KhunHeineken

How's the new ASUS going?

Probably a more honest answer than a Thai mechanic.

You may have to, but depending on your property, you might be able to pay the Thai guys a few baht on the side and they will run the fiber to where you want your router, then put the ONT there, then it's just a 1 meter ethernet cable from the ONT to your router. The ONT has a quirk. There may be four ports, but the ISP only assigns one port to work. The Thai guys will arrange the port number, but that's the port you have to use. You can't use any of the others.

Thanks for the information. It gives me another option.

What's that got to do with anything? What a ridiculous comment. If they are tax residents, they will have to pay as well.

Yes, it was that member. He filed, declared, was given a tax bill, paid it, and got a "receipt" to use his word. I predict it's that "receipt" as he calls it that will be required by immigration in the future, whether you have some tax to pay, or not. One's "receipt" could show zero tax owed, zero tax paid, but all good for immigration. More to the point of his post was how they "simplified" the whole tax policy to him remitting X amount, being over 65 and married, therefore he owed Y amount. I also posted this very well may be the way the whole tax policy is implement, nation wide. No assessable, non assessable, pre 2024 savings, DTA blah blah blah. You remitted X amount, you owe us Y amount. Refuse to pay, no "receipt" and therefore no extension. Time will time, but one member has already posted this to be his experience at the TRD.

I was one of the first also to state the obvious, that a document from the TRD MAY be needed for immigration in the future. I, and many other members that wanted to discuss this possibility had all of our posts deleted, as they were branded as "scaremongering." Discussing what would happen if you were riding a motorbike and crashed into a Thai and killed them, and were looking at either some years in gaol, or around 1 million baht compensation to the decease's Thai family is not scaremongering, but apparently discussing maybe a 10k or 20k baht tax liability was "scaremongering." Go figure. I stand by my prediction that a TRD document will be needed by immigration, if not in 2025, at some stage in the future. In the next 2 months we will have more members post of their experience with their TRD office. Like a jigsaw puzzle, the pieces with come together and we will eventually be able to see the picture.

ASIO may be in Thailand, and other countries, depending on what / who they are investigating, and there are some federal police based in the Embassies, but they do not go out and investigate. They liaise with local authorities when needed, and that goes both ways, for Aussies in Thailand, and Thai's in Australia.

Thanks for playing.

Thanks. How late is "late?" I may extend my personal deadline and pay the 200 baht to sit back and gather more information before fling.

Did you get their number?

I know, no one suggested that you had to, however, you MAY need to produce a certificate of clearance from the TRD for your extension. Don't confuse paying tax with the possible need for the certificate at extension time. I wonder if you would get the same information from another TRD office. You are in an interesting position. The deadline is 31st March. You will do nothing. Your extension is October 2025. If we start reading that immigration require a certificate of clearance for extensions, what happens if you file after the 31st March, but have no tax to pay? Surely you can't be fined if you have no tax to pay.

I have just posted in another thread that the TRD may not care about assessable, non assessable, pre 2024 savings, DTA's etc. They may ask for a bank statement, calculate the total of annual remittance, deductions for age and marital status, and churn out a figure you have to pay. Don't pay, no extension. A member has already posted this was his experience.

I have said from Day 1, we will all have "something" to pay. They are clearly opening up a new revenue stream, and no free passes for farang.

Yes, you are correct. Some DTA's are "kinder" than others. It's up to the individual to read their own country's DTA with Thailand, but there are quite a few where the source and resident country both have taxing rights.

How will they know your remitted funds are not assessable, or covered by a DTA? What if you have to produce a certificate of clearance at extension time? You would need to file, and pay zero tax, in order to get the certificate to clear with the TRD that your funds are not taxable in Thailand.

It has been discussed here that the Thai's may / will seek to "simplify" this tax policy. I put forward one way they may seek to do it and it is exactly how you describe in your experience. As I have said, assessable, non assessable, pre 2024 savings, DTA's blah blah blah, they will not care. If you refuse, no visa extension. Simple. What TRD office did you go to?

