Senior Iranian Commander Warns US Conflict Is ‘Inevitable’

So war it us then. The US still expects absolute surrender but Iran has the cards... And Trump keeps saying it's over.

Everything depends on continuing US support for Israel.

The Middle East is, and always has been a disaster for any country that gets involved in it.

Expected.

The US never won any war since WW2 (and there have been many).

So Iran can expect same.

And for me it would be acceptable if Iran would have a nuclear bomb. It might rein in Israel and keep them in their promised land and will teach them to treat their neighbors and minorities with humanity and dignity and respect their rights.

"The war is soon over", my butt. This has been a disaster for the US from day one.

Just go home. America first, wasn't it?

And btw, stay away from Europe as well, if you can't even be on our side.

1 hour ago, DeaconJohn said:

Everything depends on continuing US support for Israel.

The Middle East is, and always has been a disaster for any country that gets involved in it.

It appears that some lawmakers in the USA are pushing for transparency on the nuclear issue with concern to Israel. The reason why the USA and Israel maintain a cloak of silence over the question of Israel having nuclear weapons. If the USA formally recognises that it has them, the USA is then duty bound, under the Symington and Glenn Amendments, to stop providing economic and military assistance to Israel.

155,000 tons of munition and military equipment rushed there just recently.

Thought the YANKS were in a forever war already !! and losing as per usual !

8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Thought the YANKS were in a forever war already !! and losing as per usual !

Can't you post without making some stupid reference to "Yanks"?

Who are you, some rube from the outback?

55 minutes ago, VillageIdiot said:

Can't you post without making some stupid reference to "Yanks"?

Who are you, some rube from the outback?

You are adeptly named ! this is a nickname !! same as limy, Canucks,Krauts,Frogs, ect Tooooooo bad if it hurts your feeling I dont care !!

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While the Iraq,Afghanistan and Vietnam wars were disasters. No ands, ifs or buts about it. Not to conflate with Iran that is a real threat . And this is the inflection point for the US to right itself . Or else. High time to stop running scared with these religious fascist whackos for the last 40 years. Trump has to take a back seat and let his generals do what has to be done.

41 minutes ago, Point Arguello said:

While the Iraq,Afghanistan and Vietnam wars were disasters. No ands, ifs or buts about it. Not to conflate with Iran that is a real threat . And this is the inflection point for the US to right itself . Or else. High time to stop running scared with these religious fascist whackos for the last 40 years. Trump has to take a back seat and let his generals do what has to be done.

Totally agree Iraq,Afghanistan and Vietnam wars were disasters. and so will be this one ! That is the problem America like's to start a war but as soon as it gets tought it can not finsh they quit and go home !!

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There have been two instances as i recall where Iran came to the Table to discuss a possible ceasefire and while they sat around discussing ways to end Trump bombed Iranian facilities. In the end Iran and other nations decided America can not be trusted, the last incident only last week Trump accused Iran of laying mines in the SOH but no evidence was submitted just his word so the Yanks again broke the ceasefire deal by attacking small ships and drone missile sites. It's little wonder Iran does not trust America.

38 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Totally agree Iraq,Afghanistan and Vietnam wars were disasters. and so will be this one ! That is the problem America like's to start a war but as soon as it gets tought it can not finsh they quit and go home !!

Not quite, The US was cooked when they started Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan for all the wrong reasons that im not going to school you about. And if not for the US ya all over there would be speaking German or Russian .

I have a lot of respect for the US military and thats from personal experience of working with them.

Though it's very hard for them to achieve their objective when they weren't told what it was that they were expected to achieve in the first place, apart from possibly facilitating Israel in executing the Ayatollah.

I suspect the Pentagon most likely advised against it but as usual Trump knows best and was probably swayed by Netanyahu telling him how good it would make him look and how thankful the Iranian people would be by achieving regime change in Iran.

You cant blame the military for not winning a war that was not possible to win by military means or without taking unacceptable losses in the first place that is the reason the US has not won many of the wars they were involved in.

It's not the US military thats at fault it's the idiot that started it and now won't admit he was wrong.

31 minutes ago, Point Arguello said:

Not quite, The US was cooked when they started Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan for all the wrong reasons that im not going to school you about. And if not for the US ya all over there would be speaking German or Russian .

Well let Me school you on your uneducated remark !ya all over there would be speaking German or Russian .

Britain was unassailable because neither the Germans nor the Soviets ever had the navy to pull a successful invasion off.

It really didn’t matter whether the Luftwaffe won the Battle of Britain or not (in actuality, they were far from winning because they completely underestimated the British strength) because their invasion plan was never workable. The Soviets (if they chose to do so) was in an even worse position.

Your question is based on a misconception. America did not rescue Europe during World War II. Even though that’s drummed in Your heads as Americans, it’s a lie.

