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Would this be considered losing face?? They did fight in public

OK , forget the hotel room ! 

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Or at least let us know which Hotel Pool we should avoid for the near future!

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Make sure no girls standing in it that want to kiss you

To all that don't believe

Sorry for the darkness of the pics but that's me, ya don't believe it you can kiss my @$$

So, the girl's story does sound like BS alright. And yet it would be a real shame for me to drop all this only because 99% of such stories are BS (there are some farangs happily married with ex-bargirls, right?) . So for those who are now in Pattaya and willing to help a "boor guy" , I do have photos of the girl. You can e-mail me or leave a personal message for me and I will provide some extra info.

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He's hooked

IMHO

The biggest lies here  are the lies this guy is telling himself

She is not telling the truth and he is lieing to himself that she is - From that point on everything else desends into rat sh1t.

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Maybe

I suggest reading 'Private Dancer' by Stephen Leather and then having a rethink!

They are great actors/actresses...

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It should be compulsory reading for those in love with BG's

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I read the book, and My question is why is the attraction of a bargirl so much that a man loses his head (no Pun Intended) I mean their must be good bargirls, but for a farang man to lose his job and everything he has just to be with one. Maybe this Question will never be answered.

what did this "wise" american say? Somthing along the lines of "Us neo-cons have to stick together and spread the word......Genghis Khan had a point you know"

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No didn't say anything of the sort, He did say I was hard headed but that will never change. He just told me you stuck it out in iraq You need to stick it out in LIFE. Don't give in to the @$$holes that are on this forum. He didn't mention who.

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Please post a photo of you in uniform in Iraq?

well done Boon

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Do I really need to?? Sorry Torn can't do that to my brothers and sisters in the sandbox You never know who might be reading this forum.

I had a similar situation with my EX Taiwanese wife.

She told me that her college had refused to give her transcipts up, so she could not go for her visa interview.  I went down to her college, huffed and puffed, and made some people loose face, got her transcripts.  (I speak Mandarin, and at the time I could really lay it on)

  So any how, shortly there after, she asked me to open her purse to dig out her wallet to find a phone number, and in her wallet folded up, was her transcripts.

Being dumb and suposedly in love, I forgave her of her white lie...

  Eventually she made it to the states, we were married, and I tossed her to the curb after 6 months....

  You see that lie I cought her in, was just one of the the million others that she had given to me....

  Think about it.....  a symptom, has been shown. A pattern has been established, and if you choose to ignore it...  Welll it is your life.

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Wow Dakhar Now your Scaring me My wife just got her visa

For some reason my lovely wife calls it "not again!". 

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all i heard from my wife is "aowww" if i asked her again???

I'll have to get some ........ Bwahahahahahaha .  YUK!

The photos are gross...... (sp)

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You're not kidding....

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Thanks RDN I appreciate that

A bit of a long story, and not one i expect anyone to answer with the exact answer but your opinion would be welcomed.

Last visit to thailand in September all went well (apart from me being ill most of the time there, Tonsilitis) Went alone and spent all my holiday with my thai GF.

both very much in love. On my day of departure both of us were very down and upset to be leaving each other, knowing i could not return until Feb.

We speak to each other several times a day and laugh and joke and tell each other how our day has been. Telling each other we miss each other and want to be together quick, talking about our plans for the future together in england to start with, to return to thailand after 1 - 2 years. Talking about wedding ideas and babies.

On leaving my Gf expressed how much she wanted to travel back to the UK with me, this was not possible as she had previously been refused a visitors visa.

She told me at this point as soon as i returned home she wanted me to gather more of the required info to re-apply for the same visa.

Which i did. This is where the story goes strange. My GF and i decided it would be best if we had some more ammo to fight the the reasons she may be refused.

she started school (to which she goes every day).

I sent all the new relevant info over for her visa and she applied.

When she went to the embassy she was told she was over the 75 applicants allowed for interviews that day and was given a date to return. That date being today the 9th of Nov. She called me this morning and told me she again had been refused. I asked why?

