Two Jewish Men Stabbed in North London

28 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

anybody can get stabbed in the street anywhere in the world at any time for no apparent reason.

16,000 incidents of knife crime in London every year.

But these 2 were Jews!

JEWS!!!

😂

4 minutes ago, Packer said:

16,000 incidents of knife crime in London every year.

But these 2 were Jews!

JEWS!!!

😂

I rest my case, your honor.

1 hour ago, Geoff914 said:

But compare this with the actions of Axel Rudakubana who murdered 3 young girls and attempted to murder a further 10. The authorities went to great lengths not to make that attack terrorist related. This case is only attempted murder and almost immediately is declared terrorist related. What is going on here?

"What is going on here?" To ask your question: The attack by Axel Rudakubana was not terrorist-related by any responsible measure, but the attack on the two British Jews has been deemed terrorist by police. The difference is motivation.

Rudakubana's deadly attack was the result of mental illness, but the Somali-born attacker's motive appears to be anti-Jewish. The stabber chose his victims on the basis of their religion.

12 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, some have theories how we evolved, but that still doesn't mean there isn't a God, even if it were true. Faith is why we believe without having more evidence, but looking at all of creation and thinking it just happened is ludicrous. I was raised Catholic, but since have been just a Christian, not needing certain things Catholicism has, as praying to people isn't necessary. Science cannot prove or disprove of an Adam and Eve.

Nothing to do with being brainwashed but looking at things in a sensible way. You can be trained as a child but still grow to an adult that can question what you were taught. Yes, the Bible was written by man with God's direction. We weren't there, so there's no dismissing it. Just other's opinions, like much of science.

Also again, what man has done wrong isn't from God but man's thinking. We were not around when other human types were created, so don't know all of how they appeared, as skull imagery isn't an exact science, although somewhat close.

Much of what you’re claiming has already been explained by science.

It’s ludicrous to believe a god created it all, there is zero evidence for it. And lots of evidence for Darwinism from Amoeba to Humans.

You say the bible was written by man with gods direction, yet which bible? What about the books that man has taken out of the bible? The books that claim god is one of a group of supreme beings? Or the thousands of changes that have been made to the text? Some accidental, some deliberate to suit political reasons at the time. What about the Ethiopian Bible from 4th century AD, it has many more books missing from later bibles

Adam and Eve theory can’t work as we know humans and apes have a common ancestor. It’s proven to be impossible.

Also their children and Cain popping off to Nod and building a city, with what people exactly?

2 of the gospels (3 according to some scholars) originate from the same source, the Q source. Entire passages in the original language are identical. This duplication wouldn’t exist if they were truly guided by god.

Mathew and Mark give a similar different account of JC’s last words, Luke and John give separate and completely different accounts. There is no divine direction there.

All 4 gospels give completely different accounts of the resurrection and who was there. No divine direction there.

In the bible it states that the child is not guilty for the sins of the father. But god murdered pregnant women with unborn babies in the flood. God destroyed the animals. Then god decimated Sodom and Gomorrah. And murdered the firstborn sons of Egypt. I’m hearing evil here, not goodness. No divine direction here.

He says we can sell our daughters into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7

No divine direction here.

He says if we work on the Sabbath, we should be put to death Exodus 35:2

No divine direction here.

He says we will be unclean if we touch the skin of a dead pig Leviticus 11:7

No divine direction here.

He says dwarves must not go to church, nor anyone with a flat nose or any male with damaged penis or missing testicles. Leviticus 21:18

No divine direction here.

He says if we do contrary to what he wants he will make us eat our sons and daughters

Leviticus 26:27-28

No divine direction here.

He says if we plant different crop seeds next to each other, we have to be stoned to death, really?

38 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

an armed Jew

That's definitely advisable. All Jews should arm themselves. They are all targets now. No Jew is safe anywhere in the world.

Ohh Bibi. What have you done!

3 minutes ago, Packer said:

Ohh Bibi. What have you done!

He has defended the state of Israel and its citizens against the attacks of groups whose goal is to destroy the homeland of the world's Jews.

Nothing pisses antisemites more than Jews who fight back successfully.

4 hours ago, Packer said:

• Statistical Spike: According to the FBI, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the U.S. skyrocketed from 28 incidents in 2000 to 481 in 2001, a 1,600% increase.

• Backlash Violence: This period saw a nationwide wave of murders, physical assaults, arson, and vandalism directed at people solely due to their actual or perceived religious or national background.

• Persistent Elevated Levels: Although numbers eventually tapered off from the immediate post-9/11 peak, hate crimes against Muslims have never returned to pre-2001 levels

🙂

What is the source of the figures on the surge in anti-Muslim hate crime in the U.S. after 9/11? Can you provide a link to it? I know the post says "according to the FBI," but were these statistics actually contained in an FBI release?

Were these reports to police of hate crimes; criminal charges against perpetrators for hate crimes; or convictions for hate crimes? Many reports of "incidents" of hate crime are not considered hate crimes under the law by public prosecutors.

