thailand49

I believe if you are married or not, it can be one or a combination or the two. Depending on where you apply in Thailand from what I hear and experience it could slightly different in each location. First in must be in the bank for at least 3 month before and after prior to you applying. So if you can't do it now and you are coming in July/August you do the math. In theory if you can place 800,000 baht or 400,000 then supposely don't need the income. I know a guy that gets his visa in Laos, only have 200,000 baht in the bank and gets a small pension veritied by a letter at the US Embassy in Bangkok.

My biggest concern is personally you can't live on 25,000 baht a month with a wife and child... you are dreaming. As for your child why? how old...you need to think about his future and what are your expectations for him or her in Thailand. I will take a guess your child is under 5 years old,, and if so you expect to speak to her in English one day forget it. A good school with a deOncent English program will cost you 50,000 baht plus and a school like International will run you 200,000/500,000 Baht. On that budget your kid will grow up a Soi Baby.

I've heard it before and seen it... your wife leads with her Thai thinking because she wants to come home hate it in U.S? Unless you clear nearly a million USD with your house you are dreaming. You are thinking you can have things like the US. car, house, insurance for medical, school and those unforeeable expenses of raising your family and eventually hers! Your utilites will be at least 8,000 baht a month unless you plan to leave in a Tin can roof dirt lot.

Good luck... I suggest you think it over... I wish I had and I did lots of thinking... had a plan... and still that wasn't enough!

Not everyone needs an extravagant life, 25000 a month is doable, in fact I know someone that has a wife and 4 kids making 7000 a month, not the lifestyle I would chose but the point is it is possible. 8000 per month for utilities is outrageous, I never pay more than 2000 and in the cool season can pay less than 1000 and my house is quite nice and comfortable in a quiet safe neighborhood.

This was a generalization! Are you talking Thai family or a family that has been living in the United States and now plan to move to Thailand and live how? Yes it is possible !just because you can not everyone who comes from another country it really honestly depends on the couple. I know many that have to have all the things that had in U.S., every room got to have AC, washing machine, dryer their bill range in the area! Does he have medical for his family, if he doesn't at his age it will cost him for a million baht policy somewhere 24,000 to 25,000 baht or is he going to use thai medical, What about transportation? Is he going to use a motorbike? do I need to tell you how much is a car and what gas is today! If you ask that person you know and observe their life style no way they can enjoy they must be 100% Thai? We will have to part ways and agree to disgree! And still a American kid why? I be honest they adults seem to be thinking about themselves and not the child. Nevertheless, I wish him the best and good luck

I believe if you are married or not, it can be one or a combination or the two. Depending on where you apply in Thailand from what I hear and experience it could slightly different in each location. First in must be in the bank for at least 3 month before and after prior to you applying. So if you can't do it now and you are coming in July/August you do the math. In theory if you can place 800,000 baht or 400,000 then supposely don't need the income. I know a guy that gets his visa in Laos, only have 200,000 baht in the bank and gets a small pension veritied by a letter at the US Embassy in Bangkok.

My biggest concern is personally you can't live on 25,000 baht a month with a wife and child... you are dreaming. As for your child why? how old...you need to think about his future and what are your expectations for him or her in Thailand. I will take a guess your child is under 5 years old,, and if so you expect to speak to her in English one day forget it. A good school with a deOncent English program will cost you 50,000 baht plus and a school like International will run you 200,000/500,000 Baht. On that budget your kid will grow up a Soi Baby.

I've heard it before and seen it... your wife leads with her Thai thinking because she wants to come home hate it in U.S? Unless you clear nearly a million USD with your house you are dreaming. You are thinking you can have things like the US. car, house, insurance for medical, school and those unforeeable expenses of raising your family and eventually hers! Your utilites will be at least 8,000 baht a month unless you plan to leave in a Tin can roof dirt lot.

Good luck... I suggest you think it over... I wish I had and I did lots of thinking... had a plan... and still that wasn't enough!

We will read of these incidents again and again. It is about time that someone in power engaged their brain and started enforcing the laws, such as vehicle checks, driver checks, company checks and if they don't have Tachometers in the cabs, fit them. RIP the dead. Yet again.

jb1

In the USA, there are Vehicle checks, Driver checks, Company checks, and Tachometers, the roads are well policed and everybody has to pass a stringent test.

