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16 hours ago, khunPer said:

The one I posted above is from October last year, and accepted by Immigration, and similar to the one I've had for the past several years from Thai International Hospital, except first year 2014, where I used Bandon Hospital, when a health certificate for extensions stay was again needed since before 2007.

 

I cannot remember what I paid at Bandon in 2014, but they didn't check any more that TIH, i.e. blood pressure, pulse, weight, and a kind doctor that listened to my breast; i.e. no X-ray and no blood test. The certificate was the below image...

 

Here's what I now heard from a doctor at Bandon (Koh Phangan) by email:  "... Previously last 2 years, our doctors used to do only physical examination in order to sign the medical certificate but it made our team not comfortable with that to sign the form with doubt. So team (doctors) discussed with the boss and came up with the package of this one - investigation for Syphilis and TB with blood and Xray. ..." 

But after further discussion it turns out they are willing to skip the X-ray and instead do a blood test for TB.  That costs an additional B220 for total of 650+220 = 870.  Pricey but in my mind worth it since they're already doing the blood test for syphilis and it avoids the radiation exposure of an Xray.

2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

That form is similar to the one that I used to have to get signed when Noah was a lad (pre 2004???)

I have not seen one of those for years.

Try another hospital or even a private clinic? (Samui Home Clinic Bangrak. I do not know if Dr Bew is allowed to do these but a quick question to her will tell you. Google is your friend.)

People say it now has to be a hospital, not a clinic.  And on the Immigration Office's list of required documents it says "medical certificate (hospital only valid  for 7 days)".

What kind of form have you seen more recently?

1 hour ago, khunPer said:

No X-ray, but a kind doctor was listening to my breast, probably the lungs.

They checked blood pressure and pulse, and asked for my weight and height (I knew it well, so no need to jump on the scale).

No syphilis check on my health certificate, that is (to my knowledge) needed, when applying for B-extension.

 

And this is the (my) recent certificate from Samui International Hospital, accepted by Samui Immigration...

I see yours does not mention syphilis (I did an app photo translation) but it does mention TB.  I guess your hospital is willing to certify no TB based just on listening to lungs rather than X-ray.  I suspect Immigration doesn’t mind that but Bandon Hospital is either trying to be more professional or is trying to justify charging more by doing an X-ray.  

28 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Sure you asked for medicial check for retirement extension?

It' might be better to use Thai International Hospital, Bandon has become more expensive during the later few years; I had no problems at TIH in October, easy and 250 baht...????

Did you have to get an X-ray? Now I asked them and they say yes it’s needed even for retirement extension. Attached is the form they say Immigration needs.  

Just dropped by Bandon hospital in Koh Phangan.  They’re up to speed on the certificate.  B650.  But I was surprised they insist on not only a blood test (syphillis) but a chest X-ray.   They say the certificate has to say I don’t have TB.  Seems crazy, especially since BKK Immigration doesn’t even require a medical certificate at all.  Why the heck should I need that radiation exposure ...

5 hours ago, phetphet said:

 

I was quite surprised to be asked for the old book. I have never been asked at all for neither book nor statements at any 90 day reports. 

 

It's hard to understand why they would ask for bank documents of any kind for a 90 day report.  It's not required by law and not in other offices (at least not in BKK) and it makes no sense because when you report online or by mail you never include bank documents.   Have other people been asked for them?

45 minutes ago, lom said:

No it is not true.

Years ago Samui Immigration only accepted medical certificate from governments Samui Nathon Hospital which involved both a blood test and a urine test.

Nowadays they gladly accept medical certificate from private hospitals, I and most others use Thai Inter in Chaweng where you get the certificate within 20-30 minutes to the price of 250 baht.

You declare yourself fit to stay and the doctor listens to your lungs. That's all.

Thanks, good to hear.  Any chance you know of a good hospital for this on Koh Phangan (that's where I'm located)?

9 hours ago, khunPer said:

You need to show 12 month in bankbook copies, and all pages in a bank book. So when you change bankbook it might be a lot of pages. If you use income method, you need to show that FTT for each month is not less than 65k; if deposit method, you need to show 800k for at least five months, and not less than 400k for the remaining (seven) month.

My best advice, based on several years experience with Samui Immigration: Just strictly follow the rules in their list, then extension of stay is smoothly handled with a smile...????

Good advice but the problem is their list is not nearly as specific  as (from what I hear) the office actually demands.  For example this quibbling about bank books and the exact format of copies. 
 

Also,  the list asks simply for a medical certificate without saying what it should contain and apparently now clinics are not acceptable.  I’ve even heard that only public (not private) hospitals qualify. Is that true? Some of the best hospitals in the country are privately owned.  

6 hours ago, phetphet said:

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The bad news (for me at least) was that although I had printed all pages of current bank book, and had bank letter and statement for last three months, they still wanted to see my old bank book.

When I asked why, I was told, " Boss says have to have old bank book because you used money in bank method last year."

 

I was still doing the same this year. So a trip home was required.

 

I don't know if it would make any  difference, but maybe next time I will ask for a "last twelve months statement" from the bank.  Can't be any more expensive than a three month one.

 

To be clear, are you saying they want a bank book that shows the entire 12 months since your last extension?  If that's the case, I'd like to know what they would do if your current book only goes back say 6 months, and you don't have the old one because you either lost it or discarded it.  There's no law that says you have to keep old bank books, and how could you know it's required if it's your first time with this office? (Other offices don't require this).  Samui's official document list just requires "6. Copies of a bank book, showing the all page." (sic).   Nothing about old books. Surely if you have a statement that goes back 12 months it should suffice .... ? 