16 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

What is the source of the figures

Google A.I. 🙂

The article doesn't go into much detail, but apparently Essa Suleiman had some sort of link to an Islamist group and had been referred into the government counter-terrorism Prevent programme in 2020. It will be interesting to learn what happened with him in the past six years.

Golders Green suspect is Essa Suleiman, BBC understands

The BBC understands that the suspect being held after the Golders Green knife attack yesterday is 45-year-old Essa Suleiman from south-east London.

He was born in Somalia, but came to the UK as a child in the early 1990s. He came legally, and is now a British citizen.

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner Mark Rowley previously said he had a "history of serious violence and mental health issues."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c3ve2nr60xzt

2 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

Israel's politics and stances are putting all the jews of the world at risk just like the islamic terrorists are doing so in giving a bad image of the moderate and integrated muslim communities globally.

Where are the moderate and integrated global muslim communities? By definition of their faith, muslims cannot and should not "integrate".

And your logic betrays an underlying prejudice. The extremist positipons of Islamic groups and nations should be placing muslims at risk, since there has been no condemnation of the overt extremist acts by these violent Islamists. where is the outrage and protests as hundreds of thousands of Africans are murdered, enslaved, starved and sexually abused by the muslims? Which Muslim group or nation has condemned the slaughter in Darfur, or the kidnappings of thousands of children in Nigeria and Niger? Why are no westerners so quick to condemn so quiet as Iranian kids are strung up in public executions?

The police in the video were out of line

kicking him in the head.

They should loose their job.

39 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Antisemitism is always driven by mindless hatred devoid of any justifiable cause.

The slaughter of 50,000 women and children was certainly done with mindless hatred devoid of any justifiable cause, so some of the new wave of AS is well driven by that, etc. 🙂

42 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Never Again Is Today!

Sounds like a psychopathic belief chanted by those ready to commit crimes against humanity with glee. 🙂

19 minutes ago, Packer said:

The slaughter of 50,000 women and children was certainly done with mindless hatred devoid of any justifiable cause, so some of the new wave of AS is well driven by that, etc. 🙂

Sounds like a psychopathic belief chanted by those ready to commit crimes against humanity with glee. 🙂

You sound like the type that loves Jews as long as they're dead.

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You sound like the type that loves Jews as long as they're dead.

The paranoia that everyone is out to get us. Everyone is against us. We must attack and kill them first.

It's paranoid psychopathic madness. 🙂

4 hours ago, Packer said:

16,000 incidents of knife crime in London every year.

But these 2 were Jews!

JEWS!!!

😂

Your masters.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

You sound like the type that loves Jews as long as they're dead

Like their heros, the pick on the defenseless one.

I have no problem with Jew hating terrorists, as long as they realize they might get killed first.

Those are your allies against Trump. They hate him because he has Jews in the family, therefore he is tainted.

10 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

If the afterlife is better why bother with this life? Lets all die and go to heaven today.

You go first and send us all a message about what it's like. We will follow on. Deal?

13 minutes ago, FlorC said:

The police in the video were out of line

kicking him in the head.

They should loose their job.

They weren't kicking his head, they were kicking his hand to make him let go of the knife. He's lucky armed police didn't shoot him after committing such a vicious crime. I don't think he would have been that lucky in the U.S.

8 minutes ago, Packer said:

The slaughter of 50,000 women and children was certainly done with mindless hatred devoid of any justifiable cause, so some of the new wave of AS is well driven by that, etc. 🙂

The deaths of civilians in Gaza were caused by collateral damage from urban warfare in a densely populated area, with the casualty count exacerbated by Hamas' tendency to conceal fighters, weapons and firing points in protected civilian facilities.

The deaths of so many women and children in Gaza are tragic, but it wasn't done deliberately or with hatred. IDF air strikes against Gaza are the same as WWII Allied bombing of German and Japanese cities. The bombing in both cases was part of a strategy to win an armed conflict.

Hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese children were killed in Allied (mainly U.S.) bombing. In one night's fire bombing of Tokyo in 1945, over 100,000 Japanese civilians were killed, with at least 70,000 believed to be women, children and the elderly. More civilians were killed in ONE NIGHT than during the entire Gaza conflict, but no one accuses the U.S. of war crimes or genocide.

Israel is being held to a different standard than other nations at war, which meets the definition of antisemitism.

8 minutes ago, Packer said:

Sounds like a psychopathic belief chanted by those ready to commit crimes against humanity with glee. 🙂

You are outdoing yourself today, @Packer . Only you could try to twist "Never again is today!" into something sinister.

The phrase "Never again" was made known to non-Jews by Jewish survivors of Dachau concentration camp. Do you consider them to have held a psychotic belief and have been ready to commit crimes against humanity? It was in fact a reminder to never let a second Holocaust occur through a lack of active resistance by Jews and others. It also reminded Jews to never again allow themselves to become victims again.

There is a Never Again Memorial on the site of the former Dachau camp.

