maxme

Didn't I give my answer a page or two ago? I said not much, but does not justify the coup nor does it make the acting PM a smarter person. Even his advisors have problems with finding the right words. You don't have to like the elected and more than one can count do the elected screw the voters over without any remorse and that's why we have elections. To weed out those we don't want in power.

What is stated in the democratic constitution never becomes a political reality but the rules are there for a reason or next time we might just let the UDD do the next coup, because if one is allowed why isn't the other part allowed the same kind of tactics?

Your side has adopted the fallable logic that the end justifies the means. But there the coin has two sides and once you flip that coin and it makes to the ground there is a fifty fifty percent chance it will show either heads or tails, not always the side you want it to show.

Your statement was "The current administration is as corrupt if not worse than the previous one."

And the question was "What evidence is there that the current administration is worse than the previous one?"

Can you please help me and point out where you answered that question?

Illegitimately seized power, invoked hard-line censor rules, in one swift move tanked the economy which is declining by the minute.

Dubious connections to the PRDC (and Koh Tao if one can read between the lines)

Putting words in the mouths of foreign state heads.

Creating a xenophobic society which basically lives on foreign investment and tourism.

He and his kin is basically sinking the country into a pit it will never get out of.

Want more?

God Mikemac, I took you for a smarter one. Read through my posts. Where did I defend her and stop deflecting. The current administration is as corrupt if not worse than the previous one. I hate to think any westerner that have enjoyed the freedom and privilegies of democracy would support autocracy.

What evidence is there that the current administration is worse than the previous one?

No, it's as usual a deflection and misinterpretation of my post. Either answer the question of my original post or move forward. If you wisely decide to answer my question, I will give you my response whybother.

Above is the first post that I asked the question of you. There is no question from you in that post. Only later did you ask questions about things that I never stated in the first place. And I have responded to those questions already.

"I have never said this administration deserves a medal. Just as I have never said the current administration did anything to top the previous administration. I also never said the previous administration is the worst to date."

So, to assist me, please tell me what question I should answer.

What is stated in the democratic constitution never becomes a political reality but the rules are there for a reason or next time we might just let the UDD do the next coup, because if one is allowed why isn't the other part allowed the same kind of tactics?

Your side has adopted the fallable logic that the end justifies the means. But there the coin has two sides and once you flip that coin and it makes to the ground there is a fifty fifty percent chance it will show either heads or tails, not always the side you want it to show.

Neither do you. You avoid questions by attacking the previoud administration instead. So are you you suggesting we should start our own club?

We're not in the same club. We are not even in the same league.

You keep asking me to back up things that I haven't stated. As I said before, please point me to a statement that I have made that I haven't backed up with evidence.

You haven't even been able to answer that question.

Continue that loop. Has done you well in the past. I take this as, like Ramet, you don't wish to continue this discussion. Ok then.

Sorry about before rubl. Iphone does make a holy mess of the quotes.

And once again both avoiding answering my first question to provide evidence that this government is more corrupt than the previous one, and showing any of my statements that I haven't backed up.

I want to continue, but you just keep side stepping.

No, it's as usual a deflection and misinterpretation of my post. Either answer the question of my original post or move forward. If you wisely decide to answer my question, I will give you my response whybother.

Neither do you. You avoid questions by attacking the previoud administration instead. So are you you suggesting we should start our own club?

We're not in the same club. We are not even in the same league.

You keep asking me to back up things that I haven't stated. As I said before, please point me to a statement that I have made that I haven't backed up with evidence.

You haven't even been able to answer that question.

Sorry about before rubl. Iphone does make a holy mess of the quotes.

and since during the last censure debate Ms. Yingluck stated in parliament that she and only she was in charge of her cabinet, and her government came up with the RPPS, I guess that the topic "people behind rice scheme will be sued to cover losses" means Ms. Yingluck will be asked for a donation.

Which in your world, outside the western hemisphere, justifies a coup.

Which in my view justifies the suing of people involved in the rice scam the moment the administrative or criminal court has ruled on either negligence or more criminal charges.