On average, over 40,000 people die in traffic accidents annually in USA, how is that so ?

Add to that that the vast majority of Thai people that die are on motorcycles, as opposed to the USA where a very small percentage ride motorcycles, motorcycles are much more dangerous, so again, why are the death rates so high in USA ?

Sir,

Have you ever consider the size of the countries and population and the number of vehicles owned? There are 49 States located in North America and Thailand is like the size of pea compare to USA. Last year it was reported by Thailand government that there approximately 12,000 accident death, sixty percent of those death come from motorscooters and those dying are in the age of 15-19 years of age.

I have been driving for 45 years in the USA, and have a A class, passenger endorsement, hazmat, airbrakes, and teaching certification along with a license to tow and park aircrafts the size of a 747, I have never been even in a fender bender in the USA, but living here in Thailand for over 5 years I was rear ended by a Thai for following to close. I have a five year Thai driver license and live next door to a owner of a driver school with a course down the Soi. I watch drivers and wonder what are they learning driving in circles? Everyday I read and see accidents and there isn't one that couldn't be avoided. When this government decides to stop giving lip service to this problem and actually have the balls to do something Thai's will continue to die needlessly and I will just standby and consider it to be a form of population control. The problem starts at the top and when they decide to enforce the laws that are on the books nothing will change! We in the USA consider driving a privilege they consider it here to be their right!

Sometimes like in the U.S. I wonder how the heck some individual even get to be a government representative? Mister Suksoom is a idiot and I'm being kind! First you don't even know your own current law and the reason many get married. In general why would one want to get married and put up with all culture having to support the entired clan when one can butterfly. I suggest you get some data instead of talking from the other end. Your people are dying each day from accidents last time I saw a article 12,000 per year along with another 200 billion lost from coruption from government and now you want to be like Cambodia and Laos.

We foreigners are not perfect and many cause trouble but compare to want I hear and see a Thai man is doing much better? Maybe you ought to look around particularly in the mirror and see how many Thai women have babies and where is the father ? They are gone no requirement to pay child support or even come visit them while they just move on to another. With everything that is going on with your country we are the problem that national attention is needed in this area.

Get real and get a life!

Just another stupid explanation from another stupid government official. Every tour group fare has a visa fee fixed into the cost but I'm sure the Chinese are going to take care of you under the table if you can get this fee to go away! The fee when included into the tour is rarely noticeable. The last time I look the Chinese is the second largest economy in the world and is manipulating their money yet they rarely help anyone but themselves. If everyone that comes has to pay so should they!

This comes from the story in the Pattaya Mail paper this week regarding this story. Believe what you want? In the end two things are fact, the guys dead and it was by a snake.

A. Died of several bite wounds which was lying on the bed next to the nude body.

B. Kept the snake in a glass tank in his room, but often slept with the creature He'd previously been treated several times for bite wounds.

C. September 2009, arrested for stabbing electrician atter repeated request to get Norseman to turn down his loud music.

D. A friend who owned the Bom Didy beer bar, reappeared after a month showing off receipts for how much he paid to get out of jail.

E. Known as a troublemaker at the Soi 4, bars, the bar owner said the Norwegian talked often about his snake encounters and was unsurprised when told of Lindgaard's death from said bites.

Believe it or not? but it's over so r.i.p.

Housepainter,

Hope you got it off your chest? Give Newsite12 a call you two have something in common I think? He also thinks the source came from Gutter News but pick one portion about his drinking to be true. For some reason both of you think from what was said from the gutter news that he was a alcoholic? Where was that indicated in the story? Where was it in the story that the police was corrupt regarding his situation?

This short story was about a guy dying from a Cobra bite, then we go from dogs, beach, computers, rapists, etc etc..... I wish I had your ability to read a short story about an event and come up with so much insight as to what really happen along with nearly knowing the guy. If only he had you for a friend to talk to maybe this would never have happened?

