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That would be debatable.

The 60 days is an extension and an extension ends when the reason for that extension no longer exists, in essence the marriage.

If there are children from the marriage, it would not be a problem as the person continues to visit the children. But if there are no children and it is only the wife then the reason would no longer exist.

There are exceptions to this. if one is widowed, the extension is not invalidated until next expiration. I think that is indicated on the application forms but not on official regulations.

Also one should consider that no automatic information flows from the Amphur where a marriage is done or dissolved, to the Immigration office. It is only individual responsibility.

Still it would be a gamble wouldn't it?

A 60 day extension would not go away when he gets divorced.

There is no one week unless you apply for a 7 day extension.

Just to confirm, so with a Non-O visa and a 2 months extension (which application his wife co-signed at the immigration office) will still be valid after the divorce? Is that correct?

Thank you for replying. He has got a two months extension. Does he have to do a visa run right away, because I heard you can get a week before you need to do that or is that hogwash?

A friend of mine is in a bind. He and his wife decided all of the sudden to split up. He needs to stay for a while to take care of things but his wife wants a speedy divorce.

Does he have to do a visa run or can he stay here on the Non-o until it expires?

Appreciate the input.

For IV sedation i think you can only have that done at the dental department in hospitals but i know some stand alone dental facilities that give gas sedation.

I went to the dentist where i got upper and lower custom made whitening trays and tubes of whitening gel, Zoom speed something dont really remember. I had to wear those for a few hours every day and after a week my teeth started to get much whiter. pretty good result but my teeth were very sensitive during those 7 days and a few days afterward.

Oh? You base that assumption on what? And you simply forgot them?

Come on rubl, even the reforms that they promised 2006 never came into effect so why should this be any different? And don't say it's not the same forces behind the reforms because you know too well it is.

People will make a noise if promises that were made are not fulfilled that's the whole point with party system. But thanks to a few, people will not have their voices heard and you can see the censoring soon will surpass any implementation previous prime ministers have made in the past.

Economy is going down the drain, diplomacy is virtually non-existent due the fact that not a lot of countries want to do business with self-empowered people (unless they really have to), the handling of Koh Tao is doing the acting PM no favors and you're still sitting here hoping for reforms that don't even exist.

Calm down, my dear chap. It's not the end of the world if also you cannot list the reforms the PDRC was campaigning for late 2013 - early 2014. After all it's a year ago already and much has happened since. Now we have the NRC with it's committees working on named reforms, trying to get input, streamline procedures, etc., etc.

Now that's good assuming sufficient people give their input. At least there is a continued realisation that reforms must be held before an election, but we knew that already nine months ago.

http://nsnbc.me/2014/03/29/thailand-one-million-march-for-reform-as-chamber-of-commerce-calls-on-yingluck-to-step-down/

I've fixed that for you," Now that's good assuming sufficient people are allowed to give their input"

Pity really that some had stated to stay far away from the NRC activities, not even trying.

"The country's two largest political parties, as well as the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), will likely not nominate anyone from their organisations as candidates for the junta-selected National Reform Council (NRC). "

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Big-political-parties-PDRC-steer-clear-of-reform-c-30240106.html

Your attempt to condescending failed as much as your attempt to provide list of reforms suggested by the PDRC, not only that but also which ones that have been put into effect. As usual dear chap, you are in over your head and cannot back up your statements.

Ahhh, the Mandela of the East will return.

The similarities between the 2 are uncanny.

Except of course Suthep was never responsible for 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns killing innocent men, women and children. That was the job of the UDD.

I look forward to Suthep's return and just like Mandela I am sure he will be viewed upon as a bridge that led to democracy.

He was a man whose followers were the victims of violence by the UDD who brought death and carnage to the streets, all with the full backing of the PTP. For the majority to continue to follow him after they knew their lives where at risk from terrorists that acted with impunity it shows a rare magnetism to this man though I do admit the ethos that they adhered to played a big role in this. That ethos being a love for democracy and knowing that a democratically elected government full of undemocratics is not democracy.

