Tornado

Mine had also run out and when I went to motor reg in S.A. this year, they said it had been more than 5 years and I would have resit my test. yeah right.

Motor Reg man did say, that if you translate your Thai licence into English, you can use that..

TORNADO

Can't handle successful retired business women eh!

Anyway, when they eventually catch up with all you falangs working in real esate and you are back home and fat through not having ever worked, you will be wishing that you lived in Talang and got some excercise.

The writing is on the wall for you however safe you think you are, just as it was with the 30 day "tourists". The knock on the door will come for you, then it will be goodbye fat falang developer who thinks he has his finger on the pulse.

769 properties and land plots for sale this week in Phuket Gazette. Thats well up on the four pages last month.

You motor mouth bogus posters are trying to talk the market up, state black is white, when we can all see the amount of for sale signs increasing.

You could post your accounts on here if you want us to believe you.

could be a drunk? drug addict? not sure what the hel_l your raving on about Stephanie, but please keep it up, i makes me laugh every morning I log in.

As global oil prices stabilised somewhat, a litre of pure palm oil would cost more than a litre of diesel and it would make no economic sense for the government to subsidise the project, started two years ago and ignored by farmers, he said

If he think's it was ignored by the farmers in the south, he would be wrong. You only have to drive through Phang Nga, Krabi and Nakhon Si Thammarat and you will see thousands of rai of newly planted palms. Just in my wifes village, nearly all of the farmers have abandoned prawn farming to take up palm farming.... It seems it was an initiative set up by the government and higher.....

As the palms (Im told) take three years to produce oil many of these farms are in early stages.

Will the government still buy the oil or will there be anyone to sell it to?

I planted 15 Rai myself last year and the brother in law has been through hel_l with rats eating them and the major flood early this year.

I hope there is still a market.

Which airport are you talking about? I want to rent a car in bangkok, where could I get a similarly priced one?

Across the road from the airport "exit gate" there is a few car rental places. Toyota Vios 14,000 per month, very cheap on fuel as well. The large Thai guy that owns/runs the business is a great guy also. He guarantees the lowest price cars. I rented a Vios (14k per month) for the wife, before buying her one and I also rented a Toyota Fortuna (30k per month) before I decided not to buy one.

I forget the name of the Rental company, but as you go into the office, there is a longish desk on the left side, a lady behind the counter and a big Thai giy around 45 hovering around. A really nice guy. You will know your in the right place, when they bring out a can of Pepsi.

Good Luck.

Phuket!.... not sure about Bangers, maybe try in that forum. good luck.

Across the road from the airport "exit gate" there is a few car rental places. Toyota Vios 14,000 per month, very cheap on fuel as well. The large Thai guy that owns/runs the business is a great guy also. He guarantees the lowest price cars. I rented a Vios (14k per month) for the wife, before buying her one and I also rented a Toyota Fortuna (30k per month) before I decided not to buy one.

I forget the name of the Rental company, but as you go into the office, there is a longish desk on the left side, a lady behind the counter and a big Thai giy around 45 hovering around. A really nice guy. You will know your in the right place, when they bring out a can of Pepsi.

Good Luck.

Do you think he would give discounted rate for 6 month rental. Was kinda hoping for around 10,000-11,000 per month paid up front for 6 months.

Also do you know about his insurance or is it ex insurance? If you have his contact details that would be great.

Cheers.

He might do a better deal, you can ask. I think less than $400 USD a month for a car less than two years old is a bargain, but..............

You could get a Suzuki Jeep for about that

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[/b]Tornado 2006-09-29 17:51:38 Post #45

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QUOTE(Steph1012 @ 2006-09-29 15:31:30)

Nice try Tornado. Keep talking it up and try not to get too steamed up about it as well, we all have opinions and this is mine.

I am a keen cyclist and clock up hundreds of KM every week on and off the Island. Get out of your office and car a bit more if you want to know whats going on here.

Just seen 350 rai being auctioned off, and here are four full pages of houses for sale.

http://phuketgazette.net/classifieds/phuke...f=2006929151115

Also try a search on Google, theres thousands of adds. Lot of land was bought up by speculators and they are struggling to shift any of it.

Some of these have been on for over a year. A lot of these adds are for multiple houses on developments and there are massive plots of land.