<P>He went out and purchased the cobra because it was in a glass case and sources say he has planned revenge. Premeditation murder if he succeeded but was mostly likely too drunk to handle the snake properly and was bitten and too drunk to even know or feel it. Mostly like sat there watching T.V. until it was too late to do anything! Personally, I'm glad he's gone! he deserve what he got! </P>

Newsite12,

Many of us Farang have problems visiting or living in Thailand and have been screwed and wrong. How many have gone out and purchased snakes to get back or try to murder them. If it was you ;who he wanted to get back at would you be defending him?

He has a history we who speak badly of him didn't create it! He made his bed and now he must sleep in it as crudely as it may seem. This snake wasn't a toy and he had intend by the eyes of the law no matter where he came from. If a Thai had done this I'm sure your response would have been 100% different.

Garbage was him, the story is simple, Man buys poison snake ( illegal ) + to plan a murder + instead he gets bit and died = he is evil moron that deserve what he got and we are to speak good about him and what he was planning?

I guess with the current recommendation for Government officials to get a 5% pay raise it was time for this guy to stand up and be counted to earn that 5% since many within their own felt they didn't do enough to earn it! So he prenounce wear your helmet in certain Zones when the law clearly states you need to wear it at all time! We can all state what is the problem but in the end like most laws on the books in Thailand they are ineffective because of one thing? ENFORCEMENT! Just a reminder there is also a no smoking law and a cell phone law while driving that doesn't work why? ENFORCEMENT!

Being in Thailand, lets say a compromise? Kids need to get to school because parents both have to work or not around so the police make a allowance for them under age to go to school on motorbikes. That 's fine by me but at least put a limit on the bike and they must all wear helmets and drive responsible. I see no point in wearing a tin can on your head when they are driving reckless and speeding. Non school days kids aren't allow to ride with or without helmets if they don't have a license. Consistent application of helmet law must be enforced everywhere even in isolated area's for everyone and not consistently pull farangs over even with helmets and obeying all driving laws to shake them down for 500 baht while locals just get a pass!

Revamp and stop the corruption for obtainling a license for a bike and car. Locals have no training and many can't even read but seem to find a way to pay off the officials in obtaining a license. They take what they learn from their parents or friends and even training schools and past on these bad habits to their kids, when they grown up and progress to cars and buses you have a killing mentality and they don't even know it? When a person tailgates a motorbike within inches at high speed indicating get out of the way when there's nowhere to go after they past can't understand that there is a big difference in weight for a car versus a motorbike. Just a tap from the back at 5 KM/H by a car to a motorbike it goes flying! I have seen it!

In the end, it's not rocket science to know how many are dying due to a inept laws and standards and lack of enforcement. Until everyone is on the same page and boat with enforcement Thais will continue to die at this rate with or without helmets in special zones set up just for showing something is being done when the majority are dying outside Bangkok. You can only teach what you practice! We farangs can give you suggestions until you have the fortitude to actually do something about enforcement without worrying about loosing your job or they tar and feathering your butt Thai people and children will continue to die at this hide rate and be a heavy drain on your financial resources! I have been to some of your local hospitals and seen so many waiting to be treated for motorcycle injuries along with some that are just flat on their backs waiting to be bury!

We all know the answer now instead of words maybe some action and enforcement for your 5% raise?

Sure the driver is the blame but as I noted what is the point of having rules if they aren't obey by NONE ENFORCMENT OF THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS! The system is in place but it seems it more for of a show than anything! No matter where you might come from it is only human nature that at some point we are going to break the rule! I can't speak for any country except the U.S. but to answer the questions yes we do need rules and just think for a minute in Thailand what the results would be if there were NONE at all? As for stats for accidents in Thailand vs. American it is a none comparision since U.S. has stats broken down to the populations with the number of vehicles to what age group are having the most accidents and the type of accidents are happening! Using stats from Thailand vs American would not be fair. But one things is for sure in my opinion for the size of this country and the number of cars and driver they certainly could do better to set a example!

