BOBBYTIN

hold your left hand straight out and slowly raise the middle finger,this is universal for,i will not be held to ransom.

last week a bar in pattaya was raided,the manger was arrested for having beer coolers and other promotional stuff in the toilets,what is that all about,what can you show in a bar,where can i find out the law, if this is old stuff i apologize, i am new in town.are they just picking on that one bar,i dont think so,they,dont know who they are,were active in krabi last week .can anyone cast a light on this.the story is in pattaya news,insomnia bar.thank you

saw the bar in pattaya the insomnia been raided again,for non payment no doubt, this time for beer coolers,my question is what can you show inside a bar,after all punters are there because it is a bar,they wont be shocked to see beer advertised,sure as polar bears do it in the snow, where we are they will be onto that one, and getting the tea money,what is it exactly,if this is old thread i am sorry,am new to t.v thanks

put all the info you want up, and yes there will be the ones who call me a scare monger,but,2 days ago,17 people arrived in vans and cars and went into bird song,in khao lak,a thai bar showing footy on astra,they were told it was illegal and taken to the tune of 50000, baht so i would not be shouting too loud if you are showing astra,when you get done i will say told you so.they came with cameras and videos blazing.

Huh? You don't think Astrosport and/or Supersport won't have English commentary?

Instead of pee I think you've been stoking the fire with the wacky tobaccy.

i said ubc but supersport wont be available too ,if you want to be sarcastic fine but there you have it,and the bar will have to pay 10 grand for licence to show footy or risk 50000b fine, i dont touch the wacky backy thanks,just trying to help

Official e-mail from True confirming world cup has English commentary through the HD promo they are offering.

Spoke to another person and they also confirmed can change to English....

Dear Sir.

Promotion HD 1 Point

INSTALLATION FEE & CONNECTION FEE = 0 Baht

EQUIPMENT DEPOSIT (็็HD) = 4,000 Baht

Monthly Fee (Gold) = 1,412.97 Baht

Monthly Rental Fee = 282.48 Baht

HD service fee 290 Baht per Month (Free HD service fee Promotion untill 31/7/2010)

*** Broadcasted World Cup 2010 HD in Thai commentary can be converted into English

Tel.08*********

The lady's name is Nutjaree and I have her e-mail at TRUE corp and her phone number should True go back on their word. (Installation is 4000bht as I don't have UBC now)

Now this sounds more interesting.

Could you pm her email and phone number please?

So to get the English commentary on UBC so have to pay for HD? Heard it's 2000bht + 290 a mth if already a gold / platinum customer.... Some have posted elsewhere that TRUE is HD but not in English!

I thank your information on price is correct but the HD sport channel that UBC has is the only channel with English. UBC is advertising this.

sumbodys not lisnin, no english on u b c

That's cool Chaz! Will you also be showing the 1:30am kick offs?

know supersport is no more from 31st, has anyone come up with an alternative yet?

None that are legal and that can be discussed on TV. UBC has the contract to broadcast the WC 2010 in English for Thailand. The question is what bars are going to lay out another 4000 baht deposit and 500 baht extra per month for two extra channels just to show a sporting advent that mostly will be after midnight local time . Plus with the drastic decrease of the tourist section the revenew has droped off drasticaly. So ask the bar owners that have UBC (red dish) what they are going to do.

thas wrong owd cocker,thi is no english commentary,tha can beleev me or not up ta thee,but thad berrer scratch up on thee thai old lad,an if tha gus an gets hd from true thas as daft as a brush,cos its same team, R S who are in charge oft raights ter show footy,if tha dunt believe us al bet thee a quid am rait,ubc dunt ev t contract,ther showinn same as telly,nar then, ars tha like them fer apples,if tha bin an got ubc thas bin dun

The only way your going to watch it in Thailand with English broadcast is to find a bar that has UBC with HD. Other than that it will be in Thai only.

sorry to pee on your bonfire but there is no,absolutely no english commentary on u b c,sure.

Has anyone heard that the copyright holder, "RS", for Thailand want 10,000bht per bar as a license to show the world cup in their venue?

Maybe BS, but my mate has read this rumour on various website, yet there is no information as to where to obtain the license.

Has anyone else heard this? If so do you think it'll be enforced?

heard the same, here is a story from r s http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/359...rld-cup-mission

you can get the license from them.they are indeed charging 10000b our local true move have been asked for a list of businesses

with true move, by r s,why would they want that info

This being Thailand I don't hold the guarentee to much, Id like it in english but I can put up with out it as long as there are no adverts in the games like on thai TV.

to a fellow yorkshire man,heard of plans to do pubs bars etc without license,just got scammed for the music so no surprises there,anyway here is a link from bkk post and R S who have the rights for w c.to any bar owners it maybe a heads up,http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/35942/rs-on-target-with-world-cup-mission good luck and enjoy the w c

This being Thailand I don't hold the guarentee to much, Id like it in english but I can put up with out it as long as there are no adverts in the games like on thai TV.

to a fellow yorkshire man,heard of plans to do pubs bars etc without license,just got scammed for the music so no surprises there,anyway here is a link from bkk post and R S who have the rights for w c.to any bar owners it maybe a heads up,http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/sports/35942/rs-on-target-with-world-cup-mission good luck and enjoy the w c

Apparently True will show the WC, but only on the HD channel, and only selected games.

