's foremost.

Trump isn't a good wordsmith but he isn't going to tell everything by any means. The technology America has is far more advanced than many realized, but are seeing first hand now, and this is a warning to all other countries who might have thought of taking America on. The threats he's said are both from his own ego and to make the other side have fear, which has always been a good war tactic.

When all this is said and done, Iran might have a democracy, as it's in their hands soon. Some definite terrorists have been eliminated, as well as much of their thinking, hopefully replaced eventually by those who are in the best interests of their people and will allow them to speak without death or torture.

The Strait will be opened, and not under Iran's control, and oil is available in the US anyway, and has been all along, and this was a tactic that worked for America, again Trump's best interest. No matter what you think of him, it's those behind him that are giving him most of his ideas, and they have been planned for a long time. The world will not be fearing Iran anymore, hopefully if things do change there, and this will also be a time where neighboring countries will also have that peace. Enriching uranium to that level was for one purpose only, no matter if it can be degraded. I think you and some others are forgetting what happened for decades before this conflict and only are thinking of what it might cost you in gas prices and other areas, at least temporarily, which it will certainly be.

fredwiggy Star Member

fredwiggy

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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Non of which provides any justification for the illegal Israeli/US war of aggression against Iran.

I haven't seen anyone saying any other way to stop what was happening. Or what happened to others besides Iran's citizens in the past.

IsmeUno Platinum Member

IsmeUno

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4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You actually thinking what the plan was for this conflict or of the intended outcome doesn't help your cause. Trump's wants are for America first, as he's always said. Too many taking advantage of America is what he wanted to stop. How he (they) go about things is something many of us aren't aware of right now, but are being explained along the way. Those that are headstrong against America and Trump might never see this through, as it takes an open mind to see past the hatred.

America will always be needed by most, if not all countries, and that also goes both ways, as trade between is what's foremost.

Trump isn't a good wordsmith but he isn't going to tell everything by any means. The technology America has is far more advanced than many realized, but are seeing first hand now, and this is a warning to all other countries who might have thought of taking America on. The threats he's said are both from his own ego and to make the other side have fear, which has always been a good war tactic.

When all this is said and done, Iran might have a democracy, as it's in their hands soon. Some definite terrorists have been eliminated, as well as much of their thinking, hopefully replaced eventually by those who are in the best interests of their people and will allow them to speak without death or torture.

The Strait will be opened, and not under Iran's control, and oil is available in the US anyway, and has been all along, and this was a tactic that worked for America, again Trump's best interest. No matter what you think of him, it's those behind him that are giving him most of his ideas, and they have been planned for a long time. The world will not be fearing Iran anymore, hopefully if things do change there, and this will also be a time where neighboring countries will also have that peace. Enriching uranium to that level was for one purpose only, no matter if it can be degraded. I think you and some others are forgetting what happened for decades before this conflict and only are thinking of what it might cost you in gas prices and other areas, at least temporarily, which it will certainly be.

Trump cult member personified. Deranged and out of step with reality. Was Iran taking advantage of the USA? Australia? It's all just extortion.

I note that you ignored the post where the Pope referred to tyrants. Do you imagine that he was referring to Iran?

Eric Loh Star Member

Eric Loh

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9 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Guess you didn't see the thousands of protesters murdered or the regime backed Hamas going into Israel to murder, rape and kidnap civilians. As for "if's" it's no such thing. The regime has openly said it wants nukes and has declared jihad on the USA and Israel. Sorry but your bot like responses are simply ridiculous.

Iran has never officially said that it wants to build nuclear weapons. Show me your links that said otherwise that any top Iranian officials make that official statement.

Instead, top Iranian officials, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have consistently stated that the country's nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, and have claimed that nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islamic law. 

johng Star Member

johng

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14 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Instead, top Iranian officials, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have consistently stated that the country's nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, and have claimed that nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islamic law. 

That's why the genocidal war criminals assassinated him first, along with the 160 school kids.

Lacessit Star Member

Lacessit

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9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You actually thinking what the plan was for this conflict or of the intended outcome doesn't help your cause. Trump's wants are for America first, as he's always said. Too many taking advantage of America is what he wanted to stop. How he (they) go about things is something many of us aren't aware of right now, but are being explained along the way. Those that are headstrong against America and Trump might never see this through, as it takes an open mind to see past the hatred.