The truth is that Your country’s contribution to the war massively assisted the Allies’ defeating the German Wehrmacht, but was not the cause of victory. It was a contribution to a difficultly won victory that Britain and the USSR, chiefly, and the other Allied powers all massively sacrificed to gain.

While America’s MASSIVE financial and military contribution cannot be underestimated, what’s almost criminal is underestimating the massive contribution of Russia, to Germany’s defeat in the war.

Because of Cold War propaganda people somehow forget how massive, and horrific, an expenditure of lives and resources the Soviet Union made during the war. We forget the major role the Soviets played in wearing Hitler’s armies down.

If it wasn’t for the Soviet contribution Germany may very well have won, even with American involvement.

If America disappeared but the Soviets remained, it is possible the Allies would have won anyway, but just at a far more massive cost.

If the USSR disappeared after America, let’s say, then it’s pretty certain the Germans would have won.

If the USSR disappeared and America remained, I think that Allies would have won, but Britain and America would have taken losses far more grave than we can imagine. Like millions of lives, possibly.

The degree to which the Soviets’ sacrifice weakened Germany cannot and should not be underestimated.

America did not ‘rescue’ Europe, though you can argue that America entered the war, under Churchill’s initial influence, with the intent to rescue Britain.

Once each power was engaged, however, it wasn’t a matter of rescue. It was a matter of jointly defeating a common foe posing a dire threat.

You Yanks are a real disgrace and should hang you head in shame what you did to the "Afghan", in your retreat promising the "Afghan"who helped the troops visa"s, help to get to America what did you do nothing you left them to be killed by the Taliban !!

11 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

I have a lot of respect for the US military and thats from personal experience of working with them.

Though it's very hard for them to achieve their objective when they weren't told what it was that they were expected to achieve in the first place, apart from possibly facilitating Israel in executing the Ayatollah.

I suspect the Pentagon most likely advised against it but as usual Trump knows best and was probably swayed by Netanyahu telling him how good it would make him look and how thankful the Iranian people would be by achieving regime change in Iran.

You cant blame the military for not winning a war that was not possible to win by military means or without taking unacceptable losses in the first place that is the reason the US has not won many of the wars they were involved in.

It's not the US military thats at fault it's the idiot that started it and now won't admit he was wrong.

The United States is telling Afghans who resettled in the U.S. after helping it fight the Taliban that they’ve got to self-deport

“If America can’t honor its word to those who bled for it,” a retired U.S. colonel stated , “why would anyone trust us again? This isn’t just immigration policy — it’s a test of our moral credibility. And we’re failing.” WHY should America be trusted again and i think you know what would happen if they went back, YOUR country was built on immigrates hang your head in shame !

29 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

The United States is telling Afghans who resettled in the U.S. after helping it fight the Taliban that they’ve got to self-deport

“If America can’t honor its word to those who bled for it,” a retired U.S. colonel stated , “why would anyone trust us again? This isn’t just immigration policy — it’s a test of our moral credibility. And we’re failing.” WHY should America be trusted again and i think you know what would happen if they went back, YOUR country was built on immigrates hang your head in shame !

Well, no, I’m not going to “hang my head in shame,” a phrase you’ve used endlessly with respect to Americans. I am indeed appalled that my country has elected a complete moron as president (twice!) who has implemented horrific policies, and we seem not to have a mechanism to expeditiously correct this mistake. I am also quite in agreement that, over the past several decades (well before Trump), the US has started wars of aggression in Vietnam, Iraq, and now Iran, and those who prosecuted those wars should have been (should be) sent to the Hague for war crimes trials. (We were justified going into Afghanistan.)

But the self-flagellation you recommend serves no purpose; better to speak out, vote, protest vigorously, and get directly in the face of those who for whatever reason still support the wannabe authoritarian in the White House.

Perhaps the lesson to be learned here is that Americans are no better (and no worse) than any other people on the planet, and that a great many of us are indeed susceptible to racism, violence, stupidity, and the preenings of a “charismatic leader”: one of the first requirements of a fascist system. Americans are in no way exceptional or “indispensable”; on the contrary, our outsize economic and military power, as well as our soft power, have made many of us simply arrogant, with unfortunate results. The best we can hope for is to pass through this “phase” as quickly as possible and come out of it a better country.

Where are you from, by the way? Your home country, presumably, is also populated by Homo sapiens. Have your compatriots never done anything that would make you “hang your head in shame”?

1 hour ago, Point Arguello said:

Not quite, The US was cooked when they started Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan for all the wrong reasons that im not going to school you about. And if not for the US ya all over there would be speaking German or Russian .

And if not for the British all you Lard Ars+s would be speaking French 🤣😂. Check your history books, oh sorry forgot you don't have any. 🤣😂🤣

1 hour ago, Point Arguello said:

Not quite, The US was cooked when they started Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan for all the wrong reasons that im not going to school you about. And if not for the US ya all over there would be speaking German or Russian .

