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Interesting to see the guy on the platform merrily enjoying himself while a family man lies sliced in half nearby... Thainess?

Do you realise that in the minds of Buddhists, our time on earth is just a brief stopover on the way to paradise. I have been to a few Thai funerals and witnessed even the closest relatives happy that their loved one is now in paradise and that their suffering on this earth is over.

People should stop judging people by the standards of your own particular religion and culture and open your mind to other possibilities.

No, it's for semi auto shifting, up each time for one gear and down each time to down shift.. it's Tip-Tronic style, put it in that position and you have to up shift and down shift manually, it will over-ride you though if you fail to shift and shift up or down as an auto, but only after some time it realizes your not shifting it.

Fink that is what I said..........

Actually no it's not the same as you said transam.

You said "Dunno, but looks like manual gear shift as you don't have gears marked on the shifter run........."

Dunno isn't the same as what WarpSpeed said.

Fink thats a ma&pa and girls thought..............

Clearly you have little understanding of English. Dunno means you are not sure but venturing a guess.

Also a fink is not related to the act of thinking, nor to ageist or misogynistic slurs.

The cop should have gone for the double. Not just the crocs.

The law also says "Top: a collar shirt (either long or short-sleeved). Shirt must be tucked in trousers or skirt."

Not only has his shirt not got a collar, it's not tucked into his jeans.

No, it's for semi auto shifting, up each time for one gear and down each time to down shift.. it's Tip-Tronic style, put it in that position and you have to up shift and down shift manually, it will over-ride you though if you fail to shift and shift up or down as an auto, but only after some time it realizes your not shifting it.

Fink that is what I said..........

Actually no it's not the same as you said transam.

You said "Dunno, but looks like manual gear shift as you don't have gears marked on the shifter run........."

Dunno isn't the same as what WarpSpeed said.

In Vietnam they decided that wearing helmets would be compulsory so they enacted a new law.. it was a success.

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/road_traffic/countrywork/20_12_2007/en/

The main difference being that Vietnam is a communist country and people are conditioned to obey authority whereas Thailand's famous "mai pen rai" attitude prevails. Also, I suspect the police in Vietnam are rather more dilligent.

Even if they could get 100% of Thais wearing helmets, I doubt a high percentage would be wearing them correctly fastened or wearing a proper helmet. What I mean is, most helmets are pretty basic plastic shells and would offer little protection in the case of a head hitting something.

Yesterday, I saw two people on a bike wearing construction site helmets. OMG!

The sooner that civilians are allowed to carry arms the better what is needed is a Thai NRA, no more punch ups.

I hope you are joking. Does Thailand really need to become the messed up place that USA is?

Well it seems according to news received that Uber is under pressure in Europe to cease their operations and now India too.

Got to be something adrift somewhwer to pronpt these actions

The thing that is adrift and is prompting these actions is obvious. The government is missing out on the fees that it rips off licenced drivers. Do you really think that paying the government for a piece of paper automatically makes them a better and safer driver? If you ever took a taxi in Melbourne, Sydney or anywhere in Thailand then you'd see my point. Paying money is what the government wants. Uber drivers own their cars and the cars are new so they are less likely to drive in a crazy manner like many licenced taxi drivers do.

In reality there is a huge business opportunity here for local Thais. At the weekend I purchased some collapsible lightweight loungers from a guy selling them on the main highway near Talang. Tourists do not want to buy, so renting such chairs and umbrellas close to the beach which tourists then take to the beach themselves would seem a good business opportunity to me.

Exactly correct. And to protect himself from theft, he could "sell" them to tourists for their replacement value and "buy" them back at a reduced value, the difference being the rental. That method would save him stuffing around with rental forms, collecting ID and suffering losses from theft or damage.

how long before they can revoke citizenship?

That'd get a few of our recent imports worried.

"...refuse visas to NON-citizens..." Sheesh, either you're trying to stir the pot or can't understand English or you are just plain stupid!

OMG. I often wonder how some people manage to get through a whole week.

The issue is realy that while us a grey area then realky there is not going to be any guarantees if being abke to stay. I believe that some of the laws need to be changed to improve and stimulate business and make it easier for companies to employ foreigners. However with the laws are in place as they are people should at least comply. Grind houses etc are never going to comply

Is this some form of new coded language you are using?

