tingtongtourist

On 5/20/2019 at 10:47 PM, wisperone said:

In other words..even if you have another policy from outside of Thailand, you'll probably end up having to purchase the Thai policy. Turning the screws.

that post is from the guy i quoted, not me. but never mind.

Thai minister said overseas policies ok, but first must work on a ways to verifying.

So, chop chop lads, we have 2 months to train thousands of IMM officers to read all languages of the world and understand all worlds of insurance policies.

yes sir,

can do

can do

no plobrem

2 hours ago, Seth1a2a said:

I was told by a financially successful married Thai friend that the 50,000 is indeed a general benchmark of expectation. It's what he gives his wife and more but when he directed me to do the same in order to insure love and loyalty

I had to point out the major flaw that many guys who go to Thailand or live  there seem to ignore or overlook.  

 Women outnumber men in Thailand . I posted this in another thread but it is also relevant here. Scarcity creates value , excess creates devaluation.  Also, the older they get the closer they are to expiration in their culture in addition to the baggage of kids from a previous relationship with a Thai guy before heading out to strike up a lucrative deal with a so called rich foreigner.  Trust me this is not the Kansas city strip club where 10 guys  sit around a fat mother of 5 pole dancer and throw tips hoping she will let them put a dollar in her bra.  The girls working in Thai bars are only a drop in the bucket compared to the ones who are available.  Widen your scope and you won't need a telescope to find them for a lot less than 50000bht a month.................

 

Is your friend one of those dirty old buggers who is 70y.o and want a 20y.o wife ??

if so then 50k seems a good deal to me..

10k baht for every 10years of age difference.

this is why its a good idea to go for lady who is only 10 years younger.

555

On 5/11/2019 at 4:39 PM, simon43 said:

Being able to write Thai is a useful skill for me that meets a particular need.  When I teach English to young Thai children, they often have zero skills in reading English letters and phonics, and are very shy. But they are old enough (8 years+) to be able to read Thai script.

 

That being the case, I write the English word using Thai script, so that they are able to correctly pronounce the English word.

 

Eg - for the English word 'get', I might write 'เก็ด'

 

Sometimes, it can be tricky trying to think of the best Thai letters to use when reating the English word ????

Kudos to you sir and congrats on getting to that level.

But do be careful showing such advanced teaching skills if the school have many farang teachers.

Very jealous and vindictive crybabys some of them!!

If you are thinking about which option to do, you might consider:

option A

2 month + extension 

border run 

2 month + extension

border run (just before visa expiry then back in for another three months

option B

3 Border runs (just before each 2 month entry expires)  

for me its option A

only because of one less border run i have to do.

which are expensive,

extra space taken on passport from other country visa, 

time consuming,

stress with dealing with IMMs and scammers at the border and a hassle to travel to and from consulate.

the vans are convenient but more expensive.

cramped up in a tiny seat many hours.

the drivers can be maniacs 

and you can be seated next to some D'head farang chewing on your ear for hours!

all up, not much fun!

also i did tend to loose more days doing B method because cant always leave 1 day before visa expires due to the calender fall and other issues. 

but of course if you staying very close to a border the issues might be different

11 hours ago, Cabradelmar said:

You are delusional if you think this will not apply (soon) to those holding "retirement" visas or every other type of long stay status

and risking tourism $ ??

Let me as you about this bright idea..

It is reported that Thai reccomend a policy that covers no less than 400k baht.

So, if people have the minimum cover and need a big Op..say 2 million...

The hospital get back 400k and the big bad foriegner can then run away without paying the other 1.6 million.

But mandatory 400k insurance will solve all the problems??

lol

come on, they are not that stupid!

 IMO. no big conspiracy against farang with this.

They just want to be sure people who come are not a drain on the system.

and really who can blame them that? 

many countries do it. Go to Australia and see how you get ripped off.

As always, if you have money you will be ok here.

BTW, This OX visa

(is it needed 3 million in bank AND insurance??)

is there any figures on how many got it?

Id take a guess near to Zero takers with those kind of requirement.

 (I never read any on here who got it).

this would tell them people wont stand to be conned into insurance scam and loosing to much by depositing huge figures in a Thai bank.

Tourism and longstayers are worth more to them than they will admit. but they know it dont worry!!

so my prediction: will never happen.

i think we have all been clickbaited and trolled.

2 minutes ago, monkeycu said:

Now we can look forward to 4 more years of being screwed but this group of parasites  who care only about themselves, screw the pensioners

hmm No thanks

think i will stick with the Thai gf.

she 15 years my junior

4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I don't think it will apply as activating a 2nd year is still with the original OA visa. When the visa expires and you apply for a new one (the misnamed "renewal") in your home country you will insurance.

