Trump’s video depicting Obamas as apes sparks outrage

6 minutes ago, JAG said:

It will only become a problem when/if the consequences become known.

When that happens the various time honoured excuses will be: it was done in our name but without our knowledge, we knew nothing about it, oh we wondered where those trains were going (the Celle excuse), we were only following orders (the Nuremberg excuse); and if we really want to get bang up to date (unfortunate choice of words but there you are) don't interfere and you won't get hurt!

Are you really suggesting that Trumps video could lead to millions of Black people being systematically killed ?

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Are you really suggesting that Trumps video could lead to millions of Black people being systematically killed ?

History tells us that there were many precursors to millians of Jews and others being killed in 1940s Germany. Amongst those precursors were concerted efforts by the then organs of the state to portray the victims as less than human. Those organs then included the newspapers, film and radio broadcasting. Now we have social media feeds.

I am not suggesting that Trumps banal and grotesque video footage would be directly and solely responsible, but it could well be regarded as a precursor yes.

It encourages open racism, which is one of the conditions needed for such events.

9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Trump just said that it wasn't him who posted the video, it was member of his staff and he removed the video as soon as he saw it

The sign of a real leader is showing support for your staff.

What Trump actually said matters:

'I looked at the first part, and it was really about voter fraud and the machines, how crooked it is, how disgusting it is. Then I gave it to the people, who generally, they look at the whole thing, but I guess somebody didn't'.

So he created the message, handed it to staff to post, and only after the backlash blamed them for not reviewing it properly.

That’s not mutual loyalty -- that’s approval first, scapegoating later.

Obviously, Trump’s White House is a place where mutual loyalty comes to die — as everything else he touches does.

https://youtu.be/7FyqCc5jMVI

56 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You wanted to post photos of Jews depicted as rats , go ahead then .

Better to start a new thread though

That’s an utterly disgraceful association.

I believe one you yourself made, prove my belief wrong.

When did I mention Jews?

16 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That’s an utterly disgraceful association.

I believe one you yourself made, prove my belief wrong.

When did I mention Jews?

You did suggest about depicting some other ethnic minority as rats .

IMO that that was refence to Nazis and Jews and Nazis using rats to depict Jews .

Even if you deny it, I will not believe you .

So, be honest, which ethic minority was you thinking about when you bought rats into the equation ?

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You did suggest about depicting some other ethnic minority as rats .

IMO that that was refence to Nazis and Jews and Nazis using rats to depict Jews .

Even if you deny it, I will not believe you .

So, be honest, which ethic minority was you thinking about when you bought rats into the equation ?

OK so it was you that mentioned Jews, not me.

However, you’ve also demonstrated your understanding that depicting an ethnic minority as animals is deeply offensive.

In that light your baseless suggestion that I made the disgraceful association that you yourself made is deserving of a retraction on your part.

I won’t hold my breath.

4 hours ago, Harry Vibhavadi said:

Sorry, but.. how is it possible, the US inhabitants accept such a thing of their president ? Says a lot of these US citizens..

They haven't just accepted him - 77m chose him. This is what they want. The US ain't Kansas any more Toto. It's Minnesota.

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

OK so it was you that mentioned Jews, not me.

However, you’ve also demonstrated your understanding that depicting an ethnic minority as animals is deeply offensive.

In that light your baseless suggestion that I made the disgraceful association that you yourself made is deserving of a retraction on your part.

I won’t hold my breath.

So, which ethic minority did you have in mind when you considered depicting them as rats ?

Which ethic minority was you referring to ?

Its quite obvious you were referring to Jews

53 minutes ago, JAG said:

History tells us that there were many precursors to millians of Jews and others being killed in 1940s Germany. Amongst those precursors were concerted efforts by the then organs of the state to portray the victims as less than human. Those organs then included the newspapers, film and radio broadcasting. Now we have social media feeds.

I am not suggesting that Trumps banal and grotesque video footage would be directly and solely responsible, but it could well be regarded as a precursor yes.

It encourages open racism, which is one of the conditions needed for such events.

Trump depicted himself as an animal as well

A less than human animal .

So that could also be precursor for millions of white people being killed ?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Trump depicted himself as an animal as well

A less than human animal .

So that could also be precursor for millions of white people being killed ?

You are just being silly. You are intelligent enough to understand the point I am making, even if you choose to disagree with it!

Just now, JAG said:

You are just being silly. You are intelligent enough to understand the point I am making, even if you choose to disagree with it!

What is the point? Has it changed in the last ten years?

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

What is the point? Has it changed in the last ten years?

The point hasn't changed since the late 1930s. It was central to the Nuremburg trials in 1945/46.

Read my posts. If you don't understand the point then I don't think I can help you.

39 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

The sign of a real leader is showing support for your staff.

What Trump actually said matters:

'I looked at the first part, and it was really about voter fraud and the machines, how crooked it is, how disgusting it is. Then I gave it to the people, who generally, they look at the whole thing, but I guess somebody didn't'.

So he created the message, handed it to staff to post, and only after the backlash blamed them for not reviewing it properly.

