Unsubstantiated claim that Trump abused minor in Epstein Files

On 2/27/2026 at 10:05 AM, Jim Waldron said:

OThe Epstein files mention an allegation against Trump, but it’s important to note this is unsubstantiated!

Trump has denied such claims, and no charges have been filed. The DOJ initially withheld some interview notes for victim redactions, later restoring them.

Bottom line: these are allegations, not proven facts. Whatever your politics, it’s worth remembering that accusations in documents don’t equal evidence in court.

Yet, here on this forum they think this is a news story. lol

12 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Again, you seem to lack basic reading comprehension skills. What I said was, that: "Trump (unlike Biden) removed the documents legally, that is a fact that has never been in dispute. The dispute was Trump's retention of the documents."

That there was a dispute, does not mean it was illegal. That the Biden DOJ was not able to secure a conviction against Trump would indicate it was not illegal. Who do you imagine has the documents now?

Biden on the other hand, was stealing and retaining documents illegally for over twenty years, and he was given a pass by the unbiased Biden DOJ.

In any event why do you think it is that the Biden DOJ had the unredacted files for four years and can't find anything on Trump.

The Biden DOJ could not convict Trump

The Biden DOJ could not indict Trump

The Biden DOJ could not even leak files on Trump

Poor leftie, nothing in the files

Blah blah!

The PRA is unambiguous about it. And ex-President is not allowed to keep Presidential records.

Cannon dismissed the federal classified documents case against Donald Trump in July 2024 on the grounds that the appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith was unconstitutional. It would not indicate that it was not illegal. 😃

And Trump is now allowed to keep them because he is President again. 🤣

32 minutes ago, bendejo said:

The grand question will arise, which just may be the one he dreads most: did you introduce Melania to Epstein, or did E introduce her to you?

No crime involved, but embarrassment beyond dimension.

Likely she was passed around them, and others, and it's all been lost in the fog of whore.

4 hours ago, newnative said:

Too rich! Just 'liable for sexual assault', as if that makes it all ok. Hey, our President only sexually assaulted someone, lighten up! Just ignore it and all the other bad things he has done, starting with the serial lying. Look, he's not George Washington, ok? He's the worst President in US history--twice!!! He CAN tell a lie--and absolutely loves to! Give him a break!

We're living in a Twilight Zone where Hillary Clinton, who never had any interaction with Epstein--obviously not his or Trump's type--is called to testify, but Melania and Trump, who both knew him closely, have yet to testify. Does that make any sense? And, will they ever be called to testify under oath? Or, will Trump's stooges continue to cover up his obvious involvement? The more they resist, including, of course, Trump, the guiltier he looks--and most certainly is.

I completely agree and there's no doubt that the Epstein files have turned out to be Trump's version of Kryptonite. The more he denies the more desperate he appears, and the more guilty the man is likely to be, if and when this is ever brought to light. It likely won't surface as there are not only multiple Federal organizations protecting him, but Americans don't seem to have an appetite to prosecute an ex-presidents anyway.

Trump is a one-trick pony, he's not particularly smart, and when he's cornered like this he only has one response which is complete and total denial, and very few are buying it anymore. Only his most ardent supporters continue to defend him.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump is a one-trick pony, he's not particularly smart, and when he's cornered like this he only has one response which is complete and total denial, and very few are buying it anymore. Only his most ardent supporters continue to defend him.

Or they come up with:

Master stroke.

That's just Trump being Trump

Off the cuff remark

5 dimensional chess.

He just knows how easy it is to get the libs worked up.

It's just the weave.

Etc,

The FBI interviewed the accuser 4 times. What she told them had enough credibility that they went back 3 times after the initial interview. If the accusations were not credible, there would not have been 3 followups.

Also, the fact that the AG pulled the interview documents certainly looks bad. When she claimed, under oath in the House Hearing, that"nothing implicated Trump", that is a lie.

Is perjury now okay if a MAGA does it?

