tingtongtourist

18 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Big Joke,came to Chiang Mai,saw what was going on with immigration there,

and made changes,now they start at 8.00*,and extensions are done very quickly,

90 day I used to always do by post,last 4 reports I did online and works very well,

so only go to immigration office once a year,which is enough for me.

regards Worgeordie                                 *don't close for lunch either.

Big Joke will certainly fix the waiting times at C.M.

By getting rid of the agents who dump hundreds of applications at a time and make the queue to be slow.

but the waiting time is what many complain about, now some will have a worse problem.

kinda ironic isnt it!!

and one thing i noticed about Thailand,

if the farang complain to much

sure, they will fix the problem but when they fix it they like to create a worse problem than the original.

can be a lesson in that

On 2/16/2019 at 7:00 PM, tlandtday said:

Yeah it is the wives and kids who will suffer the most from these xenophobic policies.  I predict mass overstays. 

And what if Thai IMMs check for people in the visa system of recent, whos visa expired and are not matched up with an exit stamp out of the country?

So it will be easier to catch any overstayers, IF they want to investigate.

and with all the many forms we filled out they will have no problem knowing addresses and where we hang out.

so maybe can also predict more overstayers getting tapped

14 hours ago, ttrd said:

RE - And lets be honest, they dont really offer Thais or the country anything of value,

 

Well, this in not quite correct - in a broader perspective they keep both the immigration, police, court and the jail busy which secures places of work for Thais which again benefit the country as a whole ...

 

Nothing is so wrong that it is not good for anything ...

ok, going by this theory, then why go blacklisting farangs for years and years?

surely better to let them straight back in?

for collecting more fines, backanders and fixing unemployment, maybe even some extra cusomer for the prison system.

5555 

On 2/12/2019 at 3:39 AM, humbug said:

i understand people's choices for various visas thats still available to all of us, but to claim 800k over a year period makes 100k, come on, property funds here pay 5% after tax yearly(quarterly payment), compounded over 5 years thats around 250k earnings from 800k, people are really being asked to lose their right to earn with keeping money tied up in low interest accounts

no, i was factoring interest on 800k to be around 20k per year.

the 100k was talking about the total interest loss over 5 years, if having a retirement visa compared to 500k cost of the elite visa for 5 years.

Chances is, he who can afford a lazy 800k will probably have much more where it came from.

So many making out they are terribly hard done by because they can only scratch up 800k and not one baht more

actually make you wonder how many have been rorting the system all along and really havent got a pot to plรร in

15 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I have even less sympathy for them because they could just send the 800k over in 65k baht monthly instalments. No need to keep any money in a Thai bank account. Something that you couldn't do last year. They should be thanking Thai Immigration for removing the need to keep the money in a Thai bank account.

really nobody can have sympathy for them. 

the requirements have been there all along, so in that sense the goal posts havent really mooved as some are saying.

if they were following the rule

and had money in bank OR monthly earnings,

then surely it would not be much harder to keep the figure topped at 800k/400k for a few extra months?

its obviousl these guys must never had the money all along and been paying agents or doing other dodgy stuff to stay here.

and to note: most of our own countries demand foreigners have much MUCH more in bank, and have nearly impossible conditions for an ordinary person to get visa long term

paying off visa agents is simply unheard of

so yeah, so sorry to say

 it seems like to many have had it to good for to long being able to skirt around the flimsy lack of enforcement.

with this Big Joke fellow on the job, the axe was always going to come down sooner or later

On 2/1/2019 at 12:18 AM, jackdd said:

You can't forget it, you have to show it every 3 months ????

 

The agent deposits 400k / 800k or whatever is required on this date into the bank account, gets a letter from the bank stating that the money is in the bank account, and withdraws the money again. The IO will not ask for any papers which explicitly say the money was there all the time.

Of course an IO will only "forget" to ask an agent about such papers, if YOU go to get your extension you can be sure he wants to see a proof for every single day.

For you guys who believe this 100%, why not find all these bent IOs yourself,

and offer them a tip?

it cuts out the middleman agent and could save you 10k or so

On 2/2/2019 at 6:43 PM, murraynz said:

i think some people are paranoia about security of our money in thai banks..

i think this is unfounded--they are as "almost' as safe as any bank -elsewhere...

i think those that make the most 'fuss' about depositing 800,000thb in thai bank---

simply dont have the funds--sure the interest rate is minimal-tax, but 800,000 is not a huge amount to earn much income, anyehere else....

exactly.

what earnings would make on 800k?

maybe at best rate in my country will get you 20k per year.

which over 5 years will be 100k.

so to secure retirement visa, a loss of 100k interest over 5 years is still way better than burning 500k for 5 years of the overpriced elite visa

the biggest problem with keeping 800k in a Thai bank:

-most foriegner dont have 800k

then must wonder why you see so many married guys on a visa run 

every 3 months at border getting another visa because dont have the 400k for marriage visa.

sorry to say but so many down and outer farangs in thailand cant scrap up even 400k

how many is gonna have 800k?

