noitom

ok guys, the topic at hand is not about hubs or crackdowns.....

everybody got my message?

Thx

Don't forget "reshuffles". Reshuffles are extremely important and far surpass crackdowns and hubs as a critical focus area. Much lower on the priority are incidental issues like floods, mass death in building and nightclub fires, closing of airports, unsolved and/or "forgiven murders"..etc. "Reshuffles" - yes, that's the key. They are always reshuffling. True they do crackdowns and speak of hubs this and hubs that, but it's the reshuffles that sustain everything else. They reshuffle everything, military, government, private sector associations, contracts of all sorts...etc. Reshuffles, that's it. That should be the new image branding slogan "Thailand Reshuffles"

This must come from bizarre Thai tourism play book. Like a knee jerk reaction, after every disaster the tourism dept comes out and says tourism will not be affected. With hundreds of people dead, and billions of baht lost, it seems a trifle insensitive to be talking about tourism numbers.......

But that's the way they are: Any global earthquake or recent plane crashes, or other disaster - the headline has been something like: "No Thais Dead", or "No Thai Workers Injured" or "Thais this and Thais that" - Isn't it Amazing?

I read through this "story" and find it runs very similar to the scam emails one gets. Even to the extent of the bad English used in the "story".

I just find that the whole story sucks and is at all not true. You have the 'rich Chinese man" the Manager, the driver, and the gambling expert.. Purely fiction from a D class novel!

What dam_n rubbish!

I agree. The whole thing is a perpetuation of the con. The wife was in on it and the story was invented to rationalize to the husband how she sold the house to pay them.

Fixing the Thai education system is a long term project and I honestly don't think many of the current politicians have the foresight to start this, as the rewards will be reaped by a government 5, 10 , 15 years down the line.

It would appear the powers that be don't want to fix it, why bother? It allows them a steady stream of under educated pawns to use in whatever fashion they want. It's all part and parcel of the way this society has evolved (or devolved) into what it is today every person for themselves at whatever the cost to those around them. If you have the right name or can make the right phone call do whatever you want. If not tough titties. There is NO will to change the education system which is why it will never happen. Those troublesome farang that think they know a better way to run the education system will simply be ignored or worse gotten rid of.. amazing Thailand indeed

Well, after two years teaching business communication, marketing, and management at a top five Thai university, I feel qualified to comment. I was appalled at the capabilities, and previous learning of second year university students. There is a motivational issue, which is addressed by the responder commenting on "no student fails" - so why pay attention. But they do generally have an attention span problem characteristic and are little interested in anything outside their base level life experience. Their ability to "think" is almost non existent. We worked this through with many practical business cases and thought organization. They are basically very limited by their environment and culture. true, I was mainly working with elite class students who were bought in or there based on family reputational influence. Overall, their ability to comprehend ideas and conceptual thinking is very restricted and shockingly limited. The thing that bothered me most and was increasingly difficult for me to deal with was their attitude of "privilege" , entitlement, and general resistance to try and put in a solid effort. The final point I can comment on is the total absence of management, organizational leadership, work ethic, and example.

Fixing the Thai education system is a long term project and I honestly don't think many of the current politicians have the foresight to start this, as the rewards will be reaped by a government 5, 10 , 15 years down the line.

It would appear the powers that be don't want to fix it, why bother? It allows them a steady stream of under educated pawns to use in whatever fashion they want. It's all part and parcel of the way this society has evolved (or devolved) into what it is today every person for themselves at whatever the cost to those around them. If you have the right name or can make the right phone call do whatever you want. If not tough titties. There is NO will to change the education system which is why it will never happen. Those troublesome farang that think they know a better way to run the education system will simply be ignored or worse gotten rid of.. amazing Thailand indeed

Well, after two years teaching business communication, marketing, and management at a top five Thai university, I feel qualified to comment. I was appalled at the capabilities, and previous learning of second year university students. There is a motivational issue, which is addressed by the responder commenting on "no student fails" - so why pay attention. But they do generally have an attention span problem characteristic and are little interested in anything outside their base level life experience. Their ability to "think" is almost non existent. We worked this through with many practical business cases and thought organization. They are basically very limited by their environment and culture. true, I was mainly working with elite class students who were bought in or there based on family reputational influence. Overall, their ability to comprehend ideas and conceptual thinking is very restricted and shockingly limited. The thing that bothered me most and was increasingly difficult for me to deal with was their attitude of "privilege" , entitlement, and general resistance to try and put in a solid effort. The final point I can comment on is the total absence of management, organizational leadership, work ethic, and example.