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As i understand you can exit before the first year is up and come back in through IMMs at a land border to start the second year.

Im asking how and when they will verify you have the insurance for a 2nd year?

when you go through that border?

How will some somchai at Cambodian border read/ identify French or whatever insurance policys?

15 minutes ago, simon43 said:

You're in cloud-cuckoo land!  There won't be any international embarrassment whatsoever.  This is all about 'encouraging' expats to go live elsewhere.  The country is under the thumb of the Chinese and you hardly see the Chinese government inviting old 'farang' to come and retire in China.

 

Everyone should have a plan B (or C or...).  The Thai people may love westerners, but the government does not.

I think you think to much!

Its like when BJ said they did catch 500 farangs but you go to look at the picture and its all dark faces, Lao, Burmese and the like.

Think about this, how many white faces would they really let walk from a hospital without paying?

Id say the ones not paying hospital bills are Lao, Burma etc

like construction type workers having accidents on the job or others having accidents on bikes or whatever.

None of them would have money so what they do? cant get blood out of the stone.

Id say with the broad brush of what they know and call a "foriegner" many people are wrongly assuming its just white westerners when the opposite is more likely.

wait soon for an announcement they will go ahead with insurance requirement but only on a few nationalities..like countries bordering Thailand.

11 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

Why would you want Immigration Officers verify this insurance when you arrive in Thailand ?? 

No need. far easier to verify it in their foreign embassies or their local immigration offices.

yes but what about when O-A holders does a border run to come back in and stay for a second year?

Id say they will want to verify the insurance policy is still goes for 2nd year?

So will they check the paperwork at all borders?

or maybe they excuse us from doing the border runs and just show your paperwork at offices such as CW?

555

or everyone just end up getting 1 year of cover and thats it? 

On 5/15/2019 at 8:57 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

It has nothing to do with Extensions. Just applications for OA visas (and OX visas which have had a compulsory insurance requirement for some time) which can only be applied for outside Thailand.

You have nothing to worry about, although why anyone would live here without insurance is beyond me.

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my question is why would anyone pay such a BS industry as insurance?

Some write on here it could cost him 100k per year for cover of 400k!

that is complete BS joke in anyones language!

and even then you have the chance they wont pay up for some reason.

If you in reasonable health dont drive, ride, smoke or drink to much, Thailand have little risk really.

I known many guys been here 10 years and had no problem they would need insurance for and all will have saved millions of baht allready.

Actually the only risk i can see is the Thai ladies but if it goes bad they probably will finish you off for good so no need to worry about that

25 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If you're over 55 you can get a VISA 1 month ($30) & 3 month ($100) single entries, with the 6 month ($150) and 12 month ($280) VISAs being multi entry and no financials, investments, insurance, address reporting or 90 day reporting BS. No need to ever visit immigration either, all done through high street agents.

 

The only catch, you have to enter on a $35 ordinary VISA to get the extensions.

The $30 tourist VISA and eVISA they won't allow long term extension.

thanks for that info.

Maybe an option: Get 1st multiple entry for Thailand from home country, nearly 8 months stay.

Then travel over border in Isaan for getting ME for Cambodia.

then back home for short stay, rinse and repeat

On 5/16/2019 at 12:42 PM, Andrew Dwyer said:

Yes you can get a second year ( permission to stay, using re entry permit to travel outside ) after your ME OA visa has expired ( 1 year after issue ).

Then after the second year you just extend for 1 year ( your permission to stay ) but of course have to show the Thai financial requirements. Yearly extensions then onwards.

An option ( which I was considering ) is to go back “ home “ to get another OA avoiding the money in Thai bank , of course this Health insurance malarkey has given me second thoughts.

I see what you mean.

Would only have to have the insurance for the first year and then convert into extension of stay

but yes, who wants to put 800k in a Thai bank at these exchange rates?

Maybe ED visa look like the best option? 

On 5/15/2019 at 2:24 PM, BritManToo said:

I avoided Cambodia for the last ten years because of everyone badmouthing it.

Then a pal moved there this year, I went to see him January in Siem Reap and loved the place.

Then I went to see him April in Phnom Penh again totally loved the place.

 

I can't believe I avoided it for 9 years .......... it was like Thailand when i first arrived ten years back.

Do you know about the visa options for Cambodia?

Do they do a multiple entry?

3 minutes ago, zydeco said:

The 400K is kept permanently, not just a few months. And if your 800K equivalent is not in a Thai bank, then maybe they want that money in a Thai bank. That's what happened with the letters of income. Income did not have to be deposited in a Thai bank. Now, it does.

we are talking about when you apply for visa in your own country.

