Importing Dogs From The Uk

[maerim]

I have been on an enforced trip to the UK for the past few months and believe me it gets no better.

In pubs and bars throughout the country can be heard “Allow me to buy the drinks as you are working”

Or worse still the husband come back from the job centre and tells his wife “They have found me a job.” She replies “Oh no, just as we were getting on our feet as well”.

For anyone remotely interested Cilla Black is alive and making a nuisance of herself on chat shows but looks as though she has been dead for six months, a tribute to the embalmers art.

On a lighter note, my aunt who lived in one of my properties, rent free by the way, died, and whom no doubt by now will have discovered if her one hour a week of God bothering every Sunday was worth it or not and I inherited along with the funeral bill two small dogs.

I phoned my better half and said what should I do with them she said bring them, we already have five mutts here in Thailand, she said two more won’t make any difference.

Plug for Thai women! She is an absolute star, her mates say she is lucky having me, not so I am lucky having her.

I phoned a few pet export agencies you will see they all have nice address’s Ivy cottage or some farm or the other, now I know why,

The cheapest quote I had was £895 and the most expensive was £1,529 one way and I had to do all the paperwork as well.

I usually fly with Emirates so I phoned them, their quote was £13 per kilo going as cargo so I immediately put the fat one on a diet, what they did not say was it is £13 per kilo multiplied by the size of the cage.

This came to nearly £800 plus a £50 handling charge so I knew that Air France will allow the dogs to go as excess baggage so that’s who we went with they charge £25 per kilo as the whole kit and caboodle came to 20 kilos £500.

The technical bit.

Before you can legally export a dog from the UK you need a clearance certificate from D.E.F.R.A. The department for enviroment, food and rural affairs, these are free and will be sent to your home address, or more to the point the application for a certificate will.

You will need to nominate a vet who is a L.V.I. local vetinary inspector and a date they will be leaving the country, without this the certificate cannot be issued.

The certificate for disease control will be sent to your nominated vet, these certificates are valid for ten days from the date of issue.

The dogs will have to be vaccinated against Leptospirosis ( a nasty piece of work that humans can catch)at least 21 days before export also canine distemper, infectious hepatitis and canine parvovirus and examined within 72 hours of export.

As rabies is endemic in Thailand a rabies shot is not required and anyway it is cheaper to have it done here.

These jabs on the other-hand are not free, they are injected and 14 days later a booster jab is given.

This cost £40 per dog, two days before we went they were examined and the vet stamped the disease clearance certificate another £40.

You will also need an import certificate issued here in Thailand ours was issued at Chiang Mia airport these are also free and are valid for 30 days from the time of issue.

This was sent to me in the UK but with business commitments the certificate ran out I was faxed another and away we went.

The cage they travel in must meet I.A.T.A. regulations I will tell you what they are, the dogs as they grew up together were allowed to travel together, they must have room to stand up, turn round and have access to fresh water through a paw and nose proof grille (chicken wire) you can make one yourself for peanuts, mine cost £70 from a shop.

There is a proscribed list of dogs that cannot be imported here unfortunately my two terriers were not on it so you will have to check it out.

You will need to get to the airport at least 2-3 hours before you normally do as nobody on the check in desks had ever done this procedure before, about an hour before departure they are taken to the aircraft so they were being made a great fuss of for a few hours in Manchester airport, I was not made any fuss of at all, so nothing new there then.

At Charles De Gaulle airport I collected them and yes they came round on the carousel.

This was on New Years Eve and I had to spend 7 hours in this dump with two small and very fed up dogs.

I have no idea who designed this place but they should be sought out and shot before they get to design anything else.

I have been in more welcoming car parks, it is dark dingy and half the lights don’t work.

This airport has its own drunks, vagrants and beggars also some nitwit who spent 5 hours zooming up and down the concourse on rollerblades narrowly missing passengers the drunks obviously knew him and kept out of the way.

In my time on this planet I have had some crappy New Years but this was the worst.

Again about an hour before departure the dogs were taken and put on board.

Now Bangkok airport was the epitome of modernity and efficiency they again came round on the carousel so I went to customs the nothing to declare bit and was met by smiling helpful people.

The boss asked me where I got the import certificate from and I said it was faxed to me and he could speak to my better half who was in the arrivals hall if he wanted to but he said no its OK he checked the documents and said happy new year and that was it and while I am at it let them out of the cage so I walked out of customs followed by two small and no doubt confused dogs.

We spent what was left of New Years day in Bangkok and flew up here on the 2-1-2005 the cheapo airline Nok Air etc won’t allows dogs so we flew with Thai airways the dogs went as excess baggage 35 baht per kilo again what a difference to Air France, most helpful people.

What not to do!