In my case, I already have a retirement visa due to my property and my pensions.

Maybe I'm a workaholic, but I don't feel old enough to sit around at a stone table all day long and wait for my lady to come back home from work.

Do I understand correctly that a Digital Nomad is someone who does not need a working permit or a business visa ?

No your not understanding it correctly, there are very few exceptions to the WP requirements in Thailand, if your working in Thailand, ie physically present in the country and working you need a WP, the question of legality is not up for debate, the only question is will you get caught ? If you keep your mouth shut about what your doing shouldn't be an issue

Then why were all of the people that were arrested at PunSpace released without charge when they were working in a co-working space on Tourist and Education visas. They got caught! They also were released without charge.

I fail to understand why, given this, you declare the issue to be black and white when it clearly and demonstrably IS debatable.

why they were not charged ?....could we suggest the mai pen rai attitude in Thailand, but this doesn't make it legal either, just means the BIB as with a lot of things are not doing their job properly

The question is not up for debate, the law is very specific, and it says one requires a work permit to work in Thailand, there is no debate in that statement, it is black and white

If the law was not up for debate, there would be no need for court cases. The laws of every country are debated every day in millions of court cases. Laws are subject to interpretation based upon, amongst other things, what the intent of the law was when it was passed rather than merely the letter of the law.

If laws were not up for debate, barristers and in many cases, solicitors, would be out of work. Massive unemployment for law graduates.

Take off your blinkers and understand that laws are open to interpretation and debate. And more importantly, that the current laws and interpretations of those laws are not always correct.

Stop being so black & white about the law. Hell, it's not even your law so I don't know why you are trying to beat everyone up with it.

The first time in my life I heard about digital Nomads was about a month ago when the thread appeared on TVF.

From what I understood from that thread is that digital nomads are mainly young people that have an idea of how to use a computer and try to convince themselves that they have a job.

The don't offer any benefits to anybody, no taxes paid no social security just instead of trying to find a proper job they are pissing around the globe pretending they offer something to society.

From what I understood also they are earning a pittance of money.

I would call them lazy bums and I would advise them to go and get a job.

As a digital nomad that makes online games, Once a game is made it runs online with virtually no more time needed on it maybe 1-2 weeks a year to add some new content to the game. It is easy to make 6 figures or more a year from this type of work and travel the globe, Maybe many of us limit our taxes but we provide much more then the average worker. Not only do we spend the same amount if not more then most people that work in the country we stay in but every worker gets a lot of benefits from the country it is working in, medical etc where as digital nomads pay it all themselves. Where as the country a worker resides in has to cover them with certain benefits at a cost to that country, in the case of a digital nomad the country gets a good amount of money spent by the nomad with NO cost/risk to the country at all!!

And this is all well and good, but please don't start bleating on you want the thai government to give you special privileges or visa's

So what Soutpeel is saying is that once a law is written, it should and can, never be changed.

Thank you for that almost biblical viewpoint.

The main issue is that the current Alien Employment Act takes a very narrow view of what work is. It was drafted into law in 2008 with no acknowledgement of the rapidly changing international nature of internet commerce and focuses on the traditional view of employment. People doing physical or intellectual work for a company. eg, building roads, working in factories, being a teacher, selling things face to face, managing a company, and so on. It barely touches on the entirely legitimate structure of a sole trader business.

Since that time there has been a lot of change and I don't think it is unreasonable for people to ask for a review of such an important area. To put people down and cast aspersions or their character merely for expressing the need for a review is typical of what tyrannical Luddites and later, the Nazi's, did.

Current day Thai bureaucrats themselves are reported as saying that being a self-employed person who works only on the internet and gets paid outside of Thailand is a grey area and possibly not breaking any Thai law. Quite a lot more moderate than the likes of Soutpeel and others of his ilk who see the world only in black or white and will fight for the blackness regardless of a dearth of knowledge or logic on their part.

Rather than fighting for a rigid adherence for the status quo, perhaps if the naysayers would open their minds and discuss the issues rather than launching personal attacks and saying it can't be done because it hasn't been done before.