Given that western pensions go over the threshold, not unlike many taxes all around the world, it seems to effect the people who can least afford it the most. As I have said in the past, "a little out of a little can be a lot for some people." Pensioners may have to adjust their lifestyle, and budget for this tax bill every year, going forward. The high net worth individuals may just pay it, but could vacate for 6 months, depending on their thoughts about this tax, rather than its affordability. It's the people in the middle that will be interesting. They bring in more than a pension, but are not a high net worth individual. Many could be in that "zone" of viewing this tax as a rip off, or, the tax goes a long way towards paying to live 6 months outside Thailand anyway, so why not leave? 2025 is a test year for this. We will have more official and unofficial data on what demographic decided to do what in 2026. Interesting times ahead.

Yes, that's what I said. Members from various countries have posted their country's pension amounts, and then some pretty common set of circumstances, such as, being married and over 65 years of age, and the result was if there to remit all of their pension on an annual basis, they would have a tax liability.

No.

So why do you keep bothering to reply?

Yes, it does happen in every country, except you do not get "cut off" in Thailand, they keep serving you. Then, they wonder why they have a problem with a really drunk customer.

That would be "Tim Tams." If you are going to play the role of an undercover Aussie police officer, at least try to get the "lingo" right.

The part you are clearly unaware of is there has to be a brief of evidence in existence, for which an arrest warrant is issued. I have just posted an simplistic example of a UK male being arrested in Thailand for a murder he committed in the UK. The UK don't sent police to Thailand to do the arrest. I did mention pedo's being arrested in their home country for crimes they have committed in other countries. The Philippines is a popular choice for pedo's. New laws allow for the trial and conviction of an individual in their home country for sex crimes committed against children in another country. Think about that for a moment. The crime was not even committed in the country for which they were arrested, charged, brought before a court, convicted and sentenced. Like I said, the evidence has to be overwhelming, such as a video of him committing the sex act with a child. Jurisdiction dictates who can make the arrest. It's not uncommon in big cases for a home country to send out the officer in charge of the case to brief local police before local police make the arrest. The officer in charge can also be the escorting officer after extradition. If it's federal charges that have been broke, the federal police in the local embassy can be briefed, and they then liaise with a local police task force. This happens a lot with large drug importations. Customs of both countries are also involved. There was a famous case involving Australians in Bali. It's been in the media again recently. Two criminals were executed. The criminals were dubbed "The Bali 9." Police were made aware the group were going to be smuggling drugs, they informed the police in Indonesia / Bali, and they were arrested in Bali, by Indonesian police. Australian Federal Police did not fly to Bali to do surveillance, and make the arrest. It was a somewhat a controversial case because the Australian Federal Police could have kept the intel to themselves, and arrested the group in Australia where there is no death penalty, and prison conditions were not as harsh, but they handed over the intel. This whole thing about police from various countries actively investigating in other countries all around the world is laughable.

I'll give you a very, very simplistic example. Say someone murders someone in the UK and they know there is no way getting off it. Maybe they got into a fight at their local pub and stabbed to death someone, in full view of many people who knew him. He races home, packs a bag, grabs his passport, and heads straight to the airport and flies to Thailand / Phuket. The UK police investigate the case and identify him soon after as being the murderer. Investigators discover, through immigration records, he has left the country. Bank statements, air tickets, and telephone sim card data reveal he is in Thailand. The UK police arrange for an arrest warrant via Interpol and inform Thai police he may be in Thailand. The Thai police check their TM30's, but also may have some intel from the UK police that he has hit an ATM in Kata Beach Phuket a few times. They will also see he is receiving calls from friends and family in the UK and those calls are going to Phuket Thailand. The Thai police see a TM30 for him at a hotel in Kata Beach Phuket. The Thai police send in some undercover to sit off the hotel to make sure it's him. Satisfied it's him, they can raid his hotel room at 4am, or arrest him in a restaurant / bar, or while sun baking on the beach. He'll be held in custody awaiting extradition. The extradition will be granted. The UK police will send one or two officers over to escort him back to the UK where he will face trail for murder. The above is a very simple example, but the UK police do not send undercover officers to Phuket / Thailand to arrest him.