So instead of the Republican House calling this woman or calling any of the victims, they call Hillary. That just makes them look bad and scared, trying to control the narrative.

Reps like Comer claim, with no proof whatsoever, "85% of the people in the files are Democrats". So how many files did Bondi have to pull to raise it to 85%?

Because of the House resolution on releasing the files, all the files, unredacted, Bondi has only two choices: claim there is an ongoing investigation of Trump, or release the files. Anything else and she breaks the law yet again.

This is not going to go away, and the more the corrupt and lying DoJ tries to hide the truth, the more they show there IS something to hide.

Eventually I suspect it will be accepted fact that Trump raped a minor or minors. MAGAs will then have to wait until a new excuse and justification can be provided, so that they remain on the same page and their messiah remains their hero.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I completely agree and there's no doubt that the Epstein files have turned out to be Trump's version of Kryptonite. The more he denies the more desperate he appears, and the more guilty the man is likely to be, if and when this is ever brought to light. It likely won't surface as there are not only multiple Federal organizations protecting him, but Americans don't seem to have an appetite to prosecute an ex-presidents anyway.

Trump is a one-trick pony, he's not particularly smart, and when he's cornered like this he only has one response which is complete and total denial, and very few are buying it anymore. Only his most ardent supporters continue to defend him.

The US has to lose its virginity, when it comes to prosecuting former Presidents. It isn't as if the office still holds any respect, as Trump ruined that. NOBODY Is above the law. How unsurprising that six career FBI agents were fired this week because they were involved in trying to retrieve the highly classified documents Trump stole. Equally unsurprising is that Judge Cannon has blocked former SC Jack Smith from releasing his investigation into the same theft.

France prosecuted Sarkozy. South Korea has jailed several former Presidents. Even one SEAsia country has sort of, sometimes, kind of prosecuted and jailed, at least for a day, a former PM.

On 2/27/2026 at 2:40 PM, koolkarl said:

Isn't it interesting that the people who removed sensitive info never say a word in public.

If they knowingly removed sensitive material even if under the orders of a boss or the boss of bosses, it is still a crime and they if with a valuable lawyer could maybe avoid being charged if provided proof that they were ordered by a higher authority. Just like the 6 folks indicted by the DOJ as ordered by Trump for telling soldiers and govt workers that they did not have to follow "illegal" orders as the court cleared those 6 of any wrongdoings as that is what is clear in the constituition.

21 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

In any event why do you think it is that the Biden DOJ had the unredacted files for four years and can't find anything on Trump.

The Biden DOJ could not convict Trump

The Biden DOJ could not indict Trump

The Biden DOJ could not even leak files on Trump

Too many besides DJT, and not all are Republican supporters so there are some senior folks within the Biden administration that should be indicted also IMHO.

21 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Unsubstantiated. Bit of a key word this but it doesn't and wont stop those with an irrational hatred toward one person from going into a frenzy of equally unsubstantiated claims.

Yes, the crime of cover up and not starting an investigation to determine the validity of the reports needs to be investigated with folks intentionally failing to check it out going to prison for their coverup IMHO

4 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

Yet, here on this forum they think this is a news story. lol

An awful lot of "smoke" for all of these to be 'unsubstantiated" IMHO anyway as after reading so many I tend to believe them!

45 minutes ago, Wingate said:

France prosecuted Sarkozy. South Korea has jailed several former Presidents. Even one SEAsia country has sort of, sometimes, kind of prosecuted and jailed, at least for a day, a former PM.

Even the UK has stripped an ex prince, and brother of the King, of all his royal titles, and arrested a different peer on suspicion of misconduct in public office along with arresting the ex prince with the same allegation. The peer was released, the on bail but I believe the ex-prince went free!

5 hours ago, newnative said:

Likely she was passed around them, and others, and it's all been lost in the fog of whore.

You talk about your mom or your sisters like that ?