Leekpai's legacy has moved on to Suthep who continued in the same tradition long before Yingluck came into the picture. No complaints there but that wouldn't fit the Anti-Thaksin thumping brigade's M.O now would it?

Obviously you don't want to discuss the topic which is "people behind rice scheme will be sued for losses".

The point got lost several pages ago yet it remains that a lot of the kanbon and ampeurs that gladly accepted and swindled this money were partly democrats.

Yet you head a 'blame only PTP' march and tbh those kind of tirades are not only boring but quite uninformative as you don't have evidence to back those statements up.

All involved in this mess should be prosecuted but you know as well as I do that won't happen

Leekpai's legacy has moved on to Suthep who continued in the same tradition long before Yingluck came into the picture. No complaints there but that wouldn't fit the Anti-Thaksin thumping brigade's M.O now would it?

Obviously you don't want to discuss the topic which is "people behind rice scheme will be sued for losses".

He doesn't want to back up his statements with evidence either.

Neither do you. You avoid questions by attacking the previoud administration instead. So are you you suggesting we should start our own club?

No, you keep hi-jacking the posts as that question wasn't directed at you but at ramet. Once he bugged out, the pro-coup supporters started to surface and circle the thread.

You can spin it all you want and if you don't want to answer that question, you don't have to. But I will take one question at a time because if I get into this with you, you will pull your usual spin on this and ask what Thaksin has done better when I'm not remotely interested in that topic nor was it aimed at that topic either.

You made a statement. I asked you to back it up with evidence. If you don't want other posters to comment on your posts, maybe you should use PMs instead.

I am not spinning anything. Since I didn't compare this government to previous governments I don't need to back anything up.

And you go and deflect again! Where did I ask you what Thaksin had done better?

It seems you will take one question at a time and keep avoiding it.

If you can't back up a statement, maybe you shouldn't say it.

This coming from one who hasn't backed up a single one of his statements when asked to do so. Nice deflection, I take it you can't answer the question then

What statement have I made? Link to where I have made a statement and I will back it up.

Here's a statement. Anyone who sides with the PT in the rice scam is someone who has reached into his skull and twisted his brain into the shape of a pretzel and then repeatedly stabbed it with a fork. To back it up I can use any post of maxme.

Oh is that right? Good luck on that little master.

I don't need luck I just need you to keep on posting.

Whatever you say son

I would think the fact that she won the last election qualified her to be PMIn a democracy that is all that is required. The general is therefore not qualified.

and since during the last censure debate Ms. Yingluck stated in parliament that she and only she was in charge of her cabinet, and her government came up with the RPPS, I guess that the topic "people behind rice scheme will be sued to cover losses" means Ms. Yingluck will be asked for a donation.

Which in your world, outside the western hemisphere, justifies a coup.

Which in my view justifies the suing of people involved in the rice scam the moment the administrative or criminal court has ruled on either negligence or more criminal charges.

Leekpai's legacy has moved on to Suthep who continued in the same tradition long before Yingluck came into the picture. No complaints there but that wouldn't fit the Anti-Thaksin thumping brigade's M.O now would it?

No, you keep hi-jacking the posts as that question wasn't directed at you but at ramet. Once he bugged out, the pro-coup supporters started to surface and circle the thread.

You can spin it all you want and if you don't want to answer that question, you don't have to. But I will take one question at a time because if I get into this with you, you will pull your usual spin on this and ask what Thaksin has done better when I'm not remotely interested in that topic nor was it aimed at that topic either.

You made a statement. I asked you to back it up with evidence. If you don't want other posters to comment on your posts, maybe you should use PMs instead.

I am not spinning anything. Since I didn't compare this government to previous governments I don't need to back anything up.

And you go and deflect again! Where did I ask you what Thaksin had done better?

It seems you will take one question at a time and keep avoiding it.

If you can't back up a statement, maybe you shouldn't say it.

This coming from one who hasn't backed up a single one of his statements when asked to do so. Nice deflection, I take it you can't answer the question then

What statement have I made? Link to where I have made a statement and I will back it up.

