electau

Look at the range of photo ID documents currently available.

Passport

Drivers licence

IDP (International Drivers Permit)

Goverment Employee ID card.

And there may be more.

What photo ID cards are accepted by Thai authorities?

Yes there is a need for a card for foreigners in Thailand that can be used for ID purposes.

You should not have to carry your passport with you at all times, your passport and visa information is on the immigration database. Thais are not required to carry their passport at all times when in for example Australia or NZ.So why in Thailand. The problem is that immigration law and legislation has never kept up with modern technology.

foreigners are not required to carry their passports in Thailand

The rules say everyone must carry ID documents

Thais must carry their ID cards

Foreigners must carry some form of ID, so the rules are more relaxed for foreigners already.

The easiest card for everyone to use is ........ Thai driving licence.

Not everyone can obtain a Thai drivers licence

They are refering to a photo ID. A current foreign eg Australian drivers licence could be acceptable for ID purposes. I have used the same document in Thailand on a couple of occasions and had no problems. My wife never carries her ID card with her she only carries it if she needs to use it or travelling between provinces.

Yes there is a need for a card for foreigners in Thailand that can be used for ID purposes.

You should not have to carry your passport with you at all times, your passport and visa information is on the immigration database. Thais are not required to carry their passport at all times when in for example Australia or NZ.So why in Thailand. The problem is that immigration law and legislation has never kept up with modern technology.

Honestly who cares if a Thai lies to save face or just lies. Who doesn't lie sometime? Respect is all most Thais have, so for them to save face is a big deal, not like they can go home and swim in there endless plies of money and say forget my friends and family who needs them.

Different culture and different rules, like the other man said in his other thread "you are just a guest in thailand" as am I.

Just respect it. The food. The women. The culture.

Or just go to the Philippines with all the complaining.

Yes one should not lie ( this is not refering to the white lie in the west).

You do not gain respect by telling a lies. Honesty will gain respect.

Money does not come into it, you cannot buy respect, neither does social status.

We are reponsible as individuals from western cultures for what we say and do in our actions as they may effect others, one could call it "duty of care" We are responsible by law and our personal actions not by custom.

Thais seem to believe every thing that is said to them they do not question the validity of statements. They would rather believe hersay than the truth.

Thais believe in the community first which of course has its advantages and disadvantages while in the West the individual comes first.

I only tell people on a need to know basis only and anything I hear I keep to myself and do not repeat to others.

Your quote should consist of the following.

1 Cost to dig and backfill trench.

2 Cable cost.

3 Conduit if not direct buried.

4 Cost of loadcentre (main switchboard)

5 Cost of Main Switch in this case an MCB standard frame.

Labour costs to install consumers mains and switchboard, connect and test.

PEA/MEA costs to connect and supply metering would be extra.

You will need to have a Max demand calculation so that the consumers mains size can be calculated first.

You should also know the labour rate costs per hour.

When quoting or estimating they must be to a common job specification otherwise you can not compare prices.

Normally the contractor who quote the lowest price will get the job.

If you meet the criteria for the visa you should be able to obtain one from the consulate in Perth.

Why do you not e-mail or telephone them first.

You will require a visitors visa to enter Australia, an ETA 976 is available on line http://www.immi.gov.au/e_visa/eta.htm to UK passport holders.

Even if the westerner was able to obtain citizenship he would have to have a long residency requirement in years, plus high level connections, social status etc.

And then he would not have the ancestry requirement.

When we make a mistake we will offer an apology, Thais never seem to do this and will not take individual resonsibility for their actions.

Rather broad and general. Do you interact closely with many Thais....?

Yes, in Australia and I have had lies told about me and statements that were slanderous just because they did not think what they were saying and listened to gossip and rumor. I knew the facts were false and was prepared to prove it legally. The problem was that my wife believed them because they came from a Thai.

The biggest problem Westerners have is the difference in culture.

Thailand is a high context culture, the US, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ for example are low context cultures.

An interesting article on the differences in culture between countries can be found here.

http://www.beyondintractability.org/essay/face/

Thais avoid coflict where we in the West encourage conflict, debate and discussion.

Thais seem never to be able to think that there are different ways to solve problems

One can never get a direct answer to a direct question. a "yes" or a "no".

A Thai will lie ( in the opinion of a Western person) to avoid conflict and this "loss of face" that may occur if they tell the truth.

When we make a mistake we will offer an apology, Thais never seem to do this and will not take individual resonsibility for their actions.

Look at it this way .

Passport is lost and the flight out of Australia which she is confirmed on departs from Cairns in 48 hours. Do you really think that she will get emergency travel documents from the Embassy in the ACT by the time she has to depart?

First stop would be DIAC and obtain their advice. And in Cairns one cannot pick and choose ones flights.

One question Electau,

Was her sister or any other family member at the airport??