1 hour ago, Point Arguello said:

all over there would be speaking German

That would have been a desaster. It would have been the first time Americans would learn something 🤣

10 hours ago, gargamon said:

So war it us then. The US still expects absolute surrender but Iran has the cards... And Trump keeps saying it's over.

What are the cards Iran has, the mid-terms? Their allies the American left and Europe?

8 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Well, no, I’m not going to “hang my head in shame,” a phrase you’ve used endlessly with respect to Americans. I am indeed appalled that my country has elected a complete moron as president (twice!) who has implemented horrific policies, and we seem not to have a mechanism to expeditiously correct this mistake. I am also quite in agreement that, over the past several decades (well before Trump), the US has started wars of aggression in Vietnam, Iraq, and now Iran, and those who prosecuted those wars should have been (should be) sent to the Hague for war crimes trials. (We were justified going into Afghanistan.)

 

But the self-flagellation you recommend serves no purpose; better to speak out, vote, protest vigorously, and get directly in the face of those who for whatever reason still support the wannabe authoritarian in the White House.

 

Perhaps the lesson to be learned here is that Americans are no better (and no worse) than any other people on the planet, and that a great many of us are indeed susceptible to racism, violence, stupidity, and the preenings of a “charismatic leader”: one of the first requirements of a fascist system. Americans are in no way exceptional or “indispensable”; on the contrary, our outsize economic and military power, as well as our soft power, have made many of us simply arrogant, with unfortunate results. The best we can hope for is to pass through this “phase” as quickly as possible and come out of it a better country.

 

Where are you from, by the way? Your home country, presumably, is also populated by Homo sapiens. Have your compatriots never done anything that would make you “hang your head in shame”?

Well i have to respect your post its the first time a Yank has given an honest opinion! As for where i come from i class myself as a global citizen hold 3 passports

But as far as passing through this phase as you call it, IMHO it will be a long haul as i can not seeing him going at all, He is not only doing irreparably damage to America but also to the world !

Secretary of State Marco Rubio erupted at a Senate hearing Tuesday after Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-NV) accused him of attending a party with President Donald Trump in Miami instead of joining high-stakes Iran peace negotiations in Pakistan.

"What party was I at?" he fired back. "I was at a party? That's an absurd statement. I was not at a party."

Rosen pressed on, arguing that Rubio had left unconfirmed civilians — Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and envoy Steve Witkoff — to handle negotiations that Rubio himself was confirmed to lead.

"It's just unthinkable to me that you are missing high-stakes negotiations," she said. "It's sad."

"You people are going to slander me," Rubio snapped, before delivering a lengthy rebuttal insisting he was "co-located with the president" to relay real-time intelligence to the negotiating team in Islamabad. He said he spoke to Witkoff and Kushner at least six times that evening, twice on a secure line.

Rubio loses it at hearing after Dem calls him out for partying with Trump

What Rosen called a "party" was, in fact, UFC 327 at Miami's Kaseya Center on April 11 — where Trump and Rubio sat ringside as the Pakistan talks collapsed after 21 hours without a deal. House Democrats called it "amateur hour."

6 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Well i have to respect your post its the first time a Yank has given an honest opinion! As for where i come from i class myself as a global citizen hold 3 passports

But as far as passing through this phase as you call it, IMHO it will be a long haul as i can not seeing him going at all, He is not only doing irreparably damage to America but also to the world !

What is the irreparably damage Trump is doing to America and the world?

25 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Well i have to respect your post its the first time a Yank has given an honest opinion! As for where i come from i class myself as a global citizen hold 3 passports

But as far as passing through this phase as you call it, IMHO it will be a long haul as i can not seeing him going at all, He is not only doing irreparably damage to America but also to the world !

On him not going, I think we have to wait until the midterm elections (less than six months away) to see whether he loses his congressional support. If he manages to steal the congressional elections, or nullify them, or whatever, to retain full (dictatorial) control, then I would suggest that some drastic action, outside of the system, will become necessary, and I sincerely hope that those with the power to pull that off are making contingency plans, right now. Otherwise, yes, he will continue to wreak havoc worldwide.

I hear you on three passports. I have two (the second is an EU passport), plus I’ve lived here (Thailand) for more than 15 years, so sort of consider myself to have three identities.

22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is the irreparably damage Trump is doing to America and the world?

Oh for god’s sake read a newspaper.

2 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Oh for god’s sake read a newspaper.

That's what I thought, you have no idea.

3 hours ago, Point Arguello said:

Not quite, The US was cooked when they started Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan for all the wrong reasons that im not going to school you about. And if not for the US ya all over there would be speaking German or Russian .

Let me School you Point, you were late for WW2. We had been fighting Germany for 2 years before you joined in and thats only because you got caught sleeping at Pearl Harbour.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

What is the irreparably damage Trump is doing to America and the world?

Its all Bidens fault.

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Its all Bidens fault.

So, you don't know either, thanks.

It seems no one does.