Here's a statement. Anyone who sides with the PT in the rice scam is someone who has reached into his skull and twisted his brain into the shape of a pretzel and then repeatedly stabbed it with a fork. To back it up I can use any post of maxme.

Oh is that right? Good luck on that little master.

No, you keep hi-jacking the posts as that question wasn't directed at you but at ramet. Once he bugged out, the pro-coup supporters started to surface and circle the thread.

You can spin it all you want and if you don't want to answer that question, you don't have to. But I will take one question at a time because if I get into this with you, you will pull your usual spin on this and ask what Thaksin has done better when I'm not remotely interested in that topic nor was it aimed at that topic either.

You made a statement. I asked you to back it up with evidence. If you don't want other posters to comment on your posts, maybe you should use PMs instead.

I am not spinning anything. Since I didn't compare this government to previous governments I don't need to back anything up.

And you go and deflect again! Where did I ask you what Thaksin had done better?

It seems you will take one question at a time and keep avoiding it.

If you can't back up a statement, maybe you shouldn't say it.

This coming from one who hasn't backed up a single one of his statements when asked to do so. Nice deflection, I take it you can't answer the question then

Nice spinning I asked first. And don't copy and paste rametindallas' mantra. Tell me with your own words.

Again, what has this administration done to deserve a medal?

Now why would someone ask such a irrelevant question? Why would a government need to do something which deserves a medal? Is there any country where recently the government deserved a medal (apart from Australia of course if I understand Fred Fl. correctly) ?

Irrelevant... In the eye of beholder I guess. You and your sort, engage in slandering, statements with no evidence to back it up and misogynist remarks at the former PM.

I'm no fan of Yingluck but did she deserve all that crap while the new council's mouthpiece gets praised. What exactly has he done besides copying programs he and his group labeled as populist propaganda?

Thailand was infamous before but hit a new low with his remarks and blatant lies. Not to talk about the economy will take an even further dive due to his current and future programs.

You wanna talk relevance rubl? Put your money where your mouth is. Tall about what urgently needs to be done instead of throwing insults at one party.

The rice scheme despite being initiated by the PTP was deemed to fail on all levels as the Thai political structure is rotten to the core. And many of the democrats are on these levels so start thinking like you were taught in school... Independently and objectively instead of following the flock of sheep towards the cliff, because sooner or later it is what it's heading.

What new question?

I have asked the same question all along.

You said "The current government is more corrupt than the previous one".

I have continued to ask the same question. Where is the evidence to back up that statement?

Nice spinning I asked first. And don't copy and paste rametindallas' mantra. Tell me with your own words.

Again, what has this administration done to deserve a medal?

Actually, I asked you first. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/785527-people-behind-rice-scheme-will-be-sued-to-cover-losses-prayut-says/?p=8829854

I have never said this administration deserves a medal. Just as I have never said the current administration did anything to top the previous administration (your first question to me after I asked you to back up your statement). I also never said the previous administration is the worst to date (your second question to me).

You keep asking me to prove things that I have never said. You keep avoiding showing anything to prove what you've said.

But fine, if you can't give any evidence that this administration is more corrupt than the previous one, I'll just have to take it that they're not.

No, you keep hi-jacking the posts as that question wasn't directed at you but at ramet. Once he bugged out, the pro-coup supporters started to surface and circle the thread.

You can spin it all you want and if you don't want to answer that question, you don't have to. But I will take one question at a time because if I get into this with you, you will pull your usual spin on this and ask what Thaksin has done better when I'm not remotely interested in that topic nor was it aimed at that topic either.

A long and seemingly pointless run around post to avoid answering the question. And you do not to lecture me about Thaksin as this topic has been stretched out to the breaking point. Instead answer this simple question. What has this administration done to deserve a medal compared to the previous administrations? Is it that hard to understand?

A lot of yellow sympathizers are disappointed with the current regime so it's OK for you to come clean as well. It is not what you expected, but if it is, pray tell, what that is.

"A long and seemingly pointless run around post to avoid answering the question. "

You should know about that. You still haven't answered my question.

Why on earth would I when you responded to my question with a new question. Nice spinning.

What new question?