Yes, her sister was with her at the time.

So that would discount any problems with the sister or issues of destitution?

She would have had an airline ticket. Remember DIAC would have all her passport information and visa number on their database so it would be no real problem for them to arrange a temporary one way document for travel that would meet international requirements.

Remember she is departing Australia not arriving.

I think you are correct there, this is most probably what actually occured. Time was against her, if she had more time she could have been able to get documentation from the Royal Thai embassy in the ACT.

One question Electau,

Was her sister or any other family member at the airport??

Yes, her sister was with her at the time.

Several years ago a Thai who was visiting her sister in Australia lost her passport and her visa had almost run out. She was personally escorted through Immigration at the Cairns airport by an Immigration officer. I knew the immigration officer and I was at the airport seeing someone off to Thailand. DIAC would have arranged the required documentation for immigration so she could board her flight .

She had to stay in transit at KL until her flight to Bangkok the next day. Malaysian immigration would not allow entry.

　

Sounds more like a deportation, If she had the necessary papers why the need for an escort? Where was the sister and family? Sorry mate but it sounds like she was under detention.

You state that you were seeing someone off....I take it you didnt know this girl personally?

You also state that DIAC would have arranged...so you dont know for sure then? DIAC would arrange the papers for a deported person

If a person from another country loses their passport in Oz, the first port of call is their own embassy who will arrange for a new passport or assist with travel docs so the person can leave Oz without breaching their visas. If I lost my passport in Thailand I would go to the Oz Embassy, wouldnt you??

I can't be a deportation if if she has a current visa, regardless of the passport.

Maybe the girl didn't have enough funds to obtain a new passport or had to be

back to Thailand by a certain date.

I would be guessing that DIAC went with her to make sure she got approval

by the airline to fly and to make sure she got through Customs and DIAC

without a hitch whilst not having a passport.

Regards

Will

I think you are correct there, this is most probably what actually occured. Time was against her, if she had more time she could have been able to get documentation from the Royal Thai embassy in the ACT.

At the time we actually spoke to them at check-in and he stated himself that she had lost her passport. She had a visitors visa 676 /3month stay so she did not have time to obtain another passport before she was due to leave Australia. Remember she was in Cairns not in Sydney or the ACT.

Sorry mate, still sounds like a forced departure to me...

If she had legit travel documents, she would not need an escort to take her through immigration unless they were making sure that she left the country.

Emergency travel documents can be arranged quite quickly by her Embassy even if she was in Cairns.

As I said, DIAC will arrange travel docs for deportation purposes such as when a person is caught staying illegally or if a court orders deportation. They do not arrange travel docs for visitors who have merely lost their passports.

This occured 10 years ago and no she was not being deported she may have been issued with a document of identity. The immigration officer was an office employee of the Cairns office. You are welcome to your opinions but remember that is all they are. I know the particular officer in question.

So no more on the subject from you if you please.

Use approved connectors and enclose in an approved junction box. If exposed to the weather use an IP56 rated enclosure.

Several years ago a Thai who was visiting her sister in Australia lost her passport and her visa had almost run out. She was personally escorted through Immigration at the Cairns airport by an Immigration officer. I knew the immigration officer and I was at the airport seeing someone off to Thailand. DIAC would have arranged the required documentation for immigration so she could board her flight .

She had to stay in transit at KL until her flight to Bangkok the next day. Malaysian immigration would not allow entry.

　

Sounds more like a deportation, If she had the necessary papers why the need for an escort? Where was the sister and family? Sorry mate but it sounds like she was under detention.

You state that you were seeing someone off....I take it you didnt know this girl personally?

You also state that DIAC would have arranged...so you dont know for sure then? DIAC would arrange the papers for a deported person

If a person from another country loses their passport in Oz, the first port of call is their own embassy who will arrange for a new passport or assist with travel docs so the person can leave Oz without breaching their visas. If I lost my passport in Thailand I would go to the Oz Embassy, wouldnt you??

At the time we actually spoke to them at check-in and he stated himself that she had lost her passport. She had a visitors visa 676 /3month stay so she did not have time to obtain another passport before she was due to leave Australia. Remember she was in Cairns not in Sydney or the ACT.

Is this also an issue with a lost Thai passport.Would it take 6 weeks for a new one.And what would happen if the visa expires before a new passport is issued ?

You would notify DIAC and they would arrange suitable documents for travel out of Australia if required.

Why would you notify DIAC for a lost THAI passport, surely the Thai Consulate would be the place to go if it was lost while in Oz.

My wife didnt need her ex to go to get my stepsons passport or renewal....she did have a Stat dec from herself, her sister and mother stating that the father had been gone for a period of time and his whereabouts was unknown.

Several years ago a Thai who was visiting her sister in Australia lost her passport and her visa had almost run out. She was personally escorted through Immigration at the Cairns airport by an Immigration officer. I knew the immigration officer and I was at the airport seeing someone off to Thailand. DIAC would have arranged the required documentation for immigration so she could board her flight .