Thaksin, as represented by his sister and other associates, just won a general election outright despite his opponents holding all the boss cards? Methinks others are the ones pushing the limits .

It's the Chinese with the aces. Why in the world would a smart and savvy guy like Thaksin make such a blatant move as to call in to a cabinet meeting and tell people what to do? Why would he call that much attention to himself? What kind of advisers does he have? What was he thinking? He's smart, does he have superior military backing lined up? Think about it.

Why in the world would a smart and savvy guy like Thaksin make such a blatant move as to call in to a cabinet meeting and tell people what to do? Why would he call that much attention to himself? What kind of advisers does he have? What was he thinking? Geez, boggles the mind.

Dummy cameras+Dummy Government=Miracle Thailand

My idea is that they paid top money for them, and pocketed 90% of the price, knowing they were fake, and now someone has just realised and tried to make out they were bought as fakes.

But who was the "last greater fool" here? Who was the last man standing who came up a loser on this deal? The farang company, the low pecking order Thai, the Thai gov offical who approved it, and never got his skim because the fakes were installed and some contractor reneged on the vigorish? I remember reading a few years ago about fire sprinklers that fell off the ceiling in about seven schools clustered in the same area. What really surprises me is that they didn't find that only 500 were real and 19,500 were fake. Thailand keeps improving its ability to scale, but needs to keep practicing. Common Thailand, you can do it, scale up to 85% fraud - you can do it. Don't let the girls of Thailand show you how to run the backbone of the economy.- keep it up.

Three years and 20,000 baht is a sad joke, given what occurred in this episode...

But more importantly, who exactly is Wisuth? The owner? An executive?

I recall previously, there was stuff circulating about someone like the parking attendant being the supposed manager... I'm exaggerating here...

But seriously, the reports were that the place was basically run by someone high ranking in government/law enforcement. Is Wisuth THAT guy, or just a fall guy?

Exactly, good question. Who is Wisuth? I remember that there were something like eight co-owners. Was it determined that Wisuth should be the one thrown under the bus to stand for the crime? What about the additional implicated people on the CSD and force? Was there any further investigation of collusion and conspiracy to avoid regulatory certification by inspectors? This case would have been a very good high profile case for Thailand to show that it cares about setting world standards and regulations that make it safe for Thais and tourists alike to be secure in its buildings and promises. Alas, Thailand followed the old school book. First , determining what was "the best thing to have occurred and then "fix" the evidence accordingly. Second, determine the minimum acceptable penalties acceptable , if only Thais involved. Third, how the police and government fixers would be "taken care of". And then lastly appearing on the surface to give some evidence of penalty closure. So Wisuth ends up being the one thrown under the bus to hold up as the example that justice was at work , Thai style. Condolences again to the families of the victims. I remember seeing the photos of their charred and unrecognizable bodies pied up at the "locked and chained from the outside" exit doors, as they desperately and frantically tried to escape the heat and smoke and were burned alive. Wisuth was obviously the sole person responsible for "chaining" the only exit door closed so as to prohibit others from sneaking in for free and avoiding the 500 baht cover charge.

100,000b a day for a year . . .

What kind of penalties can this Welshman and two Englishmen expect?

did not think it was in violation of Thai laws

of course not . . . . wonder what their visa status is/was.

The "authorities" want their cut. These guys sound like they can buy their way out.

It's not the first time I hear about these stickers.

But I don't understand what the Land Transport Federation is complaining about.

They want the police to be more strict in giving fines to drivers who don't respect the weight limit ?

Or they want the right to break the law without consequences ?

Right, exactly. The Land Transport Fed broke protocol by going public with the scam. Good question, what exactly do they want? Obviously if you break the code and go public the highway patrol has to put up a defense. We need to know more about the Land Transport Fed's motives. Do you suppose that the highway patrol wanted to increase the "sticker" price to 5K and the LTF balked? Maybe this is the way to get it in the hands of the recognized arbitrator Don Somchai so that he can resolve a "fair" settlement and they both get what they want and of course, Don Somchai gets his increased vig too. All in a days work.