Good luck Suthep.

Lovely trolling as usual djjamie.

Your inability articulate a constructive rebuttal only strengthens my comments and highlights the fact that I am correct.

Was Suthep responsible for 156 acts of public violence?

No.

He was a man whose followers were the victims of violence by the UDD who brought death and carnage to the streets

Of the 28 deaths and 700 odd injuries to terrorist attacks the UDD were responsible for the overwhelming majority? (not a 43% majority mind you) That's a fact unless you still believe in the invisible third hand.

all with the full backing of the PTP.

How many terrorists were arrested that committed the over 200 attacks against the protestors? None from memory. Of course the popcorn gunman was efficiently arrested. So UDD backed terrorist activity arrests - 0%. PDRC backed terrorist activity arrests - 100% Remember a principle of democracy is equal protection under the law (yes, yes yingluck was elected)

It seems that facts over beliefs back up my statements.

How ironic since you haven't been able to do a rebuttal several threads ago and keep spewing the indoctrination mantra over and over again. Fresh out of ideas perhaps?

Ahhh, the Mandela of the East will return.

The similarities between the 2 are uncanny.

Except of course Suthep was never responsible for 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns killing innocent men, women and children. That was the job of the UDD.

I look forward to Suthep's return and just like Mandela I am sure he will be viewed upon as a bridge that led to democracy.

He was a man whose followers were the victims of violence by the UDD who brought death and carnage to the streets, all with the full backing of the PTP. For the majority to continue to follow him after they knew their lives where at risk from terrorists that acted with impunity it shows a rare magnetism to this man though I do admit the ethos that they adhered to played a big role in this. That ethos being a love for democracy and knowing that a democratically elected government full of undemocratics is not democracy.

Good luck Suthep.

Lovely trolling as usual djjamie.

Now back to the topic we have

"foundation would push for the reforms that the PDRC was campaigning for in its Bangkok street protests last year"

If I remember correctly the PDRC didn't get much further than demanding reforms, start with a framework for defining and implementing reforms, but nothing really tangible. They couldn't either of course. Had they published a 1,500 page book "Reforms for Dummies" we'd still get the flak from certain posters.

So I think Akanat should help us and list again those reforms they were campaigning for.

They would have if that was part of their agenda but even you know better.

Luckily they didn't since the involvement of the Thai population was required. Even just asking for reforms already gave them enough flak to last a lifetime.

Anyway, you just started here so you probably didn't even hear those reforms they were campaigning for whereas I only simply forgot them

Come on rubl, even the reforms that they promised 2006 never came into effect so why should this be any different? And don't say it's not the same forces behind the reforms because you know too well it is.

People will make a noise if promises that were made are not fulfilled that's the whole point with party system. But thanks to a few, people will not have their voices heard and you can see the censoring soon will surpass any implementation previous prime ministers have made in the past.

Economy is going down the drain, diplomacy is virtually non-existent due the fact that not a lot of countries want to do business with self-empowered people (unless they really have to), the handling of Koh Tao is doing the acting PM no favors and you're still sitting here hoping for reforms that don't even exist.

Now back to the topic we have

"foundation would push for the reforms that the PDRC was campaigning for in its Bangkok street protests last year"

If I remember correctly the PDRC didn't get much further than demanding reforms, start with a framework for defining and implementing reforms, but nothing really tangible. They couldn't either of course. Had they published a 1,500 page book "Reforms for Dummies" we'd still get the flak from certain posters.

So I think Akanat should help us and list again those reforms they were campaigning for.

They would have if that was part of their agenda but even you know better.

One senses a lack of Suthepistas on here defending their honorable leaders intentions. You cant really defend a man who , amongst others, conspires to cause the downfall of a democratically elected government by bringing death and carnage to the streets, all with the full backing of the current military Junta. 'Good Men' is what he called for.

