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Actually ... if it's OK to share ... what's her FaceBook name ... the photos and comments would be great to share.
Every Thai girl has FaceBook ...
Very often 2 or 3 accounts
Priceless comment Bookman, love it!
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She does well, we do well. She fails, we fail.
Sad to say , " she isn't the one
ruiningrunning this country.Remove the puppet master and his family and their brown nosing acolytes then Thailand and the people of Thailand might just have a chance.
Tribalism in action.
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"Mastubatory circles". My mind is boggling now!!
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And in a typically Thai-ficient manner, they had some poor sod up there with a 2" paint brush with the first tin of paint he found in the shed.
Much more efficient to simply spray it over with white paint - and less frigging OBVIOUIS!!!!
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It sounds bizarre, but as a Kiwi I'm used to this sort of spirit thing. The Maori in NZ dominate all aspects of life relating to their spirituality. If a new public building is built, the Maori must bless it and scare away the evil spirits. Recently a helicopter pilot got fined for hovering over a mountain and apparently causing massive cultural dramas because the mountain was sacred to the Maori. I could go on and on.
So whilst the Thai may sound a bit third worldly in regard to their respect/fear of the spirits, look at first world NZ where the native culture is all pervasive and the entire country has to kow-tow to their beliefs.
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Um.......buy some tires with grooves in them, from a roadside bike repair shop. You'll see them placed every 200 metres along most soi's.
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I understand that mun can be used very informally amongst close friends and is a form of joking. We might say to a close friend, "hey f**kwit, your turn to buy the beer". I've heard mun used that way, but only in a joking abusive type manner in a closed environment.
As to the OP - I suggest you put yourself in the same position again where they use mun to talk about you, and then give them a polite broadside in Thai that should make them internally cringe and offer a million apologies and wai's.
Complaining after the fact is a waste of time and will give you no satisfaction whatsoever, it's much more fun to chastise them in Thai and watch their world crumble.
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The more I think about this thread, the more comes to mind of my virgin visit. Here's a couple more:
Umbrellas (as well as flip-flops and cigarettes) are also considered communal property.
If Grandfather or Father say they like your shirt, it means they would really appreciate you giving it to them.
Being rainy season, your feet will be continually wet and muddy - if you're wearing jeans, roll them up.
The "shower", if they have one, will be rain or river water. Or you may be reduced to a swill down from a stone jar with a saucepan. My advice - stay dirty.
Don't show too much interest in the 7 year olds, or they'll be constantly two steps behind you.
Be prepared for the shanty with next to no walls, but a 9 foot satellite dish parked outside.
At night you won't be able to sleep because of the neighbour playing loud Isaan music till 5am, the insects making so much noise outside, the insects in your bed. Whoops - no bed, you're sleeping on the floor, but they'll still get you.
Don't touch any electrical outlets for any reason. I got a T-shirt for that one!!
If given the opportunity to slingshot the chicken for dinner, decline. You will miss and possibly hit a dog - it may still be classified as dinner.
And nobody thus far has mentioned your mode of transport. Are you taking a Suicide Bus, a Suicide Van, or a Suicide Train?
Edit: And finally, if you think somebody is asking you your name, tap your chest and say "kee-niau". In fact, repeat this phrase whenever somebody says anything at all to you.
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Did your lady explained to you when she brings you the village, the negotiations might start how much Sin sot you can afford or they have already a figure in their head.
You should open that subject to her before you visit her village.
He won't know what sin-sot is yet. Let's not spoil all his fun just yet.
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Wear your cruddiest flip-flops. If you wear expensive ones, chances are you won't be bringing them home. Flip-flops are considered communal property in Isaan.
If you smoke, they are also considered communal property.
Deftly advertise that you have very short arms and extremely deep pockets, thus extracting your wallet is physically impossible for you.
Wear sunscreen.
And the best piece of practical advice you will ever receive - take some lamasil cream with you, because you will get toe-jam.
Also, if you hear the word falang being spoken continually, don't assume they're talking about potatoes. Try and pick up on the words that immediately precedes or follows farang and look it up in your Thai dictionary. If you hear kwai-falang, they're not talking about buffalos and potatoes.
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If you're a farang, you don't need to buy land in your wife's name. You can buy a condo and have clear title to it.