I have asked the same question all along.

You said "The current government is more corrupt than the previous one".

I have continued to ask the same question. Where is the evidence to back up that statement?

Nice spinning I asked first. And don't copy and paste rametindallas' mantra. Tell me with your own words.

Again, what has this administration done to deserve a medal?

A long and seemingly pointless run around post to avoid answering the question. And you do not to lecture me about Thaksin as this topic has been stretched out to the breaking point. Instead answer this simple question. What has this administration done to deserve a medal compared to the previous administrations? Is it that hard to understand?

A lot of yellow sympathizers are disappointed with the current regime so it's OK for you to come clean as well. It is not what you expected, but if it is, pray tell, what that is.

"A long and seemingly pointless run around post to avoid answering the question. "

You should know about that. You still haven't answered my question.

Why on earth would I when you responded to my question with a new question. Nice spinning.

Ah, the self appointed intellectual. No one can comment on your posts as there just oh so clever, Yeah right, whatever, if it makes you happy.

Your initial response was good, apart from where you feel obliged to label him a yellow leaner to legitimize your comments in your mind.

The fact is Thaksin was a policeman who made billions via establishing monopolies that took full advantage of their being no allowed competition, changing laws to suit himself, ignoring laws he considered inappropriate, putting family, friends and cronies into key roles, regardless of skill, knowledge or suitability etc and even lending taxpayers money at low interest to another country so they could buy products from his family businesses. The massacres in the south, war on drugs and disappearance of activists and political opponents are grey areas that have never been fully probed. All this from a guy with a PhD in law. His sister was simply a sibling and as such a cog in the family clan mechanism. A Master's graduate from a USA university but sadly must've forgotten all her English language skills. No real work experience accept for Big Brother where everyone would always do whatever she said. Great credentials for running the country, although they have grown the family wealth 450% during her time in office.

A career senior military officer - can only run the country as he would the army. If any sense he will gather an expert team based on skill, knowledge and experience, not family name, connections or nepotism and cronyism. Things are still somewhat up in the air, with reforms, committees, martial law, reform of the RTP etc etc. We shall see after that.

How many successful leaders, presidents, prime ministers, chief ministers, chancellors or whatever title, have had degrees in political sciences, economics etc? What other education do you consider necessary?

Look at business as a similie - were all the leaders of the current most successful companies in possession of MBA's, business degrees, doctorates etc?

The reality is only history will judge based on performance and result.

A long and seemingly pointless run around post to avoid answering the question. And you do not to lecture me about Thaksin as this topic has been stretched out to the breaking point. Instead answer this simple question. What has this administration done to deserve a medal compared to the previous administrations? Is it that hard to understand?

A lot of yellow sympathizers are disappointed with the current regime so it's OK for you to come clean as well. It is not what you expected, but if it is, pray tell, what that is.

"Instead answer this simple question. What has this administration done to deserve a medal compared to the previous administrations?"

1. Paid the farmers

2. Stopped the RPPS

3. Made the 'Hunger Games' popular

I concede.

If this happens in the next five years, it will be the dawn of a new era in Thailand. That insiders and backhanders and crooked politicians will be held financially responsible for the losses they cost/caused is a pipe dream. I think the good PM is starting to believe his on rhetoric. I continue hope for the best and expect the worse and am rarely disappointed.

Good grief, even blind people have better perception of how Thai politics works than the junta goon squad. One of the reasons I've avoided you is that you are not exactly color blind and leans too much towards the yellow. But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