You can only receive the HD channel if you have their HD receiver and subscription (extra 525 Baht/month).

Their representative was adamant that this would only available to home viewers, and that businesses (pubs etc) will not be able to get this as it breaches their rights agreements. Don't ask me how they will check it though, AFAIK most of the bars only pay for home viewing packages anyway!

Customers without the HD system will only get the games on the Thai channels (3 and 7) with only Thai commentary...Nothing to do with Truevisions, but the Thai channels getting their feed cheaper without English commentary.

there is always a scam,recently gone fined playing music,same group said they were coming round to bars showing football,thats what they said.

 music police arent in chiang mai at the moment but take the advice above of kevinhunt and rama and  if any problems contact rkt directly  02-861-1655. they claim these are rogue employess.  bobbytin had a problem down south but replied to this topic after doing a search on tv. 

ongoing with enquiries but here is an update,these guys have no right to enter your premises,they say they are copyright police,not true,look at the website,R K T publishing, they sell a license to play music controlled by their publishing company,thats it,when we asked there director,the next day by the way,he said they had no right to take money,asked would they be dismissed,would we get our money back he said he would deal with it,yeah right,they come with 9 of them one claims to be the police,when like me you get to the police station,he,the policeman is nowhere to be seen,two girls appear,these are the sales girls,these are no more than that,just sales girls the other seven men will not appear also, the next day my lawyer phoned for info about r k t license,was told actually its mostly for karaoke, when he asked how they can take 20000 from someone with no copy cds,no thai music she hung up,in if they come,refuse entry.if they come in,they really dont want you to video,i got my video out no batteries,asked customer to vid and he said we were making things worse,but 3 of them were already leaving,video them,ask for more id,ring the tourist police, they have probably been to the local police and said they have had reports that you are playing their music,they actually are scamming the locals too,ours is quite pissed, and remember if you are playing 50s music there is no copyright,they have to have proof you are playing their music so if a thai asks you to play his favorite song,dont. Do not,ideally, play thai music,they really are good at what they do,i knew i was been scammed but there was just that 1% doubt,dont go to the police station,get the police to ask questions,I stream my music,kind of like radio you can choose the songs,you can not download music or copy it only play,they work as sales people for r k t publishing but present themselves as copyright police,they are not,i know hindsight is a great thing but i did get stung,finally,i found out 1 week ago they went to rai lai beach krabi,the locals called there bluff,they were run off though 2 places bought there worthless license,i was not the last one im sure,you can get a license from 1stop music,but when you go to their website you are warned not to go on as they have malware,anyone know the number,would be grateful.good luck.ask who gave permission locally to come,ie chief of police,ring that person,ask what reason they gave to come,if they told him its for playing their music,then that is all they can get you on,once you are in the police station,they play the wife will go to jail card,call it.they came in 2 white honda jazz and two pick ups,the jazz have chiang mai plates,good luck

Where in the South are you?

are you on this planet?..might be more adept

im sure there is a meaning to your comment why not clarify,obviosly i am missing something

What a IDIOT , typical english houligan , past colonial behaving, arrogance and stupidity put him in thai jail for a long time ,then send him back to that his bankrup country .

typical hooligan,germany,sweden france italy,they all have them,hooligans, that is,you cannot say british in that tone of voice,i on the other hand i can,i am from yorkshire the capital of Great Britistan and can say that this soft southern bed wetting shandy drinker is in fact a hooligan,moron,cretin d..kh..d,embarrassment,and should go to jail,one with no ladyboys,dont want him to enjoy his stay,then ship him direct to britistan

Where in the South are you?

nr phuket

helloooo....

sorry i was not clear enough,two days ago 9 men arrived at our guesthouse,we were having a party as some local people were leaving,on entering our restaurant they demanded to see my wife,they said they were here to collect copyright fees,i was playing music via the internet,they said they were allowed by law to enter and take away our computers.i add that we are in the south of thailand,no curfew here.i asked for id from all of them,the one who was doing the talking produced an id from R K T publishing,one of the others said he was police and flashed a card,the other 7 men we were told did not have to show us,i tried to take video but they said we could not,that it would only make things worse,they then unplugged our computer and took my wife and daughter to the police station,36km away.after lots of talking they made us buy a 5000b license from there company,and we had to pay 15000b ,no receipt,we said we would go to court but they convinced my wife she could go to jail, have since been trying to find out more about this company,it seems if they catch you playing one of their registered artists they can penalize you,their artists are thai,we only play farang music,i have been trying to find out exactly which license i need as we want to do everything by the book,but is almost impossible,thank you for your interest

Okay, that's better. If you are playing music in public venue, especially of the kareoke-type, you are required to have a license. All of the legal kareoke places and many restaurants are now displaying them prominently. While the police or licensing authority are allowed to enter your premises with the purpose of checking your license, it does seem that your visitors were doing a bit more than that.