America will always be needed by most, if not all countries, and that also goes both ways, as trade between is what's foremost.

Trump isn't a good wordsmith but he isn't going to tell everything by any means. The technology America has is far more advanced than many realized, but are seeing first hand now, and this is a warning to all other countries who might have thought of taking America on. The threats he's said are both from his own ego and to make the other side have fear, which has always been a good war tactic.

When all this is said and done, Iran might have a democracy, as it's in their hands soon. Some definite terrorists have been eliminated, as well as much of their thinking, hopefully replaced eventually by those who are in the best interests of their people and will allow them to speak without death or torture.

The Strait will be opened, and not under Iran's control, and oil is available in the US anyway, and has been all along, and this was a tactic that worked for America, again Trump's best interest. No matter what you think of him, it's those behind him that are giving him most of his ideas, and they have been planned for a long time. The world will not be fearing Iran anymore, hopefully if things do change there, and this will also be a time where neighboring countries will also have that peace. Enriching uranium to that level was for one purpose only, no matter if it can be degraded. I think you and some others are forgetting what happened for decades before this conflict and only are thinking of what it might cost you in gas prices and other areas, at least temporarily, which it will certainly be.

Australia's trade with China is four times more valuable than that with America, and we don't have to cope with tariffs either. We need China far more than we need the USA. Increasingly, Australians are regarding America with skepticism.

Nobody needs to take America on. It's doing a pretty good job of destroying itself with debt. If you had an open mind, you'd be seeing the signs. Central banks have been buying gold and ditching the dollar for years.

You think America is more technically advanced than other countries? How does that explain why you have to import immunoglobulins and recombinant proteins from Australia, because you can't make them yourself? How does that explain the piddling amount of high speed rail you have, against China's 48,000 km? How do you explain China leading the world in nuclear fusion research?

The Iranians have already proved high technology anti-missile systems can't get 100% success in assymetric warfare, they can make Shahed drones from lawnmower engines at a fraction of the cost of a Patriot or THAAD.

You are right about one thing, I fail to understand what living like an American is like when I don't have to train my kids how to avoid being shot in their schoolroom, or fork out a fortune for prescription medications, or have crushing student debt. And I definitely don't understand how Trump pays less in tax than any secretary he employs.

That kind of knowledge I can live without quite comfortably, thank you.

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1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I don't hate America. I despise what it has become under Trump, a majority of weak-minded people who put a convicted felon into power, then defend him when he is taking a wrecking ball to anything decent.

You keep banging on about how much Americans know about America, as if it is some kind of juju against outside criticism.

21% of Americans are either low literacy or functionally illiterate. The Australian literacy rate is 99%. Don't tell me how knowledgeable you are.

Don't you have local issues to worry about

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2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Australia's trade with China is four times more valuable than that with America, and we don't have to cope with tariffs either. We need China far more than we need the USA. Increasingly, Australians are regarding America with skepticism.

Nobody needs to take America on. It's doing a pretty good job of destroying itself with debt. If you had an open mind, you'd be seeing the signs. Central banks have been buying gold and ditching the dollar for years.

You think America is more technically advanced than other countries? How does that explain why you have to import immunoglobulins and recombinant proteins from Australia, because you can't make them yourself? How does that explain the piddling amount of high speed rail you have, against China's 48,000 km? How do you explain China leading the world in nuclear fusion research?

The Iranians have already proved high technology anti-missile systems can't get 100% success in assymetric warfare,ey can make Shahed drones from lawnmower engines at a fraction of the cost of a Patriot or THAAD.

You are right about one thing, I fail to understand what living like an American is like when I don't have to train my kids how to avoid being shot in their schoolroom, or fork out a fortune for prescription medications, or have crushing student debt. And I definitely don't understand how Trump pays less in tax than any secretary he employs.

That kind of knowledge I can live without quite comfortably, thank you.

I posted America's inventions and also mentioned the technology it has along the way. Comparing apples to oranges doesn't work as all countries have their share of technological advances. America buys things cheaper from other countries instead of making them themselves, and has done this all along. Other countries do the same thing. Think of how much China exports to all countries. Cheap labor. Thinking the US isn't capable of anything any other country does is ludicrous, as history has shown. America can make anything it wants.