I have been driving for 42 years, certified to drive a tracker traiter along with haz-mat and passenger endorsements and have a instructor certification for the public road with another certification to toll,park and train aircraft towing by the FAA. In those years never had an accident until I started living in Thailand! Was stop by police at a intersection while sitting there the guy behind me bump my back 20,000 in damages he didn't have insurance! Not to go on and go! Thai's can drive fast but lack the skills to do anything else behind the wheel! Westerner see driving as a privilege Thai's see it as a right! The moment they are taught how to ride a motorscooter they advance to a car and some to buses and trucks they bring along the bad habits. No one ever told them that a car is a weapon! Thai's have this saying Mai pen rai ( like saying relax ) but when they get behind a motor they become monsters in killing machines like they have somewhere to go? Speed like hel_l just to have to wait at the next light that last 120 seconds! DRIVING IS GETTING THE BIG PICTURE! FOR THE THAI'S THEY JUST DON'T GET IT AND NEITHER DOES THE COPS OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENTRUSTED TO ENFORCE THE LAW!

It is sad but how often it happens throughout Thailand that it doesn't get reported?<BR><BR>I think most of you miss the point except for the part that eight people lost their life! Why shouldn't they speed? Why shouldn't they drink and drive? Do some research on how Thai's get their driver license! As a Thai, what is a flashing red light? what is a flashing yellow light? What is a soiid white line? What is a solid yellow line? Ever see a four way stop at a intersection? What is the speed limit? Should you tailgate? Should you slow down when it rains? The driver is at fault but if you want to blame someone start at the top and that is the government of Thailand transportation Department. Why follow the rules if there is no enforcement?<BR><BR>The system killed these people and will kill again? I read something like out of 1,000 deaths 800 comes from motorbikes? Thai's can't drive! bottom line, take can smile and go straight but anything else they don't have a clue? Now that is Thai bashing!

From reading his question and the answers being provided I'm confused as he? Not being a expert but I do have a retirement visa here in Pattaya but that isn't the issue is it! He is under 50 years of age, he is asking to stay here long term. What does a multi-entry has to do since he can't obtained a long term visa since he is neither 50 years of age or marry to Thai National. The purpose of applying for a Multi-entry is after you obtained one of the above?

Also, I have a retirement and so does a bunch of my friends who I help them through the process, all they ever gave Immigration in Pattaya is a receipt or contract for their long term stay in their resort or apartments along with the other requirements like bank account and pension verification certificate from their perpective Embassies? Never heard of you having to know someone or living here before you can apply? I have the forms there is no requirement nor has another ask me this question in 3 years. Seems like all he has to do is make border runs to Cambodia every 90 days or so?

Did someone forget to pay the Sup? like they did at the Mandarin? Its the National pastime here in Thailand and in Pattaya it's Beach Rd. No one was arrested when they decided to have their little free flea market which trashed Beach rd. each night. Oh, I forgot? school is out and when they return they got to pay for tuition. More raids until school starts.

Very clever and cunning!

good luck to both of them. greed is a great way to go after people.

and the kid has chipped teath, probably head first over handle bars of a push bike or similar as most kids do at one time or another, and the mother not being able to afford treatment or maybe she is just a bitch, who knows!

anyway, at least the young lad is in good hands now.

How do you know the young boy is in good hands?

jeez! not too hard to work out is it?

First of all, I believe the story is from the Daily Mirror newspaper (I use that term gaurdedly) which has a proven dislike for anything Thai. See previous posts...in which simply living in Thailand is equated with living in "squalor" also by the Mirror.

Secondly, I don't disagree that the child may be better off financially and for lifestyle advantages in the U.K. I have no information regarding the child except what I read in this news story...so I assume that the boy is happier in the U.K. However, there is no proof of that is there? Just the word of the Daily Mirror and it's anti Thai bias to go on.

The point I want to make is that this story just automatically assumes that his MOTHER, being Thai, is somehow less likely to love the boy than her FATHER (who being a Brit is naturally superior to her). To be fair, for all I know she may be a true B_tch...but there is no proof of that.

I'm not quibbling here, but simply making the assumption that the boy living in the U.K. seperated from his mother, will automatically be happier than living in Thailand is something that may be an assertion...but requires proof to be true.