By your standards, Barak Obama should not have gotten two term as POTUS because his education was constitutional law (good for becoming a judge) and he had zero business experience. On the other hand, Gen. Prayuth headed an organization (RTA) larger than any Thai company and one doesn't get to the top of such a large organization without having many talents. He has more executive experience than any other civilian PM excepting, possibly, Dr. Thaksin. The PM has shown and is showing that he is a man of action. He has wrung out some of the mafia that was exploiting the most vulnerable Thais. He had the head policeman arrested for exploiting vendors at Patpong, another head policeman arrested for exploiting vendors at Hualumpong, cracked down on the taxi mafia, the motorcycle taxi mafia, beach mafia, the airport mafia, replacing politically appointed leadership in the Royal Thai Police, replacing politically appointed board members on government/private enterprises, ongoing and productive crackdown on national forest (owned by all Thais) encroachment, arrest of the hideously corrupt head of CIB and his gang, moving forward with Thailand getting its first international double-tracked freight system (even if it's from China, it's better that what is here now), made peace with all the 'democratic' nations and even received expressions of 'understanding of his situation' from many. And, for the things he hasn't done, he hasn't; persecuted any of the Thaksin backed UDD leadership, businesses that were supportive of the PTP regime, any former PTP politicians, or anyone else. He has not caused any undue discord. I could go on but you see, now, why he is so popular in national polls (even in the NE). I notice all your post never respond directly points being made by the posters that you respond to, but you seem to assign motive to them and then attack them for the motive you put on them. I wish you would respond with real debate (and stay focused on the post you are responding to) instead of ad hominem attacks.

Please edit your post as it's a holy mess to read.

That being said, you just re-posted what was promised by Prayut, in the newspapers. Nothing that had been taken seriously by the public or the administration itself.

So with his skillful talents as head of state his greatest achievement was pissing off a few taxi drivers? Because as far as I've seen this hasn't really been put into effect.

How about corruption in the military, has that been dealt with? This former general couldn't and can't protect the people in the south, couldn't even protect the capital even from being hi-jacked by the reds or the yellow (and obviously didn't care when the PAD took the airport or when they shut down the city).

Seriously of what use is the military if it's not skimming state funds.

Could it be his eloquent public speaking skills you are referring to perhaps? Or his excellent diplomatic skills?

Yingluck was incompetent but at least she didn't lie of promised being made by the heads of foreign states.

Heck, at this point even Abhisit would have been a better choice despite his dubious connections.

Speaking of attacking posters, you shouldn't try to claim moral high ground as you have deflected criticism on several threads by labeling posters as "Yingluck and Thaksin suck-ups and red sympathizers."

Not exactly in a position to judge other posters because as I've mentioned earlier, this makes you lool even more as a hypocrite.

I hope you don't consider any of your post as some sort of coherent debate.

More coherent than the indoctrinated drivel coming from you my friend.

If this happens in the next five years, it will be the dawn of a new era in Thailand. That insiders and backhanders and crooked politicians will be held financially responsible for the losses they cost/caused is a pipe dream. I think the good PM is starting to believe his on rhetoric. I continue hope for the best and expect the worse and am rarely disappointed.

Good grief, even blind people have better perception of how Thai politics works than the junta goon squad. One of the reasons I've avoided you is that you are not exactly color blind and leans too much towards the yellow. But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

By your standards, Barak Obama should not have gotten two term as POTUS because his education was constitutional law (good for becoming a judge) and he had zero business experience. On the other hand, Gen. Prayuth headed an organization (RTA) larger than any Thai company and one doesn't get to the top of such a large organization without having many talents. He has more executive experience than any other civilian PM excepting, possibly, Dr. Thaksin. The PM has shown and is showing that he is a man of action. He has wrung out some of the mafia that was exploiting the most vulnerable Thais. He had the head policeman arrested for exploiting vendors at Patpong, another head policeman arrested for exploiting vendors at Hualumpong, cracked down on the taxi mafia, the motorcycle taxi mafia, beach mafia, the airport mafia, replacing politically appointed leadership in the Royal Thai Police, replacing politically appointed board members on government/private enterprises, ongoing and productive crackdown on national forest (owned by all Thais) encroachment, arrest of the hideously corrupt head of CIB and his gang, moving forward with Thailand getting its first international double-tracked freight system (even if it's from China, it's better that what is here now), made peace with all the 'democratic' nations and even received expressions of 'understanding of his situation' from many. And, for the things he hasn't done, he hasn't; persecuted any of the Thaksin backed UDD leadership, businesses that were supportive of the PTP regime, any former PTP politicians, or anyone else. He has not caused any undue discord. I could go on but you see, now, why he is so popular in national polls (even in the NE). I notice all your post never respond directly points being made by the posters that you respond to, but you seem to assign motive to them and then attack them for the motive you put on them. I wish you would respond with real debate (and stay focused on the post you are responding to) instead of ad hominem attacks.

