tingtongtourist

6 minutes ago, Traubert said:

What percentage of the 0.0036% of the population do you think would be most effective?

 

Because that's the proportion of western expats in Thailand's population.

yes but AFAIK immigration only deal with us alien farangs, not the whole Thai population.

21 minutes ago, Shiver said:

My life:

"You drink beer already?"
"Yeah, it's not good, so do you want to change yourself then?"
 

Joking, love her madly really.  She's mostly awesome... but mostly doesn't get my silver back bald fat non hairy a** to work.  What? What did I say wrong?

 

"and thats all she said"

lol

i dont know if my English is poor but i could not understand any of the rest of that post.

maybe a case for "moot gaey-oh"

5555

13 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

  1 hour ago, tingtongtourist said:

they obviously think people are working illegal.

No - that is just an excuse.  The OP could mop floors in Poland and make more than working an illegal job in Thailand.  They might stamp his passport with the "came to work illegally" stamp - but usually they just claim to have telepathically accessed his fiances, and "know" he doesn't have the funds to support himself in Thailand (in this case, for 30 days).

Ok, like i ask another poster..

why do you think they will deny one certain person and not the other?

Im sure many 1000s might have a repeating visa history same as him, but pass through without a problem.

not doubting what you said, im just always ask myself why they single out the people they do? 

must have some particular reason or other evidences that worry them?

24 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

Where did you dream this? Millions of tourists arrive in Thailand every year without a visa, they are entitled to a visa-free stay and they get it.

The problem is that the OP had been spending 10months/year with TV, not that he arrived this particular time without one. I think the IO were right to question his purpose, although of course they could have done it with a more open exchange of information.

In the end, he is flying to KL, which is not expensive and will probably give him a chance to enter Malaysia and maybe try Thailand again, depending on what they stamp on his passport, so he is not too unlucky.

i dont think you read what i wrote after the bit you highlited.

I talk about people going back after have many repeating VEs and SETVs already, not the "one time" tourist.

From all reports on this site, all the people who got denied entry (excepting for 1-2)

all try to come in using Visa Exempt method.

and all going to Don Muang airport and ALL have a long tourist history in passport.

not being argumentive, but what is your explanation for why they would deny certain people and not others?

the many 1000s of others that pass through every day?

3 hours ago, simon43 said:

 

 

 

The OP states that he had a flight ticket out within 30 days..

Yes you would think that would be ok,

so therfor now there can be no doubt the biggest NO-NO is to turn up without a visa. 

especially after having many previous entry or other VEs.

they obviously think people are working illegal.

If even having a return ticket no longer satisfy IMMs, then the airlines will have to check that every passenger going to Thailand already have a visa.

4 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Source of the actual MFA announcement? Source or it's just hearsay.

 

The same system that alerts on 6 VE entries does not alert on 3 SETVs or 1 METV, so I doubt it was set in place to prevent tourists from staying longer than 180 days a year. More likely it is there so long term tourists have to get tourist visas and prove they have means to support themselves, which does make sense.

Firstly they consider him the VE abuser, which now seem a worse crime than even living there many years.

Right or wrong, they obviously assume people avoid to get the real visa for bad reasons.

Because for YEARS they warns people "next time get the real visa"

(instead of VE and preferable to get from you own country)

And for some reason people dont understand why...

That when you get the right visa you are screened and vetted from the Thai official consul and that satisfy them of proof of your situation and meet requirements  

Sorry, but really no excuse, we been reading it over and over on here people getting knocked back for VEs

On 3/17/2019 at 1:17 AM, attrayant said:

Just think about that for a moment.

 

To get a retirement stay, you have to prove you can support yourself financially by showing 800K in the bank that... you can't touch to support yourself for five months of the year.

maybe they want people with savings well over 800k?

and 800k can then be an insurance for medical expense and some disaster?

If faranks didnt hang around in Thailand untill they are completely destitute and have 0 baht it might not come to this.