You might not like the Daily Mirror for your reason, but if a person has been to Thailand and lived there it doesn't take much to assume from the story all it all began and of course I will be the first to admit that is a asumption? But reading your opinion it is full of asumptions from beginning to end because you don't like the Daily Mirror and that itself is why your opinions are so negative. Read the story and not be part of the story?

Personally, I don't think a father would go through all this trouble so he can bring him back to abuse him. I'm happy for him? It's not easy for either party especially when the two live in different countries, I wish things were different since the child always suffers when there is a divorce. But as far as the child is concern lets hope that he does have a better life with the father and I believe the mother gave him up knowing that once she return to Thailand where she was living was reality. Allowing the son to leave so easily with the father is the Thai way of saying just that and I hope the father reads this " no matter what happen to you and the childs mother open your heart and not let your son forget her " your love for him got him back now allow that love to continue and teach him right!

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"I went to the Pattaya North Branch, they put me on the phone again!"

Can you say where the North Pattaya AEON Branch is located or any directions on how to get there?

Thanks in advance for any information.

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In Pattaya, The Aeon Branch is located inside the Mall across from the Book store. It is located on the otherside from Pattaya City Hall ( Pattaya Nua ) or up from the Dolphin Circle up past Moon River Pub or the Fairtex Hotel and Sports Club. Up for Central Big C. to the Dolphin Circle / around it hard right turn past the market on corner now go up around a mile and entrance is on the left inside Tesco North.

Good luck, if you take money out of ATM, have a attendant watch the transaction after you put your pin number in! that way you have a witness!

Sorry!

I'm just as liberal as the next person! But this young boy was only 9 years old! Think yourself if you can when you were 9 years old? and tell me what you could have done at that age that can cause someone to want take your life?

These kids weren't 9 years old? they were 16 and 19 years old from the reports! In Thailand they are mostly out of school at 15 years old? they are already adults and had the ability to know where to get a gun and how to use it! and I can tell you if not now it would have been when is the question you need to ask yourselves!

Admitting to the crime is just a means to get a lighter sentence,

In November of 2009, I used the ATM machine In North Pattaya Lotus branch, lost 15,000 baht within a second or two. As noted in other replies I had to contact my bank in the U.S. to dispute the transaction, within 5 days I was given the money back to my account. This is usually done once Aeon does a audit on the machine and have a overage I guess?

In December of same year 2009, I was at Carrefour in Pattaya Klang, needed some cash and thought no way is it going to happen again. Stuck card in for 10,000 baht and got nothing... this time big problems! called my bank again explain the situation even with my bank I felt like I was pulling a scam on Aeon but they put the money back into my account but in January of 2010, I notice that my own bank had taken back the 10,000 baht. Upset I called them in the States and my bank told me that Aeon Bank contacted them through wire transmission that the transaction was valid that was the reason why the money was removed again from my account. My bank email the copy of the wire transmission and it indicated that they have photos of me receiving the money!

I went to the Pattaya North Branch, they put me on the phone again! someone somewhere who knows,, kept me on hold and now says to me they have no record of the transaction in December but do for November! I indicated that I have a wire transmission from Aeon that can show the transaction does exit and the reason I was here was to request proof of the photos that I received the money! I am not a crook! Sorry Sir we don't have record of transaction! Dead end?

Did research on Aeon on Google, and found out that they might have offices in Bangkok I wanted to speak to a live body so that I can provide my side and proof of the transaction! The have Aeon offices near this big building across from Soi Cowboy on Asoke, checked the directory in the building and they have offices for something? on the 25-26-27-28 floors got to the 26 floor, some ladies behind a counter, barely can speak English and put on that phone again? told my story again, put on hold again, lady came back said sorry sir we gave you money! we gave you money! I told me no no no! I want to see the proof, who can I see and where in person? sorry sir we gave you money! Dead end! I have google and email everyone that I can no answer from Aeon! From my reaction from the staff at Pattaya Branch this is a very common thing!

Nine months later, nothing! out of 10,000 baht, I will never do business with them since they have turn a mistake into being a dishonest business. I pretty much have given up since there is no live body with any power to do anything! My next step is to paste signs over their ATM'S so others Expat don't have to go through what I have gone through just to save a dam_n 150Baht!