Try Chao Fah Road as well. There are hundreds of properties for sale at Land and house, Middle Road, Phuket Villa etc. etc., Massive complexes going in up at Talang as well.

Hundreds of plots for sale and when you ring about one, you are always offered more choices as a lot of the adds are from agents and discounts are always offered.

AND THE REPLY FROM TORNADO

Im not getting steamed up, Im suggesting you are looking at crap land in crap locations.

Who wants to live in these areas? That is the Thai market. Your initial response to this thread was regarding land being plentifull, this is not the case.

Houses are always for sale and always will be. Land on the other hand is very hard to get in the right areas.

Hundreds of plots for sale, but where? How much? Are the titles ok? due dilligence done? under the 80 meter height restriction? flying sor kor 1? national park? airport noise? zone? build height restrictions? servitude? water? electricity?

The west coast has 5 plots left on the beach and that is a pretty large coast.

The Panwa area: looks like loads of land until you get the paperwork and they are either tor bor 6 or sor kor 1, which is no good to a foreigner.

The Kathu area: try and find a 1 or 2 Rai plot without a major overhead powerline behind you.

The Layan area: Last year selling at 3-4 mil per Rai, now 7 mil and up and very hard to find.

The Surin area: try and find a nice sea view plot.

Kamala: millionaires row. 3 plots left on the whole road.

Mai Kao: 2 beachfront land plots and other than that, some jungle plots in horrible locations.

Rawai: find a 1 rai plot.

Nai Harn: rare as rocking horse shit.

Patong: two larger plots left under the 80 meter mark and no 1 rai plots.

Cherngtalay: plenty of low level land that needs to filled (cost about 600 k a Rai to fill)

Thalang: last year 500 k per rai, now 1 mil per Rai and selling to Bangkok Thais and a few foreigners.

Chalong: I can go throgh every road if you like.

East Coast: Ao Phor, not much sea view left and selling at 7 mil per Rai and upwards.

Yamoo: 25 mil per Rai if you buy in the nice area and other land in this area is land banked by Thais from Bangkok or anyone with money for that matter.

Koh Sirea, a dump and the most lawless area on the island and the land price is still 6 mil and up per rai.

Now lets go through your post:

Just seen 350 rai being auctioned off, and here are four full pages of houses for sale."

350 Rai isnt what the average foreigner wants and the houses I've already covered.

"Also try a search on Google, theres thousands of adds. Lot of land was bought up by speculators and they are struggling to shift any of it."

Thousands? Please show me the adds where they are struggling to sell. What price did they pay for it and what area was it in?

"Some of these have been on for over a year. A lot of these adds are for multiple houses on developments and there are massive plots of land."

Developers usually advertise for many years, it obviously depends on location and price and the quality of the product.

"Try Chao Fah Road as well. There are hundreds of properties for sale at Land and house, Middle Road, Phuket Villa etc. etc., Massive complexes going in up at Talang as well. "

Very badly built, thrown together with sub standard fixtures and fittings, aimed mainly at the Thai market. Thalang is also a Thai village area and we can wait and see if the average foreigner thinks its for them.

"Hundreds of plots for sale and when you ring about one, you are always offered more choices as a lot of the adds are from agents and discounts are always offered."

I have been in this game for ten years and anyone who knows anything about searching for land, is, there is always another plot. When looking for the right plot, there is much due dilligance to do and most turn out to be far from perfect and after you have gone through all of the neccesary checks, your out on the road again looking for more.

I am out and about everyday in my job and deal with every Thai broker on this Island. I get 60 plots a week brought into my company by 1 broker alone and after I sift through the crap, I end up with less than 10 percent.

Since arriving in Phuket way back in the late 90's, I have seen land prices (1 area for example) in Rawai go from 300,000 baht per Rai to todays price (same land) 7 million baht.

Phuket is a very good investment and I dont think there are many places in the world you could have gains like this. THERE IS ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF LAND LEFT AVAILABLE IN GOOD AREAS AND I DONT CARE IF NOBODY BUYS IT, I DONT CARE ABOUT BEATING UP THE MARKET, ALL I CARE ABOUT IS THAt THE RIGHT INFORMATION IS GIVEN.

Please dont listen to arm chair real estate gurus, there are more of them than land.

With new zoning laws in place it isnt as easy as before.