Real Digital Nomads will not have a problem, visa abusers that claim they are a Nomad are very different.

I read this as 'I'm losing the debate, I'll latch on to the fact jspill doesn't turn up to his Thai classes and doesn't leave Thailand much'.

Nomads have already left their country to generate passive income in Thailand, that's nomadic. Maybe I'll do 15 years here then try Vietnam. I've done a couple weeks here and there in Laos, Cambo, Phils, and moved around between BKK, Udon and Hua Hin. If that's not nomadic enough for you draw me up a travel itinerary and I'll do my best to tour around a bit more.

WOW a real jet setting I must say, what your describing is a gap year students do before they get their first real job

And there is Soutpeel's ignorance and arrogance showing again.

He does not understand what IT jobs are and cannot accept that a real job can in fact be done online and does not need to be done at a particular location. Just because online jobs are different from his so-called real jobs, it mustn't be a job at all can it Soutpeel. You see folks, real jobs are ones which you go to a particular location and do what your boss tells you to do. Anything different cannot possibly be a real job.

Some advice for you Soutpeel. Just because something exisits beyond your sphere of personal experience or understanding, that does not mean it does not exist at all. I'm sure that outside of TV you might come across as a worldly person with some life experience and a modicum of intelligence. I just wonder why you choose to come online and sprout on about a topic you have little to zero knowledge on and pretend to be an expert about it. That is a really dumb thing to do. I wonder what drives you. Jealousy, spite, the need to be seen as an expert? Whatever it is, it's not working for you. You are just coming across as an ignorant bigot.

I don't wish for a date sir. I want to start the "mrtoad and Soutpeel's Ultimate Digital Nomad Guide for Thailand" project.

What do you think? Should we start with the "ALBC" page?

If you are going to continue to use acronyms such as ALBC, you should at least have the intelligence to spell it out in full in the first instance that you use it. That is the universally accepted English writing convention. A number of posters have asked for a definition and so far all I have seen is what someone thinks it what be.

They are likely out source contract workers. Not direcf employees

"...most likely..."

MrToad is the same as many of the anti-nomaders on TV. Working from an base of ignorance and disbelief simply because they are cloistered from what is actually happening in business today. So sorry Mr Toad that can't even see that his arguments are based on supposition. If you knew things you would not have to guess and say most likely. that's an opinion and you are very very wrong.

Most Likely???? Do you ACTUALLY know anything or just enjoy bagging people just because you don't like the way they live?

The first time in my life I heard about digital Nomads was about a month ago when the thread appeared on TVF.

From what I understood from that thread is that digital nomads are mainly young people that have an idea of how to use a computer and try to convince themselves that they have a job.

The don't offer any benefits to anybody, no taxes paid no social security just instead of trying to find a proper job they are pissing around the globe pretending they offer something to society.

From what I understood also they are earning a pittance of money.

I would call them lazy bums and I would advise them to go and get a job.

No. You have it all wrong, I'm afraid. Many of these youngsters are highly skilled, pay taxes and earn good money.

Good luck to them, I say.

No he doesn't have it all wrong there are people who claim to to digital nomads living in who are exactly as Costa's describes

Thanks for clearing that up Soutpeel. So from what you have written, just because SOME people might not fit your definition of digital nomad, then it's quite ok to say that they are all bad, useless, scum.

It's also nice to know that Costas has become the authority source for knowledge on all digital nomads from a month ago when he first heard the term. I am in awe.

Both of your opinions are as ignorantly stupid as the other.

The first time in my life I heard about digital Nomads was about a month ago when the thread appeared on TVF.

From what I understood from that thread is that digital nomads are mainly young people that have an idea of how to use a computer and try to convince themselves that they have a job.

The don't offer any benefits to anybody, no taxes paid no social security just instead of trying to find a proper job they are pissing around the globe pretending they offer something to society.

From what I understood also they are earning a pittance of money.

I would call them lazy bums and I would advise them to go and get a job.

What an ignorant comment from an aged person coming from a country which is an economic basket case and who thinks IT is a pronoun for a thing. To say that your attitudes and opinions are uninformed and incredibly annoying and insulting is quite an understatement.

Let me critically review your verbal diarrhoea.