The use of "Never Again" as a book title by controversial Rabbi Meir Kahane in no way defines or limits the phrase.

4 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

The deaths of so many women and children in Gaza are tragic, but it wasn't done deliberately or with hatred.

😂

4 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

active resistance

"active resistence"

🤣

Comedy Gold. 👍

21 minutes ago, Packer said:

"active resistence"

🤣

Comedy Gold. 👍

What is funny. much less comedy gold, about your misspelling of "resistance?"

6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Where are the moderate and integrated global muslim communities? By definition of their faith, muslims cannot and should not "integrate".

And your logic betrays an underlying prejudice. The extremist positipons of Islamic groups and nations should be placing muslims at risk, since there has been no condemnation of the overt extremist acts by these violent Islamists. where is the outrage and protests as hundreds of thousands of Africans are murdered, enslaved, starved and sexually abused by the muslims? Which Muslim group or nation has condemned the slaughter in Darfur, or the kidnappings of thousands of children in Nigeria and Niger? Why are no westerners so quick to condemn so quiet as Iranian kids are strung up in public executions?

There are +/-4m Muslims in the UK. The overwhelming majority of them are decent, law abiding citizens who are in employment and bear no ill-will towards their neighbours whatever their colour or relgion. Maybe most Muslims in the UK prefer not to integrate at the bookies or the pub but that's up to them.

9 hours ago, FlorC said:

The police in the video were out of line

kicking him in the head.

They should loose their job.

Agree' they should have stamped on it first🤔

22 hours ago, save the frogs said:

If someone committed an act of violence, by all means lock him up.

Thought I would check have many stabbings there are per day. Can only find the figures up to 2024/25 which were "around" 53000. Don't as me why so imprecise. So on a day two Jewish people in Golders Green were stabbed another 143 people were stabbed. But let's not bother about the other 143.

So who had "Somali" in the betting pool?

Both victims are in stable condition, while the suspect, a 45-year-old British national of Somali origin, remains in custody, the Metropolitan Police said.

How's that diversity thing working out? A double stabbing... That's even worse than the Learing Center.

UK police release bodycam footage of anti-Semitic stabbing attack (VIDEO) — RT World News

9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

The deaths of civilians in Gaza were caused by collateral damage from urban warfare in a densely populated area

80,000 IDF & ex IDF soldiers suffering from mental illness suggests war crimes being difficult for them to live with.

5 hours ago, RayC said:

There are +/-4m Muslims in the UK. The overwhelming majority of them are decent, law abiding citizens who are in employment and bear no ill-will towards their neighbours whatever their colour or relgion. Maybe most Muslims in the UK prefer not to integrate at the bookies or the pub but that's up to them.

You assume that the majority are decent , law abiding citizens, and I certainly hope they are. Unfortunately, the failure of the community to speak out against indecent and unlawful activities suggests an absence of social conscience.

How many protests have there been in respect to the ongoing horrors in Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria etc? You do know that hundreds of thousands of people have been slaughtered in these countries, don't you? They wouldn't even protest the mass murders in Syria. When is the last time the Pakistani or Bengali community took a stand on arranged child marriages, domestic abuse, etc? Did the Pakistani community repudiate and assist the authorities with the child sex abuse grooming gangs? On the contrary, the community hid and helped cover up the scandal. Who came out to protest the public lynching of the Iranians accused of protesting against the regime?

2 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Thought I would check have many stabbings there are per day. Can only find the figures up to 2024/25 which were "around" 53000. Don't as me why so imprecise. So on a day two Jewish people in Golders Green were stabbed another 143 people were stabbed. But let's not bother about the other 143.

Try harder and try being honest.

https://benkinsella.org.uk/knife-crime-statistics/

This was an attempted murder. It was not a robbery and it was not random. It was premeditated. There are relatively few few knife killings of people over the age of 25 in the UK. 153 in total. Most of the UK knife crimes are neither attempted murders nor intended to kill anyone, This is why the crime of attempted murder stands out.

Look at the data that is relevant. In the 12 months to March 2025, there were

205 murders involving a knife or sharp instrument in England and Wales of which;

52 young people aged under 25 were murdered with a knife or sharp object . And of the 52, 14 were under the age of 16, and 22 were aged between 13 and 19.

21 hours ago, JonnyF said:

It's people like you encouraging violence by being apologists for an innocent old man being stabbed on the streets of London due to a foreign conflict thousands of miles away.

Its disgusting how low your hatred of Jews will take you.

As i said elsewhere, you can't win any argument. Here you show you can't even start one.

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

80,000 IDF & ex IDF soldiers suffering from mental illness suggests war crimes being difficult for them to live with.

Do you have a source for that or is it just some more Hamas/Hezbollah propaganda?

6 hours ago, RayC said:

There are +/-4m Muslims in the UK. The overwhelming majority of them are decent, law abiding citizens who are in employment

With huge numbers applying for babysitting jobs in the 10-15 year old sector.