That being said, you just re-posted what was promised by Prayut, in the newspapers. Nothing that had been taken seriously by the public or the administration itself.

So with his skillful talents as head of state his greatest achievement was pissing off a few taxi drivers? Because as far as I've seen this hasn't really been put into effect.

How about corruption in the military, has that been dealt with? This former general couldn't and can't protect the people in the south, couldn't even protect the capital even from being hi-jacked by the reds or the yellow (and obviously didn't care when the PAD took the airport or when they shut down the city).

Seriously of what use is the military if it's not skimming state funds.

Could it be his eloquent public speaking skills you are referring to perhaps? Or his excellent diplomatic skills?

Yingluck was incompetent but at least she didn't lie of promised being made by the heads of foreign states.

Heck, at this point even Abhisit would have been a better choice despite his dubious connections.

Speaking of attacking posters, you shouldn't try to claim moral high ground as you have deflected criticism on several threads by labeling posters as "Yingluck and Thaksin suck-ups and red sympathizers."

Not exactly in a position to judge other posters because as I've mentioned earlier, this makes you lool even more as a hypocrite.

If this happens in the next five years, it will be the dawn of a new era in Thailand. That insiders and backhanders and crooked politicians will be held financially responsible for the losses they cost/caused is a pipe dream. I think the good PM is starting to believe his on rhetoric. I continue hope for the best and expect the worse and am rarely disappointed.

Good grief, even blind people have better perception of how Thai politics works than the junta goon squad. One of the reasons I've avoided you is that you are not exactly color blind and leans too much towards the yellow. But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

Could you please explain to me therefore exactly what qualifications Yingluck had to run a country.

If you think that she ran a big company you must be joking. It was her brothers company and nepotism was rife.

For instance Motorola phones could only be bought through another Thaksin owned company run by another sister.

Thaksin does not and never did believe in competition.

Mundane debate with people stuck in a geopolitical limbo, reciting friends' and spouses' dogmatic mantras.

Re-read the posts and then come back to me when you grasp it.

Ah, the self appointed intellectual. No one can comment on your posts as there just oh so clever, Yeah right, whatever, if it makes you happy.

Your initial response was good, apart from where you feel obliged to label him a yellow leaner to legitimize your comments in your mind.

The fact is Thaksin was a policeman who made billions via establishing monopolies that took full advantage of their being no allowed competition, changing laws to suit himself, ignoring laws he considered inappropriate, putting family, friends and cronies into key roles, regardless of skill, knowledge or suitability etc and even lending taxpayers money at low interest to another country so they could buy products from his family businesses. The massacres in the south, war on drugs and disappearance of activists and political opponents are grey areas that have never been fully probed. All this from a guy with a PhD in law. His sister was simply a sibling and as such a cog in the family clan mechanism. A Master's graduate from a USA university but sadly must've forgotten all her English language skills. No real work experience accept for Big Brother where everyone would always do whatever she said. Great credentials for running the country, although they have grown the family wealth 450% during her time in office.

A career senior military officer - can only run the country as he would the army. If any sense he will gather an expert team based on skill, knowledge and experience, not family name, connections or nepotism and cronyism. Things are still somewhat up in the air, with reforms, committees, martial law, reform of the RTP etc etc. We shall see after that.

How many successful leaders, presidents, prime ministers, chief ministers, chancellors or whatever title, have had degrees in political sciences, economics etc? What other education do you consider necessary?

Look at business as a similie - were all the leaders of the current most successful companies in possession of MBA's, business degrees, doctorates etc?

The reality is only history will judge based on performance and result.

A long and seemingly pointless run around post to avoid answering the question. And you do not to lecture me about Thaksin as this topic has been stretched out to the breaking point. Instead answer this simple question. What has this administration done to deserve a medal compared to the previous administrations? Is it that hard to understand?