34 minutes ago, khunPer said:

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It's some of the additional documents that can be a problem, if youfor example dont have the right rent agreement and documentation from owner; however the specified list from the immigration office includes all you need to prepare...????

Thanks - did they make you give them a copy of the owner's ID?  (Above I noted that may be impossible for me).

54 minutes ago, phetphet said:

90 day takes 5 minutes,( depending on how busy they are. ) I left with my passport straight away. Visa renewal takes one  week. So no passport for one week.

 

Thanks.  What about the multiple re-entry permit, is that also a same-day thing?

I have to file my 90 day report as well as get my visa extension in Samui.   When filing the 90 day do you have to return later for passport/receipt etc. (as with the extension) or is it finished the same day?  If the latter, timing is better if I first apply for my extension, then file the 90 day the next week when I return.

16 minutes ago, phetphet said:

.pdf versions of latest Samui specific TM7 and TM8.

 

TM7 two sides.  TM8 single side.

 

 

2021-01-12-0001-TM7.pdf 938.39 kB · 6 downloads 2021-01-12-0001-TM7b.pdf 849.77 kB · 0 downloads 2021-01-12-0002-TM8.pdf 1.02 MB · 0 downloads

Thanks!!

Eva's list above (from May) includes "4. Print copies of your Rental agreement, House book & Landlords ID."

My landlord is a large company (based in BKK) and I don't see how I could get an ID (I suspect there are multiple owners and anyway I have no contact with them, just the local manager).  I do have the lease and house book.  Do I really need the ID?  

2 hours ago, phetphet said:

I have picked up a couple of Samui specific TM.7's and TM.8's. Scanned them into my computer as .pdfs, completed and printed them off. I have to renew my Non O retirement extension this week, so will see if they will accept them. Or not. Will take hand  written ones along. Just to be sure.

Great idea.  I'm on Koh Phangan and will be going to Samui soon to apply.  So I can't get the forms in advance. Would you mind posting your pdf versions (the blank ones of course) here so I and others could download them? ????

Is the Samui office requiring a Form TM27 to be filed when you change your residence to this province? I recently moved from BKK to Koh Phangan.   

2 hours ago, lom said:

They require a copy of the house book signed by the house master (owner of the house) who has given you the lease.

 

Thanks.  Do you know what happens if it is a large condo building or similar development?  Can a staff member sign for the company that is the owner?

I see it in the list but do they definitely require a copy of the household book as well as the lease?  I have the lease but might have a trouble getting the book. 

Please update re bank documents (for retirement extension in Samui, using the B800K deposit method).  I know we need a copy of a bank book showing the required deposits throughout the year and also a bank letter saying we have B800K as of the date (or shortly before) of applying for the extension.  Questions:

1.  How many days ahead of applying can the bank letter be dated?

2.  What about an additional bank statement for the entire preceding year, as some offices are apparently requiring.  Does Samui require it now?

21 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

If you did not visit IO to inform them that you have relocated to a new address, there is no way for them to know that.  So in that case, it should still work to do your 90-day reporting on-line.

When you relocated to a different province, you would however be faced with the problem that any in person applications need to be done at the IO where you are officially registered which might be inconvenient.

In my case I have just moved to a new province and so a TM30 will be filed with the new address.   My next 90 day report is due in February (as is my OA retirement extension).  Since the TM30 will put my new address in the system, the question is whether the online 90 day reporting app will reject my next report because it's never seen a 90 day report with that new address. If so, I'll have to file it in person when I go to do my extension but it would be more convenient if I could take care of it online.  That way I could go earlier to do my extension since they allow more lead time for that.

I think I've heard that if you change your address, reporting online will not work.  You have to first do one in-person report with the new address, then going forward you can report online.  Is that true?

1 hour ago, khunPer said:

Your 90-days report are always reset when having an extension of stay at Samui Immigration; unlike most other places, where it, according to Thaivisa forum-posters, runs independently of extensions of stay.

 

You can easily do online reporting by web or app, link HERE.

 

That's interesting about the reset, yes BKK is not like that.  About online:  I've been doing that in BKK, but I think I've heard that if you try to do an online 90 day report from a new address, it doesn't work.  You have to do an in-person 90 day report with the new address, then it's in the system and you can do it online after that.  Is that correct?

On 12/21/2020 at 10:22 PM, evadgib said:

Up to 45 days in advance has worked there in the past but they can be a bit uppity (& there's nothing stopping them) if they're swamped (ie Songkran etc in normal years).

Thanks, what about the 90 day in-person report?  In BKK could come 15 days early until 7 days late.  Same in Samui?  I'd like to do both that and the extension in one visit.

How many days in advance of expiry can you apply in Samui for an extension of stay based on non-OA (retirement) visa?

20 hours ago, khunPer said:

When staying on Phangan you will still need to use the Samui Immigration, and you might need two trips over for an extension of stay; one for application, and one more for later collecting your passport and be photographed. It might save you some daylong excursions to Samui to stay here, until you get your extension of stay sorted out.

Thanks for the suggestion.   Any idea how the Surat Thani office compares with Samui? Do they too require a lease and a return trip to pick up passport, etc?