Unless you are a machochist or on a diet on no account fly with Air France it is over twenty years since I have had the “pleasure” of flying with this crowd and then I only flew with them on business as I used to do work in France with any luck it will be a lot longer than twenty years before I fly with them again.

I booked on line and as I wanted to take the dogs I phoned them, the man on the other end said there was no such fare I told him the flight no’s and the price as it was on the monitor in front of me he finally agreed with me that there was this flight and price, from then on it was all down hill they charged me £10 for a paper ticket and another £10 to send it to me, a 28 pence stamp and an envelope no courier.

There were no details of what terminal I was to fly from at either Manchester or Paris airports.

At the airport they whacked me for every kilo over the 20 allowed most long haul flights give a bit of leeway but not this outfit. This is £25 per kilo excess baggage and a Happy New year to you.

The food was inedible on the flight, the cabin crew made it quite obvious that if there was any justice in this world they would be sat down and I would be dishing up “French cuisine” to them and they would not be sat at the back of the plane with the rest of the plebs either.

The “light snack” consisted of two Kraft cheese slices ( I use the word cheese here in the broadest sense) two slimy see through slices of ham, a cup of cold I think it may well have been coffee but its any ones guess and a stale bread roll.

If ever an airline deserved to go bankrupt it most surely is this one.

[taxexile]

welcome back , glad to see that your trip to blighty cheered you up a bit.

[ProfessorFart]

Happy New Year!

[ishmael]

I have been on an enforced trip to the UK for the past few months and believe me it gets no better.

In pubs and bars throughout the country can be heard “Allow me to buy the drinks as you are working”

Or worse still the husband come back from the job centre and tells his wife “They have found me a job.” She replies “Oh no, just as we were getting on our feet as well”.

For anyone remotely interested Cilla Black is alive and making a nuisance of herself on chat shows but looks as though she has been dead for six months, a tribute to the embalmers art.

On a lighter note, my aunt who lived in one of my properties, rent free by the way, died, and whom no doubt by now will have discovered if her one hour a week of God bothering every Sunday was worth it or not and I inherited along with the funeral bill two small dogs.

I phoned my better half and said what should I do with them she said bring them, we already have five mutts here in Thailand, she said two more won’t make any difference.

Plug for Thai women! She is an absolute star, her mates say she is lucky having me, not so I am lucky having her.

I phoned a few pet export agencies you will see they all have nice address’s Ivy cottage or some farm or the other, now I know why,

The cheapest quote I had was £895 and the most expensive was £1,529 one way and I had to do all the paperwork as well.

I usually fly with Emirates so I phoned them, their quote was £13 per kilo going as cargo so I immediately put the fat one on a diet, what they did not say was it is £13 per kilo multiplied by the size of the cage.

This came to nearly £800 plus a £50 handling charge so I knew that Air France will allow the dogs to go as excess baggage so that’s who we went with they charge £25 per kilo as the whole kit and caboodle came to 20 kilos £500.

The technical bit.

Before you can legally export a dog from the UK you need a clearance certificate from D.E.F.R.A. The department for enviroment, food and rural affairs, these are free and will be sent to your home address, or more to the point the application for a certificate will.

You will need to nominate a vet who is a L.V.I. local vetinary inspector and a date they will be leaving the country, without this the certificate cannot be issued.

The certificate for disease control will be sent to your nominated vet, these certificates are valid for ten days from the date of issue.

The dogs will have to be vaccinated against Leptospirosis ( a nasty piece of work that humans can catch)at least 21 days before export also canine distemper, infectious hepatitis and canine parvovirus and examined within 72 hours of export.

As rabies is endemic in Thailand a rabies shot is not required and anyway it is cheaper to have it done here.

These jabs on the other-hand are not free, they are injected and 14 days later a booster jab is given.

This cost £40 per dog,  two days before we went they were examined and the vet stamped the disease clearance certificate another £40.

You will also need an import certificate issued here in Thailand ours was issued at Chiang Mia airport these are also free and are valid for 30 days from the time of issue.

This was sent to me in the UK but with business commitments the certificate ran out I was faxed another and away we went.

The cage they travel in must meet I.A.T.A. regulations I will tell you what they are, the dogs as they grew up together were allowed to travel together, they must have room to stand up, turn round and have access to fresh water through a paw and nose proof grille (chicken wire) you can make one yourself for peanuts, mine cost £70 from a shop.

There is a proscribed list of dogs that cannot be imported here unfortunately my two terriers were not on it so you will have to check it out.

You will need to get to the airport at least 2-3 hours before you normally do as nobody on the check in desks had ever done this procedure before, about an hour before departure they are taken to the aircraft so they were being made a great fuss of for a few hours in Manchester airport, I was not made any fuss of at all, so nothing new there then.

At Charles De Gaulle airport I collected them and yes they came round on the carousel.