What an absolute nasty human you are

6 hours ago, bendejo said:

The grand question will arise, which just may be the one he dreads most: did you introduce Melania to Epstein, or did E introduce her to you?

No crime involved, but embarrassment beyond dimension.

Most likely Melania was an escort of whom Jeffrey was acquainted with, and he introduced her to Trump.

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

Too many besides DJT, and not all are Republican supporters so there are some senior folks within the Biden administration that should be indicted also IMHO.

When a Trump supporter is faced with a difficult situation and attempts to defend the indefensible they always resort to Biden, Obama, and Clinton. It's almost like there's a collective amnesia that takes place, wherein they forget who the current president is and where the real responsibility lies.

Have you also forgotten 18 months of promises to release the files?

Have you forgotten how many times he mentioned Biden covering up the Epstein files?

Isn't that exactly what he's doing now?

And why doesn't that matter to you anymore?

1 hour ago, Slowhand225 said:

You talk about your mom or your sisters like that ?

What an absolute nasty human you are

Ha. None of my sisters are strippers, party girls, or paid 'escorts' for rich, old dudes. Sorry, but the truth about her is 'nasty'.

On 2/28/2026 at 10:29 AM, bendejo said:

I had suspected there was fear of projecting a banana republic image. E.g. right around that time there was an election in Ecuador and the day after the vote the loser was jailed.

OK, so wait a year until you take care of him. But I do hold the Garland DOJ partially responsible for the re-election. DT was revved up in 1/2024. Fading force? Was he sleeping under his desk? Or was he given planted misinformation from within?

As low an image as many people had of Garland, now he appears to be an intellectual giant when compared to the tiny and severely incapable mind of Bondi.

16 hours ago, newnative said:

Ha. None of my sisters are strippers, party girls, or paid 'escorts' for rich, old dudes. Sorry, but the truth about her is 'nasty'.

I agree with that presumption and the real question is if she was an escort, was she the first former escort to become first lady in the history of the presidency? Most likely, though she likely started off by providing sexual favors, at least she no longer has to do that, for obvious and medical reasons.

20 hours ago, JerryM said:

Or they come up with:

Master stroke.

That's just Trump being Trump

Off the cuff remark

5 dimensional chess.

He just knows how easy it is to get the libs worked up.

It's just the weave.

Etc,

I love the five dimensional chess allegory, it is very likely that Trump would be beaten by Pauly Shore in a game of checkers. He is that dense.

43 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

As low an image as many people had of Garland, now he appears to be an intellectual giant when compared to the tiny and severely incapable mind of Bondi.

They were playing that up in the non-MAGA media back then, that he moved slowly, silently, and effective.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzttt!!!

I will continue to be of the opinion Old Joe put him there to make up his SCOTUS rejection. I got the impression Garland just didn't have the energy for the job. It is obvious the only way to handle DT is to hold him by the nose whilst booting him in the a_s, and Garland was not the one to do that.

On 2/28/2026 at 8:39 AM, scottiejohn said:

Even the UK has stripped an ex prince, and brother of the King, of all his royal titles, and arrested a different peer on suspicion of misconduct in public office along with arresting the ex prince with the same allegation. The peer was released, the on bail but I believe the ex-prince went free!

It was alleged Mandelson was preparing to flee to BVI. Lindsay Hoyle tipped the police off.

Released Under Investigation (AMW) means there is no fixed date for you to attend further interviews at the police station, and there are no particular restrictions. Released On Bail means there is a set future date, and there are restrictions what you can do, Mandelson had to surrender his passport. He is set to go back in May.

On 2/28/2026 at 4:46 PM, spidermike007 said:

When a Trump supporter is faced with a difficult situation and attempts to defend the indefensible they always resort to Biden, Obama, and Clinton. It's almost like there's a collective amnesia that takes place, wherein they forget who the current president is and where the real responsibility lies.

Have you also forgotten 18 months of promises to release the files?

Have you forgotten how many times he mentioned Biden covering up the Epstein files?