"...and try to convince themselves that they have a job." Shows that you have a very limited ability to accept that the world has changed and you are unable to embrace the fact that the traditional job prevalent during your peasant past is not the only type of job there is in the world today.

"They don't offer any benefits to anybody ...." Oh come on Costas, if they offered no benefits to anybody then why do people pay them money for their services? And quite a lot more than you ever earned as well. Or is your mind set on the benefits you can get from your government pension?

" no taxes paid no social security" If Costas actually knew anything he would find that most digital nomads pay taxes in the form of company taxes on their profits. I find this comment amusing coming from a person from Greece, a country that has a massive cash economy and tax avoidance culture. As for social security, there's that peasant pension handout mentality again.

"...pissing around the globe pretending they offer something to society." It's people like digital nomads who do the coding for web sites such as TV, and the eCommerce sites that so many people use - have you ever heard of eCommerce Costas? If they offer nothing why do you think they get paid Costas? Let me tell you because clearly you can't figure it out. They get paid because they offer something that people value. As for the global issue, I think perhaps you are pissed off that they can work anywhere in the world with an internet connection but you can only look after goats on your local rocky outcrop. Poor sad Costas.

"...From what I understood also they are earning a pittance of money..." Your ignorance is showing Costas - and how many digital nomads do you personally know to have formed this opinion? More than zero? Compared to what you did for a living, they are doing very well indeed financially.

"...I would call them lazy bums and I would advise them to go and get a job...." First of all you old tool, they do have jobs. You seem incapable of understanding that the world has changed and they are doing jobs that never existed when you were young enough to work. Your intolerance of change is both laughable and at the same time, sad. As for them being lazy, what is your evidence of that? Most of them work long hours doing work that you would be incapable of doing and clearly you have zero understanding about. It is complex work with intricacies and technical difficulty that I'm confident that you've never experienced.

So Costas, get back on your donkey and blow the candles out when you leave the room.

Also, Please show me one person that actually came to Thailand to study.

99.9% would have used it only as a 2nd option to prolong their stay with no intention to study.

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In my school I can show you 99.9% of students do actually come to learn. Each for their own reason but they attend classes and genuinely want to learn. If you know 99.9% of people on ED who do not go to classes then you are hanging around with the wrong crowd and makes me wonder about your motivations as well.

Thai students living and studying in Australia are allowed to work

no ifs no buts no work permit

Australia has agreements with Thailand however it appears to be a one way street

That is very true. Any student from any country who is granted an Australian study visa can work anywhere for up to 20 hours per week. No questions asked, no need to apply for a work permit for a specific job and have to get a new permit if you change jobs.

The Thai system is very onerous. I wonder why our Australian Foreign Minister cannot be bothered to negotiate reciprocal rights for Australians in Thailand?

Any idea why these forms asking about the applicant's religion and that of his/her mother and father? I haven't previously encounter any government interest in my deeply held belief in Pastafarianism.

I don't know where you are from but in many countries this is a standard question even though it has no connection with whatever the form is about. For example, in Australia they ask this on many forms - irrelevant as it is.

Sondhi Limtrakul, owner of the Manager media group, has publicly come out with a conspiracy theory on his ASTV channel in which he suggests that the investigation was unsound from the start and he implies that a mafia family in KT has links with the NCPO. I don't know if this is far fetched or not but what is interesting is the balls of Sondhi in publicising his theory. He narrowly survived one assassination attempt and the police investigation got nowhere, despite several police claims they were about to grab the mastermind. Perhaps he has become over sensitive about police investigations into murders and attempted murders.

You can find this on YouTube and I listened to it this morning. My jaw dropped. He is not only accusing the Koh Tao mafia, but claiming they are supported by influential persons in Bangkok. There will certainly be defamation suits filed against him, notwithstanding the fact that most Thais recognize that his statements were factual. Conjecture: might his defense to the defamation suits be an excuse to re investigate the murders? Wild conjecture: he already has conclusive proof on those involved and their links to Bangkok, and his statements were deliberately designed to instigate his being sued as the way he can attack the police and their influential friends without breaching Prayut's rules any more than he did in the program.

A link to that YouTube video would have been nice.