This was on New Years Eve and I had to spend 7 hours in this dump with two small and very fed up dogs.

I have no idea who designed this place but they should be sought out and shot before they get to design anything else.

I have been in more welcoming car parks, it is dark dingy and half the lights don’t work.

This airport has its own drunks, vagrants and beggars also some nitwit who spent 5 hours zooming up and down the concourse on rollerblades narrowly missing passengers the drunks obviously knew him and kept out of the way.

In my time on this planet I have had some crappy New Years but this was the worst.

Again about an hour before departure the dogs were taken and put on board.

Now Bangkok airport was the epitome of modernity and efficiency they again came round on the carousel so I went to customs the nothing to declare bit and was met by smiling helpful people.

The boss asked me where I got the import certificate from and I said it was faxed to me and he could speak to my better half who was in the arrivals hall if he wanted to but he said no its OK he checked the documents and said happy new year and that was it and while I am at it let them out of the cage so I walked out of customs followed by two small and no doubt confused dogs.

We spent what was left of New Years day in Bangkok and flew up here on the 2-1-2005 the cheapo airline Nok Air etc won’t allows dogs so we flew with Thai airways the dogs went as excess baggage 35 baht per kilo again what a difference to Air France, most helpful people.

What not to do!

Unless you are a machochist or on a diet on no account fly with Air France it is over twenty years since I have had the “pleasure” of flying with this crowd and then I only flew with them on business as I used to do work in France with any luck it will be a lot longer than twenty years before I fly with them again.

I booked on line and as I wanted to take the dogs I phoned them, the man on the other end said there was no such fare I told him the flight no’s and the price as it was on the monitor in front of me he finally agreed with me that there was this flight and price, from then on it was all down hill they charged me £10 for a paper ticket and another £10 to send it to me, a 28 pence stamp and an envelope no courier.

There were no details of what terminal I was to fly from at either Manchester or Paris airports.

At the airport they whacked me for every kilo over the 20 allowed most long haul flights give a bit of leeway but not this outfit. This is £25 per kilo excess baggage and a Happy New year to you.

The food was inedible on the flight, the cabin crew made it quite obvious that if there was any justice in this world they would be sat down and I would be dishing up “French cuisine” to them and they would not be sat at the back of the plane with the rest of the plebs either.

The “light snack” consisted of two Kraft cheese slices ( I use the word cheese here in the broadest sense) two slimy see through slices of ham, a cup of cold I think it may well have been coffee but its any ones guess and a stale bread roll.

If ever an airline deserved to go bankrupt it most surely is this one.

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[OliverWard]

So, all in all, would you recommend Air France?

OliverWard

[maerim]

So, all in all, would you recommend Air France?

I most certainly would, to anyone I did not like.

There again I don't dislike anyone that much.

[Petesear]

Why would you want to bring a dog here? It would struggle with the heat etc, not to mention there are enough mutts here already... Why not rehome the dogs in the uk? Try Woodgreen animal shelter or similar..

[pluto_manibo]

Y ou should try ALITALIA that is a close contender to the worst airline in Europe!

[udon]

Hey, welcome back.

So, now you are going to open a shelter in CM

How did the rest of the mob take to the newbies?

No fights?

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Agree abt GDG airport, a dump, and impossible to find anything or co-operative staff.

[tuktukmike]

Your very lucky,

I flew with Emirates and all was ok until i landed at BKK

I had all the paperwork you talked about but with Emirates they as you said had to go as cargo, when i arrived at Don Muang i went to cargo to pick up cats and was told they would have to spend the night as customs had gone home.

After 4 hours of grief and turmoil i mentioned that i would pay anyone who could get them released that night.

Oh how things can change, 12500bht and one hour later i was on my way.

Never again"""

[maerim]

Why would you want to bring a dog here? It would struggle with the heat etc, not to mention there are enough mutts here already... Why not rehome the dogs in the uk? Try Woodgreen animal shelter or similar..

Never mind struggling with the heat what about the cold? In the UK at Christmas the place was full of brass monkeys looking for welders, 5 below freezing I had to use a crowbar to get them out of the house as they hate being cold and as of this minute they are loving it here.

As to rehoming them, no sorry can't do that and even if I could it's a bit late now. I think my missus would consider rehoming me if I did that.

[Thaiboxer1]

There is a proscribed list of dogs that cannot be imported here unfortunately my two terriers were not on it so you will have to check it out.

Is there a copy of this list online? Where can I find? Any mention of Rottweillers forbidden?

[maerim]

Is there a copy of this list online? Where can I find? Any mention of Rottweillers forbidden?

Don't know about online but the import certificate is issued at the airport they will know.

Are you in Thailand at the moment?

If not PM me I will nip down to the airport and find out for you.

[astral]

Why import a dog?

We have enough strays in Thailand, who don't you adopt one of them!!