Isn't that exactly what he's doing now?

And why doesn't that matter to you anymore?

one difference - Biden wasn't involved in raping young girls IMHO based on what Delawarean voters tell me but do believe too that he missed the boat and should have had HIS DOJ doing investigations and releasing some of those files of the rich and powerful IMHO anyway.

On 2/28/2026 at 6:02 PM, newnative said:

Ha. None of my sisters are strippers, party girls, or paid 'escorts' for rich, old dudes. Sorry, but the truth about her is 'nasty'.

It's very likely that Jeff had some fun with her too, and I wonder how Don felt about that afterwards? It may not have mattered since they likely passed around so many underage girls between them. It was kind of a change of pace for them getting with a woman who was of legal age.

On 2/27/2026 at 5:49 PM, Yellowtail said:

In any event why do you think it is that the Biden DOJ had the unredacted files for four years and can't find anything on Trump.

The Biden DOJ could not convict Trump

The Biden DOJ could not indict Trump

The Biden DOJ could not even leak files on Trump

Afraid of those rich and powerful folks involved too IMHO anyway.

23 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Afraid of those rich and powerful folks involved too IMHO anyway.

So, the Biden DOJ protected pedophiles for four years.

Do you think Merrick Garland and anyone else involved should be prosecuted?

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, the Biden DOJ protected pedophiles for four years.

Do you think Merrick Garland and anyone else involved should be prosecuted?

He didn't break any law by not pursing the case. His fault lay on him being overly sensitive about any perception of fairness. Unlike Bondi who is breaking the law by refusing to release all the files. I hope he will be subpoenaed and testify before Congress.

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He didn't break any law by ting not pursing the case. His fault lay on him being overly sensitive about any perception of fairness.

Protecting pedophiles in not illegal?

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Unlike Bondi who is breaking the law by refusing to release all the files.

The files have been released

12 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I hope he will be subpoenaed and testify before Congress.

I hope he will too. Merrick Garland should have to pay for protecting these pedophiles. He is scum.

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Protecting pedophiles in not illegal?

The files have been released

I hope he will too. Merrick Garland should have to pay for protecting these pedophiles. He is scum.

Bondi is protecting the pedophiles and may face charges for contempt and perjury in not releasing the files and heavy redaction. Meanwhile Merrick Garland will be criticized for breaking ethical duty.

23 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Bondi is protecting the pedophiles and may face charges for contempt and perjury in not releasing the files and heavy redaction.

Except that all the files that Congress demanded be released, have been released.

23 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Meanwhile Merrick Garland will be criticized for breaking ethical duty.

You claimed: "I hope he will be subpoenaed and testify before Congress.", and now you want to give the POC a pass?

He protected pedophiles for four years, and you do not care.

34 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Except that all the files that Congress demanded be released, have been released.

Obviously not the memos evoked in the OP! 🤣

Put it this way:

If (IF) it was Epstein that introduced Melania to DT, and if Jeffo was compensated (in any kind of way) for the favor, well, an adult would know what such a service is called. It would imply that Mel met her future husband as the result of being a victim of human trafficking, and the WH would be experiencing yet another sh_tstorm within the already present sh_tstorms.

If this was presented is such way in the free media the MAGA invertebrates would be howling to defend their leader. But substitute a Dem pol and they would be howling to have the guy hung by his naughty bits, declaring him an abomination in the eyes of God, etc.

It is as clear as the orange paint on his face that DT is fearful of what the Epstein stuff would reveal, and has shown indications of it all along. His gaslighting abilities are waning, and his "it is what I say it is" shtick that won him his devotees just doesn't work the way it did. It looks like the genie in his magic bottle has abandoned him, now he has gone back to being the television charlatan with the fake university. He is almost as bad at covering-up as Lutnik, whose "I will never be in the same room as that disgusting man" was so obvious as to be comical, maybe that is the real reason he was smiling when he said it.