The consulates there will except the proof in the currency of your country OR Thai baht, i dont think that will ever change.

IMO, This really is nothing to do with medical bills or they would also include it for all foriegners over 50y.o on extensions or whatever permit to stay they use.

No, they are clearly aim at the visa applicant who get a visa showing proof of funds in another country/currency.

Who is gonna get O-A visa from your own country if you gotta pay 50k baht for useless insurance?

of course people will now do it the way you suggested.. to get O visa for Thailand by showing 800k in thai bank. 

job done!

6 minutes ago, Ricebarnandrooms said:

Why dont you just apply for a non o visa from the Thai embassy, reason retirement. When you arrive you go to immigration within  a month, with letters from the bank. That way you are not getting a O-A but a normal one.

It was not for me, just answering another poster.

But im not sure if you can get non O, from an outside embassy? 

I think they offer O-A.

Anyway, your plan would work even if just come in on tourist visa then apply for O later, as you said.

But I think many would have a problem about putting 800k in a Thai bank because some exchange rates are now very poor.

I guess this is why people prefer the O-A from own country as you can show equal to 800k baht in your own country bank account currency.

Im sure now they will have nobody get this visa if you must pay a fortune for what is useless insurance cover.

The whole thing is a completely useless exercise anyway

some foriegner who didnt pay bills would have racked up millions in some cases..

but this insurance covers what? 400k? 

LOL

so the hospital is gauranteed to get back 400k frim insurance company, but what about if is a majour surgery that cost

3million? 

the foriegner is then ok to run away without paying the other 2,600,000?

  lol

14 hours ago, ianezy0 said:

Thanks for the reply.

i already had a Thai bank AC from when I was working over here so I transferred the 800k before my application. I printed off an online statement which was then signed by a JP in Cairns. 

I have put 800k into a FD account thinking I would need to show this when it came to renew. But, as you inform me, I will not be able to extend or renew the OA visa in Thailand. Do I understand you correctly? Cheers

I did think you can exit just before the O-A expires and come back in to get a second year, but after the second year you cannot do again, and must get another O-A from your own country again.

my opinion, others might clarify

16 hours ago, zydeco said:

There is no requirement for maintaining an account balance. As long as they get their 65K per month posted, they can withdraw it all the next day. That may be seen as a problem. 400,000 minimum maintained in a bank account permanently, as with the 800,000 retirees might be what they're thinking. 

As i understand, the O-A applicant must show equal to 800k in bank account in his own country.

many would probably be more cashed up than TV guys screaming about having to keep 400k in the bank a few months

On 5/9/2019 at 12:02 PM, rodentwarrior said:

The UK Government doesn't have any money, except what is paid into the treasury by UK Taxpayers (like myself).

I certainly don't pay Tax so my money can be used to bail out people who make wrong choices.  This is about acting in a civilised manner, and being responsible for your own choices and actions.

I don't know the story here, but if the guy has mental health problems that is a concern.  It seems that his 'beef' was that the landlord didn't issue him with a receipt for his rent - so what?  Was his tenancy under threat?  I rented a condo from a Thai in Bangkok for years, never got a receipt for rent, because it's just a piece of paper acknowledging a monthly sum.  If the guy was causing a noise over such a little thing, maybe it's a good thing that he gets deported?

he was paying the rent to the landlords son and suspected he was just pocketing it.

The parents (or whoever landlord) could then say they have no record and the rent hasnt been paid for

X months.

you dont think that could be an issue?

On 5/7/2019 at 11:36 PM, hakama said:

 

So what? Even if that's true, who are you to stick your nose in the matters that are none of your business?

Actually it is everyones business who stays here and wants a visa.

To often good people are treated unfairly just because their country (or other extreme citizens of country) did something to upset the host country.

If i was Russian i would not want these clowns being the example that make the Thai think all Russians are scum-bags and beggers

2 hours ago, madmen said:

Tv  has been predicting the collapse of the condo market the collapse of the baht and tourism for 20 Years now ..hasn't happened!!!

Boy did you guys get that wrong. But keep posting and when a correction happens maybe after another 20 years of crash postings you can all turn around and say "I told you so" ????

haha

ok but never been this sort of widespread expansion of MRT and BTS lines before around BKK

and to building another mass of unneeded condos all around every station.

and on top of that theres all the shopping centres, and those "park" style shopping centres going up on everywhere and none of them have customers!!

you tell me, how can it go on? lol

investors and banks want their money back you know!

i tell you, it will be the straw that break the camels back!!