A lot of yellow sympathizers are disappointed with the current regime so it's OK for you to come clean as well. It is not what you expected, but if it is, pray tell, what that is.

If this happens in the next five years, it will be the dawn of a new era in Thailand. That insiders and backhanders and crooked politicians will be held financially responsible for the losses they cost/caused is a pipe dream. I think the good PM is starting to believe his on rhetoric. I continue hope for the best and expect the worse and am rarely disappointed.

Good grief, even blind people have better perception of how Thai politics works than the junta goon squad. One of the reasons I've avoided you is that you are not exactly color blind and leans too much towards the yellow. But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

Could you please explain to me therefore exactly what qualifications Yingluck had to run a country.

If you think that she ran a big company you must be joking. It was her brothers company and nepotism was rife.

For instance Motorola phones could only be bought through another Thaksin owned company run by another sister.

Thaksin does not and never did believe in competition.

Re-read the posts and then come back to me when you grasp it.

Thanks StealthEnergizer for posting those news articles from early days in the investigation. People need to be reminded, in order to make a measured assessment of how the investigation has devolved. It was right after the taxi driver made his revelation (of payment-for-false-testimony), that the first head cop was replaced by the 2nd. Many concerned people thought the replacement head cop would be better,after seeing the blunderings of the initial head cop, but lo and hehold..... the replacement head cop was 10 times worse.

Right after the 2nd guy took the driver's seat, the B3 were arrested, and those who should have remained primes suspects, were dropped like a lead zeppelin. Then the amazingly quick DNA test results from B2 (one of the B dropped to become a side show), and the reenactment, which was as realistic as Mighty Mouse dropping Fat Boy on Hiroshima. Then Thai officialdom stepped back and hoped the frame-up would stick. It very obviously didn't, as there was uproar from every non-official quarter. However, the toothpaste was out of the tube, and Thai officialdom has had no choice but continue to goose-step down the muddy road they've created.

"and those who should have remained primes suspects, were dropped like a lead zeppelin"

How inconsiderate of them, to go after the people that the evidence pointed at instead of those you want to see punished because you just know they are guilty.

Oh, yes, I forgot, the evidence is all fake, part of a vast conspiracy to frame the two Burmese men.

And your proof against these two men is based on...

I said evidence, not proof; proof is derived from evidence, the evidence is what the police collected and will be presented during the trial to be examined by the judge and countered, if possible, by the defense.

OK then, whichever you like. Where is the evidence?

Thanks StealthEnergizer for posting those news articles from early days in the investigation. People need to be reminded, in order to make a measured assessment of how the investigation has devolved. It was right after the taxi driver made his revelation (of payment-for-false-testimony), that the first head cop was replaced by the 2nd. Many concerned people thought the replacement head cop would be better,after seeing the blunderings of the initial head cop, but lo and hehold..... the replacement head cop was 10 times worse.

Right after the 2nd guy took the driver's seat, the B3 were arrested, and those who should have remained primes suspects, were dropped like a lead zeppelin. Then the amazingly quick DNA test results from B2 (one of the B dropped to become a side show), and the reenactment, which was as realistic as Mighty Mouse dropping Fat Boy on Hiroshima. Then Thai officialdom stepped back and hoped the frame-up would stick. It very obviously didn't, as there was uproar from every non-official quarter. However, the toothpaste was out of the tube, and Thai officialdom has had no choice but continue to goose-step down the muddy road they've created.

"and those who should have remained primes suspects, were dropped like a lead zeppelin"

How inconsiderate of them, to go after the people that the evidence pointed at instead of those you want to see punished because you just know they are guilty.

Oh, yes, I forgot, the evidence is all fake, part of a vast conspiracy to frame the two Burmese men.

And your proof against these two men is based on...

LM112 is the highest and most important law of the land. This is the land of the father. He provided love, peace and hope for all his children living under his protection. Anyone who do not love the father do not deserve to live here and should be jailed until they do.

There is no law in Thailand. The military coup illegally took control of the country and abolished the constitution. There are no legally elected officials in Thailand.