Death and carnage was brought by the reds they even killed kids and its all proven. Its also proven on video that they applauded at the deaths of their opponents untill Tiday who was smart enough (rare thing for a redshirt) to see the public relations disaster curbed the cheering.

Next time get your facts straight.

Not defending Suthep here.. he was a means to an end, he did well in disposing of a corrupt government. If he is corrupt put him in jail just like any other criminal.

Both sides caused death and mayhem but unfortunately for some, only one side was elected. The protests were nothing but a funded pity-party made by a bunch of self-obsessed elites who either didn't get part of the take or want to escape blame by pinning it on the other side.

If their supreme leader is anything to go by they are full of BS.

No coup I don't want to be PM yet all the ploting with suthep.

Power that's what it's all about and stuff the people.

Much like the bullshit from Yingluck that she was the de facto PM and not her brother, or that there was no promlems with the rice programs, or we PROMISE to pay the rice farmers next Monday.

That sort of thing do you mean?

Ahh... So two wrongs make one right.

So how is this administration any better than the previous one. Wasn't that the point of the coup anyway, to replace a corrupt government with a less one?

Your whole argument is moot as usual.

And this a surprise?

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Costas where are you??

We need (another) good laugh!!

Actually JOC you win the 2014 awards for:

- Negative on absolutely everything associated with taking Thailand forward

Now that's an interesting point coming from a supporter of autocracy.

Pipkins ? Is that you ?

Why? Who's asking? Whybother?

Got the word 'loser' tattooed on their foreheads... Seriously.

There is a new generation of Thais coming.

Oh I've read it and all I can say is good luck. The question is not if it's in the teaching curriculum but if they actually going to teach it. Haven't seen it so far.

But you can go on hoping buddy

The old fuddy duddies are retiring. Young teachers are different. There are increasingly less oldies with the Chinese philosophy of keeping the kids stupid.

Too many oldies here moaning and doing nothing to help the revolution.

No they have to follow certain codes as well, please do remember they still have 'poo yao' culture here but as I said you can always hope.

Well, it took me a day to recall the Quintessence of Thainess... and for me, it's:

Say "Yes" and do "No"

As with all issues of Thainess, "practicality" is first and foremost...

and I've learned a lot of "practicality" while living here, to the degree that I have no qualms in performing this act myself, now, that is... Saying "Yes." and doing "No."

...and not even thinking twice about it, anymore.

Not saying it's "right" per se, but it DOES make living here easier...

Thainess is quite clear for Thai teachers. It is about teaching about morals, environmental issues(particularly the King's Self Sufficiency project), how to think critically, commitment to work etc The current Junta has implemented a whole new subject, to be taught at all school, of which Thainess is a part.

Currently, Thainess is lacking in Thai society, and most of the country want it back - hence the new school subject and of course the 12 core values that students hear daily.

And you think critical thinking will be a part of that teaching?

It is. I can provide a link if you wish and can read Thai? Actually look at one of my previous posts on this thread.

There is a new generation of Thais coming.

But you can go on hoping buddy

The biggest mistake would be to hand the country back

to politicians too soon,as it will just revert back to violence ,

and political bickering,if something had not been done,the

country was looking at civil war.and what we have now is

a lot better than that scenario,

regards Worgeordie

It will be violent BECAUSE they took it from the people. Doesn't matter if the former party was an incompetent lot.

Tell me which party hasn't screwed their voters over.

No what is likely that sooner or later they will begin another cycle of this bickering.

Well, it took me a day to recall the Quintessence of Thainess... and for me, it's:

Say "Yes" and do "No"

As with all issues of Thainess, "practicality" is first and foremost...

and I've learned a lot of "practicality" while living here, to the degree that I have no qualms in performing this act myself, now, that is... Saying "Yes." and doing "No."

...and not even thinking twice about it, anymore.

Not saying it's "right" per se, but it DOES make living here easier...

Thainess is quite clear for Thai teachers. It is about teaching about morals, environmental issues(particularly the King's Self Sufficiency project), how to think critically, commitment to work etc The current Junta has implemented a whole new subject, to be taught at all school, of which Thainess is a part.