(I have'nt promoted my business, nor have I got anything to gain from the post above. There are well over 100 brokers on this Island now, send a few emails away to them and see if I am right) Good Luck to all!

This post has been edited by Tornado: 2006-09-29 17:55:02

I stand by what I posted above. Prove me wrong on every point. I actually spent time on a post that is correct, I even pointed out the areas and current prices. I stand by for your area by area price range, building codes, zoning, servitudes (just a general list will do) and then we can play in the sand together

Bring cclub0 with you as well if you like, he can get the drinks.

Go on then tell us that if we want a house on Phuket, we can't find one.... Tosser

This thread is so bogus that another thread has been set up to discus this one.

I see toys being thrown out of the pram.

Again Mr Simpleton, we are not really talking about houses, we are talking about land and have been throughout this thread... please recheck our banter and try and get on the same page.

you wrote: This thread is so bogus that another thread has been set up to discus this one.

please place a link so we can all have a look! The only other thread I see relevant is what George posted regarding what some agents have said in the Phuket Post, which is generally what everyone else has said, but you and idiots like yourself, dont want to entertain that idea, because you always know more than the people who work at this full time.

Regarding houses for sale in Phuket being plentiful, yes many, lots and lots as there are in every city and country in the world. Land on the other hand (unless you want to live in Thalang, ride a bike and hang out with the local thai villagers ) is as I posted above.

Have a great day Stephanie!

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[/b]Tornado 2006-09-29 17:51:38 Post #45

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QUOTE(Steph1012 @ 2006-09-29 15:31:30)

Nice try Tornado. Keep talking it up and try not to get too steamed up about it as well, we all have opinions and this is mine.

I am a keen cyclist and clock up hundreds of KM every week on and off the Island. Get out of your office and car a bit more if you want to know whats going on here.

Just seen 350 rai being auctioned off, and here are four full pages of houses for sale.

http://phuketgazette.net/classifieds/phuke...f=2006929151115

Also try a search on Google, theres thousands of adds. Lot of land was bought up by speculators and they are struggling to shift any of it.

Some of these have been on for over a year. A lot of these adds are for multiple houses on developments and there are massive plots of land.

Try Chao Fah Road as well. There are hundreds of properties for sale at Land and house, Middle Road, Phuket Villa etc. etc., Massive complexes going in up at Talang as well.

Hundreds of plots for sale and when you ring about one, you are always offered more choices as a lot of the adds are from agents and discounts are always offered.

AND THE REPLY FROM TORNADO

Im not getting steamed up, Im suggesting you are looking at crap land in crap locations.

Who wants to live in these areas? That is the Thai market. Your initial response to this thread was regarding land being plentifull, this is not the case.

Houses are always for sale and always will be. Land on the other hand is very hard to get in the right areas.

Hundreds of plots for sale, but where? How much? Are the titles ok? due dilligence done? under the 80 meter height restriction? flying sor kor 1? national park? airport noise? zone? build height restrictions? servitude? water? electricity?

The west coast has 5 plots left on the beach and that is a pretty large coast.

The Panwa area: looks like loads of land until you get the paperwork and they are either tor bor 6 or sor kor 1, which is no good to a foreigner.

The Kathu area: try and find a 1 or 2 Rai plot without a major overhead powerline behind you.

The Layan area: Last year selling at 3-4 mil per Rai, now 7 mil and up and very hard to find.

The Surin area: try and find a nice sea view plot.

Kamala: millionaires row. 3 plots left on the whole road.

Mai Kao: 2 beachfront land plots and other than that, some jungle plots in horrible locations.

Rawai: find a 1 rai plot.

Nai Harn: rare as rocking horse shit.

Patong: two larger plots left under the 80 meter mark and no 1 rai plots.

Cherngtalay: plenty of low level land that needs to filled (cost about 600 k a Rai to fill)

Thalang: last year 500 k per rai, now 1 mil per Rai and selling to Bangkok Thais and a few foreigners.

Chalong: I can go throgh every road if you like.

East Coast: Ao Phor, not much sea view left and selling at 7 mil per Rai and upwards.

Yamoo: 25 mil per Rai if you buy in the nice area and other land in this area is land banked by Thais from Bangkok or anyone with money for that matter.

Koh Sirea, a dump and the most lawless area on the island and the land price is still 6 mil and up per rai.

Now lets go through your post:

Just seen 350 rai being auctioned off, and here are four full pages of houses for sale."