True, but the rice growing ability of 36m2 of airspace is somewhat limiting.
You don't need to own land to grow rice, you can lease it.
Renting everything here is generally the best option.
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lots of people with lots of different opinions and views. One familiar thread that runs through most of the comments is how adept Thai ladies are at mugging off their foreign/western husbands and leaving them potless. Whilst this may very well be true it's not something that is exclusive to the Thai ladies. a lot of guys (me included) came here after a failed marriage and then getting properly roasted financially by the wife back home. My ex-wife in England was having an affair while i was workling abroad. I came out of the marriage with absolutely nothing,she got the house, car, kids etc etc So it's not just the Thai ladies that can make a bloke skint! There are plenty of comments about new arrivals heeding the warnings and the horror stories. Plenty of warnings telling new arrivals (I guess not only new arrivals as I guess I'm not the only person who knows people that have been scammed more than once!) that the smiles are false, the "handsome man" "I lub you!" is all b*llox but what everybody is not getting is that these people WANT to believe it's true. They've just had a kicking from an ex-wife back home, ego battered and now a young and seemingly beautiful lady is making a fuss over them. They WANT to believe it's for real and no warnings or relating of horror stories will make any difference! Some times it is for real, sometimes not - Just like back home! Anyway, that's enough from me, it's starting to look like a novel!!! Have a nice weekend everybody!
In reality it's no different here to back home - wherever home might be. We have a saying where I come from. Don't fall in love and get married, just find a woman you hate and buy her a house - financially and emotionally less of a problem.
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If you're a farang, you don't need to buy land in your wife's name. You can buy a condo and have clear title to it.
True, but the rice growing ability of 36m2 of airspace is somewhat limiting.
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Op - "one way" in Thailand means the way that you happen to be going.
Sometimes, expediency is the best alternative and Thais seem to accept and adapt to this. I used to think that the driver reversing 300m because he missed an exit or U-turn to avoid driving 2 klm to the next U-turn were lunatics. And while I'm not saying it's a particularly safe thing to do, when confronted with a similar situation, I chose to do it.
Expediency and adaptability - two things we have lost in the west due to the proliferation of the Nanny State, and the taking away of personal self responsibility over the last 40 years or so.
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I totally agree with the "when in Rome" theory, and that applies to anything to do with living in Thailand. Park where you want, stop in the driving lane and put on your hazard lights, run the red light if it can be done safely to avoid the bus behind you from nailing you etc.
However, my particular favourite is the lack of the western taboo of picking ones nose in public. As a lifelong furtive picker, it's refreshing being able to openly indulge oneself in public.
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How about the Thai government allow reciprocity in buying land? Or, Western governments disallow citizens from making purchases of land/houses etc. e.g. Thais and Thaksin types. Turn around is fair play as they say.
I mean seriously if a Westerner buys land can he take it back to his Mother country??? Restricting land purchases only keeps the rich and powerful/ rich and powerful. And it prevents a Thai land owner from possibly receiving a more substantial amount for said land - when sold.
Um.....regarding a foreigner being allowed to purchase land in Thailand, I note below the translation of the first two lines of the Thai National Anthem.
"Thailand embraces in its bosom all people of Thai blood,
Every inch of Thailand belongs to the Thais."
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Every farang arriving in Thailand for the first time should be locked in a rubber room and forced to read the Marriage and Divorce section on this forum for 24 hours straight.
Oh well, if some guy is determined to drink and/or drug himself to rags or to death with some bar girl no one can stop him. Even if he's completely sober but chooses to throw it away on some cute thing half his age no one can stop him.
Life has choices.
Agreed but the the one thing I can never get my head round are the farangs who are not the drink and drug types, some pretty wealthy, educated etc who manage to lose their lot in Thailand, for the most part one assumes these people are not stupid and are fully aware of the reputation of Thai ladies, and even if they truly believe, she is different, they haven't had the foresight to have a plan B in case thing do go tits up......for me personally if after nearly 12 years with Mrs Soutpeel, I had the dirty done to me, I know almost exactly what she could get away with financially, based on what i have " invested" in thailand, and this is the amount i have prepared to "risk" or walk away from if need be
I have further taken the liberty of keeping the bulk of my finances offshore in an account she can't get at directly, to me it's just common sense, you don't throw your lot in and hope for the best, you need to make provision for the rainy day that might happen
Which reminds me of the Kenny Rogers song called "The Gambler". Personally I hate the song, but some of the lyrics are quite sage:
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
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You know, it is ok to tell your date or better yet girlfriend that you consider it rude to have your head stuck in a screen when in your company - which it is.