Took control from a legally elected government, sort of, who were acting illegally, lying and refusing to obey the law; whilst allowing attacks on and murder of any who opposed them. A government openly owned, controlled and dictated to by a convicted criminal fugitive with 15 more serious court cases waiting. A government that openly lied and thought nothing of trying to give amnesty to 25k+ just so they could whitewash their criminal leader's crimes and those of his family and friends.

There was certainly no laws under the Shins - only if and when it suited their agenda. And their "respect" for the constitution was legendary.

"Who were acting illegally and lying..." that could be said about most western goverments even the US. Pray tell, would you support a military coup against the current US administration or do you like to sound like a broken record?

If this happens in the next five years, it will be the dawn of a new era in Thailand. That insiders and backhanders and crooked politicians will be held financially responsible for the losses they cost/caused is a pipe dream. I think the good PM is starting to believe his on rhetoric. I continue hope for the best and expect the worse and am rarely disappointed.

Good grief, even blind people have better perception of how Thai politics works than the junta goon squad. One of the reasons I've avoided you is that you are not exactly color blind and leans too much towards the yellow. But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed.

Please highlight the parts of my post that lead you to believe: you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed.

The first sentence of my post began with the word, "If".

The second sentence of my post ended in, "is a pipe dream".

The third sentence of my post was: "I think the PM is starting to believe his own rhetoric".

The fourth sentence contained the phrase, "expect the worse and am rarely disappointed".

I fail to see how you can translate my post into a vote of confidence for the Junta.

That you were not pleased with the acting PM's current statement doesn't disproof that you don't support the current administration. You have shown your true colors before, stating that the acting PM is less corrupt than the previous administrations and your crazy anti-red hatred.

Now I don't judge someone that doesn't like the reds because that's your opinion but for someone to disagree with you and be called "red suck ups" or "red sympathizers" lile you have done in previous threads, begs the question whether you are a serious debatter or belong to the brainwashed bunch, because then it starts to look as if you act accordingly to the current "facilitator's" M.O.

So, you were responding to me and not my post. It's really hard to defend one'self against hard feelings. It's gotten so a fellow can't partially agree with the other side without being suspect. Oh, well, not my problem.

Hard feelings...? Don't know you well enough, don't care enough to wanna know. Just show my dislike for hypocrits and bigots.

You had only the rice scheme and a few clumsy statements from the former PM and that's a better reason? Poor debating skills on your part.

This isn't a debate. I'm asking you a simple question: to provide evidence to back up your statement.

You don't seem to be able to. All you can do is deflect.

Sure as soon as you put up yours that the previous government was the worst administration to date.

If this happens in the next five years, it will be the dawn of a new era in Thailand. That insiders and backhanders and crooked politicians will be held financially responsible for the losses they cost/caused is a pipe dream. I think the good PM is starting to believe his on rhetoric. I continue hope for the best and expect the worse and am rarely disappointed.

Good grief, even blind people have better perception of how Thai politics works than the junta goon squad. One of the reasons I've avoided you is that you are not exactly color blind and leans too much towards the yellow. But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed. Especially since he has no degree in political or analytical science nor any other form of necessary education needed to run a company less a country.

But now I'm really curious about what makes you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed.

Please highlight the parts of my post that lead you to believe: you think that the former general can succeed where others have failed.

The first sentence of my post began with the word, "If".

The second sentence of my post ended in, "is a pipe dream".

The third sentence of my post was: "I think the PM is starting to believe his own rhetoric".

The fourth sentence contained the phrase, "expect the worse and am rarely disappointed".

I fail to see how you can translate my post into a vote of confidence for the Junta.

That you were not pleased with the acting PM's current statement doesn't disproof that you don't support the current administration. You have shown your true colors before, stating that the acting PM is less corrupt than the previous administrations and your crazy anti-red hatred.

Now I don't judge someone that doesn't like the reds because that's your opinion but for someone to disagree with you and be called "red suck ups" or "red sympathizers" lile you have done in previous threads, begs the question whether you are a serious debatter or belong to the brainwashed bunch, because then it starts to look as if you act accordingly to the current "facilitator's" M.O.