350 Rai isnt what the average foreigner wants and the houses I've already covered.

"Also try a search on Google, theres thousands of adds. Lot of land was bought up by speculators and they are struggling to shift any of it."

Thousands? Please show me the adds where they are struggling to sell. What price did they pay for it and what area was it in?

"Some of these have been on for over a year. A lot of these adds are for multiple houses on developments and there are massive plots of land."

Developers usually advertise for many years, it obviously depends on location and price and the quality of the product.

"Try Chao Fah Road as well. There are hundreds of properties for sale at Land and house, Middle Road, Phuket Villa etc. etc., Massive complexes going in up at Talang as well. "

Very badly built, thrown together with sub standard fixtures and fittings, aimed mainly at the Thai market. Thalang is also a Thai village area and we can wait and see if the average foreigner thinks its for them.

"Hundreds of plots for sale and when you ring about one, you are always offered more choices as a lot of the adds are from agents and discounts are always offered."

I have been in this game for ten years and anyone who knows anything about searching for land, is, there is always another plot. When looking for the right plot, there is much due dilligance to do and most turn out to be far from perfect and after you have gone through all of the neccesary checks, your out on the road again looking for more.

I am out and about everyday in my job and deal with every Thai broker on this Island. I get 60 plots a week brought into my company by 1 broker alone and after I sift through the crap, I end up with less than 10 percent.

Since arriving in Phuket way back in the late 90's, I have seen land prices (1 area for example) in Rawai go from 300,000 baht per Rai to todays price (same land) 7 million baht.

Phuket is a very good investment and I dont think there are many places in the world you could have gains like this. THERE IS ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF LAND LEFT AVAILABLE IN GOOD AREAS AND I DONT CARE IF NOBODY BUYS IT, I DONT CARE ABOUT BEATING UP THE MARKET, ALL I CARE ABOUT IS THAt THE RIGHT INFORMATION IS GIVEN.

Please dont listen to arm chair real estate gurus, there are more of them than land.

With new zoning laws in place it isnt as easy as before.

(I have'nt promoted my business, nor have I got anything to gain from the post above. There are well over 100 brokers on this Island now, send a few emails away to them and see if I am right) Good Luck to all!

This post has been edited by Tornado: 2006-09-29 17:55:02

I stand by what I posted above. Prove me wrong on every point. I actually spent time on a post that is correct, I even pointed out the areas and current prices. I stand by for your area by area price range, building codes, zoning, servitudes (just a general list will do) and then we can play in the sand together

Bring cclub0 with you as well if you like, he can get the drinks.

What a pathetic "boiling room".

And meanwhile so sweet. Especially Martin, who attacks with a strong stance :

"I strongly believe that a country’s domestic affairs should remain its own business and these should not come under critical opinion from an uninformed international community."

And then slowly, like a little boy caught smoking in the toilets, fearfull : " Negativity created by the recent land code policy investigations has certainly caused confusion and has influenced some buyers who will no longer invest in Thailand." bla bla bla bla bla

I'm going to throw up.

I mean, come on, a bit of decency please !

Fed up with the Phuket boys and the so called "hype". Keep your "villas-ressort-spa" at 20 millions THB on the "paradise island"... you are doomed. This island is nothing but a dump.

Doomed.

I have to!

I can imagine what the c stands for in your nick!

why are you so venomous in your attack against an Island that has been through so much over the last few years? Is it because your a jealous loser who cannot afford a nice home? or is it because your a prick?

Facts are facts shit head, the Island is still moving ahead with or without your blessing!

all the property we really need is 6' x 3' each; and i see plenty supply of that around.

very well put....

The "dump" looks great / beautiful from where Im standing. There are so many boats in the harbour today. Anyway I better go for a swim before breakfast what a dump

edit: the water is about 24ish degrees

You cant drink until 25, but you can ride a motor bike down the main street of town at 5 years old.

Yes unfortunately they are the worst I have ever dealt with. They will not even lend you a pen, nor help the Kmer people with their applications. When I went there about 6 years ago, I had 5 - 1 year non B's in my passport and they still gave me 3 months...

In a funny way the actual Thai consulate is affecting toursim of sorts as most people will never go back into the country to apply for a visa.

Maybe write to the tourism minister if there is a current one.