My missus used to have the same problem way back then. I suggested it was rude and she didn't get the message. I walked out of the bar we were in and left her there with the bin, she didn't even notice me leave for over an hour according to my mates - I went to WS and rocked home to stony silence at 2AM after not answering her repeated calls.
Next morning I told her I was bored and she was ignoring me by playing with her cellphone - som nom na.
It happened again about a month later. I told her it was rude, got ignored, left her with the bin, and went to LK metro. Rocked home at 3AM - she pretended to be asleep.
Hasn't happened again.
The missus now understands the theory of cause and effect.
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Op - if you do go for the visit, I'd like you to undertake and give us a bit of a trip report on your return.
Some of the advice you've received has been a bit tongue in cheek, but behind all of the semi cryptic comments there is substantial truth. Even those of us in successful (to date) long term relationships have had some interesting, frustrating, costly, and also very wonderful experiences with Thai families.
I think most of us are just saying that you have a lot to learn and understand, and your apparent naivety may land you in a place you don't want to be. From your posts you also seem like a reasonable bloke - this is both a good and a bad thing, as you are destined to find out.
Sometimes the best way is to do it the hard way and figure it out yourself. That may well be costly from a financial and emotional perspective, but the lessons may be worth it.
Good luck, and be sure to revive this thread when you return. I'm picking that right now you think you have it under control and assume the advise you've received is a little lopsided and maybe only 10% relevant to you because this is simply "popping in to see the parents because you'll be so close anyway".
On your return, re-read some of the advice and let us know how much you really did understand. I'll bet that you'll then agree that most of the advice was 90% relevant, but you only understood 10% of it.
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It's a quick stopover for a few days to say hello while we are visiting the ubon area. I really don't see a problem with this.
And that proves the very point - you don't see the problem. The fact that you aren't aware of the social, cultural, financial, and emotional issues is a major problem.
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Did you realise that today is Friday 13th? Black Friday!!
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OP - here's an analogy for you.
If a bloke (regardless of age/maturity etc) says to me "hey I've been riding this iddy biddy 110cc scooter for a few weeks now and I think I'm ready to buy that 1000cc Superbike - what do you think?"
My answer is "Mate, you may think you know how to ride that scooter, but a superbike is a bit of a jump. Chances are you'll kill yourself. You need a lot more experience and move up in size gradually as your experience increases.
Bringing it back to your original question OP, you're inexperienced and don't know anywhere near enough about what you are potentially letting yourself in for. Not just the actual visit, but the potential aftermath of the visit.
Inform yourself a great deal more before you twist the grip on your Superbike, or just stick with the Scooter and putter around Patts.
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Chaos on Pattaya's Roads
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If on a scooter (and wanting to go straight ahead) I never stop in the left hand lane. I always pull into the second lane, if there's a vehicle there I'll pull in front of it. The signage about stopping/left turns/waiting traffic etc is far too confusing and if you stop you'll likely wear a mini van up your jacksie.
Most major intersections have a space for bikes labelled as such, and if not, most Thai drivers park short of the line leaving a space for bikes. (take note - most Falang car drivers don't leave that space. If you don't, I recommend that you consider doing so. Mainly because it's safer for all involved if the bikes are in front of you when the green comes on, rather than beside you. Of course if you're territorial, no problem!)
If in my truck and going straight ahead I avoid that left lane for the reasons the OP mentions. Plus, the left lane even for driving a truck in a straight line is courting disaster anyway.
However, if I'm turning left (on the bike or truck), I'll slow, check for the BIB around the corner, and go for it, irrespective of what the signs says or doesn't say. Have occasionally seen the BIB around the corner especially at Klang/3rd Road. I just stop as soon as I see him, even though halfway around the corner. Once he laughed and waved me on, once he gave me the evils but didn't do anything. I did get a ticket there 3 years ago but I was a bit green back then.