That’s not mutual loyalty -- that’s approval first, scapegoating later.

Obviously, Trump’s White House is a place where mutual loyalty comes to die — as everything else he touches does.

https://youtu.be/7FyqCc5jMVI

He has no leadership qualities that I recognize.

He's a bully, a boor, a bloviator, a barbarian, a brute, a vulgar, ignorant bumpkin with no perceivable depth of character or decency and top of it all a sheer and utter spineless coward like all bullies. As someone posted further up, he dissolves into a sniveling sycophant when faced with other bullies.

Not to mention his fraudulent dealings and his dismal, deathly 'sex life'. Not even kinky. Just appalling.

Only the thick, weak, greedy and spineless grovel around him. Be honest - would anyone you know take a job with that lot? Would you?

Every single person who's been on his 'team' in one way or another he has utterly ruined. I wonder if the current bunch of dog murderers and TV personalities think they'll get away unscathed.

So his blaming of his staff (much much lower down the food chain) for this evil 'post' is all SOP. He doesn't even think about it - it's his zombielike automatic reaction.

1 minute ago, JAG said:

Read my posts. If you don't understand the point then I don't think I can help you.

So, it hasn't changed in ten years, that's what thought.

And I am not in need any help, but thanks for refusing.

3 minutes ago, JAG said:

You are just being silly. You are intelligent enough to understand the point I am making, even if you choose to disagree with it!

Explain the point you were makinbg agian .

Depicting people as aninms could lead to violence , ?

Yes ?

So Trump posting videos of White people as animals could provoke violence against White people ?

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Explain the point you were makinbg agian .

Depicting people as aninms could lead to violence , ?

Yes ?

So Trump posting videos of White people as animals could provoke violence against White people ?

My point is quite clear. You are just deflecting.

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

So, which ethic minority did you have in mind when you considered depicting them as rats ?

Which ethic minority was you referring to ?

Its quite obvious you were referring to Jews

I didn’t mention any particular ethnic minority.

This is what I said is:

“Let’s depict various ethnic minorities as animals, perhaps rats or other vermin, then see precisely at which point you get to understand how that might be a problem.“

Despite your invite to do so I didn’t depict any ethnic minority as any animal.

Nevertheless you decided to baselessly accuse me of wanting to depict Jews as rats:

“You wanted to post photos of Jews depicted as rats , go ahead then .”

A baseless and disgraceful suggestion.

I do however note your understanding that depicting ethnic minorities as animals is deeply offensive.

You just need to get the idea that this is applicable to other ethnic minorities that have been subjected to longstanding and historical racism.

For the record Nick, I would equally protest anyone depicting Jews as animals, rats or other vermin included.

I don’t restrict my defense of minorities against obscene racism to any particular minority group.

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

So you prefer a man who showers with his daughter and sniffs little girls?

Got it!

I'd say, Trump is more like the Americans I meet, and probably represents the average American in a more realistic way.

Better sniffing little girls' hair than being a pedo

Just now, JAG said:

My point is quite clear. You are just deflecting.

We know it's clear, it hasn't changed in ten years, and it's clearer all the time.

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Explain the point you were makinbg agian .

Depicting people as aninms could lead to violence , ?

Yes ?

So Trump posting videos of White people as animals could provoke violence against White people ?

Has depicting people as animals ever been a precursor to violence?

Just now, still kicking said:

Better sniffing little girls' hair than being a pedo

Remember Biden showering with his daughter, and the left bending over backwards to say that men showering with their daughters was normal.

Hypocrisy, thy name is lefty.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Has depicting people as animals ever been a precursor to violence?

When the Democrats were forcing blacks to sleep in the barn maybe.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Has depicting people as animals ever been a precursor to violence?

You know the answer to that

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

You know the answer to that

Yes I do.

Depicting people as animals has throughout history been a precursor for violence and genocide.

It is never acceptable.

Having a racist, a fascist, a wannabe dictator, a corrupted and convicted criminal, and a compulsive liar, as the president of the most powerful country in the world.

What can possibly go wrong...

Well, everything so far.

1 minute ago, thaibreaker said:

Having a racist, a fascist, a wannabe dictator, a corrupted and convicted criminal, and a compulsive liar, as the president of the most powerful country in the world.

What can possibly go wrong...

Well, everything so far.

And pedo defender.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s depict various ethnic minorities as animals, perhaps rats or other vermin, then see precisely at which point you get to understand how that might be a problem.

Which ethnic minorities did you have in mind ?

Which ethnic minority was you considering depicting as rats to prove point ?

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes I do.

Depicting people as animals has throughout history been a precursor for violence and genocide.

It is never acceptable.

Did you complin about this at the time ?

Did this video lead to genocide ?

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And pedo defender.

Ya, forgot that one. Everything Trump does and have done, is obviously okay for the MAGA cult.

1 minute ago, thaibreaker said:

Ya, forgot that one. Everything Trump does and have done, is obviously okay for the MAGA cult.

Everything Trump does and have done, is obviously the end of democracy for the leftist cult.