Currently, Thainess is lacking in Thai society, and most of the country want it back - hence the new school subject and of course the 12 core values that students hear daily.

And you think critical thinking will be a part of that teaching?

At least there is no more political protest, no violence, consumer confidence higher than ever and business getting better which Abihisit and Ying Luck can't achieve.

One. I doubt those outside of Bangkok have consumer confidence. Regardless of the faults of the rice pleadge, farmers are not happy with rice prices today, and they will pay for big projects in the future.

Two, Consumer confidence is not an excuse for quashing freedoms and deposing an elected government.

Your silver lining is nothing less than frivolous

You are WRONG!! I travel a lot to North Eastern of Thailand where my wife family home is. They are indeed very happy with the situation now. Although her parent is not farmer but they knew a lot Of farmers there and they are happy with the money they got from the current govt. Quashing freedom?? Bullshit, we all have full freedom now unless you are a criminal or some corrupted politicians then u felt your freedom have been quashed. Thailand is not really for an elected government until they are all educated that accepting money to vote for someone is wrong. Suit yourself, not happy just leave

OMG

Here comes the "education" before allowed to vote BS excuse again.

Perfect example of how messed up Thailand is when even supposedly the educated understand nothing about equality and freedoms. It begins with an equal voice and a vote and a lot of hard work and determination to progress .... not a panic and coup every few years like petulant children.

As for the Money thing, dont even get me on the Generals, Police Chief millionaires on all sides, absolutely disgusting abuse of position. Corruption filters from the very pinnacle all the way down....you wont see other than those fallen from grace brought to account and in a few years itll be rinse and repeat again, coups are all Thailand know how to do.

May as well use that as an election system its about as regular anyway.

Look before you leap. Early election in the name of democracy will definitely destroy the country further. Went back to North Eastern, before any election happen previously every single registered voters especially the farmers received between 500 - 3000 baht each to buy their vote. Majority says, as long as they got money they willing to vote for anyone. This is the fact and my wife relatives told me that. It's been happening for quite awhile and it's nothing secret. However my wife not accepting the offer by not going back to vote bcos of the vote buying. In the village, if you don't accept the offer, people will know and is like you been marked.

Have you been to the south? Happens there as well, it's not a PTP thing, it's a Thai thing.

My father-in-law got even a 1000 baht for voting. This fine tradition has been going on for ages.

You are demographically isolated if you rely on information from just your wife and her relatives. And then you will get the ugly picture.

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Actually JOC you win the 2014 awards for:

- Negative on absolutely everything associated with taking Thailand forward

Now that's an interesting point coming from a supporter of autocracy.

You say autocracy, I say pragmatic given the scenario at hand.

Oh please, peace at any price. So willing to trade personal freedoms for oh so little security. This sort of spineless attitude from westerners totally mind boggling.

Would you rather the senseless slaughter of innocents on the streets continue? When is enough is enough?

Can you clarify"westerners"?

Are they people who live in westerns (in their minds only) as in cowboys, armed to the teeth and kill anyone in a showdown in the main street?

Redneck US citizens who worship Bill O'Reilly? or Glenn Beck? The good ol boys?

Or people who realise that in some countries there is a balance between rights and responsibilities to maintain a functioning society?

Poor reply to a straight up question. But we don't deal with those now do we?

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Costas where are you??

We need (another) good laugh!!

Actually JOC you win the 2014 awards for:

- Negative on absolutely everything associated with taking Thailand forward

Now that's an interesting point coming from a supporter of autocracy.

You say autocracy, I say pragmatic given the scenario at hand.

Oh so we change definitions when it suit us? Or just when it comes to Thailand?

What you expect from one who has a hand in the coup to say.....

"Next time, my turn" perhaps...

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Costas where are you??

We need (another) good laugh!!

Actually JOC you win the 2014 awards for:

- Negative on absolutely everything associated with taking Thailand forward