She had to stay in transit at KL until her flight to Bangkok the next day. Malaysian immigration would not allow entry.

Posted Today, 07:01

Renewal of passports is carried out by the Royal Thai Embassy in the ACT and at the Royal Thai Consulate General, 131 Macquarie St Sydney. It will take up to 6 weeks and the new passport will be forwarded by registered mail to your nominated address in Australia.

You have to apply in person.

Information and fees are on the website.You can contact them by telephone for further information. The fee is $55.

My wife renewed hers just over a month ago it took 3 weeks.

Went down to Sydney on a Saturday and returned on Monday from FNQ.

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Is this also an issue with a lost Thai passport.Would it take 6 weeks for a new one.And what would happen if the visa expires before a new passport is issued ?

You would notify DIAC and they would arrange suitable documents for travel out of Australia if required.

Thailand and Australia are directly mentioned in the document.

Australia does not have any social security agreements with Thailand.

But it does seem to be worded as a survey but it does not state that it is.

If it was an official document it should have a form number eg ss123 at the top of the page.

One should be very wary of answering questions concerning you assets in Thailand if you have any or your wife has also.

They will want to use the value of these assets to reduce your pension payment. I notice thay have not asked you to prove that you have assets in Thailand. That will be the next step if you answer "Yes" to any question.

Why target only those in Thailand? The document and the motive behind it should be questioned at the highest Ministerial level.

There would be also a number of legal questions to be answered. Australia could be seen as interfering in the affairs of a foreign country.

Remember when "same sex" relationships were recognised by Centrelink? This was done so as to reduce the pensions paid from a single to the partner rate. It was not done for moral reasons.

IMO all pensions should be paid at the single rate, irrespective of one relationships.

Australia claims it supports equality but not where pension payments are concerned.

One Centrelink form asks if you have sex with your partner, Yes/No, and then states on the form that they must ask this question.

My workplace has a PV system, which is directly connected to the grid (PEA power).

I don't know much about cost savings regarding PV/grid systems & nor do I know anything about how the Thai government promotes such systems.

What I do know is the following:

1] The inverter in grid connected systems MUST conform to minimum specs. I will be happy to elaborate on those specs should anyone enquire.

2] Batteries are a contentious issue (not generally used with grid connected systems) & I will be happy to impart my opinion regarding such.

3] The angle of incidence of the PV cells is important. In Thailand, it's not too difficult to determine the most effective 'angle of incidence'.

What promoters of photo voltaic (solar) panels forget to mention is how much electrical power is actually generated over the period when the sun is shining directly on the panels.

Peak sunlight is not constant over a day. Output is restricted by cloud cover or heavy cloud cover with rain.

Question.

What is the output of a 1 kW array over an average day from 6 am to 6 pm and what is the output over 365 days? Output measured in kWhs voltage will be DC.

One may obtain up to 6 kWhs per day, this is how they promote them, the real figures are somewhat different.

Tracking of panels may not be feasable in many installations unless very large.

What is required is a table of sunlight values on the panels versus output voltage.

Grid connected systems are interlocked so that feedback is prevented for safety purposes and isolation for maintainance of the network.

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Then you got electrical issues you need to deal with..Your amperage will drop but not your voltage.. It remains at 240 and that also goes for the post above you..I can have every appliance on in my house and will still read 240 volts at the source..

I know that I have problems: 1 mile of 50mm cables (as advised by the ever helpful PEA) between house and transformer. My point is voltage can drop – though I see you now cover this with your caveat in your next post.

I mile ( 1.6km ) of 50mm copper conductor, yes one will have voltage drop depending on the demand, was this over one phase only or balanced over 3 phases and neutral?

One was surprised that the PEA did not extend the HV line and install a distribution transformer closer to your property line.

What is your max demand in amps per phase?

Voltage drop is measured from the point of connection of the consumers installation, voltage drop on the distribution network is calculated separately.

The reason that my wife renewed here passport in Australia was the fact that it was to expire in Sept 2010 and she is working and would not have been able to travel to Thailand until next year.

It is always better to get the passport renewed in Thailand along with the ID card at the same time.

Renewal of passports is carried out by the Royal Thai Embassy in the ACT and at the Royal Thai Consulate General, 131 Macquarie St Sydney. It will take up to 6 weeks and the new passport will be forwarded by registered mail to your nominated address in Australia.

You have to apply in person.

Information and fees are on the website.You can contact them by telephone for further information. The fee is $55.

My wife renewed hers just over a month ago it took 3 weeks.

Went down to Sydney on a Saturday and returned on Monday from FNQ.

In Australia my will is with the Public trustee--safe and the original is in their possession.

In Thailand I would use the Amphur office.