She told me the ECO asked lots of questions about her mother being sick, and she thought he did not believe she would want to go to the UK, as her mother was sick, even though her and her sisters take care of her  mother on a shared monthly basis. (this being true about her mother and sisters).

However when i asked what the actual reason given for her refusal was, she said she did not know, he did not say. I asked for her to send a copy of the reasons for refusal letter to me, she said she was not given one nor an actual reason for refusal.

At this point i knew something was wrong, after several attempts, i managed to speak to someone at the embassy and explained the situation. At this point the man i was speaking to checked his computer and said he had no one down for an interview that day. And the last time she went for the Interview was june (prior to my visit in september) Something was wrong.

I called the Gf and asked her to tell me the truth. After "grilling" her for several minutes it all became clear, She had not been for the interview. when i asked why she said she was scared.

I kept asking why she was scared! what of? The embassy? going alone? the interview? England? Flying? me? What?

Her reply was everything!

Now i would understand if she had said every thing except me, but why was she scared of me?

I have never been nasty, never raised my voice, never got violent, always gave her as much as i could and she admitted she knows how much i love her but she could not tell me why she was scared of me. Let me paint a picture of myself. I am 5'8" slim. 30. never been in a fight, hate confrontation, hate arguements, not violent at all. She is 31, 4'5" never been in a relationship before. Never been abused, beaten etc

She told me a story about her friend that was with someone for a long time from norway. Who her friend loved and was loved back in return. When she got her visa to go and stay in norway, she realised her boyfriend was a crackhead that beat her and would not let her go home.

My Gf was scared this could happen to her!!

WHY!!!!!

I asked her if she thought i would ever hit her or do the same to which she replied "No!" but she is still scared of me. She could not tell me why.

After 30 minutes of her crying and  telling me to finish with her because she had lied to me, I calmed her down and told her i loved her still but couldnt understand why she thought this and why she didnt tell me this before. She said she felt really bad about lieing to me but was really scared and thought if she had told me she was scared, and did not want to go alone to the embassy i would finish with her because she wouldnt do as i asked. But i thought we had agreed this together and it was her initial idea! We have sorted things out and told her she must tell me everything in the future about what she wants and to be totally 100% truthfull. She has told me she has never lied to me before and will never again as she still loves me and still wants to get married.

I have never heard a girl say so many times how sorry she was and how stupid she was for doing what she had done. She knows she is in the wrong and that she has been stupid about all this and told me she would never do anything like this again.

After i calmed her down and re-assured her she has nothing to worry about. She immediately said she wants to apply for the visa in FEB.

Now i have no doubts she loves me, i know she does not want someone else, or to split up. And she doesnt work in a bar.

So why does she fear me?

Today has been a horrible day, first getting dream shattered that visa was refused, found out GF lied to me then found out she is scared of me.

Can any one shed any light on this??

Or is it just one of those mysteries that is she is a woman!

(sorry no offence meant ladies!!! Honest)

(sorry .......told you it was a long story)

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Why don't you go to Thailand and live with her for a decent period of time, say 1 year. Build trust and confidence in a real relationship instead of some inter-continental / occasional visit type situation. Be there in person for visa interviews and other times of doubt and fear etc.....

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Good Advice,Not easy to do if you have a job in the US or UK. I was lucky to get Three months with my wife. Surprised I had a job when I got back Also only have one week vacation a year in the US I was able to get 3 months because my boss was very understanding because he went throught the same thing His wife is Filipino. A year is definately out of the question.

Maybe a board member in Patty could check her story out.

You do have a good (digital) pic of her, don't you???

Methinks her story is BS, sorry.

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Could you please, enlighten me what is Patty? And how exactly can its board member help me?

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Patty is short for Pattaya You need to find someone else(girl) Sir.

She did work in a bar but then a shop. I know i know bar girl.....  i am asking for trouble, but not all bargirls are the same, please dont make me go back down this route, of defending her as an ex bargirl, its off the topic. and other members will agree not all BGs are the same. But she was sacked after i left after first meeting her for refusing to go with a customer, i have this 100% proof straight from her ex bosses mouth.