And they are probably bored of scraping up farangs off the concrete under the condo balcony.

It really is a bit of a laugh all the 

"welcome to my ignore list"

dude/s,

now frothing on the mouth as if they are asked of US$ 1 million.

its only like $30k for goodness sake!!

honestly with the way these guys complain and run down Thailand at every chance

i have no suprise Thailand is welcoming them to the "exit Thailand immigration lane"

Anyway, if its true

30 million tourist are coming to Thailand per year..

around 80,000 per day!!

and we hear of a few people get knocked back here

But TBH, we dont know the FULL story why these guys got locked out.

is there stuff they dont share on here?? (understandable)

No offence, but...

1. Thais can be judgemental about many things, even a Nigerian looking suntan (unfortunate but we cant change it)

and they assume many work illegally or upto no good.

2. Also many TROLLS are bored on thaivisa and those who just posting pure

bบแsหit !!!

So take away the above arguments and really,

getting denied entry when have a legit visa its really just a case of

"being shit outta luck"

If she asks for money I will drop her as quick as I picked her up.

I get what you mean, but surely you know to be involved with any female anywhere means laying out big $????

In the west they dont 'ask' because its obvious how soon will come many things you 'need' when you are together.

if have kids, it really is the end of your easy life!

in no time you become the prisoner to debt, working til age 70 and even then still owe money.

These girls are different. most do what they do because they have to, because theres no other way of making money and no easy welfare payments.

so dont be kee-niow, give them a bit of the surplus $ so little you wont even miss it.

It usually goes to family, food and neccesitys after all.. not a yacht in Accapulco and holidays in the south of France.

and to the lowlifes on this site constantly calling them whores

you can pull your heads in...

You dont think you have been a whore ALL your life?...

The bank is your pimp and Xcorp who you work for has fบcked you the whole time.

well i find it very hard to believe they still have data going back to the 90s and can/would use it against us now.

Thai governments have not been known for updating to the latest cutting edge technology,

and Of course its just another opinion,

but to say they have info on every single tourist since the late 80s sounds a bit like fiction to me.

5 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said:

Go too your local immigration office and ask to see your immigration history. It is all there on the system. I have seen mine all the way back to 1989 and could of gone back further. Every entry, every time you departed. Flight numbers, passports, TM6 cards you have filed, TM30 reports etc. Everything is there on the system. Immigration offices have access too the exact same system as entry points.

Well I never experience such a friendly Immigration officer as this!

I think if you try it in Bangkk they will look at you strangely,

ask why you want?

or tell you to "bpai Loy"

or maybe all 3!! 

maybe i try it next time i am at the upcountry office.

23 hours ago, dcnx said:

They still don’t log overstays. 

 

A new passport is a clean slate.

This debate been going on for years and even now is only down to peoples opinion.

Even the most knowledgable moderator on this thread, indicated he cant say 100% for sure.

First, many claim they match the old passport to the new with the PP number,

but it cant be right since i had many new pps myself and got new numbers every time.

Then they say IMMs match new PP to your old PP history by using other personal data.

personally, i doubt Thailand IMMs system was ever this well organised or even have a data matching capablility...

certainly not before the "chip" passports came into place anyway, but now it might be different.

and this is the trouble, 

To many TV parrots squarking about things as if they are the fact, when they really do not know 100% at all!!!

the only way we can know for sure is if some TV member have a Thai in-law or some really close Thai friend that is higher up in IMMs..

but since when does hi-up Thai IMMs ever associate with farangs?

lol

except for all BบเเsHit artists here on Thaivisa of course. 5555  

On 3/2/2019 at 12:11 PM, Lovethailandelite said:

Then unfortunately, you are not suitable for the scheme. You are what is termed as 'Undesirable' in the eyes of immigration.

I am wondering if you

<Lovethailandelite>

do work or are an agent for this elite visa scheme?

not doubting anything you say,

but since you seem to speak like some sort of authority on this subject, 

telling people they are undesirable etc etc

the members might want to know if you are actually qualified to say this, or is it just your opinion as a TE member?

