KhunHeineken

Advances in technology, and medical treatments. Also, generous welfare systems. 50 years ago, if you didn't work you would starve to death. Now, the government pays you to be unproductive, and who picks up the bill, not the rich, it's the middle class who work hard and struggle to pay the bills.

Most millionaires pay no tax. They hide behind trusts, companies etc, etc. All legal, but at the end of the day, and many other countries are the same, the wealthy do not pay their fair share.

Thailand heading in the same direction, for foreigners and Thai's.

Some people pay good money for that service in a public toilet. Sounds like they knew their target, and already knew he was an overstay. The ex will sell the bar and pocket the cash. Then go back working in a bar again, looking for the next victim.

Yes, but it is an officially pardoned reason for overstaying, with proof, of course.

I'd rather encounter a foreign over stayer than a drunk expat on the road. Funny how the over stayer is arrested, detained, and deported, yet the foreign drunk driver, even after an accident, just gets fined. One is way more dangerous to the community than the other.

In hospital receiving medical treatment.

In that case, he'll "fit" right in.

I accept your position. I only put forward my opinion. I am not saying I am right, and others are wrong. Time will tell.

Simple, because we have no rights here. I've said it before. When the Thai government says to foreigners "Jump." Foreigners ask "How high?" That 12 month visa / extension is basically just a 12 month tourist visa. If you don't want to pay 1 baht tax, what do you do when they want 300 baht for a Certificate of Residence? You pay, just like every other foreigner pays. The Certificate of Clearance could end up being the same. Now, if they really go hard at this, it's 6 months Thailand and 6 months Vietnam for me, and Thailand will get zero tax from me. I really don't care what happens. I have no emotional, and very little financial ties here.

I've put forward a few scenarios since news of this policy broke. The one I think the most likely is just pay a nominal amount of money for a certificate of clearance that will be needed for the extension. 500 baht, 1000 baht, whatever. The one I think the least likely is nothing will happen, it will all go away. Nothing wrong with discussing all scenarios, but time will tell how this unfolds this year, and evolves over the next few years. .

Fail.

No. I was told such discussion could cause undue stress to some elderly folk. Yes, elderly folk who are surrounded by prostitutes, cannabis, alcohol, rock n roll, and corruption, will be stressed by some forum chat about whether a certificate of clearance MAY be needed in the future for their extension.

How so? In my opinion, members sprouting "just do nothing, it will never happen" is more dangerous than giving consideration the what moves the Thai government might make. There's no news on Thaksin's future, nor the next Thai lottery winning numbers, the weather, whatever, so what? Question: If I started a thread titled "Will they raise the 800k to 1 million baht?" Is that scaremongering. or just a discussion exploring how it's been 800k for decades, yet the value of that 800k has diminished, so it's probably due for a rise? What evidence do you have about any of this tax policy? Zero. We are all speculating what MAY happen and in my opinion there's nothing wrong giving some consideration to collection and enforcement.

Strange how there's harsh penalties for being caught as an overstay, but so many believe there will be no enforcement for the tax policy. They'll have to enforce it somehow.

The Mods. I, and many others, had their posts discussing it deleted.

I bet his local bar has since gone broke.

Noooooooo. I have always said everyone's circumstances are different. If your pension is covered by a DTA, good luck to you. The Australian pension (I'm not on it) is not covered by the DTA. It's important for members to note that not all DTA's are the same.

Some good points, and worthy of consideration. I said from day one the Thai government must have something up their sleeve. if they have, they haven't revealed it yet, but the clock is ticking, and we'll soon see if they have.

I'm Australian. The Australia / Thailand DTA only covers government service pensions, not the aged pension. The Australian aged pension is not covered under our DTA. I don't know what country you are from, perhaps you can post it.

I have a feeling there's more to the story.

You guys can't even house your own criminal citizens. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1jxmrk11yo

Strange how the descendants of 1945 are treating the Palestinians at this very moment. A sitting Prime Minister has an international warrant for war crimes, yet, just like in 1945, governments / people sit back and do nothing. UN stands for "Useless Numpty's." Over 45 thousand dead, mostly women and children, in an area 40kms x 20kms. The Gaza Strip is nothing more than a kill zone. There's no hope for humanity. We will always repeat the past.

Guess who's got the business, and rid of him?

From the photos, it looks like he was living better than many expats up in the village.