I have a feeling i will wish i never started this.

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She is 31 BIG SPUDS??

what did this "wise" american say? Somthing along the lines of "Us neo-cons have to stick together and spread the word......Genghis Khan had a point you know"

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No didn't say anything of the sort, He did say I was hard headed but that will never change. He just told me you stuck it out in iraq You need to stick it out in LIFE. Don't give in to the @$$holes that are on this forum. He didn't mention who.

Maybe a board member in Patty could check her story out.

You do have a good (digital) pic of her, don't you???

Methinks her story is BS, sorry.

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Only Two weeks and your ready to send her money!!!! Her story is BS and if it's not then Good Luck, Find a Girl Outside of Pattaya.

some one let him into the vip area - ????

I wish he would stop saying that he's leaving and then doesnt ! typical Bushite!

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I already have access to that area and I have stopped saying i'm leaving. Little Wise American Man convinced me to stay You figure out who it is.

She admits to being scared of england the flying etc etc. but i dont understand why me?

I guess i was right, men wont understand women and vice versa.

And her english isnt very good and and she doesnt use the word scared she says "fear" so perhaps its nerves,

Oh well never mind weve cleared the misunderstanding now and are going together in Feb. If i hold her hand and show her love every step of the way, she will be fine.

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Glad to hear, Just hope the truth issue is resolved That would bother me big time if my wife didn't go for her interview. and then told me she did. espacially the wait i had to go through. 2 years

An ex of mine had never gave oral sex before. So i asked her. can you give me a blowjob? So she gets down on her knees and starts. I'm like. AAAHHHHH! ######! A blowjob is just a figure of speech.    

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I had a half chinese, half greek girl a long time ago when I was living in Greece; late one night things were progressing nicely until she went down there - and promptly bit me!

Turned out it was her first time...

In the ensuing discussion [after a suitable amount of recovery time...] I told her she was not supposed to bite it, only suck it. She looked puzzled, and said: "So why do the girls at school call it "EATING THE SAUSAGE""???

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Merlin Good thing you stopped her, Did you ask if she was hungry??

An ex of mine had never gave oral sex before. So i asked her. can you give me a blowjob? So she gets down on her knees and starts. I'm like. AAAHHHHH! ######! A blowjob is just a figure of speech.    

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555555555555555555555555 Can see why she's an EX Jockstar Just kidding

i meant no serious relationship

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Men will never figure out women and also the other way around. But to be afraid of you. Maybe she is scared of leaving Thailand?? My wife is about to come to the states and she told me recently she will miss her Mom and Dad Brother and Sister which is understandable.

My Uncle and Aunt came to the states in 2002 and my aunt did not like it. So she decided to go back. I guess that the mind dreams alot and then when reality hits that's a different story.

Yes, I do have a Missus!  (Er well, I have a 'real' wife in England, and I have my Thai 'wife' who lives with me, and there is that Mia Lap whose university fees I pay, and then there is this SomTam girl....)

OK, I admit it.  I'm just a sad git suffering from a mid-life crisis!!!!  Are you happy now?? 

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Beside the Uk missus. Wont these others start to ask questions? Your on a slippery slope. If the Thai wife finds or even suspects. Then i think your coldsore/herpes is the least of your worries.

John Bobbit springs to mind!

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Even my Lovely wife told me if she caught me with someone else, I would be losing something. Your a brave man Simon43 Chok dee

Since you said she was scared of being in the same situation as her friend with the crackhead, Does Physical and Emotional Abuse go on alot in Thailand??

You said she was never in a relationship before. Are you sure about this??

They cant help themselves. Their scared that it will be something really important. Very rarely is. Or if they dont answer then they will have to call back later. Thus costing them money.

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Thanks Jockstar well she wasn't on the phone for long so i guess it's a good thing

Can anyone tell me why Thai girl's need to answer the phone (hand phone) during "Nasty Time" ??

I think she prefers the werewolf.

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Sorry Wolfie don't want to get between you and your "prey"