On 3/2/2019 at 12:27 PM, simon43 said:

This is worrying news (for me).  I already have a 5-year TE visa, which expires this year in September.  But if I do a visa-run before that expiry date, then I should (not yet fully confirmed) that I'll get a further one year visa stamp which would see me through to September 2020.

 

But what then?  In the past 18 years of living in Thailand, I know that on at least 2 occasions I overstayed by one or two days, (my own fault, either due to not reading the visa expiry date correctly, or due to my departing flight date and immigration advice to pay the small fine at the airport).

 

Does that make me an 'undesirable', even though I already have a TE visa?

 

These visa rules are getting crazier and crazier...

This does answer many questions, you  got granted elite visa even with a few questionable things in your history.

But surely they will not reject the renewal if the visa already in your passport?

but who knows..they would be very poor sods if they did.

It looks more obvious now these IOs make a decision simply on a "whim" or at least using  some "case by case" strategy.

So, maybe you are Brit and happen to have a 1-2 overstay they might disregard by itself.

-But if have 1 day overstay, and happen to be the citizen (of say Nigeria) the officer have a "bad feeling" certainly he will reject.

anyway the rules always said, even if your granted a visa you can be denied entry by a individual officer anytime.

sad to say it, but the buck can stop with just 1 power tripper officer

 who will have a bit of a beef against your nationality or skin colour or just dont like the look of you

well if whats said above us true it sounds like the "BIG JOKE" is on us.

but those agents are greedy cockroaches i know for sure, so who is really to know who gets what slice of the pie.

To say Immigration set it all up to get more tea money sounds a bit paranoid tho.

I think theres high-up guys in IMMs thats honestly trying to fix things, but they will never stop the troops on the ground finding a way to get some tea money.

Many farnangs will keep complaining hard about how bad Thailand is and how they are leaving, 

but still they will keep paying nearly ANY amount to stay here.

the mind boggles.5555

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

12 hours ago, tingtongtourist said:

SO..,
now its UNFAIR because for years and years these guys been using visa agents to fraudulently get around financial requirements.
 
now Immigration actually asking for real proof.
 
yeah..SO unfair
5555

I haven't seen any proof yet agents have stopped

Well, the first report i read says that the IMMs knew what is going on about agents giving applicants the "one day loan" deposit, to fix up the financial requirements.

They said the requirement of having the money seasoned for another 3 months after would stop that, so the intention was always to stop the agents doing it.

So surely Imms are not so stupid that they wont check the bank accounts and just let the agents deposit the amount again on the 2 month 29th day before the 3month check?

Or is the agent gonna leave that money in the accounts for 3 months?
and loose a lot of investment income..very VERY unlikely!!

But now I heard of agents are telling people "dont worry about it...nothing changes"

So either the agents price is gonna go WAY UP as there will be a bigger (ahem) "costs" involved in getting it to go through smoothly.

So if the next hike they are talking fees around 30-40k +
a fellow might as well just fly back home and apply for visa in his own country.

can either get ME visa from a consulate or maybe show the money requirement in his home currency bank for retirement visa

SO..,

now its UNFAIR because for years and years these guys been using visa agents to fraudulently get around financial requirements.

now Immigration actually asking for real proof.

yeah..SO unfair

5555

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

As far as I know, we haven't heard one bit of information about this.

Does going under (either during the three months 800K or the later 400K) simply mean you won't be eligible for your next extension, or does that put the expat's current extension into the not valid zone. There was a comment from Phuket immigration about the 400K saying -- just don't do it. But people will do it either because they plan to leave or it just happens. 

do you really think they will be monitoring all farangs bank accounts and come chasing people the day it goes under 400k?

lol

if you intend to leave and spend the cash before, but have permitted to stay stamp date is X months into the future, you can stay until that date without worry..

dont think they are gonna come banging your door down lol