For Non-Immigrant O Marriage Visa - You only need "joint" income of 40K Baht per month (it may be a little higher now-but not much) That's "joint" so it includes both husband and wife income. You will also need a notarized letter from your embassy stating your income. Most embassies have a form for this and your state your income to them. Thai immigration takes that notarized statement as proof of income. Many people are not familiar with the actual requirements for the marriage visa - It is different from the retirement visa.

Like most Thai "strategies" - it's putting a little lipstick on the pig and some freshly skimmed money. The big 64,000 question is regardless of name and slogan, can the girls of Thailand bring it home for yet another decade. Hats off to the girls, the real "backbone" of Thailand.

if you're living here for any length of time and don't understand the way Thais and Thainess works , maybe you should do some investigation - try reading this source http://studyinthaila...ety_values.html - The author, who is Thai , put together what is referred to as the 'definitive" work on trying to define Thainess , Thai values, and character. It doesn't matter what country I am from , we are all just Farangs to Thais and all in the same category. So asking about what country I am from has nothing to do with the essence of this observation.

if you're living here for any length of time and don't understand the way Thais and Thainess works , maybe you should do some investigation - try reading this source http://studyinthaila...ety_values.html - The author, who is Thai , put together what is referred to as the 'definitive" work on trying to define Thainess , Thai values, and character. It doesn't matter what country I am from , we are all just Farangs to Thais and all in the same category. So asking about what country I am from has nothing to do with the essence of this observation.

if you're living here for any length of time and don't understand the way Thais and Thainess works , maybe you should do some investigation - try reading this source http://studyinthailand.org/study_abroad_thailand_university/Thai_society_values.html - The author, who is Thai , put together what is referred to as the 'definitive" work on trying to define Thainess , Thai values, and character. It doesn't matter what country I am from , we are all just Farangs to Thais and all in the same category. So asking about what country I am from has nothing to do with the essence of this observation.

I don't, we have left Thailand six months ago after four years. My Thai wife loves being away from that attitude. The fact is that 9 out of 10 posts on this site complain and crank about Thais and "their way".The folks who naively ask "why in the world would you live here"? just don't get it.

I don't, we have left Thailand six months ago after four years. My Thai wife loves being away from that attitude. The fact of the matter is that 9 out of 10 postings on this site complain and crank about Thais and "their way" - so you and the other guy and others who naively ask 'why would we live here"? just don't get it.

I don't, we have left Thailand six months ago after four years. My Thai wife loves being away from that attitude.

When you live in Thailand and can get past the illusionary smile thing that seems to captivate occasional tourists you see the real everyday Thai. Totally self absorbed. Ambulance, fire truck, emergency, any kind of normal civil function has nothing to do with me. I am me in my own world and unless you will impact my "face" , I pay you no attention, you are nothing. I drive in front of you as if you don't exist. You are dying, it's not my concern. I will remain in the same lane blocking you, because who you are and what you are doing is an imposition to me. I am Thai, and if you don't understand that then you don't understand me and my "Thainess". Now call ahead and tell them to just wait for your fire truck, because I will not move. You in the ambulance in my rear view mirror, have you got it yet? I don't care if the person you are rushing to get to the hospital dies. They mean nothing to me. I am Thai. It is part of m my Thainess.

This BTS train crowding was obvious long ago. Thai are not capable of planning and ignored repeated observations for many years before. If I'm not mistaken BTS was acquired by the media company that does the advertising on the BTS stations and cars, so longer cars would provide additional channels for more advertising revenue. Together with added fares and additional advertising, this would be the business plan for purchasing additional cars, plus the Thai scheme of kickbacks to merchants at Emporium and Paragon should be more than enough funding and cash flow for at least two additional cars on each train. However, it will take the Thais another ten years to figure out how to split up the money and therefore never getting around to even thinking about customers, risk, and mass transit. Anyway, the elite all drive to work and around shopping so they would never be found dead in a BTS train no matter three or five car length. - noitom