Its a pity that you dont have video surveillance - maybe have some fake cameras installed at least, so that if it were to happen again then they may be a bit better behaved. I am not sure of the specific license terms involved here, so it would be a good idea for you to approach the Commerce department and ask them for details. Hopefully some other members may have more detailed information for you as well.

Cheers

helloooo....

There is a state of emergency and and a curfew in effect ! I dont think the real police would be running around town checking music licenses at this time!!!

Under emergency regulations, I would think that the army has the right to enter any place in order to maintain security, but other than that police require a warrant in order to enter your home. If you are talking about an entertainment place, they may have the right to enter to check permits etc at any time, but you dont give enough information for us to judge the full story.

How about you write your post again in clear English with all the details.

sorry i was not clear enough,two days ago 9 men arrived at our guesthouse,we were having a party as some local people were leaving,on entering our restaurant they demanded to see my wife,they said they were here to collect copyright fees,i was playing music via the internet,they said they were allowed by law to enter and take away our computers.i add that we are in the south of thailand,no curfew here.i asked for id from all of them,the one who was doing the talking produced an id from R K T publishing,one of the others said he was police and flashed a card,the other 7 men we were told did not have to show us,i tried to take video but they said we could not,that it would only make things worse,they then unplugged our computer and took my wife and daughter to the police station,36km away.after lots of talking they made us buy a 5000b license from there company,and we had to pay 15000b ,no receipt,we said we would go to court but they convinced my wife she could go to jail, have since been trying to find out more about this company,it seems if they catch you playing one of their registered artists they can penalize you,their artists are thai,we only play farang music,i have been trying to find out exactly which license i need as we want to do everything by the book,but is almost impossible,thank you for your interest

just been hit bye the so called music police,after 9pm a gang of9 men came the usual story,frightened wife,crying kid,police,pay,my question if anyone can help is what is the law on entering your business at night team handed,lawyers here seem to be guessing,who are these music police,the company they say has the right to do this,the name is rkt publishing,i would be grateful if anyeone can shed some light on this

The music police scam were out again last night. I've talked to a local CM lawyer and several bars, guest houses that have been visited. 1) they can only be music police if they have a representative of the Thai Music Association with them. If they don't, it's a COMPLETE scam. Don't let them near your computer, don't let them take it, don't agree to go to the police station with them. DON"T LET THEM PUT A THUMB DRIVE IN YOUR COMPUTER - they'll put the music on your computer! (yes, it's happened!) Take their pictures with your phone, ask them to unzip their jackets, hiding their name and badge so that you can get that on your camera also. They'll leave. 2) If they do have a 'representative' of the THai Music Association with them, they can ONLY ask about the Thai musicians who belong to the Thai Music Association. THEY MUST produce a list of the artists and songs covered. If they don't have, see #1 - tell them to leave adn start taking pictures. If you do have Thai music covered by the Thai Music Association, they DO NOT have any right to take your computer, or to take you to the police station. Tell them you'll pay the fine tomorrow at the main police station with your lawyer - they'll probably leave. The Police that are running the current scam are out of a small sub-station and don't want it known by other police what they're doing. 3) If they bring up international music - International music is not covered by the Thai Music Association - they have no right to enforcement. Again, only music covered by the Thai Music Association is covered. Whenever they get resistance, they leave immediately.

last night in front of 20 or so customers i got a visit from what can only be described as a gang,nine men just walked in demanding to see my wife,they go by the name of rkt publishing,i have read already all messages beforehand so i felt prepared,i asked for id,one the arrogant one,the mouthpiece showed me one and then i asked for the others id,they pushed forward 1 who produced a police badge,held firmly in his grip,they proceeded to check our computer,i dont have discs i dont have downloaded music,i stream from spotify,they basically emptied our restaurant,then i started to video at which point they became very agressive tourist friend of mine started to take photos the cop and mouthpiece made him clear them under threat of arrest,then he asked if there was porn on computer,no he said he wanted to check,i asked for a warrent he said my bar is open so none needed,they eventually terrified my wife so much she was hysterical,they took her and my 4 year old daughter to the police station 35km away,there they demanded60000b,we did not have that cash,they said the bar was busy,but it was a leaving party,a one off,where can i find out for sure 100% where to get the correct license,in the end 25000,they the gang were all smiles out side,the policeman,was nowhere to be seen at the station,can anyone give me any concrete help as i dont want to let this drop. i have asked the police,igot no help there,i saw a letter about this company saying they are only responsible for 64 artists,where is this info from,he commented also that another team were coming for the t v during world cup,what is the law,asked two lawyers two answers,where can i get these licenses from,one last thing 1stop musics website,go to that and get a warning that they are a dodgy site,please someone help