I wasnt meaning just real estate mate, I mean with all types of services or maybe even like http://www.phuketgazette.net/guide/... anyway it seems the mods have'nt thought it was'nt such a great idea due to lack of feed back, so thanks for your reply anyway Udon.

I actualy thought it might be a very usefull and maybe even profitable side line.

Many people ask about good contractors and or where to find a particular business.

It might be worth a new topic/thread.

Many of us get "ripped off" by bad contractors / service providers and some times we get lucky and get great service.

A Thaivisa telephone book that members can add to with there ranking (1 to 5) might be a great asset to the forum.

just a thought!

he might be a troll? not sure but it is a topic that is still a pain for many.

Samran makes a good point, but the rules were clear in the beginning, when you arrive at other countries.

I would have no problem with an employer reading my emails sent/recieved using a company account, but I do think that if they intend to do so, then it should be made clear when the account is created and given to you.

In reality.. even if it is not made clear, when using a company account always be aware that they are able to do this.. and therefore probably would.

totster

I agree tots..... I made it clear from the out set.

are you planning to join the caravan of the poor party.

no, just looking for temp accom until I build the house and "resort" (a few bungalows)... I can buy an old Thai wooden house and an attach a bathroom for about 100k, but I dont want to have to put in septic and other infrastructure for such a short amount of time. It look like I might have to go that way though.

The mother inlaw's house is a little to basic and not at all private, although I do stay there when Im in town so she feels happy. The land is across the road from her.

You may get Cambodian riel back when you close the account.

great for starting small fires or giving to your kids to play with.

thanks for the replies.

I met with a customs guy the other day and he told me that HE could let me bring in a caravan and charge me 20,000 baht. Heard it all before but might risk a few grand to see if ???

I also spoke to a fabricator for boat trailers and he is interested in setting up some form of production factory if I pay for the project and give him 50% of the profits. I think it would be a nice sideline business, but it all come down to time and motivation...... I have little of both for this type of business...

I will try a few more avenues and let you know the outcome.

cheers

I set up email accounts for my staff. I read all of them as I think it is good business sense. Your business is only as good as the staff you employ and you need to know all correspondance is done correctly and within the guidelines you have set for them.

I would say this normal K

I think you migt be right Terry.

i think no.1 on Tornado's list is the gym i go to, Patong Gym http://www.phuketgym-patong.com/

Its not fancy but it has everything you need. I think they advertise 1 month's membership as 1,500 but i'm sure you can bargain it down as longer term memberships are quite a lot cheaper.

I agree, good gym. I used to go early at about 7am before work and the cleaner was always vacuuming or cleaning and it put me off my work out. Its hard to bench 400 pounds when someone is vacuuming next to you..... thats my excuse anyway.

anytime after 9am would be ok.

Good question, in 5 years I never saw a mobile home or a caravan in the LOS.

I actually posted the same question a long while ago and got similiar answers.

I think there is a big market for caravans in Thailand. An untapped market!, but the roads will be a lot worse

Ok how about importing one from Aus. I mean you can pick up a cheap caravan with all the mod cons for under 150k baht. what do you think theimport taxes would be?? any ideas. how much to have one sent in a container/ on the boat.....

cheers for anyones imput!

None can swim that is a cert. I watched a Japanese man drowning last year, a surfer had to go to his aid as the beach guard was asleep. He was woken up and he said "not my job". My wife asked what his actual job was and he said, he had to make sure people were swimming between the flags.

I suppose "beach guard" means the same as "security guard" a great sleeper with no formal training and a waste of time and money.

Interesting tale Tornado: red flags all over the beaches today and not a "beach guard" in sight despite at least 50 people swimming in 'apparent calm conditions'. I was caught in a slight current , but hey - I can swim and I'm an Aussie and know what to do - others were not so calm.

Meanwhile, floating serenely at the back of the breakers - staring back onshore at the ridiculous "tsunami towers" - there was not a "beach guard" anywhere to be seen.... only a matter of time before the farce reaches the international press!!!

Not a good situation K, might be an idea to bring it to light in the Gazette (Q&A) and see what the local council comes back with. Especially this time of year as the weather is fining up, but the waves/rips are still around.

Tornado's swimming tips if caught in a rip, swim parallel to the shore, do not fight the current, let it take you out and then swim as described above.... tongue in cheek ofcourse, but also true.