Thais are cleaning out the cupboards and not gonna be many left when they finish

4 minutes ago, Khaeng Mak said:

No. Under the new rules you have to have a minimum of the equivalent of 400Kthb in your account at all times.  If you don't your extension will be invalid.  Same as when you are on a Non B extension but you lose your job. 

i cant see where it said "at all times"?

stated for retirement, to must show every 3 months, i guess if and when reporting address.

so you can draw on the money in bank for nearly 3 months but top it up to the right amount just before you go to immigration

24 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

OK so those affected by this change need to investigate a monthly transfer service like Transferwise.

 

And or setting up repeating monthly transfers from their bank outside of Thailand where ever it may be.  

 

The exchange rate is something you will have to monitor month to month.

 

 

 

 

my understanding: for first year, you can apply for visa in your own country, showing your own $/funds same as 800k in bank.

then for 2nd year/extension: need to show 800k baht in Thai bank.

i dont know if this is 100% correct tho?

As for your theory about exchange rate, would it not be best to do monthly income and wait for a time of a high exchange rate?

Then transfer 800k in one hit when have the good rate?

I always wonder how people over 50y.o

can be secure in retirement in Thailand

if they cannot arrange to have 800k in a Thai bank

but i guess, up to them!

34 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

For 600k you can buy a cons and get a free 20 year visa

 

sounds good

but whats the catch tho?

would probably have to live in some place like Pattaya to get that deal

1 hour ago, tingtongtourist said:

im lost why you mention 600k

baht?

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

 

Yeah, I don’t doubt that...

 

ok genius. if you said 400k or 800k i might be able to make some story out of BS, but 600k??

On 11/18/2018 at 6:52 PM, mogandave said:

 

You mean like the 600k?

 

im lost why you mention 600k

baht?

13 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Here is news for you. Thailand isn't the only country that will sell you real estate with out any guarantee of a visa. Many people invest in projects in foreign countries they do not reside in. You seem to be confusing living in some $20,000 shoe box with investing. 

 

 

Ok but its not news that many places in Thailand have a terrible market for condos, cannot sell or rent them.

If they gave farang a certain visa for just buy a condo, it must to help that market and have a few more farangs duped of a big sum.

which im sure they like!

4 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

So do you think they should not allow people to invest in condos?

 

The condo market here is a dead loss anyway so they could at least give the farang who buy a condo some special visa class.

like investment visa but less than 10 million baht.

On 11/17/2018 at 12:40 AM, pjthefey said:

I've felt a lot less welcome here in the last 6-9 months compared to 2-4 years ago.  When I apply for visas, and even extensions I'm given the third degree (applying a couple of weeks ago in Hanoi being the exception), and even when I last left Thailand departing immigration hassled me.... when I was LEAVING the country.

 

I haven't noticed any issues with non-government Thai citizens, but I do feel less welcome.  I've actually made the decision to relocated to Hanoi in December-January.  I have friends there that are helping me negotiate a condo which is less money for 2-5x the size of what I have now in the same quality building (Swimming pools, work out rooms, etc.).  

 

I don't like the feeling that next visa run might be the time when I'm unable to get back to my condo and belongings, so yeah.. relocating to a country that gives my nationality 1 year tourist visas without the hassle.  I can't speak for other countries in the region, but VN seems to actually want my kind there. 

Yes, how ridiculous it is that you can invest in the condo in Thailand but must worry if they give you the visa.

what can you say about this? but to say maybe best to not invest anything in the place.

On 10/7/2016 at 12:20 AM, MikeyIdea said:

 

I certainly don't want them to change. Where would I go if they change to be like Europeans?  

 

aye, so very true

24 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

No worries, it's never longer than four weeks to my next pension payment.

555 not really meaning to direct that comment to you

 but yes i must agree, being a pensioner has advantages in Thailand!

4 hours ago, BritManToo said:

 

But a Burmese or Cambodian working for 150bht/day on a building site is more than welcome.

For little peanuts they pay them worker they making a fortune,

and is a direct profit for them and business, not just ripple effect of farangs renting condos and buying beer.

Everyone know the Thai "dont think to mutt"

So a lot of this rubbish is farang presuming what the Thais are thinking is just that,

rubbish and all in the imagination!

and.. "they really dont want us here, just our money"

lol..we must hear this Over over over again, like a fxcking broken record!

The rich Thai certainly dont need farang money, and i will suggest most other normal Thai are just busy trying to scrape a living to be worry about farangs and them being here.

But of course if you are someones walking ATM you will always be highly valuable!

just dont expect any thanks!

and dont cry when you must go home broke!

On 9/5/2018 at 3:36 PM, ReneTH said:

Well, I doubt it be better in neighbouring countries then as well... Even if the 40k decreased 15% more, he still be fine (if using a different path to obtain the visa as of financial proof).

But if any, I guess i would switch between Cambodia, Laos and Thailand for averages and fun.

I dont get how you live any cheaper if mooving between three places like that?

Visa and travel costs, lugging all your stuff around, constantly finding new appartments..

and you would be paying daily rate as its only short stay, no?

then there is the security deposit on each place?

IMO it would not be worth all the trouble, especially in Thailand since you will always get a few who make up B.S escuse not to give your deposit back.