I haven't had to train my children how not to get shot, as they, 5 in America, had all their years without any problems whatsoever. They also haven't had to buy many prescriptions as they're all in good health, following my diet and health regimen by watching me growing up. Everyone has to buy medicines at times, even me, but that's life.

America should have free healthcare, and likely eventually will, as it's a huge population that needs more help than many other countries that way. China leads the way, as does America, Japan, Germany and all other countries, in some things. That''s how the world has been all along. Go back and actually look at America's inventions I linked, as I'm sure you didn't, as it would have taken some times to look over all of them.

How much high speed rail does Australia have, seeing it's a hugely desolate country far between major cities? Definitely needed there. It's not needed in America, as it's quite easy to take a cheap flight across the US in less than 3 hours.

Iran has proven one thing for sure. They had no chance trying to stand up against America's military, as most other countries now know. They might have cheap drones but no military as far as Air Force or Navy left, as that was demolished in a couple of days. If America wanted to demolish the rest, they could but that's not been the objective. Stopping the regime in it's tracks, along with now having them busted as far as trying to build it again.

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IsmeUno

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39 minutes ago, johng said:

That's why the genocidal war criminals assassinated him first, along with the 160 school kids.

Let's not forget:

On February 28, 2026, a missile strike hit a sports hall in Lamerd, Fars province, Iran, killing 21 people, including teenagers and children. While CENTCOM denied responsibility, analysis from The New York Times, BBC Verify, and weapons experts indicates the attack used a U.S.-made Precision Strike Missile (PrSM), causing widespread casualties.

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IsmeUno

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16 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I posted America's inventions and also mentioned the technology it has along the way. Comparing apples to oranges doesn't work as all countries have their share of technological advances. America buys things cheaper from other countries instead of making them themselves, and has done this all along. Other countries do the same thing. Think of how much China exports to all countries. Cheap labor. Thinking the US isn't capable of anything any other country does is ludicrous, as history has shown. America can make anything it wants.

I haven't had to train my children how not to get shot, as they, 5 in America, had all their years without any problems whatsoever. They also haven't had to buy many prescriptions as they're all in good health, following my diet and health regimen by watching me growing up. Everyone has to buy medicines at times, even me, but that's life.

America should have free healthcare, and likely eventually will, as it's a huge population that needs more help than many other countries that way. China leads the way, as does America, Japan, Germany and all other countries, in some things. That''s how the world has been all along. Go back and actually look at America's inventions I linked, as I'm sure you didn't, as it would have taken some times to look over all of them.

How much high speed rail does Australia have, seeing it's a hugely desolate country far between major cities? Definitely needed there. It's not needed in America, as it's quite easy to take a cheap flight across the US in less than 3 hours.

Iran has proven one thing for sure. They had no chance trying to stand up against America's military, as most other countries now know. They might have cheap drones but no military as far as Air Force or Navy left, as that was demolished in a couple of days. If America wanted to demolish the rest, they could but that's not been the objective. Stopping the regime in it's tracks, along with now having them busted as far as trying to build it again.

You seem proud of the destruction. Deranged if you ask me. That seems to be why you support Trump. Similar level of derangement.

You are a man of God are you not? Do you disagree with the Pope?

Do you prefer to listen to the word of Trump?

Do you know the meaning of demagogue?

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fredwiggy

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2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

You seem proud of the destruction. Deranged if you ask me. That seems to be why you support Trump. Similar level of derangement.

You are a man of God are you not? Do you disagree with the Pope?

Try, again, seeing it's obviously hard for you, to not assume things about people you don't know. I would have ignored you but for the fact I need to point out your obvious lack of comprehension here, as I don't want anyone new to here looking at what you post and think it's anything more than drivel and assumptions, as I've all along said I don't like wars, Trump, nor anyone innocent getting killed.

I support the US fighting terrorists anywhere at anytime. Anyone who doesn't is a moron that's okay with innocents being obliterated by them.

Look at how many times you use the word "seem", which is an assumption word. Deranged is exactly how you appear to others here, as no one in their right minds and who's happy in life attacks others with assumptions and turning the truths around.

Now, try very hard to act your age here, because those who assume all the time are both lacking intelligence and restraint, things most teens grow out of. There are hundreds of other members you can troll, and they, like me, will also have your number soon enough. It's impossible for you to have a discussion here without assuming and cutting others down, for that inferiority complex you have, so go ahead and reply, as you're ignored once again, as I don't suffer the fools long.

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